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What is Forza Motorsport 4?
Forza 4 is the preeminent racing simulation for the Xbox 360. Buy cars, trade cars, modify cars, tune cars, paint cars, and eventually get around to racing cars. No matter if you�re a complete novice, Forza 4 can cater to your skill level with a variety of driving assists. Or if you�re a Forza veteran, turn everything off and enjoy the improved physics system that offers handling realism like no other console racer.

Release date
October 11, 2011, in North America
October 14, 2011, in Europe
October 20, 2011, throughout the rest of world
Demo is available NOW on Xbox Live

Pre-order bonus cars
Available at Amazon.com- Subaru Impreza WRX ST
Available at Best Buy- BMW 1 Series M Coupe
Available at GameStop- Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde
Available at Wal-Mart- MINI John Cooper Works Clubman
Available at Target � Honda CR-Z EX

Limited Collector�s Edition

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Players who buy the Limited Collector's Edition will have a polished Steelbook case, with the 2012 BMW M5 as the cover car. As well as a regular copy of the game, they will receive a V.I.P. car pack, including the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport and Noble M600; a 10-car 'American Muscle Car Pack', also available on Xbox Live on launch day; a pre-order exclusive 'Ship Bonus Car Pack', including the Koenigsegg Agera and Tesla Roadster Sport; a 5-car 'BMW Designer Car Pack' featuring 5 BMWs with unique exterior designs, including a BMW M6 designed by an entrant in the M6 designing competition. This pack will also be available on launch day, along with a free download of the 2012 BMW M5 and a BMW theme for the Xbox dashboard. As well as all this, Collector's Edition owners will be given a 96-page volume entitled 'Cars of Forza Motorsport 4 Presented By Top Gear', written by the editors from Top Gear magazine.

So what�s new and improved in Forza Motorsport 4 compared to the last game?

The Under the Hood articles have lots of information about the major changes to Forza 4.
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood1/
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood2/
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood3/
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood4/

What about the bad stuff?

New Tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zsuz5F_9NU

Autovista
Autovista is brand-spanking new for Forza 4. 26 cars have been modeled in high detail, inside and out, for you to walk around and explore using Kinect or a controller. Open doors, pop the hood, rev the engine. Each car has a half dozen or so �information points� with spoken audio commentary as well as an extended commentary by Jeremy Clarkson .

^{Click for huge}

World Tour
Forza 3�s calendar system for progressing through the single player career mode has been replaced by World Tour. Instead of a linear progression, World Tour is consists of ten seasons geared to your car preferences. Three events are presented at a time, matched to your current car. Switch to another car and the events will adapt to your new choice. As well as conventional races, World Tour will offer alternative events such as Top Gear Bowling (knock down pins with your car), multiclass racing (cars from different classes share the track) and �Chase� events (1 on 1 race with traffic as obstacles).

Rivals Mode

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Rivals mode is basically a combination of career events, time trials, and multiplayer. It allows you to play against your friends in a diverse group of challenging events, even when your friends are offline. Your friend is represented on track by a ghost, but not one of our classic transparent �jellyfish� ghosts. It�s a fully liveried car--more similar to how Forza 3 multiplayer races work when you have them set to �collisions off.�

For every Rivals mode event you are automatically assigned a rival (usually an Xbox LIVE friend), or you can manually set any player on the leaderboard as your rival. By beating your rival, you get bonus credits based on that rival�s leaderboard percentile rank and the size of the board. If the rival is in the top percentile on a well-populated board, their bounty is very large. The sizes of these bounties are server-driven. So, we can increase or reduce the bounties as the community shows its preferences.

Furthermore, if you challenge and defeat a rival who also happens to be a friend or fellow club member, that person will receive a message in their message center inviting them to try and beat your time.

You can advance through the career and level up using nothing but Rivals mode, if you choose. Win or lose, playing in Rivals mode gives you the same basic XP and credit payout schedule as career and multiplayer races.

Forza 3 Profile Import
If you owned and played Forza 3, you can import your profile and get a head start in Forza 4. Based on your Forza 3 driver level, you start your Forza 4 garage with these cars.

If you have any of the following cars are in your Forza 3 profile�s garage, you start your Forza 4 garage with Forza 4 version of the same car.

The 'Secret' import is the ~~2006 HKS Time Attack Evolution CT230R~~ DeLorean DMC-12. As well as cars you can also import your saved vinyl groups from Forza 3. Entire liveries can�t be imported.

DLC
Turn 10 plan to release monthly 10-car add on packs.

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Car Tokens: Credits will be readily available in Forza 4, but for players who don�t want to wait and save up for the elite Forza 4 cars, we�re introducing car tokens. While you can always buy cars with the credits you earn in the game, car tokens in Forza Motorsport 4 are a brand-new way to access the cars that matter most to you. Players will be able to purchase car tokens via the Xbox LIVE Marketplace, either individually (80 MS Points, $1), in six-token packs (400 MS Points, $5) or in 13-token packs (800 MS Points, $10). The in-game credit value of a car will determine its token price�the more expensive a car is in the game, the more car tokens it will cost. The most expensive cars in Forza 4 will cost three tokens; the majority of cars will cost either one or two car tokens.

Season Pass: Today we announced our Forza Motorsport 4 Season Pass, a DLC subscription package for Forza 4 players. Purchasing the Season Pass will give you access to the first six months� worth of Forza 4 add-on packs�plus one free add-on pack (the American Muscle Car Pack, which we also unveiled today). The Season Pass will cost 2,400 MS Points ($29.99) and represents a 30 percent overall discount as compared to purchasing the DLC packs separately. Individual 10-car packs will cost 560 MS Points ($7) in Forza Motorsport 4. We are also introducing the ability to buy some DLC cars on a per item basis, a feature which will offer players more flexibility and choice to get the cars they want. One side note of interest for Forza 4 DLC cars: Unlike in Forza 3, DLC cars will be seamlessly integrated into World Tour mode�both as AI cars in races as well as in-game gifts you can be rewarded when reaching a new level.

Reviews
IGN AUS review is up! 9.5/10
Gamespot 8.5/10
Eurogamer 9/10
Destructoid 10/10 :siren:

Joystiq 4.5/5
Ars Technica
Thanks Pvax!

Find Goons to race with!
Have a look at this spreadsheet and add your info to find suitable Forzapals^TM.

Serious about driving faster?
Real world race driving techniques are very applicable to Forza 4. If you want to improve your lap times and shame your friends, try and absorb some of this:
http://www.drivingfast.net/
Thanks Wolfy!
Alternately, Going Faster is very good too. I own a copy and recommend it.

What about racing wheel controllers?

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Wheel options that will work with PC, PS3 and Xbox 360:
Fanatec Porsche Wheel Turbo S - no longer available in Fanatec's store, but there are some unused ones still floating around at various retailers outside of the US, if you really want the full leather rim and original grey wheel base. $249.95 for the wheel only. Pedals and shifters are extra, and there is a range of choices on those as well.
Fanatec Porsche GT2 - Essentially the same as the PWTS, still available on Fanatec's store, features an Alcantara rim and the same internals as the PWTS, and a black base with a cool "GT2" logo. $249.95 for the wheel only.
Fanatec CSR Wheel - Very similar to the PWTS and GT2, but with a few updated internal parts. Honestly the main difference from what I've seen is that the mass of the wheel rim on this product is lighter, which makes turning and changing lock direction a little snappier but overall is very similar to the GT2. Same base unit, now in black with red vents. $249.95 for the wheel only.

If you are primarily a road car driver, you will probably be happy with the GT2 as the look and feel of it is more reminiscent of your standard sports/exotic. If you prefer a more stripped-down, Racecar feel, you might want to go with the CSR wheel as the lighter rim gives a slightly snappier, easier turn feeling, and the styling is aimed more at the racecar enthusiast with Alcantara touches on a faux carbon fiber rim.

All of these wheels are nicer than the Logitech G25/G27, and have the added advantage of working on the 360. The Logitech products will never ever ever work on the Xbox 360 without Microsoft or Logitech retrofitting a piece of hardware to the existing wheels, which is never going to happen so you should just sell it, buy a Fanatec, and get over it - if you're still holding out hope that someday your G25 will work. It won't.

Coming soon (Later than November/Launch of Forza 4)
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel - This one will be twice the wheel that those previous 3 Fanatecs are - all metal internals, two FFB motors (over the 1 in the Porsche line), a detachable/swappable wheel rim so you can customize to the type of cars you like to drive, and a variety of onboard mounting points for items such as shifters, handbrakes, cupholders, and the like - including an optional mount so you can use an iPhone/Droid for telemetry through such PC games as iRacing.) This one will be $499.95, for the wheel only.

All Fanatec wheels have upgradeable firmware (if you own a PC), an on-board tuning menu, and variable degree settings from 210 degrees up to 900 degrees of rotation. All Fanatecs also come stock with paddle shifters, so you do not need to order a shifter kit to use it - however, you will need pedals. Fanatecs also work with G25/G27 pedals and also the Microsoft Wireless Wheel pedals, make sure to request an adapter when you order as I don't think they are sent stock any more.

You can compare Fanatec options here:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

Buy Fanatec products here:
http://www.fanatec.de/

Read about Fanatec developments here:
http://www.911wheel.de/

Do not buy the plastic Porsche shifter, the new metal internal "CSR Shifter" is a massive improvement over those original ones and is only $20 more if you are ordering new.

Clubsport Pedals really are the extra option that takes the Fanatec wheels to the level of Holy poo poo This Is Amazing (as is detailed nicely below by Ringo Star Get), so if you can afford them in the slightest do go ahead and save for them as they are more than $150 better than the standard, $50 plastic pedals. All Fanatec pedals come with a clutch. Once you have your Clubsport pedals, make sure to also buy a tube of dry bike chain lubricant and replace the grease that is on the braking cylinder (or risk having the occasional brake-stuck-on horrors.)

Fanatec has exceptional customer service, but they are a tiny niche company producing products that are so good most people think they're a big corporation - so it may take them a few days to even reply to your email but rest assured they guarantee their products long beyond any reasonable amount of time after purchase and will take care of most issues without the slightest hiccup once you do get into the system.

If you're not quite that hardcore, the Microsoft Wireless Wheel is a very good beginner/entrylevel wheel. You do get what you pay for in this segment, but with some effort you can usually find what was an originally $150 peripheral for $75ish on Ebay. There were build quality issues with this line of wheels, but if you can find one that's in good shape you will not be displeased with the results you get in Forza games. The MS Wireless Wheel was actually used for the development of Forza 2, so the effects and FFB is pretty spot-on in the Forza series. Things to be aware to watch for include broken FFB (the hub that the wheel sits on is geared with plastic, and can become worn down/broken relatively easily if it's been abused), slightly misaligned wheels that never sit quite centered, and microphone jacks that have some buzz in them or don't work at all. Given that this is now a used product only, you're going to have to take a few leaps of faith - but if you do track down a functional one, most users will be quite pleased with what it adds to the game. Obviously this controller will only work with a 360 or a PC (and no FFB on the PC.) If you end up with a MS WW, make sure to stuff a piece of foam rubber behind the pivot on the brake pedal and you will have a million times more braking feel than they are stock.

I haven't used it myself, but I've been seeing that the new Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheel is getting decent reviews as a more casual wheel-like option - it's essentially a controller that uses an accelerometer (like in an iPhone) to tell what orientation you're holding it. Most people went into their reviews extremely skeptical and most came out pleasantly surprised. Missing some buttons that reside on standard controllers, so if you're a manual with clutch shifter, you might be disappointed with the lack of available buttons. Expect to pay about $80 for this. Do not confuse it with a Wii "wheel" as it's not kinect based, it's actually the controller that dictates the wheel position.

Other options include a not-yet-available MadCatz offering (360 only) which does not have Force Feedback, and a Thrustmaster 360-only wheel that also does not have FFB. These wheels only rotate 270 degrees (about a turn and a half to 1.75 from center to lock.) Honestly, I think FFB is specifically what makes these games enjoyable with a wheel so I don't really have much to recommend about these two, but your mileage may vary.

http://www.madcatz.com/productinfo.asp?page=248&GSProd=4961&GSCat=98&CategoryImg=Xbox_3..
http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=239&PlatformID=8

If you end up with a Fanatec, the Fanatec Rennsport Wheelstand is the best option to mount it on as it is stylish enough for wives to tolerate in the living room, folds up for compact storage, and is rock-solid. Other choices are a full cockpit-setup Playseat, the WheelStand Pro, a $15 TV Tray from Target, or even just mounting it to a small piece of shelving and sitting it on your lap.

Thanks very much to Ether Frenzy.
Ringo Star Get's thoughts on the Fanatec Clubsport Pedals:

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Nothing receives more abuse, dirt, hair, and stanky-rear end feet than pedals. Your cheap-o plastic ones that came with your Walmart wheel were probably fabricated from the melted plastics of Barbie dolls, ready to break at the slightest thought of hitting your brakes when a Shitlord Pubbie decides to be 2Fast2Furious into a turn. It is only natural that the logical component that pedals for racing should be made out of something from the earth that has slain men and animal, and that is solid aluminium and steel.

The Clubsport Pedals, offered by Fanatec, are pretty much the highest in terms of class and quality in console racing. Expect to see $200 disappear out of your bank account when you purchase a set, but it will be the best $200 you spent since that one time in Chicago when a Natalie Portman look-alike street tramp would spout Star Wars quotes to you as she gave you a handy behind the Hang Uppe on the North Side. The proud distinction of these pedals is their solid construction and the inclusion of the God Pedal, the clutch.

That clutch will make you faster. It will make you cooler. You will also lose weight as you struggle and sweat to learn the heel-toe skill that you could never get from Walmart wheels. The next most important piece on these pedals is that brake. Not only does it slow you down, but it has a pressure-sensitive load cell that, when combined with the PU foam in the shaft, gives you a realistic and dead-on brake feel. The harder you press with your foot, like a real brake, the more your car will slow down. No more lovely potenimeters or whatever the gently caress those things are.

"But Sigma, I don't want to spend 200 buckeroos to just race on consoles!" Well guess what Miss Daisy, these fuckers are also USB plug-and-play to your PC. Now you can use these piece of German machinery to play your PC games and be all cool and spergy.

There are downsides. What, you thought God himself blew a God Load from his God Penis and it formed the Clubsports? Well, close, but there are flaws. First off, yes, its expensive, we covered that. The other downside is that it attracts dirt and grime and human hair (I have no idea where it comes from oh god officer I didn't know that she was in my basement don't cuff me my wrists are dainty), so keep a bottle of spray-air and a cloth nearby to keep it pristine. Since a lot of it is aluminum and steel, you'll need to keep it lubed to make sure everything moves smoothly and quietly. This may entail disassembly which can be a huge pain in the rear end if you have manly hands. My deft writer's hands, crafted from years of rubbing virgin cow milk on them and drawing those lovely styled "S"s in my notebook during fifth period German still had trouble getting into some tight spots. Be ready to be frustrated but also be ready to be glad you can adjust stuff like rods, springs, rod position, etc. Shitloads. Third, to have the pedals work you'll at least need one of the compatible steering wheels from Fanatec, which is more money to spend. The last downside is that the combined action of using the clutch and gas will cause your pedals to scoot about, so be sure to have either some awesome floors that the feet can attach to or mount them to something awesome, like an OBUTTO.

Overall, I have no buyer's remorse from buying the pedals. Combined with my GT2 wheel, I am on my way to being a blubbering sperglord when my BMW M3 is getting toasted by Shitlord Pubbies in Audi S8's, but at least I was doing it in loving style.

Official site
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Default.aspx

See you on the racetrack!

Sunday Punch fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Oct 9, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:22

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Sunday Punch: Mar 4, 2009; There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.

Car Clubs :siren:

AUGR
The goon clubs are dead, long live the goon clubs! AUGR is the most active club right now, try here first.
GTCC
If you're a regular GTCC Wednesday night dilz-sucker, this is the club for you. Invite only.
SAEG
Something Awful Eurogr�ppen, for Forza fans in the Old World.

Old clubs
LLJK
The original goon club.
GISH
The second coming of LLJK. If LLJK is full, this is where you want to go.
AFGS
Australian Forza Goons, if you're in Oceania this is probably where you want to be. Somewhere around a GMT+10 timezone.

Sunday Punch fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Feb 2, 2012

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:23

Ether Frenzy: Dec 22, 2006; Nap Ghost

Good lookin' OP, Sunday Punch.

Wheel options that will work with PC, PS3 and Xbox 360:
Fanatec Porsche Wheel Turbo S - no longer available in Fanatec's store, but there are some unused ones still floating around at various retailers outside of the US, if you really want the full leather rim and original grey wheel base. $249.95 for the wheel only. Pedals and shifters are extra, and there is a range of choices on those as well.
Fanatec Porsche GT2 - Essentially the same as the PWTS, still available on Fanatec's store, features an Alcantara rim and the same internals as the PWTS, and a black base with a cool "GT2" logo. $249.95 for the wheel only.
Fanatec CSR Wheel - Very similar to the PWTS and GT2, but with a few updated internal parts. Honestly the main difference from what I've seen is that the mass of the wheel rim on this product is lighter, which makes turning and changing lock direction a little snappier but overall is very similar to the GT2. Same base unit, now in black with red vents. $249.95 for the wheel only.

If you are primarily a road car driver, you will probably be happy with the GT2 as the look and feel of it is more reminiscent of your standard sports/exotic. If you prefer a more stripped-down, Racecar feel, you might want to go with the CSR wheel as the lighter rim gives a slightly snappier, easier turn feeling, and the styling is aimed more at the racecar enthusiast with Alcantara touches on a faux carbon fiber rim.

All of these wheels are nicer than the Logitech G25/G27, and have the added advantage of working on the 360. The Logitech products will never ever ever work on the Xbox 360 without Microsoft or Logitech retrofitting a piece of hardware to the existing wheels, which is never going to happen so you should just sell it, buy a Fanatec, and get over it - if you're still holding out hope that someday your G25 will work. It won't.

Coming soon (Later than November/Launch of Forza 4)
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel - This one will be twice the wheel that those previous 3 Fanatecs are - all metal internals, two FFB motors (over the 1 in the Porsche line), a detachable/swappable wheel rim so you can customize to the type of cars you like to drive, and a variety of onboard mounting points for items such as shifters, handbrakes, cupholders, and the like - including an optional mount so you can use an iPhone/Droid for telemetry through such PC games as iRacing.) This one will be $499.95, for the wheel only.

All Fanatec wheels have upgradeable firmware (if you own a PC), an on-board tuning menu, and variable degree settings from 210 degrees up to 900 degrees of rotation. All Fanatecs also come stock with paddle shifters, so you do not need to order a shifter kit to use it - however, you will need pedals. Fanatecs also work with G25/G27 pedals and also the Microsoft Wireless Wheel pedals, make sure to request an adapter when you order as I don't think they are sent stock any more.

You can compare Fanatec options here:
http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

Buy Fanatec products here:
http://www.fanatec.de/

Read about Fanatec developments here:
http://www.911wheel.de/

Do not buy the plastic Porsche shifter, the new metal internal "CSR Shifter" is a massive improvement over those original ones and is only $20 more if you are ordering new.

Clubsport Pedals really are the extra option that takes the Fanatec wheels to the level of Holy poo poo This Is Amazing (as is detailed nicely below by Ringo Star Get), so if you can afford them in the slightest do go ahead and save for them as they are more than $150 better than the standard, $50 plastic pedals. All Fanatec pedals come with a clutch. Once you have your Clubsport pedals, make sure to also buy a tube of dry bike chain lubricant and replace the grease that is on the braking cylinder (or risk having the occasional brake-stuck-on horrors.)

Fanatec has exceptional customer service, but they are a tiny niche company producing products that are so good most people think they're a big corporation - so it may take them a few days to even reply to your email but rest assured they guarantee their products long beyond any reasonable amount of time after purchase and will take care of most issues without the slightest hiccup once you do get into the system.

If you're not quite that hardcore, the Microsoft Wireless Wheel is a very good beginner/entrylevel wheel. You do get what you pay for in this segment, but with some effort you can usually find what was an originally $150 peripheral for $75ish on Ebay. There were build quality issues with this line of wheels, but if you can find one that's in good shape you will not be displeased with the results you get in Forza games. The MS Wireless Wheel was actually used for the development of Forza 2, so the effects and FFB is pretty spot-on in the Forza series. Things to be aware to watch for include broken FFB (the hub that the wheel sits on is geared with plastic, and can become worn down/broken relatively easily if it's been abused), slightly misaligned wheels that never sit quite centered, and microphone jacks that have some buzz in them or don't work at all. Given that this is now a used product only, you're going to have to take a few leaps of faith - but if you do track down a functional one, most users will be quite pleased with what it adds to the game. Obviously this controller will only work with a 360 or a PC (and no FFB on the PC.) If you end up with a MS WW, make sure to stuff a piece of foam rubber behind the pivot on the brake pedal and you will have a million times more braking feel than they are stock.

I haven't used it myself, but I've been seeing that the new Microsoft Wireless Speed Wheel is getting decent reviews as a more casual wheel-like option - it's essentially a controller that uses an accelerometer (like in an iPhone) to tell what orientation you're holding it. Most people went into their reviews extremely skeptical and most came out pleasantly surprised. Missing some buttons that reside on standard controllers, so if you're a manual with clutch shifter, you might be disappointed with the lack of available buttons. Expect to pay about $80 for this. Do not confuse it with a Wii "wheel" as it's not kinect based, it's actually the controller that dictates the wheel position.

Other options include a not-yet-available MadCatz offering (360 only) which does not have Force Feedback, and a Thrustmaster 360-only wheel that also does not have FFB. These wheels only rotate 270 degrees (about a turn and a half to 1.75 from center to lock.) Honestly, I think FFB is specifically what makes these games enjoyable with a wheel so I don't really have much to recommend about these two, but your mileage may vary.

http://www.madcatz.com/productinfo.asp?page=248&GSProd=4961&GSCat=98&CategoryImg=Xbox_3..
http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=239&PlatformID=8

If you end up with a Fanatec, the Fanatec Rennsport Wheelstand is the best option to mount it on as it is stylish enough for wives to tolerate in the living room, folds up for compact storage, and is rock-solid. Other choices are a full cockpit-setup Playseat, the WheelStand Pro, a $15 TV Tray from Target, or even just mounting it to a small piece of shelving and sitting it on your lap.

Ether Frenzy fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Oct 6, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:29

DEEP STATE PLOT: Aug 13, 2008; Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!

The secret transfer car is the HKS Time Attack Evo, so you should add that to the OP.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:30

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003

the HKS evo is a (maybe transfer) unicorn. The secret transfer car is the DMC delorean.

From BADNED's list on Forza Central (most accurate):

"2006 HKS Time Attack Evolution CT230R [Unicorn / Buy in Auction House]"

People with an early copy said the secret is the DeLorean on neogaf.

Minimaul fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Oct 6, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:36

Sunday Punch: Mar 4, 2009; There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.

e: ^^^ Now I don't know what to believe

Ether Frenzy posted:

Good lookin' OP, Sunday Punch. I'll write some additional stuff about the Fanatec/MS Wireless Wheel if you need.

Excellent!

Cannot Find Server posted:

The secret transfer car is the HKS Time Attack Evo, so you should add that to the OP.

Done.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:37

mattfl: Aug 27, 2004

What do you guys use for stands for your wheels? I don't have any type of coffee table nearby, so I'd need some sort of portable stand.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:38

Ringo Star Get: Sep 18, 2006; JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

mattfl posted:

What do you guys use for stands for your wheels? I don't have any type of coffee table nearby, so I'd need some sort of portable stand.

Look into Fanatec's Rennsport Wheelstand. Adjustable and collapsible and durable!

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:40

Bape Culture: Sep 13, 2006

Minimaul posted:

the HKS evo is a (maybe transfer) unicorn. The secret transfer car is the DMC delorean.

From BADNED's list on Forza Central (most accurate):

"2006 HKS Time Attack Evolution CT230R [Unicorn / Buy in Auction House]"

People with an early copy said the secret is the DeLorean on neogaf.

The delorean was in 3? Huh?

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:41

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003

A5H posted:

The delorean was in 3? Huh?

I think it showed up as DLC - part of the Forzaloponic pack(s).

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:42

pvax: Aug 6, 2001

Great looking first post. Maybe put asisde some space for car club stuff once we figure out how it works.

Also - Forza4Goons was also created as a metatag if anyone wants to be added to it even though it's probably less necessary this time around.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:43

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

mattfl posted:

What do you guys use for stands for your wheels? I don't have any type of coffee table nearby, so I'd need some sort of portable stand.

I use this:

http://www.target.com/p/Wood-TV-Tray-Natural/-/A-11053804

$13, fits the MS wheel perfectly. They have a darker one too if you prefer.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:53

DEEP STATE PLOT: Aug 13, 2008; Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!

Minimaul posted:

the HKS evo is a (maybe transfer) unicorn. The secret transfer car is the DMC delorean.

From BADNED's list on Forza Central (most accurate):

"2006 HKS Time Attack Evolution CT230R [Unicorn / Buy in Auction House]"

People with an early copy said the secret is the DeLorean on neogaf.

I read the Evo on the Forza forums, so now I'm just all kinds of confused.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:56

mattfl: Aug 27, 2004

xzzy posted:

I use this:

http://www.target.com/p/Wood-TV-Tray-Natural/-/A-11053804

$13, fits the MS wheel perfectly. They have a darker one too if you prefer.

Hrm, I have a few of these that I use for, well eating in front of the tv.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 20:58

Ringo Star Get: Sep 18, 2006; JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

Sunday, heard you wanted stuff on wheels and pedals. Here's mine on the Fanatec Clubsport Pedals:

Nothing receives more abuse, dirt, hair, and stanky-rear end feet than pedals. Your cheap-o plastic ones that came with your Walmart wheel were probably fabricated from the melted plastics of Barbie dolls, ready to break at the slightest thought of hitting your brakes when a Shitlord Pubbie decides to be 2Fast2Furious into a turn. It is only natural that the logical component that pedals for racing should be made out of something from the earth that has slain men and animal, and that is solid aluminium and steel.

The Clubsport Pedals, offered by Fanatec, are pretty much the highest in terms of class and quality in console racing. Expect to see $200 disappear out of your bank account when you purchase a set, but it will be the best $200 you spent since that one time in Chicago when a Natalie Portman look-alike street tramp would spout Star Wars quotes to you as she gave you a handy behind the Hang Uppe on the North Side. The proud distinction of these pedals is their solid construction and the inclusion of the God Pedal, the clutch.

That clutch will make you faster. It will make you cooler. You will also lose weight as you struggle and sweat to learn the heel-toe skill that you could never get from Walmart wheels. The next most important piece on these pedals is that brake. Not only does it slow you down, but it has a pressure-sensitive load cell that, when combined with the PU foam in the shaft, gives you a realistic and dead-on brake feel. The harder you press with your foot, like a real brake, the more your car will slow down. No more lovely potenimeters or whatever the gently caress those things are.

"But Sigma, I don't want to spend 200 buckeroos to just race on consoles!" Well guess what Miss Daisy, these fuckers are also USB plug-and-play to your PC. Now you can use these piece of German machinery to play your PC games and be all cool and spergy.

There are downsides. What, you thought God himself blew a God Load from his God Penis and it formed the Clubsports? Well, close, but there are flaws. First off, yes, its expensive, we covered that. The other downside is that it attracts dirt and grime and human hair (I have no idea where it comes from oh god officer I didn't know that she was in my basement don't cuff me my wrists are dainty), so keep a bottle of spray-air and a cloth nearby to keep it pristine. Since a lot of it is aluminum and steel, you'll need to keep it lubed to make sure everything moves smoothly and quietly. This may entail disassembly which can be a huge pain in the rear end if you have manly hands. My deft writer's hands, crafted from years of rubbing virgin cow milk on them and drawing those lovely styled "S"s in my notebook during fifth period German still had trouble getting into some tight spots. Be ready to be frustrated but also be ready to be glad you can adjust stuff like rods, springs, rod position, etc. Shitloads. Third, to have the pedals work you'll at least need one of the compatible steering wheels from Fanatec, which is more money to spend. The last downside is that the combined action of using the clutch and gas will cause your pedals to scoot about, so be sure to have either some awesome floors that the feet can attach to or mount them to something awesome, like an OBUTTO.

Overall, I have no buyer's remorse from buying the pedals. Combined with my GT2 wheel, I am on my way to being a blubbering sperglord when my BMW M3 is getting toasted by Shitlord Pubbies in Audi S8's, but at least I was doing it in loving style.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:08

dreesemonkey: May 14, 2008; Pillbug

I need to load up FM3, since I bought VIP I wonder if there are 300 gifted cars that I never downloaded, maybe some of them would carry over? It's been so long since I loaded it up.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:09

Wolfy: Jul 13, 2009

I'm so excited for this drat game and the Fanatec setup that I'll be getting a week or so after release. I'm a big F430 fan, will the cars that are imports from Forza 3 be available normally in 4?

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:16

Day Man: Jul 30, 2007; Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!

The op is great. Stuff about wheels and wheel stands would be a great addition.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:18

Jarf: Jun 25, 2006; PLATINUM

Be warned, adding goons to your friends list will make you feel as though you are crap at this game despite ranking amongst the top 1% of the world. Some of you guys are simply not human. L Harrison I'm looking at you.

Jarf fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 6, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:26

redhalo: May 19, 2009

And if you're less than the top 1% you feel even shitier. All the same, you guys ghosts are great to practice to.

edit: That "Endangered Species" commercial should be in the OP. :colbert:

redhalo fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Oct 6, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:38

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Ringo Star Get posted:

Sunday, heard you wanted stuff on wheels and pedals. Here's mine on the Fanatec Clubsport Pedals:

Also love my Clubsport pedals, but people should know that the CSR Elite pedals are just about as good and $50 cheaper. The difference is the base is all plastic, and you can't move the pedals on their levers (only the middle holes are chamfered), although you can move the whole brake assembly left or right a cm or two. You still get the Load Cell brake set up.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:46

two_beer_bishes: Jun 27, 2004

I just checked my Amazon order for the LCE and its now eligible for release date shipping! I had to manually change it from 2-day, so check yours too if you ordered from them. :woop:

# ? Oct 6, 2011 21:58

Ringo Star Get: Sep 18, 2006; JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

Dr JonboyG posted:

Also love my Clubsport pedals, but people should know that the CSR Elite pedals are just about as good and $50 cheaper. The difference is the base is all plastic, and you can't move the pedals on their levers (only the middle holes are chamfered), although you can move the whole brake assembly left or right a cm or two. You still get the Load Cell brake set up.

I believe the sensors for the gas and clutch are different as well, but the new setup for those is that you can reverse-mount switch them, pretty sweet!

# ? Oct 6, 2011 22:02

Z3n: Jul 21, 2007; I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Id love to have some guys to compete with on my friends list...GT: Z3n85

# ? Oct 6, 2011 22:18

sim: Sep 24, 2003

two_beer_bishes posted:

I just checked my Amazon order for the LCE and its now eligible for release date shipping! I had to manually change it from 2-day, so check yours too if you ordered from them.

Thank you for this! I just switched my estimated delivery date from October 18-22 to October 11!

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:18

IOwnCalculus: Apr 2, 2003

two_beer_bishes posted:

I just checked my Amazon order for the LCE and its now eligible for release date shipping! I had to manually change it from 2-day, so check yours too if you ordered from them.

I also thank you for this! Just did the same thing.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:38

AlmightyPants: Mar 14, 2001; King of Scheduling; Pillbug

Is there anyone out there who's looking to sell their Microsoft wheel? I'm having awful luck finding a used one.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:41

pvax: Aug 6, 2001

Camino Viejo At Sunset in a BMW m635csi
Sedona in a Mercedes 190e with MUCH LESS annoying Sun
Wow - I'm amazed at how nice and smooth it looks.

pvax fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Oct 6, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:44

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Now I just wish Fanatec would ship my CSR.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:48

burtonos: Aug 17, 2004; ...and the angel did say, "go forth, and lay waste to all who oppose you"

Y'all know me, ya know what I do for a livin.* I am planning on a week of driving stock cars to make some cash online, then I will worry about building cars. I plan to play the everliving gently caress out of this game, and none of it in career mode.

*if you don't know me my gt is bentron.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:51

GhostDog: Jul 30, 2003; Always see everything.

Is affinity raised playing online?

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:53

Deeters: Aug 21, 2007

I assume the preorder cars are given as a code like every other preorder bonus. If so, would anyone with a Subaru like to trade for a MINI from Walmart?

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:54

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003

Yes.

There's Manufacturer Affinity and Driver Level.

DL 1-150
MA 1-50.

Once you get to MA level 5 car upgrades are free except swaps and wheels.

Driver Level 1-50 you get the choice of your level upgrade gift car. levels 51+ you get credit bonus.

Minimaul fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Oct 7, 2011

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:55

GhostDog: Jul 30, 2003; Always see everything.

Wait, so level 5 already gives you free upgrades, is there any other incentive for the next 45 levels? Other than showing everybody how much you love BMW of course.

# ? Oct 6, 2011 23:59

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003

From what I've been able to read it looks like you get bonuses for pretty much everything. Doing career races, sometimes they'll give you Affinity Bonus or Credit bonuses. I'm not sure what else you'll get level 5+ but I'm sure there's something.

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:01

Pitch: Jun 16, 2005; しらんけど

What exactly is the Amazon preorder bonus? There's already an '08 and '11 WRX STi on the car lists I've seen around, which don't seem to include any of the other preorders like the CR-V or Clubman. Is the Amazon STi some unusual configuration?

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:01

Day Man: Jul 30, 2007; Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!

GhostDog posted:

Wait, so level 5 already gives you free upgrades, is there any other incentive for the next 45 levels? Other than showing everybody how much you love BMW of course.

I believe you get credits.

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:03

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003

It's the STI Sedan. The one already in the game is the hatchback.

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:03

robotsinmyhead: Nov 29, 2005; Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!; Clever Betty

That's a sweet deal. I drove enough Hondas in FM3 to qualify for that easily.

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:03

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 06:33

track day bro!: Feb 17, 2005; #essereFerrari; Grimey Drawer

This is one for someone who has the game, but you dont always start at the back of the grid do you? I dont mind fighting my way to the front but sometimes its a pain when you only have 2 laps or so.

# ? Oct 7, 2011 00:24

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