Benne posted:

This was from a few pages back but wanted to respond to this.


Yeah, I'm one of the mods at Field Gulls. The real problem isn't the so much as it is the unbridled stupidity that goes along with the . I was around that blog during the big "Charlie vs. Matt" wars in '10, and it was as loving stupid as you'd think it was.

Things have only gotten worse since the new writer took over. I tried to put a cap on all the shitposts, but that blog moves fast, and I only have so much free time, that at this point I'm just content to let them wallow in their own poo poo.

Fellow Seahawk fans, fire away. I'm ready for any criticism.

JCane;1064068983 posted:

The more and more I think about this the more and more I see this as a wise business move on the part of that big-eared freak, Stephen Ross.

I've crushed this dude for the past couple of years because of the impact his utter buffonery has had on this program.

But finally, I see the light and I believe I see his vision.

This dude knew what he was doing by going after Harbaugh publicly. It was a move that I was stunned with at first because I felt like he was disrespecting Tony Sparano in the absolute worst possible way and I felt like the players would see this and quit on Sparano this season. That reason alone was the foundation of my 5-11 prediction before the season began. Perhaps Ross pursued Harbaugh to help Harbaugh have leverage in a deal with whatever West Coast team might come along. It's no secret that Ross and Harbaugh have a personal relationship outside of football because both are Michigan Alum. So Ross "appears" to be hard after Harbaugh in the media when in reality, it's nothing more than camouflage.

Harbaugh "reportedly" turns down the Miami job and Ross returns to tell Sparano that he's the guy and gives him a one-year extension. This one-year extension to me now appears to be a tactic to cover Ross' *** when he does indeed fire him. It looks as if Ross gave Sparano every opportunity imaginable and even stuck with him thru this losing season and all of the failure is on Sparano.

Behind the scenes, Ross understands the importance of a true franchise QB in this league. So he now has his plan all set-up. Sparano remains the coach of the team after being disrespected, and in-turn, the players probably see this as a sign of weakness from their "leader" and as a result, they're not playing hard for Tony.

So now Ross sees another dilemma—the Denver Broncos. The Cleveland game was a possible win but we were on the road and the Browns are much improved. If you look back at staff predictions, I even said that many of us were over looking improved teams such as the Cleveland Browns. But the Denver game is different. Ross seen this as a "Suck for Luck" kind of game if you will. Denver is a team that would certainly take Luck if they were in position to and they're a team that will not win a lot of games this season.

So what do you do? You honor Tim Tebow and the 2008 Florida Gators. You alienate your community for the time being and you bring in all the booger-eating rednecks that you possibly can to see their false idol back in the great state of Florida once again. Now, I think Ross "lucked" out with Tebow being named the starter. To me, that's just a coincidence but I'm sure Ross lifted his arms in victory when that announcement was made. So NOW, you have these trailer park rejects loading up the campers and heading down the turnpike to see their false God START. You've alienated your community, Hurricane fans for the most part refuse to go to this game, you sold your soul to the Devil by honoring the 2008 national champion Gator team along with the opposing team's STARTING QB...and get this...Denver has had two weeks to prepare for this game AND they get the Dolphins on a short week as we played Monday night.

We have a lot stacked against us on Sunday and part of me thinks that Ross planned it all perfectly. Tim Tebow is not a great QB by any standard, but that dude is built for games such as this. As much as I hate Tim Tebow, that kid is a winner and knows how to rise up. He'll be out there to put on a show for the Bronco fans in attendance (30%-40% of the stadium is what I hear) as well as the legions of identical twin cousins rolling down from that dump they call Gainesville.

The more and more I look at this, the more and more I'm beginning to believe that this is a truly brilliant business move by the man in charge.

Is Ross secretly on board with this whole "Suck for Luck" campaign?

TylerVagyler posted:

The thing that makes me the most upset is that the FO is making excuses for Otah. They said that because of the lockout, Otah couldn't condition for the season. Fug that noise. Otah had all of last season and this off-season to build strength, condition, and be prepared for this year. The lockout is no excuse for being a lazy fat bum. He should have been training on his own, just like the rest of the team. There's no doubt in my mind that these injuries are due to him being fat and out of shape.

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Minutes later, while heading to my car, I walked past an Oregon assistant coach who shall remain nameless. I said “hello” and as we shook hands he said, “you really picked Arizona State to beat us?”

I smiled and said that I thought that the Sun Devils might pull off the upset. He shook his head. I then asked if it was so out of the question. He indicated that it was, a little surprising given that every coach on that staff has experienced being upset before.

As the conversation continued I soon realized that his disgust with me picking ASU had less to do with football as it did assumed loyalties. He flat out said, “you’re an Oregon beat writer and you picked against Oregon.”

I responded by saying that I’m supposed to be objective and that I didn’t think he and others understood what our jobs require.

He chuckled and said, “oh, I’d love to tell you about that.”

I invited him to but he declined and said, “maybe after I retire.”

I again encouraged him to explain what he had meant but he denied and continued to question how I could cover Oregon and pick against them against a conference opponent at Autzen.

I replied: “I don’t work for Oregon. Oregon doesn’t pay me to cover them.”

I asked him again to elaborate on his perspective. He declined. We parted ways.

The exchange was the perfect ending to a few days of being ripped on through email and twitter by Oregon fans beside themselves that I could have dared pick against the Ducks.

* I’ve been accused of trying to rile up fans and draw attention to myself.
* Told I should write for Food Day.
* Told I need to take a long look at myself.
* Told I know nothing about football.
* A few have took it upon themselves to demonstrate their first-grade math skills by pointing out that my prediction was off by a whole 17 points.

All of this done from the simple perspective of a fan would be fine. But the animosity and disdain has been striking. I realize that most fans of any team understand the bigger picture. Others, not so much.

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Your right, godux444, Fentress does have a right to pick whomever he wants. But picking against the Ducks, in Autzen, over a team they are favored to beat by 14 pts, a team that nearly lost at home to the Beavers, is not "objective". It's done simply to stir up controversy. Claiming his pick was based solely on his "objective" view of the ducks as a professional newspaper man is gratuitous at best and at worst, just plain dumb!

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spot on ducknsb....Aaron is doing his job....toeing the corporate line at O-live. There is nothing objective in his analysis, he gave his opinion. I really don't see how he can say he's trying to be objective or portray some type of journalistic integrity in his writing. Mr fentress gets it, O-live gets it, the sports beat at O-live gets it....Drum up controversies, insert yourself (the journalist) in the story, get both Duck and Beaver fans riled up with these stories, then laugh as the page hits come in and advertisers throw money at the website because of all the page hits. There is no such thing as objective journalism these days, it's all about sensationalism, being controversial, and becoming the story. This is the new American media, people need to understand it's all about money at the end of the day...there’s no such thing as getting to the bottom of the story, uncovering fact, displaying integrity, writing from a neutral POV.

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Dude, like it or not, you are in Oregon. Like it or not, you should be loyal to your state and the teams that play in it, objectivity is not what the newspaper is about when it comes to sports, never has been never will be and you know that - it is about being LOYAL or your state. I have lived in Boston, DC, Chicago and Houston. Never had I heard of a newpaper beat writer from any of those cities picking against their own local team WHEN the team was a top team like the Ducks are. So puhlease, spare me the excuse of objectivity, BE LOYAL TO YOUR STATE AND TEAMS. If you can't be loyal, then get out of the game of prognostication.

Go Beavs! I predict they will win every game left this year. Why? Because I am loyal and believe in my state and teams! So I have no doubt they will win the rest of their games.

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Not sure I've ever encountered a paper staffed with writers who write about themselves so often. Is having a massive ego part of writing for the boregonian.

Seriously, get over yourself. You picked a 16 point do to beat the number 9 team in the nation at home, arguably the toughest venue in college football. You think you were being objective?

Good thing you're a writer and not a gambler.

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Here is what I feel is the problem with the entire staff that covers the Ducks for this rag. Chip wont let into the practices and wont te;ll you the answers when you ask so yyou ntake every oprotunity to bash the program. You went into the game predicting an upset by a team that in my opinion had only beaten one team that was competitive in USC. The only other team with any credibility was Illinois and they lost that game ....at night..... on the road. Utah is not the same team as they have been in recent history and ASU played them without the starting QB.
Like the Bald Faced Cry Baby you dont want to report anything you want to get you name in the fight so that people are talking about you. Really you get all rear end hurt because TWO people with the team questiuoned your pick after the fact? Come on man!!!!!!!!! Report stuff not fluff

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Aaron, Don't get me wrong, I think that you are the best sportswriter at the "O". I think that what we, as alumni and fans of the Ducks, complain about is that we don't seem to have any news writers that are pro Oregon. Most major FBS teams have a few "homer" writers, but Oregon... not so much. Buker is a sycophant to the OS program and coaches. Goe has about one article in five that is informative, not inflammatory. Lindsay Schnell isn't really biased, she just isn't very experienced or knowledgeable and tends to take the same position as the others. Don't even get me started with the "C" word. It seems as though every time a negative for the University of Oregon program pops up, we have to read four or five recounts/opinions/speculations by four of five different writers at the "O". Rarely do any of these 16-25 articles have any new information, they're just recycled. If something positive happens, we get one "feel good story" and then move on.
I travel all over the country (actually the world) for work, and even my friends/family from the Midwest, Southeast, and Northeast are shocked by the negative journalism slant in our own backyard (ESPECIALLY in the Southeast)! In conclusion, it would be nice to read a couple of positive articles about the program (other than wins). We WANT the news, not rehashed speculation and opinion.

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Aaron Fentress,

Everything about putting this sob story into the world was a bad idea.

YOU posted a prediction against the team you cover day in and day out. You knew you'd see the players and coaches again in a day or two. And you had to know the competitive nature that fuels a Top 10 program would manifest in some resentment surrounding that ASU pick.

How is it you're so short on self-respect that you waste your time and mine with this rambling first-person complaint about guys in the program making you feel bad for the situation YOU created?

Come. On.

YOU put yourself in this position. Not Carson York. Not the Oregon coaches. If you can't handle the backlash, then don't pick the upset. And if you still can't handle the backlash, don't destroy your own credibility with this victim role garbage.

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Aaron, picking Auburn or LSU is a little different than picking an ASU upset against the defending Pac-10 Champs, whose O-line is dominating and hitting their stride, and whose Defense is playing inspired ball in second halves of competitive games. The spread was Oregon by 14. So, yeah, your pick sucked, it was a long shot against the odds.

And honestly, I don't think it was because you are trying to be 'objective and independent', I think it was to create attention for yourself and help your beat writing get publicity from the fans. I mean look at all this attention you're getting. So, good job, it worked this time. But you sold yourself out, because like Canzano and Ken Goe, you now have branded yourself as part of the Oregonian media that is negative towards the Ducks for a plethora of reasons, of which that un-named coach didn't tell you about.

Good job, as a loyal and objective fan of Oregon Athletics, you're another writer that I'll boycott from now on. I don't listen to that weasel on 750am the Game, nor do I read Goe's drivel... Welcome to the ban.

gohuskies posted:

I read it sometimes back when the John Morgan guy was doing it, he was good, but once he left I did as well. And I was smart enough to stay out of the comments, even then.

FizFashizzle posted:

I'm in the entertainment industry our here in Los Angeles

Crazy685 posted:

I dunno man smith is kinda playing like a top 5 receiver right now. He just makes incredible catches in traffic.

NC-17 posted:

Jeremy Shockey is a top tier rear end in a top hat and that's about all.

Benne posted:

This was from a few pages back but wanted to respond to this.


Yeah, I'm one of the mods at Field Gulls. The real problem isn't the so much as it is the unbridled stupidity that goes along with the . I was around that blog during the big "Charlie vs. Matt" wars in '10, and it was as loving stupid as you'd think it was.

Things have only gotten worse since the new writer took over. I tried to put a cap on all the shitposts, but that blog moves fast, and I only have so much free time, that at this point I'm just content to let them wallow in their own poo poo.

Fellow Seahawk fans, fire away. I'm ready for any criticism.

gohuskies posted:

Regarding Field Gulls moderation - I heard that in their fantasy football thread, if you say you are starting a player that is playing against the Seahawks that weekend, you get banned or at least admonished. True?

texags re:selling Kyle field naming rights posted:

if this is true, then to hell with it all. we've sold our soul and there aint much difference left between being an Aggie or a Longhorn or a Gator or a Tiger.

Sad but true. Kyle has already been neutered and Hollywoodized. When is the official burial ceremony?

jerkstore77 posted:

Thread Title: What if Jim Harbaugh wins a SB this year?


What do you think? Would he be considered the greatest rookie NFL coach of all-time? One thing for sure is that we 49er fans will definitely rejoice him as the 2nd coming of Bill Walsh. I didn't think we would be this good and competitive this year. I thought at best we were a 9-7 or 8-8 team. But the way things are looking we can possibly see a 13-3 or 12-4. We always had talent but we never had the right coaching. Discuss...

jerkstore77 posted:

Thread Title: Alex Smith in 2011 vs Joe Montana in 1981

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Montana 81- 16 Starts| 13-3 (.8125) | 19 TDs (1.18/game)| 12 INTs (.75/game)| 3565 YARDS (223/G)| 63.7 Comp % | QB Rating 88.4
Alex 2011------- 6 Starts | 5-1 (.8333) | 8 TDs (1.33/game) | 2 INTs (.33/game)| 1090 YARDS (182/G)| 63.3 Comp % | QB Rating 95.2

BIGFOOT PEE BED posted:

Lol indeed every stat is worse except interceptions (tiny sample size) which then throw off the QBR

whypick1 posted:

"Put in Charlie Whitehurst" - A couple of people around me at the Seahawks game today.

So much in so few words.

HeroOfTheRevolution posted:

If Kyle Field is dead where are they going to bury it???

jerkstore77 posted:

Man, monday mornings are so good on the 49ers fan board recently.

Title: Is this 49ers team the best in the NFL Right Now?

Do you think this team is the best in the NFL right now? The patriots aren't that good. The Steelers look flawed. The Lions have been exposed by the 49ers as average. The only team that seems to compare are the kings of hype the packers. SHould we be superbowl favorites?

terrin posted:

The Lions were exposed by the 49ers as average because the 49ers might be the best team and they beat the Lions narrowly. Right?

kturner, poster on Mississippi State rivals posted:

This dog just dont hunt. This issue has been beaten to death.

Everyone with half a brain knows Cam Newton was bought and paid for by Auburn.

Everyone with half a brain knows Al Gore got more votes than George Bush Jr in the 2000 Presidential election.

Everyone with half a brain knows we invaded Iraq under false pretenses using the ruse of looking for weapons of mass destruction...which by the way...never materialized.

Everyone knows OJ Simpson murdered his wife, got away with it, and was later framed by associates for a robbery that still resulted in his incarceration.

Everyone knows John F Kennedy was shot by more than one assassin.

Everyone knows that the Civil War was fought over slavery.

But what everyone KNOWS has little to do wtih facts and peoples perception of reality....cuz...

Few people know that the NCAA is not some abstract entity, its a body of governance put together by universities. And so yes, the most powerful and influential universities and that universities hire, appoint, and oversee its duties and functions.

Few people know that college eduacated African Americans are actually very conservative and borderline Tea Partyish, the only reason they (or we) still support the Democrats is because conservatives appeal to racism to get votes.

Few people know that despite all Cam Newtons garbage in his past, he is actually a very smart man and a highly competitive player worthy of his draft pick.

And...outside of Mississippi, few people know Mississipians have the prettiest women, the smartest citizenship, and a population that in many ways is light years beyond many other states.

Few people really know, understand or are willing to accept reality. So all the Cam Newton articles about his "pay for Play" can come out, reveal new information, and may even one day prove the pay for play scheme.

But it wont matter cuz we are not really interested in that, its water under the bridge and most of us have moved on. We all understand college football is corrupt. We all understand TSUN's entire image was built on racial hatred, we all understand that LSU, Bama, Auburn, TSUN, Georgia, Florida, and S. Carolina's alumni, boosters, and in some cases coaches are gonna bribe their recruits with money, women, cars, housing, jobs, and promises to get into the NFL.

We understand and accept that as a fact of life. So in the big picture and overal scheme of things...Cam Newtons issues kinda just blend in and "morph" into our views of "business as usual".

The NCAA and its policies are like democracy...its the worst governing philosophy around, but it also just happens to be the best we've come up with so far.

Ben is not cool posted:

Ben is not cool posted:

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outside of Mississippi, few people know Mississipians have... a population that in many ways is light years beyond many other states.

Serisothikos posted:

Unless he's referring to their lynching technology, which is truly leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the country, I doubt this.