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Minimaul posted:Oh, just got gifted from T10 a Forza 4 painted 458 Italia. Already had a non-painted one from the import though (also got duplicate rx7). Give me something I don't already have! That, and it has a lower PI than the stock one? Edit: drat new page. Have this thing again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA7cYbSKw8A
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I only got another spirit r what the heck.
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Nov 10, 2011 03:51
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T-Square posted:That, and it has a lower PI than the stock one? Both of mine are S645.
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Nov 10, 2011 03:52
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Kinda got a kick out of the fact that one of the two spirit r's is four pounds lighter than the other one.
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Nov 10, 2011 04:06
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Oh god, they've instilled the spirit of Diablo 2 into FM4. Soon you'll be trading your -4LB spirit for a +3hp one or something and using Datsun 510's as currency.
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What's a good car to troll drag race matches with? Something that will really piss off pubbies and they won't expect to see win?
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Nov 10, 2011 04:33
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I wish T10 would give me cool things. 
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real_scud posted:It does work that way in a lot of cars now. I know my Audi A4 has it, as do apparently a lot of Nissan cars as an option.
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Nov 10, 2011 05:53
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Seriously, why not give out the camaro SS? Everyone already has the RX7 and the subaru, I want the damned camaro. Or one of the other ones. It just makes no sense that they gave out more RX7s since they gave them out for the preorder thing.
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T-Square posted:I put everything on that's allowed, including the front wing and I'm at C415 with BBS RS-GTs. What am I missing? I come up with a limit of C385 with the (correct) street exhaust and only C404 with the (typo) Sport exhaust. I have to put on the Race Intake to get to C415. Race Oil Cooling Street Brakes Race Springs and Dampers Race/Stock F/R bars Full Cage Race weight reduction. Street Clutch Race Diff and transmission Lightweight wheels (but not the lightest) No Aero.
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Nov 10, 2011 09:45
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On Christmas, lets do a gift exchange. Except the gifts will be cars. Like a secret santa kinda thing. Preferably rides that you customized, and not too expensive.
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ChocNitty posted:On Christmas, lets do a gift exchange. Except the gifts will be cars. Like a secret santa kinda thing. Preferably rides that you customized, and not too expensive. This is an amazing idea. Props. 
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Nov 10, 2011 10:08
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I said come in! posted:What's a good car to troll drag race matches with? Something that will really piss off pubbies and they won't expect to see win? You'll have to be more specific, what are the parameters of this fantasy drag race? e. Whatever you can make lightest staying under your HP limit and obviously AWD>Rest and make sure any HP gains come from engine upgrades that shed weight.
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I said come in! posted:What's a good car to troll drag race matches with? Something that will really piss off pubbies and they won't expect to see win? Let me tell you that the 510 with every upgrade available is loving amazing down the drag strip. It just moves so drat quick.
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General Probe posted:You'll have to be more specific, what are the parameters of this fantasy drag race? I remember seeing in Forza 3, people had Datsuns that they were bringing into drag races that beat absolutely everything. Something like that, that shouldn't belong in a drag race, and it causes the racing sim nerds to lose their poo poo over it.
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Nov 10, 2011 15:01
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I'm getting frustrated with how terrible I am. Just ONCE I would like to win an online race. I have bought and changed-up SO MANY B-Class rides, and the best I have ever mustered is a 3rd place finish, running almost perfect laps and getting involved in no scrapes. Even in that race, two people just blasted ahead like they were in A or S class cars. So I've tried cars that handle decent with stock tires and no handling upgrades, dumped everything into hp, and still can't even come close to competing for a win. I've tried all engine upgrades plus a race transmission and differential so I can make the car top out right at the end of the longest straight on a particular track. I'm guessing in order to compete you have to actually really be able to fine-tune a car? Is there any guide out there for dummies like me? I don't mind losing a lot. But I would at least like to be able to compete for a win. It's not very fun when I know from the start I have no chance in hell to ever finish first.
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Nov 10, 2011 15:10
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I dunno man, you should be able to win with most stuff, without a tune. E: Online. Duhhh I can't read. Bape Culture fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Nov 10, 2011 15:19
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Get a Javelin and get my C425 tune off the storefront. If I can win with it, using a controller and full autobox, you can too.
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Nov 10, 2011 15:21
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I try not to stress it to much with losing online. I usually come in near last but whatever, the game still gives you a lot of credits and experience just for being a loser.
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Nov 10, 2011 15:21
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biglads posted:Get a Javelin and get my C425 tune off the storefront. If you're willing to use the broken leaderboard cars, this or the Superbee @B500 are great fun. Don't know how much you'd get kicked from pubbie games though
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Nov 10, 2011 15:27
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Jabs posted:Huh. Hmm. Maybe I had an intake on it from earlier, I'll have to check when I get home tonight. I think I might have a sport exhaust too, so Ill have to change that
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Nov 10, 2011 16:18
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Boosted_C5 posted:Losing If you aren't already, use manual w/clutch for the improved shift times. I race with LLJK pretty much every night and only win when none of the good players are on. Even when the PI numbers are even across the board you can still tell who actually knows how to tune a car. I would say knowing what you're doing with your dampers and roll bars are just as if not more important that maximizing horsepower.
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Nov 10, 2011 16:26
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Boosted_C5 posted:I'm getting frustrated with how terrible I am. Just ONCE I would like to win an online race. If you catch me in the IRC room, I wouldn't mind following you in a race to see if you're doing anything obviously wrong.
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Nov 10, 2011 16:56
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We can set up a lobby tonight and ALL follow C5 around.
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I can't make a suggestion for B class, but after my first few races online I realized that I needed to completely change my tuning strategy. Maximizing wheel upgrades only helps in A+ where the cars have lots of horsepower. For classes F through C it seems and you really need to focus on horsepower before upgrading tires, if at all. B is probably more of a middle-ground. After I went back switched my tires for engine upgrades on my lower class cars, I instantly jumped into at least competing for the top 5. I still suck and don't win, but at least I feel competitive.
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Boosted_C5 posted:I'm guessing in order to compete you have to actually really be able to fine-tune a car? Not really. Tuning is certainly a good thing, but it's not going to be the difference between first and last place. It matters a lot more in the real world where everyone is a hardcore professional and can take advantage of shaving thousandths of a second off their corners. In the amateur world that is Forza, races are won by seconds, not by fractions of a second. If you watch replays you'll notice that the winners always have one thing in common.. they don't mess up. This isn't because they have some secret tuning setup, it's because they know the racing line. Sliding around every corner with shrieking tires may feel faster, but I guarantee you it's not. The "secret" to consistently winning Forza races is picking balanced upgrades, not choosing a dog of a car, and knowing the track well.
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Boosted_C5 posted:I don't mind losing a lot. But I would at least like to be able to compete for a win. It's not very fun when I know from the start I have no chance in hell to ever finish first. I'd say your best bet would be to go race a ghost that is high ranking on the leaderboards without the use of a cheater car. Follow their line and see how they're taking corners faster than you. xzzy posted:Sliding around every corner with shrieking tires may feel faster, but I guarantee you it's not. What he said ^ My ethic when it comes to Forza is that your tyres can only put down 100% of their grip, you need to distribute that 100% between braking, accelerating and cornering. If you exceed the 100% you're going to lose grip and it's going to slow you down. Jarf fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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xzzy posted:Not really. Tuning is certainly a good thing, but it's not going to be the difference between first and last place. It matters a lot more in the real world where everyone is a hardcore professional and can take advantage of shaving thousandths of a second off their corners. In the amateur world that is Forza, races are won by seconds, not by fractions of a second. I'm not disagreeing with you, obviously following the racing line makes a big difference, but when somebody knows how to tune their car they are going to be experiencing less over/understeer through the corners and be better able to maintain speed throughout. Races aren't being won by fractions of a second but you can easily pull ahead a couple of seconds in a race if you have your poo poo properly tuned.
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Trap Star posted:I'm not disagreeing with you, obviously following the racing line makes a big difference, but when somebody knows how to tune their car they are going to be experiencing less over/understeer through the corners and be better able to maintain speed throughout. Races aren't being won by fractions of a second but you can easily pull ahead a couple of seconds in a race if you have your poo poo properly tuned. I will have to disagree. I win quite a lot, but aside from my Tesla (which had to be tuned just to be driveable), all of my cars are just upgraded; I cannot tune anything past FWD cars in lower classes without making the car worse. I'd say knowing the track and car are way, way more important. As an example, my NSX-R GT has the race suspension and all, but I haven't touched anything because I have no idea what to do. Yet despite this, it's about as fast as my Tesla while being more balanced, and I routinely win with it. Another piece of advice I can give is to find a car type that you're comfortable with. I personally do leagues better in anything mid-engined RWD, for instance, because those kinds of cars suit my driving style quite a bit. YMMV, though, and they do have the disadvantage of being difficult to reign back in if you start to lose it.
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Trap Star posted:I'm not disagreeing with you, obviously following the racing line makes a big difference, but when somebody knows how to tune their car they are going to be experiencing less over/understeer through the corners and be better able to maintain speed throughout. Races aren't being won by fractions of a second but you can easily pull ahead a couple of seconds in a race if you have your poo poo properly tuned. I just think new drivers put too much emphasis on tuning. They see it as this undiscovered frontier where those 'in the know' are using their secret knowledge to dominate races, when that's not the case. They would probably dominate even with a poorly tuned car. I guess a good way to test this is do some stock races, and watch if the same patterns develop.
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xzzy posted:I just think new drivers put too much emphasis on tuning. They see it as this undiscovered frontier where those 'in the know' are using their secret knowledge to dominate races, when that's not the case. They would probably dominate even with a poorly tuned car. We already do a good number of stock races, and you're correct, essentially it's the same people coming in first and last, so there's certainly a mix of driving well and a proper tune. I suppose my anecdotal evidence is the RS500 I had HumpDumper tune for me. My tuned version was the same PI as his, I drive the same line when I'm test driving my cars, but he had practically eliminated the oversteer/understeer that was occurring and the car grips like it's glued to the road now, so at least in that specific scenario it seems to me like tuning can be a world of difference. I think we can agree it's a balance of driving skills and a decent tune, but providing everybody knows to follow the proper route I think you can agree a tune can make a huge impact e: make sure to fix the loose nut behind the wheel first, right?
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Is the only way to get the Noble M600 through the collector's edition?
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Brace posted:Is the only way to get the Noble M600 through the collector's edition? Sure is  
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xzzy posted:I guess a good way to test this is do some stock races, and watch if the same patterns develop. It's coming up at 7PST / 8MST / 9CST / 10EST tonight. I'll post 3 tunes with all of the allowed upgrades to my Storefront for those that don't want to muck about with it. I used the Forza4 Tuning Spreadsheet, and I think it came out reasonably balanced. I've used that same spreadsheet on several of my other cars in the last few days, and they've all come out the other side of it being MUCH more driveable, with less of (whatever happened to bothering me about it), with the exception of the Bel-Air, which swapped piglike understeer for a moderate amount of power-on oversteer. It seems like a pretty good starting place to me, and it's well supported with reference data. 'Spec Miata Aero' is ForzaTuned with Aero on it with max downforce (100#) set. 'Spec Miata' is ForzaTuned with no Aero. SpecMiata is upgraded to the limit, with no adjustments. I'll also gift it if you want one to muck about with the tune, with the caveat that Transmission and Spring adjustments aren't allowed, and there are limits on camber. Shoot me (JabsTheGoon) a FR and a message to remind me that you want the tune. ENTRY LIST: 1. JabsTheGoon 2. Crow T Macbot (Flint Ironstag) 3. Turb0Snail (T-square) 4. Fryskate 5. matybara 6. Logue 1 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Also - any suggestions on how to get everyone to the same place at the same time are completely welcome! Also, I don't remember if I got around to posting this. Anyone interested? Looks like a riot, and there's quite a pot full of Spacebucks available as prizes. Kenny Rogers fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Nov 11, 2011 |
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Nov 10, 2011 23:11
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Datsuns own, FACT!     SAEG owns, FACT!
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Jarf posted:Datsuns own, FACT! awesome pictures, reminds me why I must get a HDtv sometime. The Bieber Datsun was mine, you didnt get any pictures of my sweet wolf decal on the hood.
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Count me in on that Miata show, Jabs. For some reason I can't send you a FR. I'm FrlncSclst.
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OK, Here we go, Ye Olde 2.5 Hours of Goon Mans entry time. Remember, car must be 650PI, RWD, and from the 50s or 60s. Race is Saturday at 6pm EST/11pm GMT. Please, when signing up, say what car you plan on using, primary color of the car, and pick any number between 0 and 99 and slap it on the car. Post glamor shot of car if you like. 1. Kilonum (Kilonum) | Ferrari 330 P4 | Polychromatic Purple/Black | 82 2. TannhauserGate (calderracrusade) | Chevrolet Corvette C1 | Red/White | 13 3. Torn Quad Jones (zombi3lick3r) | Chevrolet Corvette C2 | Pink/White | 56 4. ANAmal.net (gregchiasson) | Shelby Daytona Coupe | blue | 29 5. Logue (Logue 1) | Dodge Charger Daytona | Orange | 71 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16.  
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God drat it, I suck so bad at this game. First turn of Jab's endurance race and I go flying off turn 1 and never even see the car in front of me again.
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