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OrganizedEntropy posted:Another shot of the rear but the tires look pretty much the same with the exception of the Trans Am snowflake wheels. Those wheels look almost identical to the SVT package wheels on the current GT500  shodanjr_gr posted:Well the GT500 uses Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar rubber. The widest I'm seeing on tire rack are 315s at R19 or 255s at R20. Which is weird since they are using R20s in the rear and I don't see them going with 255s.. Stock rear rubber on my GT500 is 285/35/20. They aren't the regular F1 Supercar, they're the Supercar G:2 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...romCompare1=yes
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Imperador do Brasil posted:Those wheels look almost identical to the SVT package wheels on the current GT500 HEY POORS HAVE YOU SEEN MY CAR?! 
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Nov 16, 2011 02:54
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frozenphil posted:HEY POORS HAVE YOU SEEN MY CAR?! His car isn't a vert. 
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Nov 16, 2011 03:18
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Dick Burglar posted:His car isn't a vert. Point stands! I'm just insanely jealous. There's a black/black SVT package GT500 sitting on the dealer's lot outside my living room window. It taunts me. 
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Nov 16, 2011 03:42
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Imperador do Brasil posted:Those wheels look almost identical to the SVT package wheels on the current GT500 My problem is when I see those wheels all I can think of is this: 
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Nov 16, 2011 03:43
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OrganizedEntropy posted:My problem is when I see those wheels all I can think of is this: Really, even though those two sets of wheels don't even look alike?
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Q_res posted:Really, even though those two sets of wheels don't even look alike? Ok now you're just being ridiculous. Yes, the fake Trans Am wheels are inset and the inner design thingy is a pentagram instead of a triangle and they're 10-spoke instead of 8, but still. They're fairly similar, dude.
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Nov 16, 2011 03:57
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The older FRPP wheels are HRE knockoffs anyway. Not saying they don't look good, mind.
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Nov 16, 2011 03:58
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Q_res posted:Really, even though those two sets of wheels don't even look alike? Not all of the snowflake style wheels for the trans am conversions look exactly like that anyhow but the common design philosophy is that they that snowflake design at the base of the spokes. The different Trans Am conversion kits all have slighty different modern implementations of those wheels anyhow. I would have preferred another HRE look alike as most of their wheel designs are pretty slick, I'm just bothered that when I look at the new wheels, the first thing I'm reminded of is a distinct design feature from the Trans Am, haha.
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Dick Burglar posted:Ok now you're just being ridiculous. Yes, the fake Trans Am wheels are inset and the inner design thingy is a pentagram instead of a triangle and they're 10-spoke instead of 8, but still. They're fairly similar, dude. edit: poo poo, I hosed up. I posted that looking at the wheels on the convertible. Yeah, I definitely see it. My bad. Q_res fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Nov 16, 2011 |
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Well, now that any interest I had in the Camaro ZL1 is officially gone, I need to see how much Canadians get gouged when the release the pricing on this. If they can keep MSRP within a couple grand of the 58K CAD that the 2012 costs I think I may have found my next car. Not that I really need all that power but GOD drat is that nice looking
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Lt. Jebus posted:Well, now that any interest I had in the Camaro ZL1 is officially gone, I need to see how much Canadians get gouged when the release the pricing on this. Nobody needs that much power but it's loving awesome to have!! I'm abit annoyed that I didn't wait until 2013 as I'd love to have 650 hp for bragging rights (the guys at my office give me enough poo poo about driving a ford). I've been hearing rumors that it could be quite a price leap over the current models (a loaded 2011/2012 SVTPP ended up being roughly 66K CAD) so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Although, I'm betting a guy could get a really screaming deal on a 2012 now. At the dealership where I got mine in Calgary, they had 11 GT500's: 2012's AND 2011's sitting around and we giving out around 8K - 10K off MSRP when I bought. It would be very easy to bump the 2011/2012's up to the 2013 power levels if a guy is willing to part with his warranty, haha. OrganizedEntropy fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Nov 16, 2011 |
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OrganizedEntropy posted:Nobody needs that much power but it's loving awesome to have!! I'm abit annoyed that I didn't wait until 2013 as I'd love to have 650 hp for bragging rights (the guys at my office give me enough poo poo about driving a ford). I've been hearing rumors that it could be quite a price leap over the current models (a loaded 2011/2012 SVTPP ended up being roughly 66K CAD) so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Around $4k puts an '11/'12 GT500 solidly into the 700rwhp range.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:While I love the new engine specs and will probably need to upgrade mine next year as a result, I am definitely not a fan of the new rear end. That horizontal body line that runs above the exhaust/fascia gives it a boat hull like look. This update almost fixes everything that turned me off about the 2012 rear, the new rear end is hot.
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I was always fond of these wheels. Also:   I know I said I wasn't a fan of the new front end, but on the Boss it just works.
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SouthLAnd posted:I was always fond of these wheels. I agree, ask anyone here I was pretty critical of the 2012's looks especially those poo poo-tastic decals. The new one is just pure sex. I'd do anything to get my hands on yellow 2013 BOSS. The previous BOSS always looked more sneaker than car (if that makes sense), the new one fixes it completely.
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frozenphil posted:Around $4k puts an '11/'12 GT500 solidly into the 700rwhp range. Just for shits 'n giggles I'm going to start off with a set of headers, computer tune and maybe a pulley this winter. I'm not looking for big power just yet but I absolutely love the sound of a mod engine with long tubes. A simple cat back won't do it justice.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:Just for shits 'n giggles I'm going to start off with a set of headers, computer tune and maybe a pulley this winter. I'm not looking for big power just yet but I absolutely love the sound of a mod engine with long tubes. A simple cat back won't do it justice. I'd recommend saving your money.
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frozenphil posted:I'd recommend saving your money. I'll cross that bridge once I'm ready for a big leap in power, right now I mostly just want more noise. I've installed LT's on 3 vehicles within 3000 - 5000 km of buying them. They'll only compliment the addition of a bigger blower down the road. The problem is that with the LT's, you have to get a computer tune to reduce the risk of running lean based on my conversations with any of the tuners. With my NA GM vehicles, you could just throw the headers on and run them for a year or two before pulling the trigger on a dyno tune but the supercharged engines respond differently.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:I'll cross that bridge once I'm ready for a big leap in power, right now I mostly just want more noise. I've installed LT's on 3 vehicles within 3000 - 5000 km of buying them. A good dyno tune is probably worth more power than headers anyway, so it's not a waste of money; especially for the amount of safety you'll get from knowing your poo poo is running right. In other news, the new 5.0 King of the Street video is out. I love this competition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXn09-nmSl8
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mod sassinator posted:Wow I hope they put wider rubber on the rear too. The Camaro ZL1 will have 305 width tires in the rear I think. Well they're finally getting to putting out the C7 (Jalopnik has the artist's conception of the actual car which they can't show photos of yet), so I have to assume we'll see some bumps in HP there too.
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I know it's a taboo subject in muscle car circles, but with that much power these cars could benefit from a good AWD system.
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blargle posted:I know it's a taboo subject in muscle car circles, but with that much power these cars could benefit from a good AWD system. On the street, maybe, but anyone running over 700hp isn't really concerned with their performance on the street.
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You know the f150 has a good 4wd system they could squeeze under there. Everything else comes from an f150. The front end would be about 10 inches higher but it would just make it look like a retro gasser.
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How about they put the supercharged 5.8 liter engine in the Raptor and call it good.
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mod sassinator posted:How about they put the supercharged 5.8 liter engine in the Raptor and call it good. 6.2L or bust
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blargle posted:I know it's a taboo subject in muscle car circles, but with that much power these cars could benefit from a good AWD system. There would be bits of it all over the road quite quickly, wheelspin is a much better way to get rid of excess power.
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blargle posted:I know it's a taboo subject in muscle car circles, but with that much power these cars could benefit from a good AWD system. Add the weight of AWD on to to the GT500 and you end up with a car that's a lot heavier and probably gets hit with a gas guzzler tax on top of making the die hards angry. You're better of using computer magic to get what you want in terms of traction from RWD. I think AWD is dead everywhere outside the high end sports car and truck markets.
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mod sassinator posted:How about they put the supercharged 5.8 liter engine in the Raptor and call it good. I know of at least one company working on a supercharger for the 6.2L. Ford already has one from some big truck they make.
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kronix posted:I think AWD is dead everywhere outside the high end sports car and truck markets. And the boring people-transport appliances that are all getting an AWD option now because "WOW MORE TRACTION!!!!!"
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Dick Burglar posted:And the boring people-transport appliances that are all getting an AWD option now because "WOW MORE TRACTION!!!!!" AWD in a driving appliance is extremely useful when it snows. It's why so many people buy non-turbo Subarus.
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frozenphil posted:HEY POORS HAVE YOU SEEN MY CAR?! Phil, if I wanted to make all you plebes jealous, I would have posted a better picture than a dealership stock photo. Like this one:  I kid, I kid. I was just pointing out the similarities between wheels... Imperador do Brasil fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Nov 18, 2011 |
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kronix posted:
That's all well-and-good, but the truth is that AWD is becoming ubiquitous. There are so many vehicles now that offer AWD as an option, and a lot of people are opting for it. I can foresee manufactures starting to look at bringing AWD options down from their higher-end offerings to their small cars. Just about every crossover offers it, half of Ford sedans offer it, three-out-of-four Lexus sedans offer it, Infiniti offers it throughout their lineup, and the list goes on.
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sanchez posted:AWD in a driving appliance is extremely useful when it snows. It's why so many people buy non-turbo Subarus. I was pointing out that AWD was not "dead everywhere outside the high end sports car and truck markets."
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What are the GT500 rims? I love that style but I only know of HRE and VMR that make them. I want to find some lightweight ones in 17" for the S200.
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Muffinpox posted:What are the GT500 rims? I love that style but I only know of HRE and VMR that make them. I want to find some lightweight ones in 17" for the S200. True Forged Chicanes look similar and they'll make em however you want em. The Mustang RTR wheels are also similar, but I'm not sure if they offer 17s; I'm sure someone has made knock offs in that size.
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These 2013 Mustangs are drat awesome. Makes waiting for the 2014 one that much harder.
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Dick Burglar posted:I was pointing out that AWD was not "dead everywhere outside the high end sports car and truck markets." Maybe it's not dead today but you better believe the new standards for mileage in the next 10 years will all but kill it dead outside of the markets I specified. You can't expect to sell any car in volume anymore that gets < 30 mpg because you're going to have to sell a lot hybrids and electrics to drag up averages. Some car companies can and will pay fines but they'll have to charge more as a result. BMW already pays but they pass on that cost to you. You're more likely to see a hybrid/electric Mustang than a traditional AWD version. Electric motors up front like the porsche hybrid race car don't count.
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The obvious solution is cylinder deactivation for EPA testing. I think 1/8 of 650hp is enough to move the car around. That should equal 80 mpg 8 times the v8!
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Elephanthead posted:The obvious solution is cylinder deactivation for EPA testing. I think 1/8 of 650hp is enough to move the car around. That should equal 80 mpg 8 times the v8! I look forward to 1->5 skip shifts.
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