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alr
May 14, 2009

captainOrbital posted:

Also: Spa and Bathurst for 2800 points apiece.

I'd buy them day one, with no regrets. :(

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I would at least buy Bathurst without question.

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




I said come in! posted:

rumor of a new Hyundai

I will punch someone if it is a Veloster

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

djfooboo posted:

I will punch someone if it is a Veloster

That is exactly what it is rumored to be. I think you should be prepared to punch someone. As long as it's not me.

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


Didn't Hyundai have a free DLC pack a month or so after 3 came out?

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

Deeters posted:

Didn't Hyundai have a free DLC pack a month or so after 3 came out?
Yes, the 2010 Hyundai Genesis (awesome car by the way, drives very well even stock), the GT spec R2 monster that hugs the racetrack like it had ground effects and the Rhys Millen drift car.

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

I said come in! posted:

That is exactly what it is rumored to be. I think you should be prepared to punch someone. As long as it's not me.

There was an ad for the Veloster on XBox Live that said "Veloster: Engineered for Forza Motorsport 4" or something like that, so it seems to be more than just a rumor.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



djfooboo posted:

I will punch someone if it is a Veloster

But the Veloster looks to be a pretty cool little car :confused:

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate

Cannot Find Server posted:

But the Veloster looks to be a pretty cool little car :confused:

Yeah but it's not some tune-up junker from 48BC that he drove in college and used to autocross. They don't make cars like that anymore, you know.

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Cannot Find Server posted:

But the Veloster looks to be a pretty cool little car :confused:

My problem with it is that it has two doors on one side and one door on the other, which is dumb and makes no sense. But that's not relevant in a racing game, so I don't see what the problem is.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I just got back from sea. I just bought it. First thing I did, after installing everything, is go to Toyota.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG THE AW11 IS FINALLY IN!!!!

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I've been playing Forza 4 more and more now without any driving aids, and have gotten really good with R1 cars. Setting faster lap times then I did with ABS and TC enabled. This is with a gamepad, so I won't ever be able to compete with the fastest players, but I can do well and not make mistakes. With no driving aids enabled, the driving model feels really good. In Gran Turismo 5, your car would just decide for no reason at all to spin you, it was completely terrible and unrealistic to play that without aids.

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




Cannot Find Server posted:

But the Veloster looks to be a pretty cool little car :confused:

It's just that I can name a hundred other cars I would rather have. We only get ten a month (I think) so I feel it utilizes resources that could be spent on something infinitely more awesome. I don't doubt the Veloster is a fun little car in real life.

Maybe some endurance racing Turn 10? :kiddo:

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

A lot of it comes down to Turn-10 being able to get permission to barrow someones car and scan it. They probably have to take whatever they can get.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
It's not like you asking your neighbor to lend you his Ford pickup for a run to Home Depot. I am sure money and advertising rights change hands. Given how huge the Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsports series audiences are, I am sure most manufacturers are more than happy to work with Polyphony Digital/Turn 10 to get more of their models into the games.

It'd be nice to get an inside look at how the decisions are made for DLC. They probably have a good-sized collection of vehicles that are in beta stages of completion and they have to decide which to pour resources into to get them to the quality level required for release. I bet you Turn 10 is sitting on a pretty good asset pool at the moment, given their workflow (model and texture at the highest quality possible, reduce for release to provide future-proofing of their library).

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 26, 2011

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



djfooboo posted:

It's just that I can name a hundred other cars I would rather have. We only get ten a month (I think) so I feel it utilizes resources that could be spent on something infinitely more awesome. I don't doubt the Veloster is a fun little car in real life.

Maybe some endurance racing Turn 10? :kiddo:

Most cars added in DLC are new cars. I'd love for certain cars to be added, like the Z31 300zx and the FB RX-7 (having owned and adored them both), but a new performance-minded car like the Veloster is a much surer bet than 30 year old sports cars, no matter how cool old cars may be. It's mostly about marketing; if you were Mazda, for example, would you rather give Turn 10 a 30 year old RX-7 or a new Mazdaspeed 3 to add to the game? poo poo, rotary-engined sports cars as a whole will be dead next year (which is a gigantic loving shame). It's a no-brainer.

I do agree that they need to bring back endurance racing. I cannot understand why they removed it in the first place.

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
I think they removed the endurance races from the game is because no one (or very few people) WANTED to do them for the career mode, and since you can set up your own endurance races as a private lobby, you're all set.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I've seen a few people complain about wanting endurance races to come back in the event list, I think they are crazy though. I wouldn't do them either.

Sunday Punch
Mar 4, 2009

There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.

I said come in! posted:

I've seen a few people complain about wanting endurance races to come back in the event list, I think they are crazy though. I wouldn't do them either.

I don't really miss the endurance races (since after 3 or 4 laps you're hotlapping by yourself), but I am sad they removed the Super Lap Days.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
I would have preferred less races but give all the races more laps. 3 laps isn't enough to get into your groove.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

Falken posted:

I would have preferred less races but give all the races more laps. 3 laps isn't enough to get into your groove.

It is simply not enough to race. It's enough to get in front by outclassing the competition with an overpowered car (or easy AI), or to bumpercar yourself up there in a car more in line with the rest of the field. But it's not enough to have a real race where you work for and set up 4,5,6 or more proper passing maneuvers.

Alex Earl Cash
Feb 21, 2011

GhostDog posted:

It is simply not enough to race. It's enough to get in front by outclassing the competition with an overpowered car (or easy AI), or to bumpercar yourself up there in a car more in line with the rest of the field. But it's not enough to have a real race where you work for and set up 4,5,6 or more proper passing maneuvers.

Thats also very class dependent.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

3 laps is barely enough to get the tires warm.

I understand people want short races to make it easier to grind through the event list, but I think a much better decision would have been to cut the number of events in half, and double lap counts.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I've done over 60% of the Events List and am pretty much finished with it now. Now I just do multiplayer with other players, or setup my own races against the A.I., and pick the tracks I want and set the laps for about 7 laps on hard A.I. with no assists. Everyonce in a while i'll do more laps. The multiplayer is a dream come true for me, it offers everything i've wanted for customization.

Popehoist
Feb 5, 2008

There you go rubens, all your fault! You went on the wrong side of the car!
Applied to the LLJK group ingame! when do goons usually race? Hope its not at 3am like forza 3

Irish Legend
Aug 12, 2011

Falken posted:

I would have preferred less races but give all the races more laps. 3 laps isn't enough to get into your groove.

It is funny because a lot of people complained about the longer races in 2 and 3. Most of the time you end up out in the lead and its a 6 lap time trial. I see it both ways i guess, and prefer the shorter races because online provides better competition and thats when more laps is needed.

Of course this is all IMO.

Rickets
Jul 21, 2006

Them's my dancin' knees!

General Probe posted:

They were almost all in LLJK in the initial sign up wave. I recommended them to be kicked since it was pretty obvious they weren't playing and I thought it would be nice for people who intend to play but couldn't pick the game up until later to still be able to join the club. If they decide to come back the game they can always just ask for a reup.

Speaking of, I sent an invite to LLJK as RopeyRope, it would be super if I could get in

speedtek
Nov 26, 2004

Let's make it out, baby.
I just re-applied to LLJK as well, no one in GISH is ever on (at least when I'm on)

e: gt N1CK S0APD1SH

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

I said come in! posted:

I've been playing Forza 4 more and more now without any driving aids, and have gotten really good with R1 cars. Setting faster lap times then I did with ABS and TC enabled. This is with a gamepad, so I won't ever be able to compete with the fastest players, but I can do well and not make mistakes. With no driving aids enabled, the driving model feels really good. In Gran Turismo 5, your car would just decide for no reason at all to spin you, it was completely terrible and unrealistic to play that without aids.

I keep everything shut off except auto trans. The feel of getting your car tuned to the limit and having oversteer available in a controllable way really helps lap times.

I said come in! posted:

I've seen a few people complain about wanting endurance races to come back in the event list, I think they are crazy though. I wouldn't do them either.

I'm a veteran of the recent Goon Mans and you don't know what you are missing. Aero damage at the half hour mark is really fun.

No. Honest. It is.

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Nov 27, 2011

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

VikingSkull posted:

I'm a veteran of the recent Goon Mans and you don't know what you are missing. Aero damage at the half hour mark is really fun.

No. Honest. It is.

I meant for the single player portion. I'm all for endurance races in multiplayer with pit stops and all that, those are a lot more fun.

Fortuitous Bumble
Jan 5, 2007

VikingSkull posted:

I keep everything shut off except auto trans. The feel of getting your car tuned to the limit and having oversteer available in a controllable way really helps lap times.

It definitely feels better with the driving aids off but I wish there was a more adjustable range, right now with TCS and ABS on a high powered car you can either turn it on and it's almost impossible to slide out the back of the car or skid through a turn, or turn it off so with R3+ cars you're always within a few millimeters of throttle travel to wrecking your car (at least with the xbox controller). I'm pretty sure I remember playing Gran Turismo 3 or 4 and having little sliders for each of the options so you could still have some assists without killing your performance, which I think is closer to what those systems do in modern cars anyway.

Also, is there any reason in an NA car to choose an aspiration conversion before getting all the engine upgrades? It doesn't seem like the performance rating takes into account turbo lag and by time I've got all the engine tuning upgrades adding a turbo gives my car so much power it's kind of pointless.

Puddin
Apr 9, 2004
Leave it to Brak
So when is the new enduro going to be? Anyone put any thought into what a good setup would be?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Yes, the Gran Turismo games have those settings, and I wish they were in Forza. With ABS and TC both set between 1 - 3 in GT5, the driving felt pretty good in any car.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Any rumours of the Toyota 86 in the next DLC pack? I hope so!

Puddin
Apr 9, 2004
Leave it to Brak
GT pushed the new concept thing pretty hard, it being in the majority of all their promo vids and stuff. Would be very surprised if they didn't have that locked down on some exclusivity deal.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

A5H posted:

Any rumours of the Toyota 86 in the next DLC pack? I hope so!
Just drive a Hyundai Genesis, it looks just like one.

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
I always left ABS and TCS (for high power cars) in GT5 cause the tire sound were absolutely SHITTTTTTY. That's 90% of my cues for tire slip issues in FM4.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

Falken posted:

Just drive a Hyundai Genesis, it looks just like one.

the genisis is heavier, has worse weight distribution and a higher cog :colbert:

Sayno
Sep 6, 2011
Gt is Sayno86 would like an invite to a club that does a lot of class specific racing and takes the rival challenges seriously. Ive built cars for all of them already and have beat my friends by miles on all of them! Would like a challenge from a real person instead of chasing some nameless first place time on a leaderboard

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DrPain
Apr 29, 2004

Purrfectly priceless
items here.
I'm so gay for track days rivals. Just cracked the top 2% on hockenhiem.

Take that, "ThreeAbboEskie", if that is your real name.

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