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Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

WeaselWeaz posted:

You did the wrong thing and lost unlimited data. If it's been less than 14 days you may be able to pick up a smartphone and get unlimited data re-added, but that's applying the same logic they use for renewals. VZW doesn't make you get an unlimited 4G plan, the 4G data use counts towards any data cap you have. The data plants are at http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/explore/?page=data And yes, the minimum plan is 5gb for $30 but if you renew through the holiday season they'll double your data and you'll get 10gb.

I know this is a couple pages behind, but whenever I activated my friend's RAZR for him, Verizon made him "upgrade" to the 4g plan. He lost unlimited data, too. I don't think my actual unlimited plan would've transferred over. :(

I don't see where you say 5gb is $30. The only thing I see is $30 for 2gb and it doesn't say anything about double data.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


This always seems to happen after they roll out a new market. A few places went live on the 5th so I guess it was that time again.

I don't even have 3G anymore. No more SIM warning after reboot, but nothing in the way of data either.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Dec 8, 2011

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

Bloodplay it again posted:

I know this is a couple pages behind, but whenever I activated my friend's RAZR for him, Verizon made him "upgrade" to the 4g plan. He lost unlimited data, too. I don't think my actual unlimited plan would've transferred over. :(

I don't see where you say 5gb is $30. The only thing I see is $30 for 2gb and it doesn't say anything about double data.

Yep, and 2g, I made a typo. In my own defense the guy is too lazy to look up plans on the website.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

WeaselWeaz posted:

Yep, and 2g, I made a typo. In my own defense the guy is too lazy to look up plans on the website.

I'm talking to Verizon right now. The lady I'm talking to said I might be able to be grandfathered in since the plan was dropped automatically whenever I reactivated my old phone and I had no choice in the matter.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...
Yeah, no data except 1X on my Thunderbolt in SF either.

dominator
Oct 1, 2003

Load Emotion File Happy_Human.bin
Processing.....
Processing..........
*ERROR: FILE NOT FOUND*
I bet it was a rogue Xyboard

maduin
Mar 4, 2003

Bloodplay it again posted:

I know this is a couple pages behind, but whenever I activated my friend's RAZR for him, Verizon made him "upgrade" to the 4g plan. He lost unlimited data, too. I don't think my actual unlimited plan would've transferred over. :(

I don't see where you say 5gb is $30. The only thing I see is $30 for 2gb and it doesn't say anything about double data.

You can definitely upgrade and keep it, unless something has changed in the past month.

NewcastleBrown
Mar 15, 2004
The One and Only
My Bionic finally got 3G back about an hour ago. I have to have it in CDMA mode only; setting it to CDMA/LTE kicks me to 1x and leaves me there until I switch back to just CDMA.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

maduin posted:

You can definitely upgrade and keep it, unless something has changed in the past month.

edit: I'm an idiot. Read below. Sorry for confusing everyone.

Now my only fear is the double data cap promo will end before the Galaxy Nexus comes out. If an end date ever appears with the GN nowhere in sight, I'm just gonna get a white Razr or Droid 4 instead. My dick uses more than 2gb of data a month and I don't care how great ICS is if it means I'm gonna be stuck with such a measly allotment.

Bloodplay it again fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Dec 8, 2011

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

NewcastleBrown posted:

My Bionic finally got 3G back about an hour ago. I have to have it in CDMA mode only; setting it to CDMA/LTE kicks me to 1x and leaves me there until I switch back to just CDMA.

The best part is the 1x failover and not being able to send any text messages. Thats my favorite.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

Bloodplay it again posted:

I think something has changed. He had a Droid on an unlimited data plan and when I went to activate the Razr, it said $30 plan wasn't compatible with a 4G LTE device. Called VZW and they said the data packages would only stay unlimited if the new device was 3G, so we wound up changing to the 4GB plan.

Now my only fear is the double data cap promo will end before the Galaxy Nexus comes out. If an end date ever appears with the GN nowhere in sight, I'm just gonna get a white Razr or Droid 4 instead. My dick uses more than 2gb of data a month and I don't care how great ICS is if it means I'm gonna be stuck with such a measly allotment.

The gently caress? The main reason we are staying on Verizon is for the unlimited 4G. This best not be the case.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Bloodplay it again posted:

My dick uses more than 2gb of data a month and I don't care how great ICS is if it means I'm gonna be stuck with such a measly allotment.

I mean objectively I know that's not a lot of porn, but on the phone? You can't wait until you get home?

tismondo
Dec 14, 2005

Take that, subspace!

Bloodplay it again posted:

I think something has changed. He had a Droid on an unlimited data plan and when I went to activate the Razr, it said $30 plan wasn't compatible with a 4G LTE device. Called VZW and they said the data packages would only stay unlimited if the new device was 3G, so we wound up changing to the 4GB plan.
This is wrong. There are no "3G" and "4G" plans. Just data. If you had unlimited on a 3G phone, you have unlimited when you switch to a 4G phone. If they took it away for you just for switching phones (not your phone line or your plan or anything else) you need to bitch and moan.

Groveling Toast
Jun 2, 2008

Codiusprime posted:

The gently caress? The main reason we are staying on Verizon is for the unlimited 4G. This best not be the case.

I went from the OG Droid to a Bionic about a month ago and kept unlimited. No one ever mentioned it.

sadus
Apr 5, 2004

Yep, Verizon has definitely confirmed switching to 4G shouldn't cause the loss of unlimited, but Verizon employees have said in on these forums that you only have 14 days to get them to correct it if someone drops it by mistake.

I would hope even that is not set in stone due to how ridiculous 2 GB/month is. Today of all days might be a good time to call too due to the network problems, maybe they'd be a little more willing to make people happy. "So you're telling me your improperly trained employees tricked me into losing my unlimited data plan, and I haven't even been given the opportunity to burn through my entire monthly quota in under 15 minutes today because the network has been down all day!"

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Bloodplay it again posted:

I think something has changed. He had a Droid on an unlimited data plan and when I went to activate the Razr, it said $30 plan wasn't compatible with a 4G LTE device. Called VZW and they said the data packages would only stay unlimited if the new device was 3G, so we wound up changing to the 4GB plan.

Now my only fear is the double data cap promo will end before the Galaxy Nexus comes out. If an end date ever appears with the GN nowhere in sight, I'm just gonna get a white Razr or Droid 4 instead. My dick uses more than 2gb of data a month and I don't care how great ICS is if it means I'm gonna be stuck with such a measly allotment.

Wait, did you do this activation online?

Backstory, you don't necessarily have to read this: I tried out an iPhone 4S and decided I didn't like it. I went back to the store and had them put my Thunderbolt back on, but the guy there screwed up up the activation and the SIM was still unactivated when I left (he told me "just wait a while" but nothing happened after an hour). I went online and noticed the iPhone was still on there, so I went through the activation process online with the number off the SIM they gave me.

The relevant part is that when I got the IMEI entered, it said the data plan wasn't compatible with the device. and gave me a list of choice for capped plans. I about lost my poo poo until I saw that the unlimited plan was still there, just kind of harder to pick out. I might have missed it if I wasn't looking hard, and it was a little sketchy that it said the plan I had wasn't compatible with the device I was activating.

So I would call them and or go to a store if it's within 14 days and see if they will put it back.


also, 4G seems back up and running here in St Louis now. Let's see if it sticks.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I don't care if 4G doesn't work right now, I'm guessing it's going to work later. You know what I'd rather have right now than 4G? A phone that responds to my inputs within five seconds, I don't have one of those right now and I'd really like one, even if it temporarily doesn't have 4G.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*
Okay, wow. I don't know where my head is/was at. I activated the Razr online and it said the plan wasn't compatible, so I switched to the $30 unlimited plan which is apparently still actually unlimited. I was under the assumption they just gave the 2gb plan "unlimited" in the name because the $50/5gb plan and onward also showed up. I was wondering why the $50 plan gave a cap but the $30 one didn't.

Thanks for the clarification, everyone, although now I have no clue what the Verizon rep meant. I repeated what I thought was said (that there are separate 3g and 4g plans) and it was agreed upon. Beats me.

With all of that being said, I think I should just get the Droid 4 when it's released and be done with it. My VX-9900's keyboard only half works and it's getting to the point where I have to restart the phone each time I want to send a text message or make a phone call.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


kitten smoothie posted:


also, 4G seems back up and running here in St Louis now. Let's see if it sticks.

I have it back on my Razr right now as well in Pittsburgh. Who knows how stable it will be though.

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002
4g Still dead around Denver. I'm stuck on this lovely loving DSL line shared by an entire goddamn hotel, which is what I got mobile hotspot to avoid in the first place.

Radio Nowhere
Jan 8, 2010

Radio Nowhere posted:

Been rocking 4G all afternoon here on my Thunderbolt, I'm north of DC.

I guess it was around 5 I noticed my phone eventually dropped to dreaded 1X. Around 9 the 3G icon lit up so progress since then! I'm home now so Wifi will serve my data needs.

Maxwedge
May 7, 2007
Just noticed this on amazon wireless.


Double Your Data on 4G Phones

For a limited time only, all 4G Verizon phones qualify for twice the amount of data for the same monthly price. New 4G smartphone activations and upgrades are eligible, including existing customers with 4G smartphones. Mobile hotspot allowance is not doubled, standard mobile hotspot pricing applies. Offer valid between midnight PDT November 8, 2011, through 11:59 p.m. PDT December 15, 2011, while supplies last.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Maxwedge posted:

Just noticed this on amazon wireless.


Double Your Data on 4G Phones

For a limited time only, all 4G Verizon phones qualify for twice the amount of data for the same monthly price. New 4G smartphone activations and upgrades are eligible, including existing customers with 4G smartphones. Mobile hotspot allowance is not doubled, standard mobile hotspot pricing applies. Offer valid between midnight PDT November 8, 2011, through 11:59 p.m. PDT December 15, 2011, while supplies last.

If this is the real end date and it gets to next Thursday with no Nexus release, maybe renting a RAZR for $35 isn't such a bad idea after all if you have to get on a tiered plan.

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

kitten smoothie posted:

If this is the real end date and it gets to next Thursday with no Nexus release, maybe renting a RAZR for $35 isn't such a bad idea after all if you have to get on a tiered plan.

Yep. I might even grab a RAZR and...gasp...consider keeping it.

I currently have one (GSM imported on ATT) and like it, but it's not the end all be all Jesus phone®

...but only if I can add the unlimited data using the $30 unlimited hotspot trick...

If that plan doesn't work, I'll return the whole deal and return to my ATT unlimited data plan.

No way I'm going on a tiered plan...and I only use about 4 gigs per month. For now.

No telling what the future holds and I'm not comfortable with any limit.

hotsauce fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Dec 8, 2011

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Okay, so how does the $30 hotspot trick work?

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Okay, so how does the $30 hotspot trick work?

From what I understand, you can get Verizon, sign up for whatever tiered plan you want, then call (not online or in-store) and ask to be put on the unlimited tethering plan. This apparently forces you onto an unlimited data plan.

Jury is still out as to whether this even will work since technically the unlimited hotspot plan is no longer.

XDA has a thread about it. I don't know if you can drop the tethering plan after adding and keep unlimited data. I also don't know if Verizon will do some sort of audit in 6 months knocking you to tiered. Many questions remain, so it's not for the feint of heart.

ATT is just pissing me off lately with lovely speeds during peak hours, so I may roll the dice. I'd venture to say the chances of everything working smoothly is around 20%. I may take my chances...

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Is it even possible to activate a 4G phone while LTE is down?

decoy octopus
Oct 26, 2005

You fat Loco, you fat

JayKay posted:

Is it even possible to activate a 4G phone while LTE is down?

Yes because after X amount of time (I'm not sure the actual time it varies for me when I do activations) it falls back onto 3G to activate.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
I got a chance to putz around with a demo GNex last night, and I'm glad that I decided to not go for the RAZR. World of difference in display quality, speed, everything.

Also, the built-in panorama mode on the ICS camera is pretty cool, I hadn't read anything about that before.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

I had to cycle airplane mode, but I'm back on 4G in the DC area.

decoy octopus posted:

Yes because after X amount of time (I'm not sure the actual time it varies for me when I do activations) it falls back onto 3G to activate.


Yeah, that was kind of a derp question. I forgot about all the people who are in non-4G areas and how they might activate their phones. :downs:

JayKay fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Dec 8, 2011

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Edit: double post

Bobx66
Feb 11, 2002

We all fell into the pit

Maxwedge posted:

Just noticed this on amazon wireless.


Double Your Data on 4G Phones

For a limited time only, all 4G Verizon phones qualify for twice the amount of data for the same monthly price. New 4G smartphone activations and upgrades are eligible, including existing customers with 4G smartphones. Mobile hotspot allowance is not doubled, standard mobile hotspot pricing applies. Offer valid between midnight PDT November 8, 2011, through 11:59 p.m. PDT December 15, 2011, while supplies last.

Ladies and gentlemen I think we have our release date. See you all on December 16th.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


JP Money posted:

It's CLEARLY that they didn't include the impact smart hard-drives. Duh.

I loving hate those commercials, and I'm glad to see someone else with at least a similar attitude toward their ridiculousness.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Bloodplay it again posted:

now I have no clue what the Verizon rep meant.

Neither did they, likely. CS agents tend to be the most clueless about what's going on.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Looks like the Droid 4 did not drop today, either. :(

Can... Can I join in the GNex misery party by proxy? :ohdear:

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006
The more the merrier.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Kyrosiris posted:

Looks like the Droid 4 did not drop today, either. :(


Latest date on that is 12/22 from leaked docs.

Also, even though the LTE phones can activate over 3G, all LTE phones use the SIM info for activation (even for 3G activation) so if Verizon's SIM activation servers were going wonky, it would affect 4G phones even out of 4G coverage.

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc

Maxwedge posted:

Just noticed this on amazon wireless.


Double Your Data on 4G Phones

For a limited time only, all 4G Verizon phones qualify for twice the amount of data for the same monthly price. New 4G smartphone activations and upgrades are eligible, including existing customers with 4G smartphones. Mobile hotspot allowance is not doubled, standard mobile hotspot pricing applies. Offer valid between midnight PDT November 8, 2011, through 11:59 p.m. PDT December 15, 2011, while supplies last.

Nah, that date is bullshit. It used to say through 11/30. They will keep pushing the date out as long as VZW says its OK. They don't know any more than any one else.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.
Prime is going to be the 15th, unless something else happens to delay it further.

I really hope my shipment comes in today and I can rub all your faces in it.

And the Double Data promo has no official end date yet, just "end of the year"

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Bobx66
Feb 11, 2002

We all fell into the pit

Mighty Horse posted:

Prime is going to be the 15th, unless something else happens to delay it further.

I really hope my shipment comes in today and I can rub all your faces in it.

And the Double Data promo has no official end date yet, just "end of the year"

Great I'm off to go post some headlines and whip up the internet into another frenzy brb.

Do you have a source?

"Prime is coming out on the 15th, unless it doesn't."

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