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MassRayPer posted:...could someone explain this more? I can't listen today but... what? It's really hard to do the whole thing justice, nor would I want to, but basically they spent 20 minutes droning on and on and on, rehashing the old argument about whether or not a guy who beats a #1 contender should automatically become the #1 contender, and the validity of a rankings system in the UFC. Then, when they seemed to be finally ready to move on, Bryan comes back with this analogy: "imagine if Canada invaded the US tomorrow, and all Obama did was go on TV and calmly explain that, because Canada isn't ranked as the #2 most powerful country in the world, they had no business invading the US, which is ranked #1, so they'd just have to pack their bags, go home, and maybe try again a few years down the line". Then they spent the last ~15 minutes of the show discussing 8-bit videogames. I swear to God, if I had anything stronger than alcohol in the house right now, I would do it and listen to this show again, because I'm fairly sure it would be a transcendental experience.
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These Drooling Idiots posted:"imagine if Canada invaded the US tomorrow, and all Obama did was go on TV and calmly explain that, because Canada isn't ranked as the #2 most powerful country in the world, they had no business invading the US, which is ranked #1, so they'd just have to pack their bags, go home, and maybe try again a few years down the line". What the actual gently caress?
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flashy_mcflash posted:What the actual gently caress? Everyone knows America and Canada are training partners and would never fight each other.
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PaybackJack posted:Everyone knows America and Canada are training partners and would never fight each other.
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Moose Bigelow posted:Canada I was not impressed with your performance I put Canada in my 4th tier.
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Borh posted:It's really hard to do the whole thing justice, nor would I want to, but basically they spent 20 minutes droning on and on and on, rehashing the old argument about whether or not a guy who beats a #1 contender should automatically become the #1 contender, and the validity of a rankings system in the UFC. Then, when they seemed to be finally ready to move on, Bryan comes back with this analogy: "imagine if Canada invaded the US tomorrow, and all Obama did was go on TV and calmly explain that, because Canada isn't ranked as the #2 most powerful country in the world, they had no business invading the US, which is ranked #1, so they'd just have to pack their bags, go home, and maybe try again a few years down the line". I know what I am listening to tomorrow.
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MassRayPer posted:I know what I am listening to tomorrow. Something other than this, unless you've scored some ketamine?
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PaybackJack posted:Everyone knows America and Canada are training partners and would never fight each other. Canada and America sparring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS9vdoX3Ju0 (Canada is Coleman)
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My god  Bryan was infuriating and seemed to show no awareness of how UFC is actually booked.
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LordPants posted:My god Dave: They have 3 fights where, ya know, they would very much prefer one guy to win. That's not good booking for a real sport, but that's the mentality. Bryan a week later: If one guy gets a title shot with a win the other guy should too!
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For someone whose MMA education is limited to .gif files, what's wrong with giving a shot to the guy who knocks off the number one contender?
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:For someone whose MMA education is limited to .gif files, what's wrong with giving a shot to the guy who knocks off the number one contender? Not much, really, aside from potentially less PPV $$$. UFC really wanted Cro Cop vs. Couture in '07 (almost certainly a big money match in what was then a godawful heavyweight division) before relative nobody Gabe Gonzaga ruined that.
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They both make some decent points but Todd was arguing how it is and Bryan was arguing how it should be. Todd is more concerned with having money matches with guys being fed to big names to build a money fight, while Bryan was basically saying that every fight should be of equal importance to both men (it should). Bryan just doesn't know how to articulate his position very well and I'm not sure he was even listening to what Todd was saying once Todd mentioned :sports:. maniacripper fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Dec 18, 2011 |
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Yeah Bryan's biggest problem is that even when he's right and he gets into a verbal debate he can't articulate his point at all and his metaphors are always terrible. On a similar note, I am perplexed by Bryan's story about how he was "really into video games" between 6th and 8th grades and then claims that he matured into being all about sports after that when everyone in the world knows that Bryan knows nothing about sports. I guess I'll give him gymnastics since he teaches it but come on, who's he trying to fool? I don't mind that Bryan is a dork and doesn't watch sports but pretending to be all about video games and then all about sports before launching into how super mario brothers is the greatest video game of all time was just so  on so many levels.
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So it sounds like I'm actually gonna have to listen to this Bryan/Todd exchange.
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Bryan is the king of strawman arguments. So is Dave to some extent, but I think he realizes it where Bryan just throws them out there thinking he is accurately describing their opponent's position.
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So I listened for 25 minutes before giving up and going back to watching the Broncos lose. Bryan trying to explain how the NFL works as far as "rankings" go was quite amusing, though. hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 19, 2011 |
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MassRayPer posted:Bryan is the king of strawman arguments. So is Dave to some extent, but I think he realizes it where Bryan just throws them out there thinking he is accurately describing their opponent's position. But you know what is awesome? Bryan watching a guy eat peas watching Raw.
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LordPants posted:But you know what is awesome? "Say something kid."
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triplexpac posted:The way Dave casually said that DB won the title now so they wouldn't have to have him involved in a big match at Wrestlemania made me sad It makes me worry that they'll have him lose it at the Rumble so they can have a match between him and Michael Cole at Mania. 
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Gonzo McFee posted:It makes me worry that they'll have him lose it at the Rumble so they can have a match between him and Michael Cole at Mania. This would probably be the best thing for him. He'd get way more exposure than being another guy in "multiman match for guys without strong feuds" match.
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I was just thinking about how a few months ago, Meltzer said he thought Vince only brought JR back to shut up everyone who was clamoring for his return. He'd bring back JR and make him out to be a fool until everyone gave up. Well it worked on me, because JR is gone and I've given up on the idea of bringing him back
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triplexpac posted:I was just thinking about how a few months ago, Meltzer said he thought Vince only brought JR back to shut up everyone who was clamoring for his return. He'd bring back JR and make him out to be a fool until everyone gave up. Same here. At this point I want so little for him to come back and be humiliated again that I'm happy to leave him sitting at home, tweeting angrily and consuming vats of BBQ sauce.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Same here. At this point I want so little for him to come back and be humiliated again that I'm happy to leave him sitting at home, tweeting angrily and consuming vats of BBQ sauce. Yeah, Vince's bullshit isn't funny when he doesn't suffer an equally humiliating comeuppance. I hope JR has saved up enough money to tell him to get hosed and die if he ever comes calling again.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I never thought of this, but does WWE have part ownership of the BBQ sauce company? Enough of a controlling interest that JR can't tell them to get the gently caress? I may be wrong, but I remember hearing that WWE helps JR out with distributing his product.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I never thought of this, but does WWE have part ownership of the BBQ sauce company? Enough of a controlling interest that JR can't tell them to get the gently caress? I'm guessing Vince has nothing to do with JR's BBQ, but that's just an educated guess. JR's made enough comments about Vince and WWE not promoting it as well as he'd like, include one just last night: Jim Ross posted:Wonder why someone isn't using JR's products for DiBiase tailgates? Edit: 'Nothing' meaning I don't think WWE is part owner, but JR just hammered out a deal to sell it on WWE's site.
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So it's not a licensed WWE product? I've never seen the sauce IRL but is there a WWE logo on the bottle?
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flashy_mcflash posted:So it's not a licensed WWE product? I've never seen the sauce IRL but is there a WWE logo on the bottle? Someone here bought some recently, so we just have to page whoever it was to this thread. Was it Karmine? Smashpro1?
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I bought JR's jerky (made for an easy Christmas gift for a few friends to give them some Jim Ross jerky) through the WWE website. I don't recall seeing a single WWE logo on the jerky pack itself.
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I got a bottle from Secret Xanta, there is no mention of WWE on it, no logos. Also, it says Distributed by JR's Family BBQ and has their URL. It is delicious.
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Yeah it seems really sinister how they gave him the title just to get him out of Mania. It really ties into what Meltzer said about why they give out titles based on "why they shouldn't" and Bryan getting the title just shows that they don't think there are any serious reasons why he shouldn't be champion, not that they think he's valuable. See: Swagger, Jack. & Mizanin, Michael.
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So the Briscoes are gonna be on Figure 4 Daily tomorrow. This should be some good good radio coming up if it's anything like last year's Briscoes interview.
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flashy_mcflash posted:So it's not a licensed WWE product? I've never seen the sauce IRL but is there a WWE logo on the bottle? My understanding is that JR owns the company and WWE has been the main distributor for the past few months. JR was running the mail order business out of his garage after the restaurant went down, so that's probably a major upgrade for him.
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LordPants posted:Yeah it seems really sinister how they gave him the title just to get him out of Mania. It really ties into what Meltzer said about why they give out titles based on "why they shouldn't" and Bryan getting the title just shows that they don't think there are any serious reasons why he shouldn't be champion, not that they think he's valuable. The other issue is that they haven't quite gotten to the Russo stage of 'belts are just props'. They do seem to think giving a guy the title automatically makes him matter, but they've hosed with the belts so much that that isn't the case anymore. (Not that it was ever a concrete rule anyway, Rons Garvin and Simmons, anyone?)
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Dear Dave, take a loving day off next time.quote:--Want to thank Bryan last night. We have a family emergency and my son was in ICU and needed an emergency procedure done at midnight (he's out of the hospital now and doing fine, cross your fingers) and he didn't fall asleep until shortly after that so I didn't even get home until after 1 a.m. to watch Raw and Bryan stayed until 2:30 a.m. when we finally had to do the show since it was just getting ridiculous, and I hadn't had a chance to see the last 40 minutes or so. This week's issue may be one day late. We'll see. So anyway, after seeing the whole show, I thought it was really good. From the daily update.
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