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shaitan
Mar 8, 2004
g.d.m.f.s.o.b.
I'm looking at a 2008 Street Triple that only has 700 miles on it. The owner has garaged it pretty much it's entire life so what are some things to look out for? I'm assuming that the tires are original and would need replacing at that age but what other things to look for?

If you know model specific that's awesome, I'll be posting in some of more triumph specific forums to find out what to look for too.

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Odette
Mar 19, 2011

From memory, Triumph had a bad R/R batch so it's worth asking the owner about that or grabbing serial # & checking with Triumph. I'd probably replace the R/R myself anyway.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

AhhYes posted:

What is the CA consensus on wearing earbuds while riding? I really like to do it, but I've had several people chastise me for it. I feel like they're no more dangerous than earplugs, and maybe even less so, since I can still hear the traffic with the earbuds, whereas earplugs basically eliminate all sound.

I would make sure you're not wearing them in both ears though. A lot of places will fine you heavily for having objects in both ears. Here in FL, you'll get a warning citation (I got one before I realized it was illegal) then after that it's like a $250 fine and so on and so forth...

Long story short: Ride with one earbud in, not 2 and you'll be fine.

Edit: American Motorcyclist Website - Individual State Motorcycle Laws

Apparently I was right...

quote:

Safety Helmet: Required by law; California Vehicle Code Section 27803
State Funded Rider Ed: Available for all eligible applicants - required under age 21
Eye Protection: Not Required
Daytime Use of Headlight: Required for vehicles manufactured during or after 1978. California Vehicle Code Section 25650.5
Passenger Seat: Required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Footrest: Required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Age Restriction: None
Helmet Speakers: Single earphone only

Zipperelli. fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 15, 2012

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
1 earbud? No thank you.

Unless you live in one of these lovely states, go right ahead. The people who give me flak for riding with ear buds or plugs usually back down when I tell them I can hear more with ear buds in than I can in their car with the stereo going.

http://idashmotorcycle.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/us-motorcycle-headphone-laws/

deadlinguo
Nov 17, 2004
when the revolution comes
I've never gotten pulled over on a motorcycle before. Are you required to remove your helmet?

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

deadlinguo posted:

I've never gotten pulled over on a motorcycle before. Are you required to remove your helmet?

Yes. The officer has to verify that you are in fact the same person as in the picture on your license.

"nasP' posted:

1 earbud? No thank you.

Unless you live in one of these lovely states, go right ahead. The people who give me flak for riding with ear buds or plugs usually back down when I tell them I can hear more with ear buds in than I can in their car with the stereo going.

http://idashmotorcycle.wordpress.co...headphone-laws/

That website is pretty off. There are at least 4 states that they got the headphone law wrong in. Florida being one.

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho
When I got my speeding ticket on the R1 I had earbuds in. The cop was yelling at me to keep moving when I pulled over and I couldn't hear him even on the loudspeaker. I took my helmet off and one of the buds fell out before I heard him.

In court I told the Judge that ignorance was no excuse but I wasn't aware you couldn't wear both and it wouldn't happen again. He told me in my case ignorance was an excuse and dismissed the charges. I'd rather not go through that again so now I ride with one really good earbud and an earplug. I alternate the ear on longer trips so as to not tire my ear out.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

EZipperelli posted:

Yes. The officer has to verify that you are in fact the same person as in the picture on your license.


That website is pretty off. There are at least 4 states that they got the headphone law wrong in. Florida being one.

Sorry, I forgot this is Merica. YMMV, everyone should verify their own local laws.

This site seems a bit more professional:

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/PrintLaws.html

Again, the info could all be wrong, please consult your state's laws YA drat SELF

nsaP fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Feb 15, 2012

-Inu-
Nov 11, 2008

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CUBIC CENTIMETERS

EZipperelli posted:

Yes. The officer has to verify that you are in fact the same person as in the picture on your license.

quote:

Georgia

All In-Helmet Audio prohibited except headsets used for communication purposes only
I've been pulled over 4 or 5 times and every time I've had earbuds in. Never had a cop say anything about them to me. Never been asked to remove my helmet either. Lucky me I guess.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Got pulled over in the car with iPhone headset on. I was on the phone, but was told that I wasn't allowed to have both earbuds in. $169 ticket for that, which I fought by declaration. In the letter, I pointed out that the iPhone ear buds are vented which allows for hearing of emergency vehicles and traffic around you while still providing a clear conversation with both earbuds in :science:

I got it dismissed.. Gotta love being able to BS well.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Ponies ate my Bagel posted:

He told me in my case ignorance was an excuse and dismissed the charges.

The judge must be a goon.

lowcrabdiet
Jun 28, 2004
I'm not Steve Nash.
College Slice

-Inu- posted:

I've been pulled over 4 or 5 times and every time I've had earbuds in. Never had a cop say anything about them to me. Never been asked to remove my helmet either. Lucky me I guess.

I got pulled over once and didn't have to take my helmet off either. My phone is in the same pocket as my wallet so I just quickly unplugged the headphones while getting my wallet out so I could hear the officer. You could also probably say that you were using your earbuds solely to block out noise, not to listen to music or anything.

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho

Olde Weird Tip posted:

The judge must be a goon.

Lets just say I work at the court and leave it at that.

shaitan
Mar 8, 2004
g.d.m.f.s.o.b.

Odette posted:

From memory, Triumph had a bad R/R batch so it's worth asking the owner about that or grabbing serial # & checking with Triumph. I'd probably replace the R/R myself anyway.

Ok yeah I'm reading about that now, that's not a big deal afaik but something to look out and replace if something looks bad.

What about anything normal to look at for bikes that have spent most of their life sitting around?

Odette
Mar 19, 2011

shaitan posted:

Ok yeah I'm reading about that now, that's not a big deal afaik but something to look out and replace if something looks bad.

What about anything normal to look at for bikes that have spent most of their life sitting around?

Z3n can probably jump in here with more specific info, but generally if a bike's been sitting around for a long time ... all the fluids need to be replaced. Other than that, not much else to look at?

shaitan
Mar 8, 2004
g.d.m.f.s.o.b.

Odette posted:

Z3n can probably jump in here with more specific info, but generally if a bike's been sitting around for a long time ... all the fluids need to be replaced. Other than that, not much else to look at?

That's pretty much what I was thinking as well. Thanks! I talked the guy down to 5500 which is a steal around here. Most triples are going for 6-7k with 5-10k miles on them

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Fluids and tires and you should be good. That's a good deal.

_Dav
Dec 24, 2008

shaitan posted:

Ok yeah I'm reading about that now, that's not a big deal afaik but something to look out and replace if something looks bad.

What about anything normal to look at for bikes that have spent most of their life sitting around?

Take a peek around the Triumph RAT forums, subsections for all their bikes with fairly honest accounts of shortfalls and things to look out for.

Odette
Mar 19, 2011

All this striple talk has got me looking on the local auction sites ... sadly, there's only like 10 in the whole country up for sale and they're all priced at/near RRP. :smith:

grnberet2b
Aug 12, 2008
So I was riding my bike (2005 Suzuki Boulevard S40 nearing 6k miles) normally at approx 75 mph headed home, the engine started slowing down pretty drastically, wouldn't speed up no matter how much gas I gave it, etc. Once it got down to 55, I decided I was going to have to stop it and see what was up. Turned on my hazards, pulled off to the shoulder, started braking, then pulled in the clutch and the engine immediately died. No matter what I did, I could not get it running again, and had to tow it home.

I currently have the gas tank off and have pulled the plug to check it (looks OK to me).

Things to note:
  • There was a small amount of white smoke coming from the area around the engine when I stopped.
  • The oil tank (pan?) was empty (found the source of the leak, a bolt on the intake valve inspection cover was loose, so there wasn't a good seal)
  • The engine is not seized (put it in 5th and was able to turn it)
  • I have never worked on a motorcycle before beyond changing the oil

Where the gently caress do I start looking for an issue? Is it possible the lack of oil is a red herring and the carb is clogged? If so, a link to a decent write up on how to clean a carb would be helpful.

I should also say that I don't have the money to take it to a mechanic...

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Doooooon't turn the engine over any more before you get the leak fixed and full of oil. It sounds like a soft seize, which means that, while the engine didn't actually seize up, it did run out of oil and things hit things that they should never hit.

I could be (and am often) wrong, but the fact that it was out of oil is very telling. Since that is a big single, there are many highly-stressed bearings that absolutely cannot handle a loss of oil, and will tear themselves up. If that happened to me, I'd already be purchasing crank bearings and a sized-up piston and rings, but I'm crazy like that.

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Feb 16, 2012

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




If you ran it with the oil tank/pan empty, you probably seized it. Seizing an engine doesnt mean that it seizes and stays seized, soft seizes will let the engine roll over once they cool down, even for a few seconds. You can also have bearing seizes and stuf like that, that make for much less of an obvious seize.

Seriously, if you ran the engine with no oil, its guaranteed to be the source of your issue.

grnberet2b
Aug 12, 2008

Geirskogul posted:

Doooooon't turn the engine over any more before you get the leak fixed and full of oil. It sounds like a soft seize, which means that, while the engine didn't actually seize up, it did run out of oil and things hit things that they should never hit.

I could be (and am often) wrong, but the fact that it was out of oil is very telling. Since that is a big single, there are many highly-stressed bearings that absolutely cannot handle a loss of oil, and will tear themselves up. If that happened to me, I'd already be purchasing crank bearings and a sized-up piston and rings, but I'm crazy like that.

Fair enough, I certainly haven't tried to turn the engine over since deciding it wasn't going to start for me on the side of the highway. With something like this, is it "fill it up with oil, replace the plug, and try again", or "tear the engine apart and look for damage all the way down".

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

grnberet2b posted:

Fair enough, I certainly haven't tried to turn the engine over since deciding it wasn't going to start for me on the side of the highway. With something like this, is it "fill it up with oil, replace the plug, and try again", or "tear the engine apart and look for damage all the way down".

The more reasonable option is to buy a replacement engine and then sell the sidecovers/salvagable parts/etc off the old engine.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




grnberet2b posted:

Fair enough, I certainly haven't tried to turn the engine over since deciding it wasn't going to start for me on the side of the highway. With something like this, is it "fill it up with oil, replace the plug, and try again", or "tear the engine apart and look for damage all the way down".

The second option

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho
Is there any chance someone could point me to a guide or something for tuning the DRZ suspension? I've been searching the web for a little while and haven't come up with any information for someone my weight on an SM. I'm about 200 lbs without gear and probably 210-215 with it. Eventually I'll have the forks and rear shock resprung for my weight but for now I'm just trying to get it set up as best I can.

Anyone going to be on the central coast of CA this weekend? I'm going to be riding some street most likely. The bike has Bridgestone Bt003's on it and I'm a little weary about taking those on the dirt.

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost

Ponies ate my Bagel posted:

Is there any chance someone could point me to a guide or something for tuning the DRZ suspension? I've been searching the web for a little while and haven't come up with any information for someone my weight on an SM. I'm about 200 lbs without gear and probably 210-215 with it. Eventually I'll have the forks and rear shock resprung for my weight but for now I'm just trying to get it set up as best I can.

Anyone going to be on the central coast of CA this weekend? I'm going to be riding some street most likely. The bike has Bridgestone Bt003's on it and I'm a little weary about taking those on the dirt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_70YesH_87w is an ok guide, have a look on http://drz400uk.org/ too there are loads of thread about swapping the rear spring and settin gup the bike.

edit, i ride a mile or so of a gravel road every day on a pretty bald set of dunlops, you should be fine on dirt/gravel with the bridgestones as long as its not mucky, just expect the bike to be wiggling under you

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
I'm gonna paint the Ulysses. Before I drop some bones on a colorrite order, are there any other paint brands that go recommended? General advice or recommended articles?

FWIW, the plan is an olive green that I can buff shiny. Here's what I'm thinking, not a huge job:

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

clutchpuck posted:

I'm gonna paint the Ulysses. Before I drop some bones on a colorrite order, are there any other paint brands that go recommended? General advice or recommended articles?

FWIW, the plan is an olive green that I can buff shiny. Here's what I'm thinking, not a huge job:



I've heard you can get automotive paints in a spray can from some professional paint places...that's what I'd try. Colorite is really good but also stupid expensive, and not worth it unless you're trying to match a stock color.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
I'm having a shudder on the front end when emergency braking and I'm wondering where to start to hunt down why. I got Pilot Road 3s for my FZ6 last fall and promptly low sided my bike the first backroad trip I took. Before the tires/crash I don't remember a problem. I went to a parking lot yesterday to do some drills and that's when I first noticed this. I'll try to get a bit of video of it, but it's nothing too spectacular. I just am going progressively harder on the brakes, and as it gets slower the front just shudders.

At first I wanted to blame the tires with their odd rain lines cut out of them, but I'm guessing my layer dan probably had more to do with it.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker
Do you feel the shudder through the lever or handlebars?

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Wheel and steering head bearings, front axle straightness, and if you've got floating rotors check the buttons?

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Z3n posted:

I've heard you can get automotive paints in a spray can from some professional paint places...that's what I'd try. Colorite is really good but also stupid expensive, and not worth it unless you're trying to match a stock color.

I've talked with a few auto body specialists and one guy who specializes in rebuilding motorcycles. Rattle-can=no good. Your best bet is to get a gun from harbor freight, generic color, and a good automotive topcoat. Rent the compressor from autozone, home depot, etc, then build a paint booth from a wardrobe box from u-haul.

The color is not so important, but the topcoat is. Apparently, most rattle-can topcoats aren't gasoline-safe, but don't say so. $12/can stuff probably is, but still no guarantees.

The harbor freight gun isn't super awesome, but it's good enough to learn on and do a couple of tanks. Buy a gallon of paint thinner while you're at harbor freight; it'll help you get your hand waving technique down. A pint of paint (usually the smallest order) will do two tanks, or a tank, a frame, and some bits.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

I've talked with a few auto body specialists and one guy who specializes in rebuilding motorcycles. Rattle-can=no good. Your best bet is to get a gun from harbor freight, generic color, and a good automotive topcoat. Rent the compressor from autozone, home depot, etc, then build a paint booth from a wardrobe box from u-haul.

The color is not so important, but the topcoat is. Apparently, most rattle-can topcoats aren't gasoline-safe, but don't say so. $12/can stuff probably is, but still no guarantees.

The harbor freight gun isn't super awesome, but it's good enough to learn on and do a couple of tanks. Buy a gallon of paint thinner while you're at harbor freight; it'll help you get your hand waving technique down. A pint of paint (usually the smallest order) will do two tanks, or a tank, a frame, and some bits.

Eh, I'd rather do something like this:
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264901

I've seen really good results out of rattle can. I've also seen some really lovely results, so I think it's more about how you do it than anything else. The paint might atomize a bit better out of the HF gun but in the end that's only one factor out of many that makes a good paint job.

Of course auto body guys and professional rebuilders are going to say that rattle cans are crap...they can also see poo poo in a paintjob that no one but a specialist will be able to see. If you're just looking to do a basic "let's see how this looks", just rattle can with some good paint. If you want it done right, send it to a professional with real equipment.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

This was all done with rattlecans in my buddy's garage. I'll try to find a picture of it post-op.



Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho
Did DRZ's come stock with a Renthal bar? Mine has a Fatboy bar and I don't know if it was stock or if it was added on by the PO.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

A friend restored an old suzuki intruder and redid the tank and did it spraybombs with paint mixed at the paint supplier. Did several coats, clear, wetsand, more clear, stuck it in his oven, drat thing looked pro.

I guess you have more control over the mix and flo with a true airgun, but it looked fantastic.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



A Uly would probably look pretty good "painted" in bedliner.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Ponies ate my Bagel posted:

Did DRZ's come stock with a Renthal bar? Mine has a Fatboy bar and I don't know if it was stock or if it was added on by the PO.

What year? The later ones came with Renthal FatBars

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BlackLaser
Dec 2, 2005

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

I've talked with a few auto body specialists and one guy who specializes in rebuilding motorcycles. Rattle-can=no good. Your best bet is to get a gun from harbor freight, generic color, and a good automotive topcoat. Rent the compressor from autozone, home depot, etc, then build a paint booth from a wardrobe box from u-haul.

The color is not so important, but the topcoat is. Apparently, most rattle-can topcoats aren't gasoline-safe, but don't say so. $12/can stuff probably is, but still no guarantees.

The harbor freight gun isn't super awesome, but it's good enough to learn on and do a couple of tanks. Buy a gallon of paint thinner while you're at harbor freight; it'll help you get your hand waving technique down. A pint of paint (usually the smallest order) will do two tanks, or a tank, a frame, and some bits.

I was just reading about Spraymax 2K paint for my bike. Clear is gas safe. Might be worth a look. There's a button you hit on the bottom that mixes the hardener and paint, then you have about 48 hours to use it.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0

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