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kiimo posted:I have bad news for you in regards to "artistic endeavors" vs. "movie marketing" There's plenty of examples of movie posters that manage to achieve both those goals. Just because there's a distinction doesn't mean we can't call out lazy crap when we see it and laud the well done ones when we see those. Dissapointed Owl fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:There's plenty of examples of movies that manage to achieve both those goals. Just because there's a distinction doesn't mean we can't call out lazy crap when we see it. That's totally fine, and most of the creatives at least on the major studio side try their very best to generate quality. But the question was why when you have a perfectly good cover would you make a new one, I'm just trying to answer that question. Dissapointed Owl posted:Opinions about the cover itself aside, I think I can blame the actual publisher (ie Warner Bros.) for the cover with which they release their movie, thanks. Let's not confuse publisher and distributor. Like I said I don't know for sure who did this but this is an MGM library film distributed by WB. Usually that means the studio who owns the film would determine their own marketing strategy, all WB would do is send it through their established channels to physically get the disc over-seas. But like I said I don't know for sure because MGM might have fired everybody capable of creating a cover at this point, they've practically fired everybody else. kiimo fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 20:17
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Speaking of which, I really like this
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kiimo posted:That's totally fine, and most of the creatives at least on the major studio side try their very best to generate quality. But the question was why when you have a perfectly good cover would you make a new one, I'm just trying to answer that question. Well, that would mean I jumped the gun and came across like a jerk. So. Yeah. 
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Feb 16, 2012 20:21
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Well, that would mean I jumped the gun and came across like a jerk. So. Yeah. Not at all, hope I didn't. Incidentally, I was just thinking how people in advertising might convince themselves that what they are creating is art. It occurred to me what Vincent Van Gogh might think if he was alive and saw that Midnight in Paris poster. I'm thinking suicide bombing.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:28
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kiimo posted:Not at all, hope I didn't. "Oh thank god thank god does this mean I'll get money for food so I don't starve to death???" Is more what I'm thinking.
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kiimo posted:Not at all, hope I didn't. He'll probably throw his ear at it and shoot himself in the chest.
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TheJoker138 posted:"Oh thank god thank god does this mean I'll get money for food so I don't starve to death???" Is more what I'm thinking. This is probably accurate.
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kiimo posted:This is probably accurate. But mine had a much funnier mental image Topical: 
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Feb 16, 2012 20:32
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TheJoker138 posted:"Oh thank god thank god does this mean I'll get money for food so I don't starve to death???" Is more what I'm thinking. All I can ever think of when I see that painting is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSGr7RwXL6U#t=4m4s
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Feb 16, 2012 21:12
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kiimo posted:Not at all, hope I didn't. He'd wonder why he isn't in the movie that his art is selling.
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General Ironicus posted:He'd wonder why he isn't in the movie that his art is selling. Casting director: "Sorry, kid, we got no roles for people missing an ear. Go check that Tarantino film that's casting a couple doors down."
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Feb 16, 2012 21:19
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Dissapointed Owl posted:But mine had a much funnier mental image I like this poster a lot (but hate the insert caption which looks really out of place). Tiptoes was mentioned a page back and if anyone is interested in the fascinating trainwreck that that film was, they should read this.
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kiimo posted:Not at all, hope I didn't. Given that he was pretty desperate for recognition and killed himself, in part, out of guilt at making his brother look like a fool for supporting art that wasn't selling, probably pretty happy.
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Feb 16, 2012 23:11
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This is just so bad. Lens flare and gradient overlay GALORE!
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Feb 16, 2012 23:53
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I was looking through a listing of DVD and Blu-Rays that were coming out in the next few weeks, and two covers really struck me as being particularly awful. 
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Feb 16, 2012 23:54
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Jon Voight in "Ideal Nazi Prototype".
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Feb 16, 2012 23:55
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Alternatively: Jon Voight in "Wow, Peter Weller Got Kinda Fat"
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Feb 17, 2012 00:06
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Jon Voight IS..... a film projector screen
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Robert Denby posted:I was looking through a listing of DVD and Blu-Rays that were coming out in the next few weeks, and two covers really struck me as being particularly awful. I am seeing a bunch of Judi Dench in that face.
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Sgt_Grumbles posted:This is just so bad. Lens flare and gradient overlay GALORE! How is he even holding that gun?
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Pigeon Shamus posted:How is he even holding that gun? Very reluctantly.
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Sgt_Grumbles posted:This is just so bad. Lens flare and gradient overlay GALORE! I know that generic action heroes are pretty samey and tend to smear together in their blandness, but did anyone else think that this was Marky Mark and not Guy Pearce? Also, Guy Pearce what happened to you? You were great in LA Confidential and Memento 
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Pigeon Shamus posted:How is he even holding that gun? It looks like he's shooting through his gas tube and not the barrel.
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Young Freud posted:It looks like he's shooting through his gas tube and not the barrel. It's a gun from The Future! Don't you see the kicking rad leds?
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GrandpaPants posted:Also, Guy Pearce what happened to you? You were great in LA Confidential and Memento Didn't he turn down a role in Batman Begins and then do an interview saying he thought comic book movies were ridiculous and stupid? I know for sure at least the second part of that is true, but I don't remember if it was ever confirmed he was offered a BB role, or just heavily rumored.
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Feb 17, 2012 00:49
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He's just sitting by his phone, waiting to hear from someone about a sequel to The Time Machine.
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GrandpaPants posted:I know that generic action heroes are pretty samey and tend to smear together in their blandness, but did anyone else think that this was Marky Mark and not Guy Pearce? Lockout looks fun as hell though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAEzDJXKQTE It's Escape From New York/LA, but in Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!
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Dissapointed Owl posted:No, you're right Warner Brothers. That's way too classy. I have always wondered, is there a real reason studios use cheap looking covers for their dvd covers? The only reason that i can think of is that they would have to pay a royalty to the poster artist each time it's used and that's why they go for cheaper covers.
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GrandpaPants posted:Also, Guy Pearce what happened to you? You were great in LA Confidential and Memento Also The Proposition, though that was still years ago. Legion of One posted:I have always wondered, is there a real reason studios use cheap looking covers for their dvd covers? With a poster you're building long-term awareness and trying to create an audience and convince people why they should care that your film exists, whereas with a DVD you're trying to connect to shoppers and explain why they should spend money. A poster is much more about building critical buzz, getting people to anticipate the film, and trying to get across tones and themes so that your movie is cemented in the public consciousness before it opens. A DVD cover is about making it move off of store shelves quickly to people who might not otherwise be interested in or aware of it, so DVD covers go less for "here is how this movie will make you feel" and more for "here are the people that are in the movie, also horses/guns/explosion/sex." That's why even films with fairly abstract or understated posters will generally put the leading stars front and center on the DVD cover.
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The Triumphant posted:Also The Proposition, though that was still years ago. You are also competing with another dozen or more DVDs in the same shelves, so the flashiest the better. It's all about selling, now, and as much as possible. Edit: Look what I found. "The movie the Vatican doesn't want you to see." 
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Feb 17, 2012 03:22
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Guy Pearce was in the Best Picture last year, just saying.
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kiimo posted:Guy Pearce was in the Best Picture last year, just saying.
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kiimo posted:Guy Pearce was in the Best Picture last year, just saying. He was also in Animal Kingdom last year and that movie loving ruled.
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Eh! Frank posted:Last two years, actually (although he dies in the first five minutes in one of them). Plus, he shows up in The Road.
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Young Freud posted:Plus, he shows up in The Road. And he's in friggin Prometheus so I think it's safe to say reports of his career's death have been greatly exaggerated.
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Look at it this way: If you had the opportunity to be in a Luc Besson sci-fi movie and hang out with Peter Stormare, would you say no?
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And a spiritual sequel to Escape From New York playing the Snake Plissken character at that.
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Guy Pearce has apparently been doing a lot of theater in recent years, as well. Still, I'd like to see him in more leading roles, he's very watchable.
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I saw him a while ago in an Adam Sandler movie called Bedtime Stories. Even in that Pearce is fun to watch.
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