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kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Penguissimo posted:

If you're anywhere near a Costco, you might want to check them out too. I believe they charge around the same amount as Amazon, but they usually have a deal going where you get some free accessories too (including an extended battery if I remember correctly?). Only catch it that they won't see the early upgrade either, but it sounds like you don't particularly mind waiting.

I got my GNex for $219 with a mail in rebate for a free extended battery, so yeah. Do that. It rules.

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Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006
I doubt Costco can see the early upgrade either, I don't know though.

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.
So I've been using my GNex for it's first full day and I'm concerned with the signal. I left it sitting after a call, came back, and it was killing the battery searching for a signal until I moved to a different room. At that point Cell Standby was 22%. Now it's at 14% and battery's at 35% after 8h 36m. I even leave wifi on at home. Is it just the poor performance of 4.0.2 and when I put 4.0.4 it'll be fine, or do I have a bum unit?

I picked it up at Costco, which is a great deal. $219 for the phone, accessory bundle (useless outside of the car/home charger), and extended battery by mail. It was interesting that I paid for the phone, then brought it back to the kiosk to get it activated. I also didn't sign the contract until that point. They also stamped my receipt, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to pay for, then leave without actually getting tied to the two year contract.

JerleMinara
Jan 22, 2011

WeaselWeaz posted:

They also stamped my receipt, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to pay for, then leave without actually getting tied to the two year contract.

A supervisor actually escorted me to the wireless kiosk so it definitely wouldn't have worked where I live.

tronik
Oct 21, 2008

Here is my tale of purchasing a new phone today.

My renewal date is in April and I've been craving either a GNex or Droid RAZR for a couple of weeks. Per advice of some of the folks in this thread I made my way to Costco to check out their deals. Sure enough they had the GNex for $219 and the RAZR for $179 with an extra battery, case and screen protector included. After bringing up my account the lady mentioned that since my upgrade date was not for another two months she could not get me the upgrade price. They also can't push through early upgrades like VZW can so I was SOL there.

Leaving somewhat defeated, I decided to bop over to the VZW corp store down the road for the hell of it. Their GNex price with renewal was $299 but they had the Droid RAZR Maxx available for the same price. While I was enamored with the GNex's huge screen, the RAZR Maxx's form factor, signal strength, and battery life ended up selling me on it. As an added bonus I also got $50 off the price of the phone thanks to a corporate discount from a previous employer. I get my phone in two days, which happens to be my birthday!

tl;dr Landed a Droid RAZR Maxxxxxxxx for $250 (w/ 2-year) at VZW corp store thanks to corporate discount! Costco will not sell you an upgrade-priced phone before your renewal date.

ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE
Amazon wireless has the Galaxy Nexus for 99.99$ for new lines again. Not sure if this is news or not, but I had bought it at 99 a month ago, and the price went back up a few days after.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)
What's the current dumbphone recommendation?

Ryokurin
Jul 14, 2001

Wanna Die?

Don Lapre posted:

AT&T's hspa+ has lots of potential bandwidth but i havn't seen anyone actually get more than they did with their 7.2mbps network.

AT&T runs QoS on their network, and officially, although it's hard to find on their site, they promise 6mbps on their HSPA+ network. It used to be that you could take your sim and put it into a unlocked phone and you could see better performance, like 10-20mbps depending on the time of day as long as you configured your phone for the right network, but probably around a year ago they limit you to what your sim was profiled for, even if you configured it right. This explains why some reviews a few months ago was saying they couldn't get more than around 3mps because their sim originally came from a 1st gen 3g phone. You have to call and ask for a hspa+ plan to get full speed (which again is 6)

ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE
I got 37Mbps speed testing LTE in Boston. Using the speedtest app on my Gnex. Is this right?


"Date ConnType Lat Lon Download Upload Latency ServerName InternalIp ExternalIp
2/1/2012 10:04 Lte 42.4892 -71.1706 37230 9981 59 Manchester, NH 10.165.240.59 166.248.8.108"

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
I got 27Mbps while waiting for my luggage at the airport in Phoenix (bottom floor, surrounded by concrete), so it doesn't seem too outlandish.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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duffmensch posted:

I got 27Mbps while waiting for my luggage at the airport in Phoenix (bottom floor, surrounded by concrete), so it doesn't seem too outlandish.

It's likely a busy airport will have microcells installed.

The highest I've gotten in Wichita is 20Mbps and it's usually around 15. Still about 10 times as fast as 3G is here so I'm not complaining.

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
I went back and checked and it turns out it was 24Mbps and not 27Mbps, which is still great. Now I just need them to light up LTE in my area outside of Phoenix so that I can put my 4G radio to good use. :sigh:

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


ease posted:

I got 37Mbps speed testing LTE in Boston. Using the speedtest app on my Gnex. Is this right?


"Date ConnType Lat Lon Download Upload Latency ServerName InternalIp ExternalIp
2/1/2012 10:04 Lte 42.4892 -71.1706 37230 9981 59 Manchester, NH 10.165.240.59 166.248.8.108"

If it's pretty new, and there aren't a lot of LTE phones on the network yet, then it's perfectly reasonable, particularly if you were in close proximity to a tower.

As saturation has increased around work (Ann Arbor has had LTE up and running since April-ish last year), my available speeds have slowly (but steadily) dropped. I peaked out at an average of about 24Mbit when I first got the phone, and I'm averaging about 18 these days.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I've been able to get 35mbps near my house somewhat consistently.

Right now, in my office, I'm only pulling down around 8mbps. However, this area isn't well covered and I would usually be around 600kbps on EVDO.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)

bull3964 posted:

around 600kbps on EVDO.

Is this a number that's close to normal? All around Tallahassee I've been getting 5-50kbps on my Droid Incredible.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

Is this a number that's close to normal? All around Tallahassee I've been getting 5-50kbps on my Droid Incredible.

Yeah that's...insanely low...

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Yeah that's...insanely low...

Yeah, at my house I could get around 2.4Mbps on EVDO.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)
If that's the case I might need to reconsider not wanting an iphone solely because of a lack of 4G :v:

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Guys, don't forget that network speeds are measured in megaBITs, not megaBYTES. You can divide the former by roughly 10* to get the latter, and the latter is usually what your computer and/or phone reports when downloading a file. bull's EVDO figure up there translates to about 240 KBps, meaning a 2.4 MB file would take ten seconds to download, not one second. Impressive for EVDO, but not the DSL-busting speeds that 2.4 MBps would represent.

* yes I know there are 8 bits in a byte not 10, but network overhead blah blah blah

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...
Jersey Shore people - 4G is now in Monmouth County east of the Parkway. Was at work in Neptune and saw 4G - speeds are 10 mbps on the downlink, 2ish on the uplink. Saw reports of 4G in Eatontown as well - I didn't lose 4G till I got to Freehold on 33.

Hopefully they will move west towards Allentown/Millstone where I live, but I'm happy to have it at work for now.

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.
I thought I'd give you guys a heads up. VZW.com (and only the website) put the Rezound and Spectrum onsale for $100 on contract. Sale applies to upgrades and new's. The website claims the sale will last until 2/28. I guess the buyers' preferences for the Nexus and both Razrs means VzW wants to move some other inventory. The online only sale is also in the same ballpark with Amazon and Best Buy.

Tensokuu
May 21, 2010

Somehow, the boy just isn't very buoyant.

WeaselWeaz posted:

So I've been using my GNex for it's first full day and I'm concerned with the signal. I left it sitting after a call, came back, and it was killing the battery searching for a signal until I moved to a different room. At that point Cell Standby was 22%. Now it's at 14% and battery's at 35% after 8h 36m. I even leave wifi on at home. Is it just the poor performance of 4.0.2 and when I put 4.0.4 it'll be fine, or do I have a bum unit?

Would like to say that I had pretty much the same thing happen with mine. I'm taking it back tomorrow to swap units out. At first they thought it was a corrupt SIM card, but the weird thing was that while I was in the store the entire thing worked just fine. The moment I drove a few miles away I got into a Network Connect/Disconnect loop and watched the battery spiral out of control until the unit was dead (would have taken it back but had to head to work). Gonna just chock it up to a bad unit.

Was more frustrating when I was sitting next to my father and his RAZR MAXX was getting full reception and working just fine, and my GNex had no service at all. I am glad to see that my first experience with Verizon support has been them bending over backwards to try and get things fixed though -- hopefully this isn't just because we're new clients.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Anyone by chance lose data altogether in/around Dallas?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I had all the same signal issues with my Galaxy Nexus and flashing to 4.0.4 has resolved them all.

It's insanity that they are taking so long to release this update because it's like a whole new phone afterward.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)
If I have the Asurion insurance on a Droid Incredible what phone should I expect as a replacement?

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

LaptopGun posted:

I guess the buyers' preferences for the Nexus and both Razrs means VzW wants to move some other inventory.

Hate to break it to you and a LOT of other people I see posting on the internet..

The Nexus is not selling well at all. The general public couldn't give a poo poo about it.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

If I have the Asurion insurance on a Droid Incredible what phone should I expect as a replacement?

Another Incredible. This was a VERY popular model and parts are plentiful.

At best, a Dinc 2.

At $100 right now the Spectrum is a really good buy for the tech-savy. It's just been rooted, so once the crapware is frozen and a non crap launcher is on it, it's a really nice phone. The Display is fantastic, IMHO better than the nexus.

Mighty Horse fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Feb 22, 2012

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

bull3964 posted:

I had all the same signal issues with my Galaxy Nexus and flashing to 4.0.4 has resolved them all.

I flashed 4.0.4 with the radio. Currently sitting at 90% after 48m, and time without a signal is 59%. Which is less than the 80% 20 minutes ago, but this thing shouldn't be sold if it's that bad. Guess I need to return this to stock and exchange. Open Signal claims I have -45 dBm, but Settings claims -100 dBm.

I never thought I'd start feeling positive about my Thunderbolt compared to a Nexus.

WeaselWeaz fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Feb 22, 2012

Rye Bread
Nov 8, 2005
:razz:

Kyrosiris posted:

Anyone by chance lose data altogether in/around Dallas?

I lost all data on my GNex, but my Droid 2 is working fine. NYC.

Radio Nowhere
Jan 8, 2010
4G is still up around me in Frederick, MD but is running like garbage, download speed pretty much non-existant on my Tbolt. Many phone reboots and nada. I flipped to 3G though and everything is good there.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006
My data was not there when I woke up for work, its back now but I'm not sure if 4G is up or not.

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

Radio Nowhere posted:

4G is still up around me in Frederick, MD but is running like garbage, download speed pretty much non-existant on my Tbolt. Many phone reboots and nada. I flipped to 3G though and everything is good there.

And of course I read this after I'm done going back to stock and locked. Oh well, still may as well exchange it.

WeaselWeaz fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Feb 22, 2012

Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater
Maybe I'm a big ol' idiot, but what's the deal with 4.0.4? I thought half the point of a GNex was getting updates from google without waiting for carriers, but it sounds like that's not the case?

KamikazeJim
Sep 15, 2006

oh fuck are you seeing this bomb man. ARE YOU SEEING THIS?

Rye Bread posted:

I lost all data on my GNex, but my Droid 2 is working fine. NYC.

Same here, with my Droid RAZR, no LTE in NYC. I just flipped it to CDMA only and I think it's working, so it might be some issues with LTE again.

Jake Gittes
Jul 11, 2006

me irl

KamikazeJim posted:

Same here, with my Droid RAZR, no LTE in NYC. I just flipped it to CDMA only and I think it's working, so it might be some issues with LTE again.

No LTE in the Houston area this morning.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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Jake Gittes posted:

No LTE in the Houston area this morning.

Mine's been going up and down in Wichita, must be a problem everywhere.

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
No LTE, very very spotty 3G in CT. I guess at least there hasn't been an outage for awhile? It seems like there was one or two every month in the fall.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Yeah, if I switch my D4 to CDMA/LTE, I lose all signal whatsoever, but switching it to CDMA only gives me workable 3G. :ms:

ModestMuse
Jun 25, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your GPS
I'd be a heavenly person today

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Mine's been going up and down in Wichita, must be a problem everywhere.

but... you are currently on probation... :wtc:

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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ModestMuse posted:

but... you are currently on probation... :wtc:

SWSP undid it or something.

Here's a couple of articles about the LTE outage. I guess the last couple of times they had it cleared up within a few hours.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/verizon-4g-lte-outage-hitting-parts-of-the-us/
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/carriers/verizon-experiencing-another-nationwide-4g-lte-outage/

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Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
Sounds like a good opportunity to call in and bitch until I get a credit.

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