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If anything, my preference in regards to the perceived skill level and production in metal seems to be devolving. The dirtier and sloppier it gets, the better it is.
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Someone posted this in the Youtube thread in GBS. Thought you guys might enjoy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8
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henpod posted:Someone posted this in the Youtube thread in GBS. Thought you guys might enjoy it. No, no we don't enjoy it.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 15:04 |
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Bagsack posted:That guy's videos are hilarious! His Radio Disney version of Messugah's Bleed Is really pretty impressive. henpod posted:Someone posted this in the Youtube thread in GBS. Thought you guys might enjoy it. Speaking of Japanese stuff though, anyone here know of Sex Machineguns? Personally, I think they're pretty loving boss.
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Nordick posted:Speaking of Japanese stuff though, anyone here know of Sex Machineguns? Personally, I think they're pretty loving boss. I used to love Sex Machineguns as a kid. All I really listened to was Japanese metal for a good while so I was exposed to all of that before really anything else. I haven't kept up with them really but they had some great albums.
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henpod posted:Someone posted this in the Youtube thread in GBS. Thought you guys might enjoy it. My head. It Hurts.
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MrBling posted:If anything, my preference in regards to the perceived skill level and production in metal seems to be devolving. The dirtier and sloppier it gets, the better it is. This is exactly what has been happening to me. Even with bands that I know who like to have crisp and clean production, it kind of grates on my nerves, especially with a lot of technical death metal bands. I love hearing the imperfections of it all, because it makes it sound real, if that makes any sense. Embracing the muddiness and mistakes, I really enjoy that. A lot of tech-death bands get on my nerves because they think that showing off their stellar musicianship is a good substitute for actual song-writing, which it isn't. I liked the new Spawn of Possession album, but at times it got to be a bit too much, particularly in the second-half of the album (although "Apparition" is a loving great song). Just look at Viraemia as an example. They play their instruments very well, there's no doubt about it. But, all they do are sweeping scales for much of the song. That is not good song-writing. It is ham-fisted and lazy, even if it can make a mockery of what normal human beings are capable of. A band like Origin love to play scales, but they also know how to make interesting songs on-top of the stellar musicianship, which someone here already mentioned their song "Aftermath" off of "Antithesis" which is a perfect example of how to do it right. Hell, Origin doesn't even like to use crisp and clean production a lot of the time. It's cleaner than most death metal, but it still has a raw emotion to it, which gets lost in translation with a lot of tech-death bands. I can appreciate people liking a lot of tech-death just for the way they can handle their instruments, but there has to be more to it, otherwise it just feels shallow.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 18:29 |
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I'm in agreement for the most part about this. I simply don't enjoy tech death anymore except for Gorguts and Spawn of Possession. Anything else just comes off inferior or just excess. Hell, even death metal itself I hardly ever listen to now except for the more raw dirty bands like the old school Swedish and Florida stuff, and the recent atmospheric blackened bands like Portal. The thing is Portal themselves are extremely technical but it works so beautifully in that lovecraftian grotesque elder evil horror about to be unleashed kind of way.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 18:40 |
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henpod posted:Someone posted this in the Youtube thread in GBS. Thought you guys might enjoy it. The only way this could be any shittier would be if we all understood Japanese. I just imagine they're singing about the cheesiest stuff in the world. I couldn't go on when they did that double horns-up close in shot... edit: Speaking of Jap. Metal, I'm still so loving hooked on Dir En Grey's Dum Spiro Spero. Definitely my favorite album of 2011. Bagsack fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Mar 10, 2012 |
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Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of Terror Squad, but someone mentions loving Dir en Grey? Goons.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 19:23 |
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Weaponized Cum posted:Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of Terror Squad, but someone mentions loving Dir en Grey? Goons. Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of X Japan? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUsAmb15njo&t=1m22s (skipped slow intro) The only japanese metal that matters.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 19:44 |
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I saw the Iced Earth/Symphony X North American tour last night. It was awesome. Looks like Russel Allen lost about 20 pounds and gained a bunch of muscle mass. He was amazing. Also, I like Stu Block a lot more than I ever did Barlow.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 19:59 |
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If you like sloppy and dirty tech death you might enjoy Sleep Terror. It's maybe not the sloppiest or the dirtiest but its loving good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ERHU7vBSAo&hd=1
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Bagsack posted:edit: Speaking of Jap. Metal, I'm still so loving hooked on Dir En Grey's Dum Spiro Spero. Definitely my favorite album of 2011. I'm a huge Dir en grey honestly, and I loved Dum Spiro Spero but it could have done with a few less songs. It starts getting a bit samey by the end, though does finish strong. Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of X Japan? Love X-Japan. When you mentioned you skipped the intro I just knew it was Kurenai too, haha. Amazing song. Weaponized Cum posted:Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of Terror Squad, but someone mentions loving Dir en Grey? Goons. Terror Squad are great too. I still haven't listened to Chaosdragon Rising though. I should get on that...
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Weaponized Cum posted:Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of Terror Squad, I just listened to Terror Squad for the first time and this completely sold me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbCMNb-ew7I&t=2m50s ...what language is that even in?
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 20:48 |
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Bagsack posted:I just listened to Terror Squad for the first time and this completely sold me: Sounds like English, haha. Also if we are talking Japanese thrash, nothing beats King's~Evil. They had a new album last year too after like a 10 year gap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CW96x9zOk0 http://youtu.be/3dKUiQYr4P4
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 21:06 |
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MrBling posted:If anything, my preference in regards to the perceived skill level and production in metal seems to be devolving. The dirtier and sloppier it gets, the better it is. At the end of the day, the guy playing bass in this can do this and this. Shove your tech death.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 21:10 |
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Tech death literally raped and murdered my family
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 21:11 |
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nerve posted:Tech death literally raped and murdered my family It's making a lot of death metal boring as poo poo.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 21:19 |
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I only listen to posttech deathcore. I agree though, tech death is impressive, but getting kinda stale. Still love me some Nile though, I'm a sucker for the interludes.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 21:20 |
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The issue isn't technicality really. This is technical and still good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74Dn596S5M as is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrBZZtGFgI The issue is that these "tech death" bands are just becoming a dime a dozen and not remotely interesting.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 22:06 |
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Truly an issue that only applies to technical death metal
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 22:10 |
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I prefer older death metal stylings (Autopsy, Death, Swedish DM), because that's what I got into growing up, or appeals more due to the rawness and no-frills attitude. It could be a case of "get off my lawn" because it seems "younger" people tend to enjoy tech death more from personal experience. Tech death usually equates to that plastic sounding perfect engineering job which I can't stand most of the time. No person in their right mind would or can deny the musicianship of bands like Obscura, but it gets in the way of a good tune. Don't get me wrong, there are times where I want to hear musicians wank about, but prefer to listen to progressive rock or metal for that, or Atheist.
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nudejedi posted:I only listen to posttech deathcore. I think the thing that keeps me hooked about Nile is their whole theme. It's not even that the whole Egyptian theme is particularly awesome (even though it is) it's that they just do it so incredibly well. Even their most techy parts include the overall ambiance. I MEAN C'MON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsndxT2wQc
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I think the thing that keeps me hooked about Nile is their whole theme. It's not even that the whole Egyptian theme is particularly awesome (even though it is) it's that they just do it so incredibly well. Even their most techy parts include the overall ambiance. I haven't listened to Nile since I was in high school, I just don't see the point to when I know they will never beat Amongst the Catacombs or In Their Darkened Shrines. Those two and Behemoth's Zos Kia Cultus pretty much defined my high school musical taste.
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# ? Mar 10, 2012 23:43 |
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Talks of Japanese metal and no mention of X Japan? What, no Transgressor love?
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# ? Mar 11, 2012 00:48 |
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:What, no Transgressor love? Good band but certainly not a well known one. I'd mention Coffins or Corrupted before Transgressor. Don't know how you guys take to melodic death metal and I am certainly hardly a fan, but Intestine Baalism is great melodeath from Japan largely in part because they just sound like a death metal band who know the value of melody. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kC-xc7QkE
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# ? Mar 11, 2012 01:19 |
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Speaking of tech death here's a pretty great album that came out last summer. Can't remember who turned me on to this so apologies if it was this thread, but it's pretty great. http://burningatthestake.bandcamp.com/
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# ? Mar 11, 2012 01:30 |
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It's been said here already, but as long as a band is playing well-crafted songs and not just wanking, I don't care if it's tech-, melo-, old school, or whatever death. I actualy like Pavor quite a bit, even if I.wish their guitar tone was thicker and heavier. I could really never get into Meshuggah. I do think flashes of tech add color flavor or whatever, but you can't cook a satisfying meal made entirely out of spices. Dies this make any sense? Like sometimes bands get so hung up on technique that it makes the music one-dimensional.
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Leopold N. Loeb posted:It's been said here already, but as long as a band is playing well-crafted songs and not just wanking, I don't care if it's tech-, melo-, old school, or whatever death. I actualy like Pavor quite a bit, even if I.wish their guitar tone was thicker and heavier. I could really never get into Meshuggah. I do think flashes of tech add color flavor or whatever, but you can't cook a satisfying meal made entirely out of spices. Dies this make any sense? Like sometimes bands get so hung up on technique that it makes the music one-dimensional. I listen to a fair amount of technical music, and I often have a lot of trouble getting into tech death because every song tends to blend into each other. It may take tremendous musicianship to play but a lot of the songs are not memorable at all. I also hate obvious drum triggers and the over-produced new standard death metal sound. I really don't see the point in having a real drummer if you are going to make the drums sound almost exactly like a drum machine would.
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# ? Mar 11, 2012 08:40 |
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Enslaved did a loving amazing black metal cover of Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song last night and Jonanamary and I met them after the gig to get our tickets signed. They're all such awesome dudes. Triptykon were great too. Cannibal Corpse were a bit uninspiring to be honest. They just don't really grab me and frankly, Cannabis Corpse actually seem to write better songs these days.
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Stoo posted:Enslaved did a loving amazing black metal cover of Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song last night and Jonanamary and I met them after the gig to get our tickets signed. They're all such awesome dudes. I have a dollar bill signed by 3 of them. Ivar was so down to earth it's not even funny.
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hellocruelworld posted:I listen to a fair amount of technical music, and I often have a lot of trouble getting into tech death because every song tends to blend into each other. It may take tremendous musicianship to play but a lot of the songs are not memorable at all. I also hate obvious drum triggers and the over-produced new standard death metal sound. I really don't see the point in having a real drummer if you are going to make the drums sound almost exactly like a drum machine would. I think that's why black metal has so much appeal, at least for me, because it's just straight up I don't give a poo poo about the production because it shouldn't be centered around that aspect and should be raw as hell. I love a great produced album as much as the next person but my buddy and I were talking about how much we admire bands that can pull off just sounding great with little or no tweaking. For Example
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# ? Mar 11, 2012 12:58 |
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I've been listening to the new Avenger album, as well as the compilation they've released celebrating their 20 years of existence and it's served as a timely reminder of how amazingly good they are. Czech death/black. They also had a side project called Black Rain which blows 90% of black metal out the water on their only demo.
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The Clit Avoider posted:I've been listening to the new Avenger album, as well as the compilation they've released celebrating their 20 years of existence and it's served as a timely reminder of how amazingly good they are. Czech death/black. You're the only other person ever to mention Avenger in a long time. Guys, this band is excellent, do yourself a favour and check them out. Czech bands sound more evil due to their native language, sounds so vicious and full of bile when growled. My favourite is probably Godless, but Fall of Devotion, Wrath and Blasphemy is superb too. fappenmeister fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Mar 12, 2012 |
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The new Gorod is out, and it is amazing as expected.
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# ? Mar 12, 2012 02:34 |
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Yeah the new Gorod album is really good. Does anyone know anything about The Faceless' new album? I saw on metalstorm that it was set for release in February, but then it just disappeared. Oh and I hope the new Gojira album comes out this month! EDIT: OH YEAH JEFF LOOMIS ALBUM SAMPLER GET YOUR SHRED OUT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJXxsbzYX0 Kevin Bacon fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Mar 12, 2012 |
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Jeff Loomis is one of my favorite guitarists but I was a little underwhelmed/bored by Zero Order Phase. That said, I'm so loving stoked for the track with Isahn. Edit: Which is apparently streaming here: http://www.rockhard.de/megazine/praesentationen/jeff-loomis-surrender.html Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 12, 2012 |
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Thoughts on Flourishing? Been listening to The Sum of All Fossils and I'm loving it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJrcrymMOok Bands like these are the best thing to happen to death metal in ages. They make the genre listenable again.
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Yawn, more boring shred poo poo from Jeff LoomisKillsion posted:Thoughts on Flourishing? Been listening to The Sum of All Fossils and I'm loving it. Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Mar 12, 2012 |
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