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Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!
I'm about to get back on Verizon after a brief (and regretful) hiatus, and I was just told this in the Recommend me a phone and/or plan! v2.0 thread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3026166&pagenumber=120#lastpost

ExcessBLarg! posted:

You probably want to consult with the Verizon thread on this one as there are reps there that can confirm the strategy. I think what you'll have to do is start a new, individual line on AmazonWireless to get the $100 Galaxy Nexus, then upgrade it to a family plan w/two-lines at a store or someplace where you can purchase the iPhone.

The catch is that Amazon has their own ETF of $250 if you don't maintain the line the device is on for 181 days. I don't think there should be any trouble upgrading that line into a family plan though.

I want to purchase this Galaxy Nexus 4g at Amazon Wireless for $99 as an individual line, and then since Amazon Wireless doesn't offer any iPhone's, add an iPhone 4S as a family line for the wife. Will this plan work?

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Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

I'm about to get back on Verizon after a brief (and regretful) hiatus, and I was just told this in the Recommend me a phone and/or plan! v2.0 thread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3026166&pagenumber=120#lastpost


I want to purchase this Galaxy Nexus 4g at Amazon Wireless for $99 as an individual line, and then since Amazon Wireless doesn't offer any iPhone's, add an iPhone 4S as a family line for the wife. Will this plan work?

What EB posted will work. I went through the same research when I started my new Verizon plan. Make a brand new account through Amazon for the Nexus, and add the iPhone later to make it a family plan. It won't affect the Amazon commission so they won't charge their $250 ETF.

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS
Well, it's currently 9:25pm. I unplugged my phone from its charger yesterday morning at 8:45am and it's right now at 4% with no charging in between and pretty regular usage.

To say I'm very satisfied with this Razr Maxx is putting it mildly. I love this phone

mrchina
Sep 8, 2004

nickhimself posted:

Well, it's currently 9:25pm. I unplugged my phone from its charger yesterday morning at 8:45am and it's right now at 4% with no charging in between and pretty regular usage.

To say I'm very satisfied with this Razr Maxx is putting it mildly. I love this phone

Wow that's very nice. I'm just about done with my galaxy nexus. This is my second device, first one wouldn't charge.... But they both have the same issues everyone on the internet gripes about. This thing is going back Monday for the Maxx.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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mrchina posted:

Wow that's very nice. I'm just about done with my galaxy nexus. This is my second device, first one wouldn't charge.... But they both have the same issues everyone on the internet gripes about. This thing is going back Monday for the Maxx.

What kind of issues? I just bought 3 GNex'es and want to keep an eye out.

lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 24, 2012

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

traveling midget posted:

What kind of issues? I just bought 3 GNex'es and want to keep an eye out.

Yes, what issues? Because I'm about to buy one off amazon.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Yes, what issues? Because I'm about to buy one off amazon.

No issues. See how he didn't list specifics? I'm not trying to troll, but if you have specific issues, list them. If your issue is "it's not an iphone," you shouldn't buy any android at all. I've had a GNEX since launch and it has been flawless. I ran it on stock software unrooted for one month, rooted for one month, and since a few weeks ago have tried about 3 different roms.

I came from a very reliable phone (HTC Droid Incredible) and the GNEX is on par with it as far as stability and surpasses it 4 fold as far as performance.

blackflare
Dec 6, 2004

I am a Purrrfect Princess

Yeah I have a nexus as well and It's been working flawlessly for me. The battery was kinda annoying, but I tweaked some settings and installed a custom rom and it's great now. I love woofi.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Bob A Feet posted:

I came from a very reliable phone (HTC Droid Incredible) and the GNEX is on par with it as far as stability and surpasses it 4 fold as far as performance.

This is me, right here. I got the extended battery for free from a Costco mail in rebate, and the 4.0.4 update is pretty awesome.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

I got these three text messages last night at like 11:30 PM, all three in rapid succession.

What the hell is this, and did I just get a $10 charge slammed onto my bill? I replied with "STOP" but now I'm worried that was some kind of acknowledgement and made it even more likely that they'd charge me.

Can *611 or someone in a store tell me anything more about whether a charge will come my way, or do I need to wait until my bill cycle?

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mrchina
Sep 8, 2004

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Yes, what issues? Because I'm about to buy one off amazon.

I bought the first Motorola Droid Verizon released on launch day, and have used about 15 different smartphones after that... but I also used to work at Verizon Wireless for just under 2 years. I have been flashing phones since they figured out how to root and my ignorance is not the issue here.

I constantly lose 4g signal, but in my area we're blanketed with 4g. If I'm sitting at my desk in my office I'll have three bars of 4g, and 10 minutes later I'll look down and either have zero service or 3g service only. So I rooted, tried the 4.0.4 radios out there but they weren't great in my area. Both the 4.02 and 4.04 radios had the same connectivity issues. The 4.0.3 radios weren't worth trying for more than 2 hours in my area. NO matter what I do, where I'm doing it, or what time of the day it is, my phone drops 4g signal a few times per day (or hour), kicks over to 3g signal, and I have to turn it on airplane mode or restart it to kick it over to 4g again. I have tried different roms, a different sim card, no dice. This is a known issue.

The first phone I got wasn't able to charge the battery. No worries. However the phone rebooted twice in the 4 hours I had it. This phone also reboots on the stock rom, but not as often. This is a known issue.

The second phone, above the 4g connectivity issues, every time I make a call I have awful quality compared to my Incredible 1, Inc 2, Droid 1, Blackberry Bold, etc, etc, etc,. The first one this happened as well but not as bad.

The screen on my first one was great. This new one has huge banding, etc. They both were noticeable when I turn the brightness down. Yes, there is nothing you can really do about it as it's the screen type, but the first one I had that couldn't hold a charge was much, much better looking.

I may have gotten two bum units, but I'm not alone and I'm just not going to waste my time anymore. I have a real job now, I love rooting and love how awesome the Nexus concept is, but I'm not going to wait to see if 4.0.5 fixes the issues when my 14 day return window is coming up. I need a phone that works when my customers call. I need to be able to have my emails pushed to me and not worry if the phone lost data connectivity like it has before. Maybe if 4.0.5 fixes everything, I'll buy another off Craigslist, but right now I can't afford to hold onto the phone.

mrchina fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 24, 2012

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 21:00 on May 13, 2012

mrchina
Sep 8, 2004

traveling midget posted:

It sounds like you got two lovely units; I don't know that blaming the software or the phone in general is the right answer.

I don't know, but I do know that the Thunderbolt I had had almost the exact same 4g issues till quite a few months after the launch when they released an update that essentially fixed most of the issues with connectivity.

But seriously, call up to Verizon if you have a Galaxy Nexus and say that there are connectivity issues, they will start to say its a known issue and the software update 4.0.5 will fix it... but I'm not going to wait around because I can't afford to.

mrchina fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Mar 24, 2012

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 21:01 on May 13, 2012

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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I had the same issues that mrchina had up until flashing 4.0.4. It really is sad how slow updates are for this phone when the issues it has are pretty serious. Remember most people are ignorant on rooting and flashing roms, so the Nexus has to be pretty disappointing to a lot of people with 4.0.2s extremely terrible radios. Also even with 4.0.4 the battery life is atrocious.
This is supposed to be a phone that just works....and so far it hasn't meet that criteria.
Having said all the negative stuff, I do really enjoy ICS and its a really awesome device and hopefully 4.0.5 is the magical cure to everything including battery life.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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I'm on 4.0.2 and have none of these problems :psyduck:

Also do I have to actually flash 4.0.4 etc, or will they come OTA?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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traveling midget posted:

I'm on 4.0.2 and have none of these problems :psyduck:

Also do I have to actually flash 4.0.4 etc, or will they come OTA?

You have to flash it, and no it will not be released. 4.0.5 is the next update.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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Auron posted:

You have to flash it, and no it will not be released. 4.0.5 is the next update.

Flashing a stock ROM update is foreign to me. That's weird.

EDIT: Google says 4.0.4 was a leak, now it makes sense.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Bob A Feet posted:

No issues. See how he didn't list specifics? I'm not trying to troll, but

Why does he have to list out every issue he's had and everything he's done to try to fix it to get your approval?

its pretty clear "not an iPhone" is not his problem because he wants to exchange them for RAZR MAXX's, which do run Android.

I'm kinda sick of the Galaxy Nexus cheerleading when its clear that they do have issues. Just because you haven't had any issues doesn't mean that they don't exist, and makes you no better than XDA twerps who claim that their ~FR4GALiciOUS~~ ROM is rock solid stable because their phone hasn't crashed in two hours.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
It's funny how some people justify the phone by going "You've just had bad units so far! Keep exchanging it until you get a good one!"

Uh what? gently caress that. One bad phone is ok...two is pushing it and anything above that if I were in my return period I would return that poo poo ASAP.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

It's funny how some people justify the phone by going "You've just had bad units so far! Keep exchanging it until you get a good one!"

Uh what? gently caress that. One bad phone is ok...two is pushing it and anything above that if I were in my return period I would return that poo poo ASAP.

Or better yet, "Void your warranty by flashing a different ROM, that'll totally fix everything!"

I mean, I root and rom a lot, and I know that I'm playing with fire by doing so - if my phone dies in a way that I can't flash back to stock, Verizon will not honor the warranty. Let's not give Samsung (or Google) an out here. They need to have a non-defective phone out there.

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS

Mark Larson posted:

Why does he have to list out every issue he's had and everything he's done to try to fix it to get your approval?

its pretty clear "not an iPhone" is not his problem because he wants to exchange them for RAZR MAXX's, which do run Android.

I'm kinda sick of the Galaxy Nexus cheerleading when its clear that they do have issues. Just because you haven't had any issues doesn't mean that they don't exist, and makes you no better than XDA twerps who claim that their ~FR4GALiciOUS~~ ROM is rock solid stable because their phone hasn't crashed in two hours.

Anecdotal evidence is sometimes worse than no evidence at all because you have no idea what other variables are in there. Unless you know the person giving the evidence very very well and trust their opinion, you should take their story at like 25% truth, 75% circumstance.

When I had my Thunderbolt the 4G was spotty as gently caress for the first two months while Verizon was rolling it out everywhere. After that, it definitely became more stable and reliable.

Installing a handful of ROMs on my Thunderbolt got me to a good, stable Daily Driver that on the extended battery could idle for a really long time; with use the battery drained faster than I wanted but it was still enough to give me juice throughout the whole day without charging. On the stock HTC battery I couldn't do a god drat thing without having to be near a charger. That's a serious deal breaker for phones, and that should be universally unacceptable.

If you can't even use your phone as a phone without having to take a break to charge, then something isn't right. That's something that literally zero people should put up with.


My girlfriend had an OG Droid until recently and went through 3 of them over the 2 years or so that she had it. One replacement was due to a cracked screen, the other two were battery problems. I read some stuff online about a dying battery in the droid being the reason for ghosting and sporadic lag in apps. She switched to a Bionic before the Razr Maxx came out and got the extended battery for it right away. She's not too happy that my phone is what she wanted all along but wasn't available when she needed it.


I've said in here before, I believe, that my razr maxx IS rooted and I have a custom ROM running on it. I don't know what the performance or battery life is on stock at all because as soon as it was activated, I rooted and swapped ROMs. I absolutely will not deal with a Verizon phone that has all of their lovely bloatware running without the option to uninstall it.

LET'S GOLF 2

more friedman units
Jul 7, 2010

The next six months will be critical.

mrchina posted:

I bought the first Motorola Droid Verizon released on launch day, and have used about 15 different smartphones after that... but I also used to work at Verizon Wireless for just under 2 years. I have been flashing phones since they figured out how to root and my ignorance is not the issue here.

I constantly lose 4g signal, but in my area we're blanketed with 4g. If I'm sitting at my desk in my office I'll have three bars of 4g, and 10 minutes later I'll look down and either have zero service or 3g service only. So I rooted, tried the 4.0.4 radios out there but they weren't great in my area. Both the 4.02 and 4.04 radios had the same connectivity issues. The 4.0.3 radios weren't worth trying for more than 2 hours in my area. NO matter what I do, where I'm doing it, or what time of the day it is, my phone drops 4g signal a few times per day (or hour), kicks over to 3g signal, and I have to turn it on airplane mode or restart it to kick it over to 4g again. I have tried different roms, a different sim card, no dice. This is a known issue.

The first phone I got wasn't able to charge the battery. No worries. However the phone rebooted twice in the 4 hours I had it. This phone also reboots on the stock rom, but not as often. This is a known issue.

The second phone, above the 4g connectivity issues, every time I make a call I have awful quality compared to my Incredible 1, Inc 2, Droid 1, Blackberry Bold, etc, etc, etc,. The first one this happened as well but not as bad.

The screen on my first one was great. This new one has huge banding, etc. They both were noticeable when I turn the brightness down. Yes, there is nothing you can really do about it as it's the screen type, but the first one I had that couldn't hold a charge was much, much better looking.

I may have gotten two bum units, but I'm not alone and I'm just not going to waste my time anymore. I have a real job now, I love rooting and love how awesome the Nexus concept is, but I'm not going to wait to see if 4.0.5 fixes the issues when my 14 day return window is coming up. I need a phone that works when my customers call. I need to be able to have my emails pushed to me and not worry if the phone lost data connectivity like it has before. Maybe if 4.0.5 fixes everything, I'll buy another off Craigslist, but right now I can't afford to hold onto the phone.

For what it's worth, you're having the exact same problems I had with my Galaxy Nexus. I traded it in for a Droid Razr MAXX which has worked flawlessly. It has an Ice Cream Sandwich planned if that's a factor for you.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

Bob A Feet posted:

No issues. See how he didn't list specifics? I'm not trying to troll, but if you have specific issues, list them. If your issue is "it's not an iphone," you shouldn't buy any android at all. I've had a GNEX since launch and it has been flawless. I ran it on stock software unrooted for one month, rooted for one month, and since a few weeks ago have tried about 3 different roms.

I came from a very reliable phone (HTC Droid Incredible) and the GNEX is on par with it as far as stability and surpasses it 4 fold as far as performance.

The Nexus is far from infallible, I gave up on mine. Not sure how much was hardware and how much were ICS growing pains..

4G Connection Issues, dropping all internet and no connection until a reboot.

Connection issues in general, RF on this phone is not as good as any of the other 4G phones, couldn't call out in a low signal area that others worked fine.

Weird crosshatching pattern in the screen, most noticeable on white/light colors.

Audio glitches when running google music and various other apps at the same time, most noticeably cardiotrainer.

Really, really poor Bluetooth performance. My Moto BT headsets would constantly have dropouts with the phone in my pocket.

Piss poor performance on many games that ran fine on the GTab, Xyboard, Rezound, Razr and Spectrum.

Marginal Battery life.

At the store level, I seem most of the returns we get on them are for the 4G issues, but even then, it's not selling terribly well to begin with.

Mighty Horse fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Mar 26, 2012

0x0hShit
Mar 11, 2011

Mighty Horse posted:

The Nexus is far from infallible, I gave up on mine. Not sure how much was hardware and how much were ICS growing pains..

So it sounds like the Nexus is the device to get if you want Gee-Whiz and future proofing with custom ROM flashing, and the MAXX is the one if you just want a workhorse smartphone that will probably have a decent lifespan on stock updates? I've had an upgrade burning a hole in my pocket for the past few months, but this generation of phones hasn't done it for me. It just feels like picking either one is a harsh compromise.

ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE
My anecdotal experience with our 2 GNs has been great. I flashed CM in the first few days and it has been pretty flawless. I had one day where I lost data connectivity completely, and simply just re flashed to fix it. My wife's phone has literally had zero issues.

Both screens look great, both have decent battery life. I feel bad for the people who received bad eggs, because I've never been so happy with a device.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
I wouldn't expect a lot of updates on the maxx. To ice cream sandwich sure, but don't expect past that.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

0x0hShit posted:

So it sounds like the Nexus is the device to get if you want Gee-Whiz and future proofing with custom ROM flashing, and the MAXX is the one if you just want a workhorse smartphone that will probably have a decent lifespan on stock updates? I've had an upgrade burning a hole in my pocket for the past few months, but this generation of phones hasn't done it for me. It just feels like picking either one is a harsh compromise.

The Maxx isn't perfect either, but I feel its the better choice if you don't want to mess around with flashing and custom roms.

IMHO ICS isn't this massive upgrade worthy of how people seem to obsess about it.

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.
Anyone know how long it takes an account to reflect a Costco contract renewal? I upgraded like 8 weeks ago and have gone through a full monthly cycle but it still show me as having an available upgrade.

mrchina
Sep 8, 2004
Before I return the galaxy nexus and get the RAZR Maxx, anyone have inside information on the Droid Fighter? If the fighter is coming out in two or so weeks, it'll be worth the wait.

mrchina fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Mar 26, 2012

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

mrchina posted:

Before I return the galaxy nexus and get the RAZR Maxx, anyone have inside information on the Droid Fighter? If the fighter is coming out in two or so weeks, it'll be worth the wait.

Droid fighter is rumored to be April 12th. Droid Fighter maxx will obviously come out a month after that.

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

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Mighty Horse posted:

The Maxx isn't perfect either, but I feel its the better choice if you don't want to mess around with flashing and custom roms.

IMHO ICS isn't this massive upgrade worthy of how people seem to obsess about it.

Well, even software aside, the Nexus has a better screen and doesn't have the almost obsolete capacitive buttons. The Razr Maxx has other hardware advantages for sure, but just as you argue ICS isn't so important, I would argue a massive battery is even less important for most people. I guess having to charge your phone every other night instead of every night is a slight benefit, but even if software and all else was equal, is it worth the worse screen? For most people, I would imagine not.

I totally get you on not glossing over flaws in the Galaxy Nexus, but I think you're pushing too far in the other direction. It isn't perfect, but its screen, (stock) software advantages, and superior official and community support still mean I'd recommend it over the Razr Maxx.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Don Lapre posted:

Droid Fighter maxx will obviously come out a month after that.

Unlikely. The preliminary info is that the Droid Fighter already has the 3300mAH battery.

Bart Fargo
Mar 24, 2005

Il Raggio Infernale

I just got Babby's First Smartphone today, and everything seems to be working fine except for setting up the email. The phone is a Samsung Stratosphere, and every time I try to enter my login information I get this:

code:
Account setup error
80201 : Getting Token Failed
Using the Gmail app works fine, logging in through the browser works fine, so I know the password is correct and the account's in order. Just curious if there was an obvious (to anyone that didn't have a flip phone yesterday) that I am missing before I call support.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

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Bart Fargo posted:

I just got Babby's First Smartphone today, and everything seems to be working fine except for setting up the email. The phone is a Samsung Stratosphere, and every time I try to enter my login information I get this:

code:
Account setup error
80201 : Getting Token Failed
Using the Gmail app works fine, logging in through the browser works fine, so I know the password is correct and the account's in order. Just curious if there was an obvious (to anyone that didn't have a flip phone yesterday) that I am missing before I call support.

I'm assuming this is for setting up a gmail account? Don't know why you wouldn't just use the Gmail app (unless you have more than one email) but you have to manually enable IMAP/POP in gmail for it to work with 3rd party apps/clients.

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

Bart Fargo posted:

I just got Babby's First Smartphone today, and everything seems to be working fine except for setting up the email. The phone is a Samsung Stratosphere, and every time I try to enter my login information I get this:

code:
Account setup error
80201 : Getting Token Failed
Using the Gmail app works fine, logging in through the browser works fine, so I know the password is correct and the account's in order. Just curious if there was an obvious (to anyone that didn't have a flip phone yesterday) that I am missing before I call support.

If it's a Gmail account, use the Gmail app. If it's pop3, imap, or Exchange you would use the email app but try setting it up manually. Make sure you have all the setup information from your work or whoever.

Bart Fargo
Mar 24, 2005

Il Raggio Infernale

WeaselWeaz posted:

If it's a Gmail account, use the Gmail app. If it's pop3, imap, or Exchange you would use the email app but try setting it up manually. Make sure you have all the setup information from your work or whoever.

Got it, thanks. Chalk it up to a strong case of Don't Know What I'm Doing Syndrome.

icemonkey
Jan 31, 2007
got to keep movin
I have a family plan (two phones, no data) and I'm looking to replace one of the phones. I don't think I want to get a new contract (do I?). Verizon store says I have a fifty dollar credit but all of the phones cost at least $100 and I've seen the same phone on Amazon for $0.01 but it was a little unclear if that was for existing contracts. Am I better off going to Best Buy or Amazon or something?

I don't trust the Verizon store at all, just want to know what my options are.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

icemonkey posted:

I don't think I want to get a new contract (do I?).

If you don't want to be locked into another 2 years with the same carrier you don't need to sign another one and just keep paying month by month. The advantage to the contract is that places like Amazon, BB, etc offer discounted prices on phones. Usually you can find many used phones for the same price as NEW about 6-12 months after they are released.

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Lker
Oct 26, 2010
Is there an easy way to port my number to Google Voice for full integration under Verizon? I've heard of a twenty dollar fee to keep my number and such but I'm wondering if it will affect my contract in general. I am on a family plan with unlimited data so I would like to maintain those as they are right now.

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