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sok2bametalhead posted:Chicago Booth class of 2012 checking in. I'm wrapping up my penultimate quarter in the Full-Time program. If people have questions, I might be in a good position to respond. I can speak to coursework, summer internships, the application process, and general observations about the backgrounds of my colleagues (it sounds like there are a lot of "what background do I need?" questions). How well were F500 companies represented among your peers? What companies and what demographics? Also thanks for doing this.
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Thoogsby posted:How well were F500 companies represented among your peers? What companies and what demographics? Also thanks for doing this. Like the non-profit question, this one is tough to answer. You would probably get better info Googling around and trying to actual figures on this. It's not the case that there is some large group of people from the same company. I'm one of 2 or 3 people in my class from my company (though not a F500). I would be surprised if there are any companies better represented than this. As far as I can tell, there is no preference for any particular companies. It really comes down to the applicants. Also keep in mind that my comments are limited to the Full-Time program. There may be larger cohorts of people coming from the same company in the Executive and Part-Time programs. I imagine many F500 companies regularly send groups through these programs each year (though, they typically return to the same firms they left). Most of what you read about the amazing recruiting opportunities at top MBA programs largely applies to the Full-Time programs. I rarely see non-FT students during the recruiting process (in fact, I think non-FT students are blocked from some activities). Many people that choose non-FT programs do it, because they just want to advance within their current companies. For what it's worth, I can also comment on the ages of students (people seem concerned about this). I'm one of the younger students (I turned 27 during my second year of the program). I had just over three years of consulting experience. I think there are only 3 people in my class that came directly from undergrad. Many people are over 30, though. One of my closest friends in the program is 35. If you're 30, it's definitely not "too late."
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I'm considering applying for my MBA but it won't be for 4-5 years. I'm 25, male, Hispanic, and work for an investment advisor firm that manages about 3 billion in assets. I'm currently in client service which is assisting existing clients and will likely move into sales within the next 6 months to a year. I plan on staying with this company since there is a lot of room for growth and ideally moving into a managerial role. I went to UC Irvine, majored in English, and finished with a 3.3 GPA. I already plan on taking math classes at a local CC since I never made it past pre-calc, and I've heard that 2nd language is a big plus so I will continue to work on my mediocre spanish language skills. Am I okay with this plan or would I be better served taking extension classes at UCLA? I am also looking to start volunteering. Is it better to pick 1 or 2 charities and try to gain a leadership role or show a diversity in interests? My goal is to get my MBA so I can eventually start my own firm that focuses on lower income families and managing their assets. Since I have a few years before I plan on applying, what are the best ways to beef up my application? I've tried reading Poets & Quants but it's tough since most of the situations they describe are no where near mine.
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I need some advice. I was recently admitted into a school in the top 50 at the rankings according to this site [/url]http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings[/url]. I originally applied for the fall quarter, but they shoe horned me to start in the Spring. I have completed the opening residential, paid my $1000 non refundable deposit and school starts on April 2nd. I was informed today that I have been admitted to a program in the top 25 of that same list. Do you guys think it's worth it for me to switch? If I do switch, what's the best way to do so gracefully without burning any bridges?
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Unless the school is in the top 10, the ranking doesn't matter that much. You are either "top tier" or you're not. If you're not in the top 10, it's more important that the school is located by opportunities that you're interested in. Want to work for Amazon or Microsoft? Go to UW (#35) in Seattle.
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BlessedBullet posted:Unless the school is in the top 10, the ranking doesn't matter that much. You are either "top tier" or you're not. If you're not in the top 10, it's more important that the school is located by opportunities that you're interested in. Want to work for Amazon or Microsoft? Go to UW (#35) in Seattle. I think this is the right way to think about it too. It's a set of tiers. Top 10, pretty good schools, and then all the rest.
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BlessedBullet posted:Unless the school is in the top 10, the ranking doesn't matter that much.
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I am having a hell of a time trying to get an internship or a position at a fashion/marketing position. Was really hoping LVMH would pick me up but they are flat out denying me in a lot of my positions and I feel I am hardly getting calls back when sending resumes. I have a good resume, I even attend a top 10 school in France. Bahhhh.. An earlier post got me thinking, I live in France but I am an American and thinking of going back to the US. I wonder if my French address and phone number are acting as an obstacle for recruiters.
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Enigma89 posted:I am having a hell of a time trying to get an internship or a position at a fashion/marketing position. Was really hoping LVMH would pick me up but they are flat out denying me in a lot of my positions and I feel I am hardly getting calls back when sending resumes. I have a good resume, I even attend a top 10 school in France. Euromed is not considered a top B-school in France. People below the top 3 hardly have any chance to work in marketing for top companies where the marketing department is really important (like Loreal/LVMH/Dior etc). A good friend of mine who attended Essec joined Dior's graduate program last year and told me it was extremely competitive. Go on linkedin and check the profiles of people who work in the marketing departments of those companies you'll have a hard time finding someone who's not out of HEC/Essec/ESCP Science Po Paris and maybe EM/Edhec but that's it really. Macnigore fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Mar 31, 2012 |
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Macnigore posted:Euromed is not considered a top B-school in France. Do you think getting into one of these top French MBA programs is just as hard as getting into a top US MBA? What kind of background does your friend (and his classmates) have?
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Omits-Bagels posted:Do you think getting into one of these top French MBA programs is just as hard as getting into a top US MBA? What kind of background does your friend (and his classmates) have? I was talking about straight out of school jobs, the equivalent of your undergrad in the US I guess. I'm pretty sure that enigma has attended Euromed's undergrad program (Im not even sure if they have an MBA). In France business schools do not really focus on MBA programs, they are focused on undergraduate business degrees for out of highschool students (well not really, in order to get into top Bschools you have to prepare for a very hard "concours"/exam with a national ranking. The first 300 go to HEC, then the following 300 go to Essec, etc etc). As for MBA programs in France for students with work experience, the only top program is Insead. Top program as in "game changer" which will allow someone to do a real career or geographical switch and make spending 50k+COL worth it. HEC has an MBA program but nothing comparable with Insead. It's pretty well regarded in France, but that's it really, it doesn't have the international exposure of Insead. All the other french MBA programs are pretty much worthless without a top-notch undergrad diploma + top notch pre-MBA work experience --> The ROI of those MBAs is really questionable and thats why in France in general very few people attend MBA programs. The prevalent mentality here for prospective MBA students is "M7 or nothing". Macnigore fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 1, 2012 |
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Macnigore posted:Euromed is not considered a top B-school in France. It's not the super top elite like EDHEC but it is still a pretty good school. I am applying to positions all over the world and I am not getting much success. Euromed is a top 10 school, should help but is not really hooking. I know that most of the people working in top firms are from EDHEC and such but there are still a decent amount of Euromed alumni working at LVMH and some other decent companies. Oh as for me, I did my undergrad in the US and Euromed does have MBA programs. One of them is actually decently ranked but I forget what it is. Also in other Euromed News, the university is going through a merger with EM Bordeaux, so the school is going to be looking like the new 'Skema.' Goal is to be a top 15 European school. Enigma89 fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 1, 2012 |
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Small White Dragon posted:They rank full-time/part-time/executive programs separately these days. Does only the full time ranking matter? Full time matters most because that's the list people are most familiar with. Though, if a recruiter looks at your resume and sees "Stanford", chances are she's going to assume that you roughly got the same teachers/classes, regardless of what specific program you went through (though this is not always the actual case). I got a "Technology Management" MBA - which is completely unranked - but people just assume I got a regular MBA from my alma mater with some sort of tech specialization.
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Macnigore posted:Euromed is not considered a top B-school in France. I went to the MBA at HEC and it's fine within France but it has no recognition outside of Europe. If you want to stay in France then it's an option for you (Enigma). As Macnigore said, HEC is known for the Grande Ecole (MSc) and not the MBA graduates. LVMH does recruit there but I hope that you can speak Mandarin because that is where all their business growth it coming from. There were HEC LVMH events where they told the students that they only wanted students who could speak at least one Asian language. I know some people who are working at both LV and Gucci in Asia and they have to start as sales people in the retail shops. blugbee fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Apr 8, 2012 |
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Hello MBA folks, I am hoping you can help with a few questions I have. I'm currently a federal employee working as a logistics management specialist for the Army. Specifically I am a project manager for logistics and manufacturing projects utilizing ERP software (SAP). The Army has a program that pays for tuition expenses related to my job. I've decided I want to make myself more marketable and I believe an MBA would be the path forward. I already have a BA in International Relations from University of Southern California. I live and work in the middle of nowhere; currently my options would be: 1 - Quit my job and go back to any school I can get into, eating the expenses as student loans (I already have $23,000 debt load from my BA); 2 - Keep my job and get the awesome tuition assistance, but go to either online courses or attend University of Nevada Reno, which is an 80 mile drive for me. I'm not really happy in my current job, but regardless I'm leaning heavily toward option 2. The majority of the expenses would be covered, plus by going option two I could remain federally employed and accrue retirement benefits as I continue to go to school etc. My boss referred me to University of Phoenix. I see ads for them all the time and thought they were probably just some shady for-profit. Alternatively I could find another university that allows for online courses; I don't know the specifics of the tuition assistance but I would have to assume there is some kind of cap. I spoke with a counselor from UoPX who told me the total cost for the MBA is going up to $39,695 from $38,420 this July (including books) and would take about two years. But I have concerns about the university in general and I guess I'm wondering if my concerns are totally unfounded. Would it look bad to have a fairly prestigious USC BA followed up by UoPX MBA? They offer concentrations in Project Management so I'd quickly be able to follow up directly with PMI certifications which I think will top out my resume very nicely. But if that can be accomplished at a better college that offers online courses that my tuition assistance would cover, I would like to hear about it. I'm doing research into the tuition assistance right now and I'll be back with hopefully more concrete numbers about the program and what I can do with it. Thanks! Drewski fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 10, 2012 |
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Drewski posted:I've decided I want to make myself more marketable Beyond checking some government-mandated box for "Must have MBA", Phoenix isn't going to do much for you. Because you don't sound too happy with your current employer, consider checking out metrics for MBA job placement. The data I've found so far for online MBAs isn't very encouraging  http://poetsandquants.com/2012/01/11/u-s-news-ranks-online-mbas/
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Mandalay posted:Beyond checking some government-mandated box for "Must have MBA", Phoenix isn't going to do much for you. Because you don't sound too happy with your current employer, consider checking out metrics for MBA job placement. Yeah I'm not happy, but I just found out that they provide 100% tuition assistance. I'm sure there's a cap, but so far as long as the course is relevant to my workload they will pay for it, and I can devote up to 10% of my work week to the coursework with no contractual obligation to stay. Looking for the cap now. And thanks for the info 
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One thing to consider: do you actually like Project Management? I joined PMI and self-studied the PMBOK two years ago and the stuff was so boring that I found myself slacking off by reading the US Tax Code and other accounting material.
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Mandalay posted:One thing to consider: do you actually like Project Management? I joined PMI and self-studied the PMBOK two years ago and the stuff was so boring that I found myself slacking off by reading the US Tax Code and other accounting material. While I'm sure the coursework sucks (I found earning my BA after six years in the military to be rather tedious and repetitive), I find the actual work fulfilling and could see myself doing it for a long time. I'm a project manager now so I know at least how the federal side of it operates, not necessarily how the private sector works. But, I figure an MBA is an MBA; even if there's a concentration it wouldn't necessarily be on the degree so it would still be applicable to other career paths. I talked to my bosses and they said they'd cover 100% of costs with no cap, only mentioning that the cost has to be "reasonable" and has to be applicable to my job. Subjective, so I'm going to have to do some searching. I spoke with a couple other people who said their per-class cost was between $1,200 and $1,500. One coworker is doing their coursework in-class at UNR, the other at Grantham totally online... So I guess I'm on the hunt for a reputable college that provides online-only degree programs at a max cost of ~$500-600 per unit. And I'd prefer to not have to take the GMAT/GRE, but I'd do it if I had to. edit: The search seems a bit easier than I at first thought. I'm looking at Brandman University. It's part of the Chapman University system which has the 'prestige' factor I was concerned about, the cost is $520 per unit, I can do online only, and I don't have to take the GMAT. And they have rolling enrollment. Drewski fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 10, 2012 |
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Mandalay posted:I joined PMI and self-studied the PMBOK two years ago and the stuff was so boring that I found myself slacking off by reading the US Tax Code and other accounting material. Drewski posted:I live and work in the middle of nowhere Small White Dragon fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Apr 10, 2012 |
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Small White Dragon posted:So what's Area 51 like, anyway? It's somewhat alien and inhospitable! At least that's what I hear...  On a whim I put in a request for information from Brandman University and they called me within 3 minutes. I was kind of surprised, but that was really prompt. The guy I spoke to was courteous and friendly. We talked on the phone for a bit and it sounds like a good fit. It's military friendly (They'll reduce my tuition to $440/unit), they have rolling enrollment, I won't need the GMAT/GRE with a 3.09 GPA, I can get a concentration in enterprise resource management (I work with SAP right now so the boss likey), and so I have an appointment with another counselor on Friday. Time to do some research!
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Drewski posted:edit: The search seems a bit easier than I at first thought. I'm looking at Brandman University. It's part of the Chapman University system which has the 'prestige' factor I was concerned about, the cost is $520 per unit, I can do online only, and I don't have to take the GMAT. And they have rolling enrollment. Well poo poo, their building is across the street from my office here in Orange County. I even dated one of their counselors. Do you get Chapman on your degree or is it Brandman?
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Nice! I wish I was living down there still. Was the counselor you dated named Kelly? And... does the building look nice? hah. I'm not sure about the degree thing. I'll ask at the meeting. --------- Hmm... It doesn't look like it's AACSB-accredited. But it's got top honors in US News & World Report, and the university itself is WASC accredited. Is that a problem?
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I don't think Chapman's reach extends beyond Orange County, and even within Orange County it's far below UCLA/USC/etc. I don't trust USNWR's entrepreneurship ranking because it's going to get you a job...how? If Brandman won't even give you the Chapman name, I don't see the point unless you can show me some evidence of solid recruiting data.
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Understood. However, I have to work with what I've got. My boss is essentially paying for the whole thing, so it has to be local (University of Nevada, Reno is the only option, and it would be a significant hassle) or online only. If there's a better online program out there, with better credentials and for a "reasonable" price, I'm all ears. I'm at a loss to understand the lack of reach though - Brandman advertises availability at 26 campuses in California and Washington. edit: USNWR ranks Brandman's online program in the following areas: #29 Faculty Credentials and Training #40 Student Engagement and Accreditation #24 Student Services and Technology http://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/brandman-university-OBUS0884/mba Arizona State looks good and comparable in cost too: #11 Admissions Selectivity #37 Faculty Credentials and Training #24 Student Engagement and Accreditation #32 Student Services and Technology http://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/arizona-state-university-OBUS0021/mba Drewski fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 11, 2012 |
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Drewski posted:Understood. However, I have to work with what I've got. My boss is essentially paying for the whole thing, so it has to be local (University of Nevada, Reno is the only option, and it would be a significant hassle) or online only.
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Drewski posted:I'm currently a federal employee working as a logistics management specialist for the Army. Specifically I am a project manager for logistics and manufacturing projects utilizing ERP software (SAP). EDIT: Nevermind, decided I shouldn't post that. Anyway I heard good things about UofA's MBA program, specifically their ad that says something to the effect of "Get an online MBA from an institution that's actually respected." Arcaeris fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Apr 11, 2012 |
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Small White Dragon posted:I realize driving a long distance on a daily basis is no fun, but could you do a weekend (or every other weekend) program? I wouldn't mind doing that as I usually head to Reno for the weekends anyway, and looked into UNR's program early this morning to see if they offer anything like you suggested. They actually do have an online EMBA program The application deadline for their in-class graduate program was March 15th. If the EMBA is not an option to me, then Reno may not be an option at all unless I want to wait almost a year to get into the spring 2013 semester. That application deadline is in October. I could try to waive the application deadline but don't really want to wait six months to get started; I know it sounds silly but I don't want to be that guy asking for special exceptions to their requirements right off the bat. I will look into the EMBA program, but if Reno doesn't pan out I will have to find a school in an open application period or with rolling deadlines. edit: Arcaeris posted:EDIT: Nevermind, decided I shouldn't post that. If you want to discuss something but don't want to mention it publicly you can PM me. Happy to discuss anything! UofA, I looked at the cost and I'm not sure if it's justifiable to my bosses. Edit 2: Doing more research on Brandman - Dept of Education reports a 2.2, 1.8, and 2.3% student loan default rate for 2007, 8, and 9 respectively for their postgraduate programs. That appears to be a few percentage points better than the national average. Drewski fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 23, 2012 |
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blugbee posted:I went to the MBA at HEC and it's fine within France but it has no recognition outside of Europe. If you want to stay in France then it's an option for you (Enigma). As Macnigore said, HEC is known for the Grande Ecole (MSc) and not the MBA graduates. LVMH does recruit there but I hope that you can speak Mandarin because that is where all their business growth it coming from. There were HEC LVMH events where they told the students that they only wanted students who could speak at least one Asian language. I know some people who are working at both LV and Gucci in Asia and they have to start as sales people in the retail shops. That is depressing in the world (starting in retail). I really like my program here in Euromed and I am glad that I did it but I can totally understand what you mean; Euromed is still pretty unknown outside of Europe. I am still in the process of finding a job so I will see how it goes with trying to land a job in the US. I would really like to do my MBA back in Europe but it may have to be in England or in Germany (I am not 100% fluent in French, but Germany/English is okay). I am glad that I came here but it is a bit hard to land a job here with my French level. I am pretty confident I can land a job in the US, but I don't know if it will be in fashion marketing (my preferred sector).. We will see. Enigma89 fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Apr 11, 2012 |
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I am making an appointment to speak with the counselor at UNR to see if I qualify for the EMBA. They normally require 5 years of post BA work experience, and I have 3.5ish years of post BA experience so I'm hoping they'll let me in as I also have six years of military experience (admittedly before the BA, but had I gone straight for the BA instead of going into the military I'd have 11 years of experience). That has to count for something right? Also, I'm considering applying to this: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-02/wanted-a-few-good-mbas
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Enigma89 posted:I would really like to do my MBA back in Europe but it may have to be in England or in Germany You're probably out of luck in Germany if you want something that will stand out in the fashion industry. After all, lederhosen aren't exactly at the top of fashion... Mannheim Business School (and the University of Mannheim, its parent institution), while relatively unknown outside the country, is a major focal point for business education in Germany. Large German industrial companies do lots of recruiting there, as well as selected multinationals from other sectors. Sits on Pilster fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Apr 13, 2012 |
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Just wondering but did any of you consider applying to ad agencies? I was interested in applying to a few positions to them but all seem really tiny. I can't find any really big names to apply to. I noticed that a poo poo ton of them are in London but as a non-England national it seems hard to get into one.
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I talked to the Dean at the University of Nevada, Reno, and boy am I glad I did. They have 42 applicants to their Online EMBA program and decided that they would stop accepting applications tomorrow instead of July. I also asked if the 5 years of post-bachelor's experience was an absolute requirement, he said no! So I got my application in and I'm going to email my resume and request a meeting with him this Friday. Whew. Thank goodness I called today. Otherwise my options would be severely limited. edit: The dean likes my resume, says my qualifications are more than sufficient for the EMBA program, I meet with him this Friday. Drewski fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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How do you guys deal with the post-interview jitters? I interviewed with Georgetown McDonough yesterday and I'm going through the "oh god I messed this poo poo up big time" navel-gazing phase.
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Killbot posted:How do you guys deal with the post-interview jitters? I interviewed with Georgetown McDonough yesterday and I'm going through the "oh god I messed this poo poo up big time" navel-gazing phase. Spirit it away with sunk-cost logic. Alternatively, booze.
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Oh man, I've been putting off studying for this thing for over a year. I had a really busy 2011 (working 80-100 hour weeks in some instances) and just kept putting it off. I'm now about 3 1/2 years out of school and feel like this is kind of a "now or never" time to get started on studying since I want to pursue a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering afterwards. The deadlines are all pushed up for Fall 2012 it seems and now I'm going to have to start in the Winter 2013 semester. The good news I guess is that I got a promotion in the meantime as well as some guaranteed letters of recommendation from senior management. Maybe it wasn't a total loss to wait a little while longer after all. No excuses though! I need to get my rear end in gear for the GMAT.
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Two questions: Are there any MBA programs that are known for having good public policy classes/partnerships? Is 34 too old to start an MBA? I'm planning on 2014, by then I'll have 3.5 years business experience in HR and marketing at a Beijing shipping firm and about 4 years teaching experience, not sure this really makes me qualified for an "executive" program however.
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menino posted:Two questions: I think my program at Johns Hopkins has a dual-degree option with SAIS in Washington DC. I'll double check and get back to you. I know SAIS does joint MBA-MA programs with Wharton, Tuck, and INSEAD, but I'm not sure about Carey. Second, you can usually get into an exec program with around 8 years of experience, It's up to you how you want to structure it. 34 is not too old. There are about a dozen folks in their mid 30's in my current program.
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Hired_Sellout posted:I think my program at Johns Hopkins has a dual-degree option with SAIS in Washington DC. I'll double check and get back to you. I know SAIS does joint MBA-MA programs with Wharton, Tuck, and INSEAD, but I'm not sure about Carey. Great thanks for the info, anything you could come up with is appreciated. e: A somewhat strange question: I have a parent working for one of the universities I plan on applying to (actually my top choice), and they have a lot of goodwill there, although in a completely unrelated dept/field. Would mentioning this be bad form/hurt my chances?
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