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lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

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Voice is fine but becomes another "thing" to maintain on my girlfriend's already unused Gmail account. I'd rather something from Verizon or something that doesn't need an account.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I use voice only for voicemail. It works great because I unlock my screen, click a button and then I can read its best guess at a transcription of the voicemail. So I can easily screen my voicemails and don't have to deal with "You have SEVEN saved voicemails you have THREE new voicemails, first voicemail" and then have to guess whether it's 7 that deletes and 9 saves, or 9 deletes and seven saves.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

traveling midget posted:

Voice is fine but becomes another "thing" to maintain on my girlfriend's already unused Gmail account. I'd rather something from Verizon or something that doesn't need an account.

There's nothing you need to 'maintain,' and if she already has a gmail account it's painless to set up. And it's by far the best visual voicemail service available, and it's free, and in ICS, even integrates right into the stock dialer for voicemails. There couldn't be a better option. It's instant push notifications too, so no delay getting your voicemails.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

AppleCobbler posted:

it works like poo poo on anything aside from sprint?

It works just fine. Granted I ported my number to Google before starting my service with Verizon. Could you elaborate on how it works as you say, "like poo poo"? I get all my voice mail and text messages the moment they occur. I maybe missing out on MMS messages, but it's not a deal breaker as I rarely use it and prefer other methods for people to send me pictures anyways.

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

kitten smoothie posted:

Oh boy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/your-money/beware-of-cramming-on-your-cellphone-bill-the-haggler.html?_r=3&ref=technology

Meanwhile I went to a Verizon shop to talk to someone about it, and they couldn't tell me anything since they can't seem to see charges until they show up on a bill. My bill cycle isn't until April 20 so I get to wait a while to find out.

They did put a "premium message block" on my line but who knows if that'll stop these guys from charging me first.
The premium message block will 100% kill the subscription and any similar poo poo. Call customer service *611 and have them check unbilled usage. Policy is to credit PSMS charges if disputed.

If you ever get a text from a 5 or 6 digit short code number talking about $9.99 / month immediately reply with STOP. Unless you really want to pay for their awesome services.

BlackCircle
Oct 21, 2005

I did Nazi that butt coming
So Galaxy Nexus owners, is the phone as awesome as all the reviews make it out to be? I'm thinking of picking one up today since I like the big screen and HD screen. As long as the battery life doesn't suck compared to my Thunderbolt it should be better in every way right?

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

BlackCircle posted:

So Galaxy Nexus owners, is the phone as awesome as all the reviews make it out to be? I'm thinking of picking one up today since I like the big screen and HD screen. As long as the battery life doesn't suck compared to my Thunderbolt it should be better in every way right?

I really like mine. I had one have a charge port go tits up. But the replacements been solid and the other ran fine. Battery is OK. Its not super but I can make it through a day.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy
I love mine. Beautiful phone, very fast and smooth, feels good in the hand.

AppleCobbler
Feb 8, 2003
remember that time I was just chilling out and definitely not having a massive meltdown? right guys? guys??? :laugh:

Penguissimo posted:

Even if this were true of the call forwarding and texting features that are only marginally improved by Sprint integration,* you know that voicemail works fine and identically on any carrier, right? You can even sign up for the voicemail service without signing up for any of the rest of Google Voice.


* it's not, these also work fine on other carriers with MMS and lack of free mobile-to-mobile minutes being the only issues

I've had 5 different Android phones (SGS, Atrix, Thunderbolt, Bionic, and Gnex) and the only one where Voice actually ever worked on the phone was the T-Bolt. Everytime I've tried to set it as the stock voicemail, the 'changing settings' loading wheel comes up and then never goes away; then all my voicemail gets routed to my regular voicemail, yet when I dial 0 or hit the voicemail button on the dial pad it takes me to the google voice number which tells me that there's no new vmails. And the visual voicemail doesn't do anything either. I've tried clearing settings and redoing things from the GV website, as well as clearing out all settings on the phone to do it as well. This is even with a stock unrooted Galaxy Nexus, a supposed developer device that should play nice with all of google's gadgets.

WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

BlackCircle posted:

So Galaxy Nexus owners, is the phone as awesome as all the reviews make it out to be? I'm thinking of picking one up today since I like the big screen and HD screen. As long as the battery life doesn't suck compared to my Thunderbolt it should be better in every way right?

It's good. The signal is worse than the Thunderbolt and battery life is not always great. It isn't perfect out of the box, so if you don't like tinkering consider the RAZR Maxx. Make sure you get it at Costco for the lower price and free extended battery, which is actually a better fit for the phone.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

AppleCobbler posted:

I've had 5 different Android phones (SGS, Atrix, Thunderbolt, Bionic, and Gnex) and the only one where Voice actually ever worked on the phone was the T-Bolt. Everytime I've tried to set it as the stock voicemail, the 'changing settings' loading wheel comes up and then never goes away; then all my voicemail gets routed to my regular voicemail, yet when I dial 0 or hit the voicemail button on the dial pad it takes me to the google voice number which tells me that there's no new vmails. And the visual voicemail doesn't do anything either. I've tried clearing settings and redoing things from the GV website, as well as clearing out all settings on the phone to do it as well. This is even with a stock unrooted Galaxy Nexus, a supposed developer device that should play nice with all of google's gadgets.

That's...huh. :stare: Not sure what's going on. I'm not sure what's going wrong with you. That "changing settings" bug hasn't been around since the OG Droid for me, but even when it was, just rebooting caused the settings to stick. And if the voicemails are going to your carrier VM rather than GV, it sounds like you never entered the provisioning code.

Not trying to be a dick, but if you've had this problem on five phones, it sounds like you might be doing something wrong.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
I had the same thing with my SGS as cobbler, yet it still worked for me. It would still forward to GV.

No idea what the heck happened to cobbler.

The issue I have is that if a call is forwarded from GV and rings my other phones, if the voicemail picks up on the other phones it goes there instead of into the GV voicemail.

So call -> GV# -> workphone -> workphone VM box sometimes.

blackflare
Dec 6, 2004

I am a Purrrfect Princess

I got a galaxy nexus and I love the hell out of it. The battery life turned from poo poo to amazing when I installed a custom rom too (liquidsmooth). The stock 4.0 was awful about battery management for some reason.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

AppleCobbler posted:

I've had 5 different Android phones (SGS, Atrix, Thunderbolt, Bionic, and Gnex) and the only one where Voice actually ever worked on the phone was the T-Bolt. Everytime I've tried to set it as the stock voicemail, the 'changing settings' loading wheel comes up and then never goes away; then all my voicemail gets routed to my regular voicemail, yet when I dial 0 or hit the voicemail button on the dial pad it takes me to the google voice number which tells me that there's no new vmails. And the visual voicemail doesn't do anything either. I've tried clearing settings and redoing things from the GV website, as well as clearing out all settings on the phone to do it as well. This is even with a stock unrooted Galaxy Nexus, a supposed developer device that should play nice with all of google's gadgets.

Verizon doesn't support the automated system for changing your poo poo to GVoice, you have to manually do it by dialing the * codes for call forwarding types (there's 3) and setting them to your google voice number. Took 10 seconds of Googling and 10 seconds of work to get it all working flawlessly.

cuedotcom
Jun 16, 2009

:getout:
How many gigs would an mmo and let's say ventrilo eat up per month? And also, I'm grandfathered into unlimited data, so does that mean I'm still eligible for the $30 per/mo unlimited hotspot?

Considering grabbing a 4G phone and doing the hotspot as a primary internet source. I just moved into a 1br studio apt and really would love to avoid paying cox if at all possible. I would just grab a wifi NIC card for my desktop. I'm curious to know if I could get away with it..

Verizon's 4G here is faster than Cox Cable's 30mbit down line. Which goes for $52.99/mo last time I checked? I have seen Verizon pull down 30+ consistently though speed test.net and up to 49. Assuming it I could actually pull it off, what long effects would it inflict on the actual phone?

Aside from that, I'm all over google music. I pry do 3 gigs a month on my DROID X .Would most likely start using netflix again too.

Does the data used from the hotspot feature show up as a combined total under the data usage widget?

cuedotcom fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Apr 6, 2012

slovach
Oct 6, 2005
Lennie Fuckin' Briscoe
If I have unlimited 3g will I get grandfathered into a 4g plan when I upgrade or am I going to end up paying even more yet? I think 4g is my only hope.

It was fine when I got my phone, but 3g is pretty much useless now. It's incredibly temperamental and movement seems to gently caress it even worse. I can't even stream music while out on a run. My latest speed test after an attempt? Almost 3000 ping and 17 kbit/s down. :downs:

I used to stream no problem while driving (as in a year ago) but now unless the planets are aligned or I'm using it at a stupid time, it is basically non functional. A friend confirms the same thing and that it's not just me. I'm like 20 minutes from NYC so it's not like I'm in the middle of nowhere.

what the hell

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

slovach posted:

If I have unlimited 3g will I get grandfathered into a 4g plan when I upgrade or am I going to end up paying even more yet? I think 4g is my only hope.

It was fine when I got my phone, but 3g is pretty much useless now. It's incredibly temperamental and movement seems to gently caress it even worse. I can't even stream music while out on a run. My latest speed test after an attempt? Almost 3000 ping and 17 kbit/s down. :downs:

I used to stream no problem while driving (as in a year ago) but now unless the planets are aligned or I'm using it at a stupid time, it is basically non functional. A friend confirms the same thing and that it's not just me. I'm like 20 minutes from NYC so it's not like I'm in the middle of nowhere.

what the hell


You'll keep your unlimited data.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

cuedotnet posted:

Does the data used from the hotspot feature show up as a combined total under the data usage widget?
No. They're broken out in two sections -- iirc, they're called "Data" and "Broadband Connect data".

Also, note that any data used by the phone while the hotspot is active is considered hotspot data.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

EbolaIvory posted:

You'll keep your unlimited data.

Yep. additionally Ebola if your new plan doesn't show unlimited for whatever accidental reason when you upgrade, just call in and they can fix it in like 30 seconds over the phone.

bitprophet
Jul 22, 2004
Taco Defender
Is there a known issue getting iPhone 4S's onto Verizon's network? I've found some vague mentions of iOS 5.1 causing problems in this area, but nothing concrete or useful.

I signed up for VZW via Apple Store yesterday afternoon when buying a (iOS 5.1) 4S. Signup went OK; got the "your number has ported" text message & email this morning; and calls/texts to my number now reach the new phone (& old one now says No Service.)

However, even though I have signal bars, there's no "Verizon" label. The network panel in Settings says "Network: Not Available", and when off of wifi it thinks it's roaming (get "data roaming" popup etc.)

Resetting network settings and rebooting the phone normally don't make a difference.

Figured I'd check here before bugging support :shobon:

decoy octopus
Oct 26, 2005

You fat Loco, you fat

bitprophet posted:

Is there a known issue getting iPhone 4S's onto Verizon's network? I've found some vague mentions of iOS 5.1 causing problems in this area, but nothing concrete or useful.

I signed up for VZW via Apple Store yesterday afternoon when buying a (iOS 5.1) 4S. Signup went OK; got the "your number has ported" text message & email this morning; and calls/texts to my number now reach the new phone (& old one now says No Service.)

However, even though I have signal bars, there's no "Verizon" label. The network panel in Settings says "Network: Not Available", and when off of wifi it thinks it's roaming (get "data roaming" popup etc.)

Resetting network settings and rebooting the phone normally don't make a difference.

Figured I'd check here before bugging support :shobon:

try doing a *228 Option 1 sometimes iPhone + porting = weird issues. If that doesn't do anything or you've already tried this I'd hit support up

bitprophet
Jul 22, 2004
Taco Defender

decoy octopus posted:

try doing a *228 Option 1 sometimes iPhone + porting = weird issues. If that doesn't do anything or you've already tried this I'd hit support up

I guess that's what I was missing -- worked like a charm, Verizon badge appears, 3G shows up when wifi is off, seems to work OK. Thanks a ton! :)

rugbert
Mar 26, 2003
yea, fuck you
So I'm due for an upgrade on my phone. I was thinking about either the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus. After dealing with the Droid 2 for the past year I refuse to buy another Motorola until its possible to install a custom ROM like CM7.

But right now the Rezound is only $50 and I can find the Galaxy Nexus for $230 the specs look pretty similar so Im leaning towards the Rezound to save money. I dont really care for sense UI tho so is it possible to install a custom ROM like CM7 or ICS on it?

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

rugbert posted:

I dont really care for sense UI tho so is it possible to install a custom ROM like CM7 or ICS on it?
It's not a matter of whether it's possible, the real question is the degree of developer support. And here's the deal with that:

1. It's far easier for developers to support AOSP devices (such as the Galaxy Nexus) than non-AOSP devices (such as the Rezound).

2. Because of #1, any non-AOSP device released on a carrier that has (or is getting) an AOSP device is going to be far less well supported, unless there's some compelling feature of it to retain developer interest. Otherwise, for the most part, developers are going to flock to the easier supported AOSP device.

If custom ROM capability is your top priority, it's worth the extra $180 to get the Galaxy Nexus.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Maybe an odd question: Wife and I are out of contract with AT&T next month, are switching to Verizon. I was planning on getting our phones/service through Amazon wireless, but my wife wants a plain-old, basic phone (I'm looking at Galaxy Nexus). Amazon has like 5, but they're cheap, while Verizon has a ton that are seem pretty pricey.

Is there any middle ground to finding her an inexpensive phone?

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.
I personally love the Nexus, but I still bought the Rezound on the last sale. Wasn't worth the money to me. That's the key right there.

ExcessBLarg is right, you want the Nexus above all else if the Android ROM roulette is important to you. It absolutely is. Nexus= ROM developer joy toy for Verizon. HTC often is merely ok with development based on what I know. Rezound has a developer following, albeit it took a while.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
I love my rezound for what it is (and also sunk costs, etc), but I agree that at this point I'd suggest a nexus to everyone hands down. Before? Not at all, considering how unstable that phone was when it came out.

vVV: the HD screen difference is nonexistent. the camera quality on the rezound is very, very good though. also VV: I agree the lack of updates is hurting basically every phone since manufacturers dont give a poo poo.

notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Apr 9, 2012

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

rugbert posted:

So I'm due for an upgrade on my phone. I was thinking about either the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus. After dealing with the Droid 2 for the past year I refuse to buy another Motorola until its possible to install a custom ROM like CM7.

It is possible to install custom ROMs on the Rezound, and it has ICS either out already or very close to it. I'd recommend it, especially with the price difference. It is also smaller and has an HD screen, with a much better camera than the Galaxy Nexus.

However, the Galaxy Nexus is going to get all the Android updates until the next Nexus comes out. The Rezound will only get a few. Gauge how important that is for you, and you'll know the answer for yourself.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.
I wouldn't take a Nexus over a Rezound simply for the camera.

If you are going to get marginal battery life, might as well have a kick-rear end camera and a micro-sd slot.

That is, after you return your Rezound 3 times until you get one that works properly.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


notwithoutmyanus posted:

Before? Not at all, considering how unstable that phone was when it came out.


What does this even mean? The phone hasn't been updated since it came out so how could it have gotten better?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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bull3964 posted:

What does this even mean? The phone hasn't been updated since it came out so how could it have gotten better?

Yes it has. 4.0.2 was the first update for the galaxy nexus

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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LaptopGun posted:

I personally love the Nexus, but I still bought the Rezound on the last sale. Wasn't worth the money to me. That's the key right there.

ExcessBLarg is right, you want the Nexus above all else if the Android ROM roulette is important to you. It absolutely is. Nexus= ROM developer joy toy for Verizon. HTC often is merely ok with development based on what I know. Rezound has a developer following, albeit it took a while.

How cheap was the Rezound? The Nexus has been $99 through Amazon for several months now.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Auron posted:

Yes it has. 4.0.2 was the first update for the galaxy nexus

The Verizon Galaxy Nexus and 4.0.2 launched on the same day, December 15th. It may not have shipped with it, but it can effectively be considered the shipping version since you got the OTA within a few hours of activating the phone.

If the phone wasn't recommendable at launch due to stability issues, nothing has happened since to change that.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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bull3964 posted:

The Verizon Galaxy Nexus and 4.0.2 launched on the same day, December 15th. It may not have shipped with it, but it can effectively be considered the shipping version since you got the OTA within a few hours of activating the phone.

If the phone wasn't recommendable at launch due to stability issues, nothing has happened since to change that.

Yeah it was an OTA, but I never heard of any stability issues, which is what I believe you are getting at in your previous post. Just radio issues (which there still is).

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Auron posted:

Yeah it was an OTA, but I never heard of any stability issues, which is what I believe you are getting at in your previous post. Just radio issues (which there still is).

I was talking about what notwithoutmyanus posted. He said he couldn't recommend the phone initially due to issues but could now. That statement didn't make sense to me as the Galaxy Nexus you walk in and buy today is the same experience as the one that launched back in December. It hasn't yet been updated to make whatever issues that were referred to go away.

Now for me, I won't be able to recommend the phone to non-power users until after 4.0.5 comes out. The phone on 4.0.2 was unusable for me and I know of at least one person I initially recommended it to returning it in a short period for those same reasons.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Auron posted:

Yeah it was an OTA, but I never heard of any stability issues, which is what I believe you are getting at in your previous post. Just radio issues (which there still is).

Mine does have stability issues. It has a habit of restarting a lot. I wish they would hurry up and release 4.0.4 for Verizon already.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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bull3964 posted:

I was talking about what notwithoutmyanus posted. He said he couldn't recommend the phone initially due to issues but could now. That statement didn't make sense to me as the Galaxy Nexus you walk in and buy today is the same experience as the one that launched back in December. It hasn't yet been updated to make whatever issues that were referred to go away.

Now for me, I won't be able to recommend the phone to non-power users until after 4.0.5 comes out. The phone on 4.0.2 was unusable for me and I know of at least one person I initially recommended it to returning it in a short period for those same reasons.

Yeah it does seem like one of those YMMV phones...which is completely unacceptable. I
"just" get the dropped data/voice 3-4 times a day even with the leaked 4.0.4. Too be honest I am a little disappointed in my purchase overall, although it was only $99...and switching to Verizon's lovely/expensive plans to get LTE. I'm going to give it some time until the next iphone comes out, if its not ironed out by then I'm selling it for sure and ditching Android for good most likely.

And to those that say "flash xxx rom", no, that doesn't solve the radio issues, and never will until official radio updates are released.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I've had a Galaxy Nexus since February and it has been an absolute disappointment for me (coming from an EVO). The signal is garbage, it drops connection constantly, locks up when transferring data with MTP (I had to use adb to push my music), and is generally a pain in the rear end. The Google-promised fast updates have been nonexistent, and they can't even get an official bugfix update out to fix the numerous and well-documented problems the phone has.

If you look at the different Android forums out there, there are people who have done three or four exchanges to get a functioning phone.

If you want a phone so you can ride the ROM merry-go-round and play with a phone, it's fine. If you want a phone so you can actually do things with it besides play with a phone, stay away.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

Tedious_Bastard posted:

I've had a Galaxy Nexus since February and it has been an absolute disappointment for me (coming from an EVO). The signal is garbage, it drops connection constantly, locks up when transferring data with MTP (I had to use adb to push my music), and is generally a pain in the rear end. The Google-promised fast updates have been nonexistent, and they can't even get an official bugfix update out to fix the numerous and well-documented problems the phone has.

If you look at the different Android forums out there, there are people who have done three or four exchanges to get a functioning phone.

If you want a phone so you can ride the ROM merry-go-round and play with a phone, it's fine. If you want a phone so you can actually do things with it besides play with a phone, stay away.

And that's the magic/hell of phones these days...I've had basically zero issues with mine since I got it on launch day. It's a little slight on battery, but I have a number of things pushing to it at all times so it's something I have control over to a certain extent (and can purchase a Maxx if this gets to be a concern). The transition from wifi to network, or vice versa, has been solid a good 95% of the time. My home's in a soft signal area, but even with 0/1 bars during calls it's better than I've gotten with previous phones.

My gripe is that I purchased a google device (I know this is debatable) and they really haven't done anything to improve it since launch. This, when my Xoom tablet's been brought up from 3.x to 4.0.4, bypassing the GNex in the time I've owned the phone. I hang this more on Verizon though, perhaps unfounded, but until the updates start rolling out it's on their head.

Just a counter opinion - it's natural to expect that our own experiences will cloud our likelihood of recommending a product or not, so it's important to instead look at how many people are recommending it, not just one person or another REALLY liking or REALLY hating it.

Then again, I came from a Samsung Moment on Sprint, so a quality free on contract flip phone would likely get a thumbs up from me after that nightmare...

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Nathan Explosion
Aug 14, 2006
A whole new rainbow of pain!
Verizon flipped the 4g switch in York, Pa today. Now I have fast internet at work. It is truly a blessed day.

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