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gwarm01
Apr 27, 2010

I'm looking for some quick advice. We're making the switch over to Verizon but I can't decide on which phone to get my wife. Can anyone give me some input?

There's the Galaxy Nexus which looks sexy and runs ICS, plus it's $79 on Amazon Wireless right now.

Then there's the Razr which also looks sexy, and it only $70.

Finally the Razr Maxx, which apparently has a battery sent from heaven. The catch is that it is $199.

She claims she doesn't really care which phone I pick for her, she just needs a new one. I just don't want to pick one that will end up causing a lot of trouble like her Evo Shift has given her.

So, what are the general pros/cons for these phones? Does anyone have experience with all of them? Any regrets after purchasing one?

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Goon Matchmaker
Oct 23, 2003

I play too much EVE-Online

gwarm01 posted:

So, what are the general pros/cons for these phones? Does anyone have experience with all of them? Any regrets after purchasing one?

Gnex will get updates for years from the community. Battery life is OK. Screen is amazing. It's my favorite and the one I bought.

There's really no point in buying a razr.

Razr maxx is a razr with a gigantic battery bolted on to it. You're at the mercy of Verizon for updates. Played with it, but I don't like Blur. I'd rather have stock android.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

gwarm01 posted:

I'm looking for some quick advice. We're making the switch over to Verizon but I can't decide on which phone to get my wife. Can anyone give me some input?

There's the Galaxy Nexus which looks sexy and runs ICS, plus it's $79 on Amazon Wireless right now.

Then there's the Razr which also looks sexy, and it only $70.

Finally the Razr Maxx, which apparently has a battery sent from heaven. The catch is that it is $199.

She claims she doesn't really care which phone I pick for her, she just needs a new one. I just don't want to pick one that will end up causing a lot of trouble like her Evo Shift has given her.

So, what are the general pros/cons for these phones? Does anyone have experience with all of them? Any regrets after purchasing one?

Just get her the Razr Maxx. She will literally never complain about battery life again.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


gwarm01 posted:

I'm looking for some quick advice. We're making the switch over to Verizon but I can't decide on which phone to get my wife. Can anyone give me some input?

There's the Galaxy Nexus which looks sexy and runs ICS, plus it's $79 on Amazon Wireless right now.

Then there's the Razr which also looks sexy, and it only $70.

Finally the Razr Maxx, which apparently has a battery sent from heaven. The catch is that it is $199.

She claims she doesn't really care which phone I pick for her, she just needs a new one. I just don't want to pick one that will end up causing a lot of trouble like her Evo Shift has given her.

So, what are the general pros/cons for these phones? Does anyone have experience with all of them? Any regrets after purchasing one?
Don't listen to that one guy, if you get her a GN you will literally end up in divorce court. There's a reason it went from $299 to $79 in three months.

If she really wants an Android phone, get her a RAZR MAXX.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

Tedious_Bastard posted:

Don't listen to that one guy, if you get her a GN you will literally end up in divorce court. There's a reason it went from $299 to $79 in three months.

I'm pretty sure this is a joke, but it's still 299 from Verizon.

gwarm01
Apr 27, 2010

It is $79 on Amazon. And I already bought it. drat it!

Henchman 21
Apr 3, 2005

HENCH 4 LIFE
Im trying really hard not to pick up the Nexus until i find out what is going on with the Galaxy S3 and whatever phone LG is putting out in the next few months. Im sure Verizon won't get either but i know as soon as I jump and buy a new phone something awesome is going to come out.

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream

gwarm01 posted:

I'm looking for some quick advice. We're making the switch over to Verizon but I can't decide on which phone to get my wife. Can anyone give me some input?

There's the Galaxy Nexus which looks sexy and runs ICS, plus it's $79 on Amazon Wireless right now.

Then there's the Razr which also looks sexy, and it only $70.

Finally the Razr Maxx, which apparently has a battery sent from heaven. The catch is that it is $199.

She claims she doesn't really care which phone I pick for her, she just needs a new one. I just don't want to pick one that will end up causing a lot of trouble like her Evo Shift has given her.

So, what are the general pros/cons for these phones? Does anyone have experience with all of them? Any regrets after purchasing one?

I think the general consensus for a phone that will cause the least problems is the iPhone. It has lots of apps, great battery life, and all up-to-date software. The in-store support from Apple Stores is top notch and their Applecare+ warranty is a solid deal. She'll also like the accessories selection.

Buy a phone for your wife, not a phone for you to play around with that your wife uses.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Tedious_Bastard posted:

Don't listen to that one guy, if you get her a GN you will literally end up in divorce court. There's a reason it went from $299 to $79 in three months.

If she really wants an Android phone, get her a RAZR MAXX.

It's 229 on Amazon. It's only 79 if you start a new contract. It was also a dollar at one point for new contracts. It's just a gimmick to get people to start contracts.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


chupacabraTERROR posted:

I think the general consensus for a phone that will cause the least problems is the iPhone. It has lots of apps, great battery life, and all up-to-date software. The in-store support from Apple Stores is top notch and their Applecare+ warranty is a solid deal. She'll also like the accessories selection.

Buy a phone for your wife, not a phone for you to play around with that your wife uses.

This is really good advice. I got my wife an iPhone, and as a casual user she loves it. The Camera, Facebook, Texting, Calling and Battery Life are all good.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I'm serious about advising that guy to not get his wife a Galaxy Nexus. I live in a well-covered LTE market and being able to make a call or get a data connection at any given time time is a coin flip. It is plagued with instability issues, and Samsung's QC is garbage.

I'm upset that I left Sprint and my EVO for this piece of trash. It is the best mobile computer I've ever owned, but the worst phone I have ever owned.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Tedious_Bastard posted:

I'm serious about advising that guy to not get his wife a Galaxy Nexus. I live in a well-covered LTE market and being able to make a call or get a data connection at any given time time is a coin flip. It is plagued with instability issues, and Samsung's QC is garbage.

I'm upset that I left Sprint and my EVO for this piece of trash. It is the best mobile computer I've ever owned, but the worst phone I have ever owned.

Haha I came from the EXACT same scenario...perfect running, brick solid EVO 4G. Best phone I've ever owned. I even paid a $55 ETF to take advantage of the $99 Amazon deal because I thought it was going to be a limited time. Damnit.

Guy with the wife...buy her an iPhone, seriously. Chicks love iphones. If you really want 4G....Razr MAXX

Auron fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Apr 11, 2012

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002
My fiance had an Evo 4G and was always handing it to me saying, "here, fix this." Now, I can't pry her iPhone from her hands. Also, she can work an extended shift without taking her changer with her.

My next phone will probably be an iPhone 5 of the Sprint Nexus doesn't tempt me before that.

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
As a counterpoint, my Galaxy Nexus has been fantastic. My wife got a Bionic a couple weeks ago and has had signal issues and terrible battery life, Thunderbolt-esque even. I know Motorola gets a lot of love from some people here, but so far I'm not too impressed.

You guys with Nexus horror stories really should probably sell them and grab an iPhone, I don't think you'd lose too much money in that flip.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Ciabatta posted:

As a counterpoint, my Galaxy Nexus has been fantastic. My wife got a Bionic a couple weeks ago and has had signal issues and terrible battery life, Thunderbolt-esque even. I know Motorola gets a lot of love from some people here, but so far I'm not too impressed.

You guys with Nexus horror stories really should probably sell them and grab an iPhone, I don't think you'd lose too much money in that flip.

Don't get me wrong I really like my Galaxy Nexus, HOWEVER, it does have its fair share of problems that STILL haven't been ironed out yet, noteably the constant data/voice dropping which seems to be evident in pretty much every phone (as its a software issue). It is really sporadic though, somedays I'm perfectly fine, others constantly dropping signal for no reason. Also battery life is horrific if you don't limit what apps can do.

Its just hard to recommend a buggy phone to someone who most likely isn't all that tech savvy, isn't going to be flashing custom ROMS/kernels, etc. I just flashed LiquidSmooth and Franco kernel on mine and it seems to have remedied the battery life issue other than when the screen is on, which really can't be helped.

I've said it before, but I'm going to see how the software is up until the next iPhone is released...I'm sure it will be ironed out by then. I like my LTE.

Auron fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 11, 2012

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

Ciabatta posted:

As a counterpoint, my Galaxy Nexus has been fantastic. My wife got a Bionic a couple weeks ago and has had signal issues and terrible battery life, Thunderbolt-esque even. I know Motorola gets a lot of love from some people here, but so far I'm not too impressed.

You guys with Nexus horror stories really should probably sell them and grab an iPhone, I don't think you'd lose too much money in that flip.

You wont see a lot of Bionic love. It still hasn't been fixed correctly with its "no internet" problems.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
My wife and I each have a Gnex and it's been pretty good for us. I'd love for 4.0.5 to loving push already, but the phone's been a good experience for both of us.

Of course, I thankfully don't have to worry so much about her being clueless with it. She was even using Linux on her desktop before I ever bothered with it. :allears:

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Mighty Horse posted:

You wont see a lot of Bionic love. It still hasn't been fixed correctly with its "no internet" problems.

Well goddamn it. I thought Motorola's whole thing was lovely screens but reliable and functioning, to complement Samsung's role.

As a little lol on the side, I tried to get her to let me buy her an iPhone, but she's played with her friend's and didn't like it, and her friend is always complaining about it. So I tried to get her the most reliable/stable Android and, welp. It is stable I guess, not a single freeze or battery pull, so still an upgrade on the last phone.

gwarm01
Apr 27, 2010

Yeah, an iPhone was never an option for me either. My wife likes to rage against popular things, and she refused to even look at the 4s. Anyway, the Nexus should be here Friday. We'll test it out and see how it works for us. I went through Amazon Wireless, can I assume they give a grace period in which you can swap phones? If she has the connectivity issues then I wouldn't mind dropping a little extra cash because that's the main reason we were leaving Sprint.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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gwarm01 posted:

Yeah, an iPhone was never an option for me either. My wife likes to rage against popular things, and she refused to even look at the 4s. Anyway, the Nexus should be here Friday. We'll test it out and see how it works for us. I went through Amazon Wireless, can I assume they give a grace period in which you can swap phones? If she has the connectivity issues then I wouldn't mind dropping a little extra cash because that's the main reason we were leaving Sprint.

I believe you get 14 days to return. I think you will enjoy the GNex/ICS overall, hopefully you don't get too much data dropping but expect it every now and again.

jfreder
Feb 27, 2008
What is the data dropping problem? I don't think I've ever experienced that.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Meldonox posted:

My wife and I each have a Gnex and it's been pretty good for us. I'd love for 4.0.5 to loving push already, but the phone's been a good experience for both of us.

Of course, I thankfully don't have to worry so much about her being clueless with it. She was even using Linux on her desktop before I ever bothered with it. :allears:

This is the same experience we've had. I have a launch day nexus and my wife's got hers a few weeks after. I'm running custom roms but the wife is stock, rooted. No issues besides localized 4G issues. She came from an ailing Droid x so this is a huge improvement for her.

That being said, if the Note/Journal ever comes out for VZW, I'd switch in a heartbeat. I'd even strongly consider a LTE iPhone.

Vintimus Prime
Apr 24, 2008

DERRRRRPPP what are picture threads for????

Looks like VZW is jumping on the upgrade fee bus:

http://gizmodo.com/5901023/no-more-free-phone-upgrades-verizons-30-fee-starts-april-22nd

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


jfreder posted:

What is the data dropping problem? I don't think I've ever experienced that.

The phone just suddenly decides it doesn't want to transmit or receive data, and toggling airplane mode to reset the radio does nothing (it never enters airplane mode). It has to be rebooted.

I've even seen this happen on wifi.

Edit: This is pretty unacceptable too.



Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 11, 2012

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Yeah it happens no matter what, I'm usually on wifi at work all day and I'll see no bars with an x in the middle for cell reception. Oh I also forgot the wifi drivers must suck rear end as well because range is not very good.

Auron fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 11, 2012

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Tedious_Bastard posted:

Edit: This is pretty unacceptable too.


Not to discount the issues the Nexus does have, but that is pretty extreme. Was the screen on that whole time at least? Was brightness set to full? Were you getting no signal?

Also, you and Auron's description of data dropping is pretty crazy, too. I haven't ever ever had data loss requiring a reboot or airplane mode toggle. I did have a couple times soon after launch where I had data problems, but Verizon's network was also dropping out a bit then so I'm not totally sure it was the phone. I'm not on 4.0.2 anymore, so maybe all your problems will go away once the update gets pushed someday? v:shobon:v

I don't really get all the variability between individual phones of the same model. Is it all natural variability in the production of the internal components? Did you guys slam your phone against a table before turning it on the first time (understandable, it is an Android after all)? Is each Nexus beautifully hand-crafted by a Korean artisan?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Brightness was set to the barely-readable automatic brightness setting and the signal was 2-3 bars. This is a full signal location for a guy here who has a RAZR.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
It seems like after a mad rush of phones there hasn't really been anything new lately. I'm with a Bionic right now and it's fine for me, no issues really but I'm getting the itch to get something new. I haven't really been paying attention, is there anything new coming out in the next month or so?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Ciabatta posted:

Not to discount the issues the Nexus does have, but that is pretty extreme. Was the screen on that whole time at least? Was brightness set to full? Were you getting no signal?

Also, you and Auron's description of data dropping is pretty crazy, too. I haven't ever ever had data loss requiring a reboot or airplane mode toggle. I did have a couple times soon after launch where I had data problems, but Verizon's network was also dropping out a bit then so I'm not totally sure it was the phone. I'm not on 4.0.2 anymore, so maybe all your problems will go away once the update gets pushed someday? v:shobon:v

I don't really get all the variability between individual phones of the same model. Is it all natural variability in the production of the internal components? Did you guys slam your phone against a table before turning it on the first time (understandable, it is an Android after all)? Is each Nexus beautifully hand-crafted by a Korean artisan?

Look up the Nexus data dropping problems, its a pretty big issue. I will admit it did help a little bit flashing the leaked 4.0.4 update, but did not solve the problem. Also, I never had to reboot mine, data would come back after a minute or two...or 10.

edit: when you try to look up the data dropping issue you will probably see GSM users having even bigger issues with it since the 4.0.4 update.

Auron fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 11, 2012

Ciabatta
Aug 20, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Auron posted:

Look up the Nexus data dropping problems, its a pretty big issue. I will admit it did help a little bit flashing the leaked 4.0.4 update, but did not solve the problem. Also, I never had to reboot mine, data would come back after a minute or two...or 10.

edit: when you try to look up the data dropping issue you will probably see GSM users having even bigger issues with it since the 4.0.4 update.

Yeah, I'm not denying there are issues, I just don't understand how random the issues seem to be. Like, as I understand it, everyone with a G2x eventually had it go bad on them, or every iPhone 4 had the silly antenna configuration. In any case, I'm sure the next update will make everyone's problems go away :downs:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


The GN is manufactured in at least two separate facilities in China and Korea. Don't forget about the original SGS phones with bad GPS antenna solders, too. Two given phones from the same line would have different performance/lock speeds.

SpacedOut
Dec 1, 2004

It's got planets and stuff.

Vintimus Prime posted:

Looks like VZW is jumping on the upgrade fee bus:

http://gizmodo.com/5901023/no-more-free-phone-upgrades-verizons-30-fee-starts-april-22nd

I think it's time to use some of the vacation time I've been banking up, beginning April 22nd… :smith:

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
I'm a big dummy. Does this mean that I get my free upgrade still? Cuz it sure isn't free if I'm tossin' 30$ at them :mad:

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

MeinGott posted:

I'm a big dummy. Does this mean that I get my free upgrade still? Cuz it sure isn't free if I'm tossin' 30$ at them :mad:

Do it before the 22nd and there won't be a fee, if I'm understanding this correctly. I doubt anyone will be grandfathered into not having to pay the upgrade fee.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
So if I buy my phone without contract I can skip this fee right? I guess it's time to upgrade one last time before the 22nd since I'm out of contract.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I would like an agent to look me in the eye and tell me they are going to risk losing a contract re-up over $30.

The fee is utter bullshit, especially now that they've made $299 the new pricepoint for top of the line phones.

Considering the removal of new every two, renewing a contract on Verizon has jumped almost $100 in the past two years. Explain to me again why I'm paying Verizon for the privilege of being locked into a contract with them?

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS
Because the other choices are worse?

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

bull3964 posted:

I would like an agent to look me in the eye and tell me they are going to risk losing a contract re-up over $30.

The fee is utter bullshit, especially now that they've made $299 the new pricepoint for top of the line phones.

Considering the removal of new every two, renewing a contract on Verizon has jumped almost $100 in the past two years. Explain to me again why I'm paying Verizon for the privilege of being locked into a contract with them?

Unlimited data.

Edit: I think I misread your last statement. With that said, I have no idea.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

bull3964 posted:

I would like an agent to look me in the eye and tell me they are going to risk losing a contract re-up over $30.

The fee is utter bullshit, especially now that they've made $299 the new pricepoint for top of the line phones.

Considering the removal of new every two, renewing a contract on Verizon has jumped almost $100 in the past two years. Explain to me again why I'm paying Verizon for the privilege of being locked into a contract with them?

Because its 6 bucks cheaper than ATT and Sprint/Tmobile is garbage for a lot of people.

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WeaselWeaz
Apr 11, 2004

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Biscuits and Gravy.

bull3964 posted:

I would like an agent to look me in the eye and tell me they are going to risk losing a contract re-up over $30.

That was part of why I left T-Mobile. The companies don't care. And, really, that $30 is probably something they'll waive in sales or as part of retention. But, yeah, it's bullshit. Just charge an extra $30 for phones instead of having an upgrade fee. That's at least respectable.

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