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programming is terrible.
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 09:29 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 08:43 |
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volkadav posted:~ effort poste ~ Agreed
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 09:40 |
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volkadav posted:Say what you will about Java, it puts a hard upper limit on how completely insane you can be (sure there's a FactoryFactoryFactory but that code is still easier to read than somebody who thought it would be cool to write the monthly payroll cron job as one ten thousand character regexp or whatever the gently caress cat-on-keyboard spew you can find in the worst perl codebases). You haven't used enough java if you believe there is an upper limit to lovely code within it.
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 10:15 |
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Anal Tributary posted:idk i'm trying to pick and choose my time
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 10:36 |
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My Linux Rig posted:objc is probably one of the easier languages out there, mostly cause of the tools backing it up compared to java?
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 13:03 |
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Sulk posted:is there a book on algorithms/data structures which is actually comprehensible without needing to know a shitload of math no lol
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 13:08 |
z0ratio fartboner posted:no welp
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 13:10 |
What was all that gibberish in the op
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 14:11 |
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just learn functional programming in archaic languages and then no one will be able to understand if you passed the fizzbuzz correctly
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 14:30 |
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there's a dude at work who can't loving shut up about git and at some point he used the phrase "the git revolution" unironically
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:23 |
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git more liuke git out
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:23 |
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I mean contrary to popular opinion I don't have a problem with git or anything but jesus christ dude
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:25 |
short of going directly to company websites and trying to track people down that way, what do you guys find to be the best places for finding job postings
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:28 |
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Sulk posted:short of going directly to company websites and trying to track people down that way, what do you guys find to be the best places for finding job postings my linkedin inbox
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:29 |
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j/k i never open my linkedin best job offers come from clients who have recommended me, or from people you randomly meet at a bar or something. i posted about a huuuge offer i got one day from a dude i had been talking with a couple of times but we both didnt know the other worked in IT as well. turned it down tho bc it seemed v difficult
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:31 |
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volkadav posted:~ effort poste ~ Unfortunately there are a lot of web developers out there who love the idea of thick clients in the browsers so you'll still have people forcing that idiotic idea down everyone's throats Hopefully nacl or something similiar will become standard
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:35 |
newreply.php posted:j/k i never open my linkedin i mentioned before that i was at a meetup thing for python users a couple nights ago, the only people who openly said they were hiring were still looking for people to do C#/F#/ASP so it had nothing at all to do with python, plus they said they did pair programming so i was even less interested the jobs here are almost all asp/java and i've tried throwing some resumes out to places in other cities, i think the problem is unless you're fresh out of college or really qualified it's harder for far away places to take a shot at you. i guess you can lie about your address but then if they want to bring you in it's an issue
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:36 |
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"mm-hmm i love thick clients" *mental image of a fat guy in a burger bun* - a cannibal
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:38 |
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Sulk posted:i mentioned before that i was at a meetup thing for python users a couple nights ago, the only people who openly said they were hiring were still looking for people to do C#/F#/ASP so it had nothing at all to do with python, plus they said they did pair programming so i was even less interested so why not do a java job? do some python work on your own to show off if you want a python job. ideally, learn a language for real men, such as C, or it's more evolved, smarter offshoot, Objective-C in conjunction with the wonderful Cocoa and CoaocoaTouch libraries
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:41 |
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javascript is bad for ui code. i cant even imagine trying to use it for server stuff.
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:42 |
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if ur in sf and are basically competent with js & python get me your resume
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:42 |
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newreply.php posted:compared to java? So really making an app in objc isn't harder than doing it in java
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:42 |
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My Linux Rig posted:java is probably easier since its syntax is pretty similiar to c, but objc has xcode backing it up which is pretty much the best suite of tools I've ever seen for making apps i dunno i do both and i think you are wrong. different strokes (my strokes are correct)
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:43 |
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Shaggar posted:javascript is bad for ui code. i cant even imagine trying to use it for server stuff.
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:44 |
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ya thats why web "development" sucks
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:45 |
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baxate posted:Honestly, you probably have a good shot at getting a job with the University IT department. They like to hire students. lol if you hire students at university to do anything IT other than deskside cjing
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:46 |
newreply.php posted:so why not do a java job? do some python work on your own to show off if you want a python job. i could, but when every time you read something/someone saying that java is miserable it becomes more and more of a turnoff to ever learn. i have a basic grasp of objective-c (though i need to work on learning actual design for ios at some point), but i was going to spend some time actually learning c itself because there's a lot of c stuff that you don't really need to touch in objective-C/ios dev. rotor i'd send you a resume (though i'm on the other side of the country) and a little thing i was working on that i uploaded to github but i don't know what level quantifies "competent"
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:47 |
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anyone actually usin websockets yet? seems like a cool thing
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:47 |
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why would anyone even do web development??? i mean whenever i need a web developed i just pay someone half my hourly rate while i do stuff i like to do?? idgi
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:47 |
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man, security ruins everything
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:48 |
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Sulk posted:welp look bro you can 'get' red-black trees and hashing and whatnot but you wont 'get' how to use them at scale on anything significant unless maths
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:50 |
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my feeling on math & programming is that if you didn't find at least of of: * linear algebra * number theory * calculus * discrete math interesting then you should probably look into a career as a plumber or an electrician or something, because those careers more closely resemble the kind of programming you'll end up doing if you don't like math.
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:54 |
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or "maths" if ur from some dingy little back alley of a country
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 15:55 |
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i fuckin love mathematic
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:02 |
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rotor posted:my feeling on math & programming is that if you didn't find at least of of: all of those are pretty cool things also so is algorithms
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:04 |
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Sulk posted:i could, but when every time you read something/someone saying that java is miserable it becomes more and more of a turnoff to ever learn. i have a basic grasp of objective-c (though i need to work on learning actual design for ios at some point), but i was going to spend some time actually learning c itself because there's a lot of c stuff that you don't really need to touch in objective-C/ios dev. learn the gently caress out of java, move to chicago, sell your soul to a trading firm, get paid 150-175k
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:05 |
trex eaterofcadrs posted:learn the gently caress out of java, move to chicago, sell your soul to a trading firm, get paid 150-175k upsides: money downsides: java, bulls, bears, blackhawks, white sox, cubs maybe i'll learn java. i dunno
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:08 |
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My Linux Rig posted:Hopefully nacl or something similiar will become standard lol nacl
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:12 |
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Rufo posted:i fuckin love mathematic nice1
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:12 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 08:43 |
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:learn the gently caress out of java, move to chicago, sell your soul to a trading firm, get paid 150-175k alternately just move to sf and get paid the same at some startup for just dickin around
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 16:13 |