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IOwnCalculus posted:And just in case he decides to point out that "LOOK AT THE RX8, THEY PUBLISH DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR THE AUTO AND MANUAL", it's because the auto RX8 gets a different, less-powerful, lower-RPM rotary Same with the Camaro which has the L99 in the auto and the LS3 in the manual. You can't convince him anyways, once you get past the fact that VW is not secretly producing underrated 300 horsepower monsters he'll do what the Honda guys used to do in the early 2000s. Endlessly point you at "tuned" VeeDub dyno queens pushing 900 (unusable) horsepower on E85 and 40 lbs of boost and prattle on endlessly about how VW didn't unleash the full potential of the 1.8T but the real fans know the deal. Then he's gonna seal the deal with some stupid joke about dumbestics or Rustangs and continue not caring that his car is slow. You can't win arguments with fanboys. Don't even try. PS this is slightly off topic but the VeeDub scene is full of the dumbest dummies who've ever dumbed. The domestic guys have their rednecks and the import guys love lovely body kits and fart cans but I've never seen either them cut notches in the frame so they can slam it...hello salvage title. http://www.baylordrivingclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8262
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kronix posted:You can't win arguments with fanboys. Don't even try. I deal with them by asking them to come to the track and prove it. I've never had one take me up on the offer.
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Apr 27, 2012 23:13
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I'm wondering how that new GT500 is going to put the power down unless they increase rear tire width drastically from the 285s. The regular GT felt like a handful to me on 255s.
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Apr 27, 2012 23:35
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kronix posted:It has more torque off idle than the current GT has anywhere. I think we're at the point where the new GT500 is stupidly awesome. If it's anywhere near as good as I hope it's going to be, it's approaching super car levels of fast. It has the same amount of torque at 1000rpm as a ferrari 458 italia makes at peak, which is at 6000 RPM. It might be the most powerful production soft top ever. I can't think of a more powerful one. The zonda cinque and veyron gran sport are obviously more powerful roadsters, but they're not conventional convertibles, more targa hard tops.
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Yeah, I should know better than to argue with a fanboy. Still... thanks, guys.
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Fifty Three posted:Yeah, I should know better than to argue with a fanboy. Still... thanks, guys. "When the green flag drops, the bullshit stops." It's a phrase for a reason.
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Goddamn it. I've been shopping around for Noble M400s but now I sort of want a new GT500.
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The temptation to go with this is killing me. 7500 USD to put my '12 over 600hp? Yes please. Now to convince the wife. Tide fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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Apr 28, 2012 06:51
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Comrade Flynn posted:Goddamn it. I've been shopping around for Noble M400s but now I sort of want a new GT500. I only have 2nd hand knowledge from that shop I visited with 3 Nobles, but if you want to drive the car frequently, a Noble isn't gonna cut it.
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kimbo305 posted:I only have 2nd hand knowledge from that shop I visited with 3 Nobles, but if you want to drive the car frequently, a Noble isn't gonna cut it. Why? I've been having a hard time finding people who have actually put any real miles on the cars to talk to.
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Can you get the new GT500 or whatever the nearest Camaro equivalent is ... with an automatic tranny?
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Number_6 posted:Can you get the new GT500 or whatever the nearest Camaro equivalent is ... The ZL-1 had its Nurburgring time set with the automatic version.
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Apr 28, 2012 07:12
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Comrade Flynn posted:Goddamn it. I've been shopping around for Noble M400s but now I sort of want a new GT500. Youre going to park an m400 on the street 
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Comrade Flynn posted:Why? I've been having a hard time finding people who have actually put any real miles on the cars to talk to. I was checking out an M5. The owner happened to run a specialty car shop. He was cool, and we chilled for an hour just talking cars. There were 2 Noble 400s, a GTO, and a Rossion. Some mental notes: - very garage build mentality: weird variations between cars, very lazy wiring/routing - the Duratec just can't cut it at the power levels they're trying. Hell, the GTO was getting a KA swapped in for better reliability (and power?). - the 400 that was a track car had something go wrong at the last 3 track days it'd gone to, resulting in not being able to run the whole day. The fact that there were 4 Nobles (not a terribly common car) all torn down in a small shop in Lawrence, MA said enough to me about their upkeep. I can give you his contact info if you want to him him up for more details. He did say that, when everything is working right, there's nothing like it in terms of power or sensation.
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kimbo305 posted:I was checking out an M5. The owner happened to run a specialty car shop. He was cool, and we chilled for an hour just talking cars. There were 2 Noble 400s, a GTO, and a Rossion. Some mental notes: But that is what they actually are though - kits imported and then assembled individually by the owners? Also what KA swap? You mean the engine from an early 80s Nissan truck?
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Throatwarbler posted:But that is what they actually are though - kits imported and then assembled individually by the owners? Also what KA swap? You mean the engine from an early 80s Nissan truck? I understand that they're low volume hand built cars. But I was relaying evidence of their panning out as such. Oops, I meant the K20. Wtf, this is the Mustang thread.
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kronix posted:Same with the Camaro which has the L99 in the auto and the LS3 in the manual. This makes me sad because I was just like this with the 2jz in the early 2000s. The LS1 and the Coyote made me see the light.
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Number_6 posted:Can you get the new GT500 or whatever the nearest Camaro equivalent is ... I have no clue about the Chevy, but i know Ford doesn't put an automatic into the GT500. You can swap in an automatic without much trouble, however. In other news, the 2013 5.0 doesn't have the piston oil squirters like the 2011/12. Most people that have been building these engines have been removing them anyway, so I'm not sure it's a big deal.
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frozenphil posted:In other news, the 2013 5.0 doesn't have the piston oil squirters like the 2011/12. Most people that have been building these engines have been removing them anyway, so I'm not sure it's a big deal. I saw that it was part of the tweaks to get extra hp. It's a bit surprising that they would take out a small but expensive to design in feature like that so soon.
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Oh yeah, for those of you wanting a turbo kit, I'd recommend waiting for Ken Bjonnes and Power by the Hour to get done with their collaboration kit. Ken is a badass and Power by the Hour make some really impressive stuff. http://i.imgur.com/66WvM.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oKtZl.jpg http://youtu.be/XDP5ei35OVk Edit: Forgot to add that it did 206mph at the Texas Mile. http://youtu.be/w0fOPDXo4Tg frozenphil fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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blargle posted:I'm wondering how that new GT500 is going to put the power down unless they increase rear tire width drastically from the 285s. The regular GT felt like a handful to me on 255s. If it's anything like the 2012's, it'll be pretty ugly. I can light up the tires in my car on the highway. If you are on an undivided highway and need to quickly pass someone, you really need to be mindful of how quickly you stomp the gas as you might end up pulling the pass sideways. Oh, god help you if it's cold and raining out, you'll be spinning the tires as soon as you let off the clutch. Merging in that weather is a bitch. OrganizedEntropy fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 28, 2012 |
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coolskillrex remix posted:Youre going to park an m400 on the street Where on earth did I say that?
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Question: Just how much abuse can the 2012 V6 transmission/clutch take? This is the first standard car I've ever driven and I'm kinda bouncing around and stalling...you know, newbie stuff. Would it be a good idea to get the transmission oil flushed and changed after 1000 or so miles to clean up all the metal shaving my ineptitude has caused?
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Rabble posted:Question: Just how much abuse can the 2012 V6 transmission/clutch take? This is the first standard car I've ever driven and I'm kinda bouncing around and stalling...you know, newbie stuff. That's...not really how manual transmissions work. Unless you are doing really awful stuff like trying to jam it into gear without using the clutch, stalling has no effect on the trans.
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Throatwarbler posted:That's...not really how manual transmissions work. Unless you are doing really awful stuff like trying to jam it into gear without using the clutch, stalling has no effect on the trans. Well, I know that. I just want to make sure that I keep it in tip top shape for a long time, so I want to take care of it and not let potential issues linger. I'm sure I'm just being overly paranoid of a new car.
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Rabble posted:Question: Just how much abuse can the 2012 V6 transmission/clutch take? This is the first standard car I've ever driven and I'm kinda bouncing around and stalling...you know, newbie stuff. Not a Mustang, but the 1997 Mirage that my brothers learned to drive stick in lasted 100,000 miles and a decade afterwards. It takes time to learn a new transmission and clutch too: I bounce and stall my 'stang a bit and I've been manual-only for five years.
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Comrade Flynn posted:Where on earth did I say that? Im confused didnt you do your suspension on the street?
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Rabble posted:Question: Just how much abuse can the 2012 V6 transmission/clutch take? This is the first standard car I've ever driven and I'm kinda bouncing around and stalling...you know, newbie stuff. I learned stickshift on my 2011, and it's had no problems whatsoever so far (only 12500km on it still, mind you). I'm led to believe that stalling at a stop isn't really bad for the car, just a pain in the rear end, but stalling it while driving is Bad News (mind you, there's really no reason you should ever do that unless you're paying no attention whatsoever).
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PT6A posted:I learned stickshift on my 2011, and it's had no problems whatsoever so far (only 12500km on it still, mind you). I'm led to believe that stalling at a stop isn't really bad for the car, just a pain in the rear end, but stalling it while driving is Bad News (mind you, there's really no reason you should ever do that unless you're paying no attention whatsoever). Stalling is not particularly bad for a car. The beginner tendency to ride the clutch is bad for the clutch. How would you stall while driving? Are you talking about not downshifting or something?
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Krakkles posted:Stalling is not particularly bad for a car. The beginner tendency to ride the clutch is bad for the clutch. Yeah, if for example you're on the highway and you slow down to avoid a deer or something without putting the clutch in. I nearly did it once (in exactly that situation), but even going 40 km/h in 6th wasn't enough to do it, so like I said, you have to really gently caress up to manage it. And I can only speak for myself, but when I was learning, I had the opposite problem: acting like the clutch was some sort of evil thing that had to be released as soon as humanly possible (probably because I'd heard of so many newbies riding it too much). Yep, I stalled a lot at the beginning (and had some rather jerky 1-2 shifts).
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Shouldn't be any difference stalling the car in 6th vs. stalling the car in 1st, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I've stalled cars in high gears locking up the wheels with ABS disabled (embarrassing and brutal on the tires). When I was learning it took me a long time to get comfortable with slipping the clutch; I would shudder through parking lots lugging the poo poo out of the car and occasionally dumping the clutch and brake simultaneously to adjust course. I still catch myself doing it sometimes. Nobody ever taught me to get a car started on just the clutch so there was no knowledge of any finesse. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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kimbo305 posted:I was checking out an M5. The owner happened to run a specialty car shop. He was cool, and we chilled for an hour just talking cars. There were 2 Noble 400s, a GTO, and a Rossion. Some mental notes:
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Comrade Flynn posted:Where on earth did I say that? I drove it to Nija's house as he has air tools there. I have a garage. Thanks for inquiring though!
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Number_6 posted:Can you get the new GT500 or whatever the nearest Camaro equivalent is ... It would be better if it came with a DCT or an SMG. But new auto boxes are getting so good that they can switch gears faster than most humans.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:It would be better if it came with a DCT or an SMG. But new auto boxes are getting so good that they can switch gears faster than most humans. Switching gears faster is important for numbers, but I won't be driving one of these cars with an automatic until they have the feel right. Having driven recent Corvettes and the CTSV's with the automatics back to back with the manuals really puts things in perspective. The manuals are just simply much, much, much more fun to drive. Nothing puts a grin on my face like a well done rev match with an obscenely loud exhaust on a manual/V8 powered car.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:Switching gears faster is important for numbers, but I won't be driving one of these cars with an automatic until they have the feel right. Try a Porsche with the PDK system. It's amazingly fun.
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Does anyone have an opinion on aftermarket suspension kits for the 2011+ mustang? I was thinking about getting the Eibach Pro System Plus kit. Not so much for the lower stance, but to eliminate the body roll and nose dip on braking/butt dip on accel, and to generally just be a bit tighter than stock. Anyone have other recommendations or experiences they'd like to share? I'd really appreciate the feedback.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, if for example you're on the highway and you slow down to avoid a deer or something without putting the clutch in. I nearly did it once (in exactly that situation), but even going 40 km/h in 6th wasn't enough to do it, so like I said, you have to really gently caress up to manage it. Hit a milestone today, I don't drive very much. 
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Rabble posted:Does anyone have an opinion on aftermarket suspension kits for the 2011+ mustang? I was thinking about getting the Eibach Pro System Plus kit. Not so much for the lower stance, but to eliminate the body roll and nose dip on braking/butt dip on accel, and to generally just be a bit tighter than stock. Eibach makes decent stuff if your goal is just to improve over stock on a street car.
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