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rotor posted:reminder that in the year 2012 people are literally excited about the following upcoming features of their development platform: but now i can use the Greatest Language of All Time, JavaScript, to write my quake source port!! 
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nightwheat stalker posted:HTML5.....the future is now.... Hey
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Apr 28, 2012 18:06
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browsers as a platform are the reason you need a quad core with 4gb ram to run something that ran fine on a commodore 64
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Apr 28, 2012 18:12
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Apr 28, 2012 18:40
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Sweevo posted:browsers as a platform are the reason you need a quad core with 4gb ram to run something that ran fine on a commodore 64 
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Apr 28, 2012 18:42
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why can't i use modern technology on my lovely old hardware. why.
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Apr 28, 2012 18:44
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rotor posted:these were all solved problems and your ignorance of history is sadly predictable. being paid by the cj lobby I see
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Apr 28, 2012 18:46
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Tiny Bug Child posted:why can't i use modern technology on my lovely old hardware. why. because your modern technology is literally several orders of magnitude less efficient
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Apr 28, 2012 18:46
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rotor posted:because your modern technology is literally several orders of magnitude less efficient sure. that's the cost of hyper-general-purpose computing. you could always use one of those efficient commodore 64s
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Apr 28, 2012 18:49
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2 months ago I saw a web page with an implementation of asteroids in a browser that got like 5fps 10 years ago I saw a web page with an implementation of asteroids in svg that got like 5 fps 15 years ago I saw an implementation of asteroids in java that got like 5 fps 20 years ago I saw an implementation of asteroids written in pascal that got like 5fps ~*~progress~*~
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Apr 28, 2012 18:51
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Tiny Bug Child posted:sure. that's the cost of hyper-general-purpose computing. you could always use one of those efficient commodore 64s that's true, quadcores are deffo more general purpose than pentiums
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Apr 28, 2012 18:52
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why am I talking to tiny bug child, my god
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Apr 28, 2012 18:53
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im often astounded by how fukken fast simple but data-heavy things like UITableViews work on something with as little processing power as an iphone native code ftw
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Apr 28, 2012 18:53
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i think the ability to press a ok a bunch of times to file my taxes while taking a dump is progress
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Apr 28, 2012 18:55
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why do you have to do your own taxes? do you live in like africa or something?
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Apr 28, 2012 18:57
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rotor posted:2 months ago I saw a web page with an implementation of asteroids in a browser that got like 5fps 2 months ago i used a really bad desktop application
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Apr 28, 2012 18:57
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rotor posted:because your modern technology is literally several orders of magnitude less efficient or it's because people don't do just one thing at a time anymore
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Apr 28, 2012 19:00
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what do you mean i can't even use an email app and play asteroids at the same time
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Apr 28, 2012 19:01
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rotor posted:don't make me angry, switchboy he's completely right, you know. the update issue has been solved but none of the major applications bothered to use the solution. windows developers, not network admins, ruined the desktop
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Apr 28, 2012 19:13
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seriously rotor, it's funny you bring up history because people have been whining about abstraction for decades and history has shown them to be the spergiest of the spergs
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Apr 28, 2012 19:13
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:windows ruined the desktop
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Apr 28, 2012 19:17
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passionate dongs posted:seriously rotor, it's funny you bring up history because people have been whining about abstraction for decades and history has shown them to be the spergiest of the spergs not to mention computers started with thin clients and it was great and easier to manage
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Apr 28, 2012 19:18
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i can't wait for until we have a One World Computer maintained by amazon, designed by google, interfaced to by apple products and housed at the north pole. knowing anything about the specifics how of a computer works will be the mark of a true blue collar poor.
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Apr 28, 2012 19:38
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Anal Tributary posted:actually localStorage is very much synchronous All the other storage options have synchronous standards but because javascript is poo poo implementing those standards isn't really feasible Anal Tributary posted:
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gently caress anyone who thinks web apps should support offline poo poo, if you want that then write a native app
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Apr 28, 2012 19:45
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Evernote got that poo poo correct
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Apr 28, 2012 20:05
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Inverse Icarus posted:not to mention computers started with thin clients and it was great and easier to manage you know what's even easier to manage? no computers at all!
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Apr 28, 2012 20:05
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webos is clearly the framework of the future ui in html5 + css + "enyo framework" (see also: jquery), logic in javascript
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Apr 28, 2012 20:06
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:he's completely right, you know. the update issue has been solved but none of the major applications bothered to use the solution. its both, but yeah. if osx had been what it is now in 1998, we wouldn't be having this conversation. and in a way, the desktop IS having great success, but only on iOS.
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Apr 28, 2012 20:07
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Luigi Thirty posted:webos is clearly the framework of the future its prototype + node.js actually
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Apr 28, 2012 20:08
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Luigi Thirty posted:webos is clearly the framework of the future as the runaway success of webos has shown us,
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Apr 28, 2012 20:09
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HTML5 posted:or it's because people don't do just one thing at a time anymore yeah multitaksing wasn't invented until around 2000 or so, good point
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Apr 28, 2012 20:09
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fidel sarcastro posted:as the runaway success of webos has shown us, can we stop talking about webos please, I don't want to ruin my mascara
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Apr 28, 2012 20:10
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rotor posted:yeah multitaksing wasn't invented until around 2000 or so, good point windows 2000
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Apr 28, 2012 20:11
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rotor posted:~*~progress~*~ you know they're reimplementing http and html in javascript, json and web sockets. local storage instead of http caching too. hooray!
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Apr 28, 2012 20:11
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rotor posted:its both, but yeah. if osx had been what it is now in 1998, we wouldn't be having this conversation. huh. i hadn't thought about it, but you're right. iOS is receiving way more native code than other platforms are
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Apr 28, 2012 20:20
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Inverse Icarus posted:nah, windows didn't ruin it. i would say their worst crime was kowtowing to their retarded partners/devs who demanded so much bullshit. ms should have just told them no, but you dont make billions of dollars doing that so 
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Apr 28, 2012 20:23
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rotor posted:its prototype + node.js actually oh yeah i knew it was prototype but not node.js
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Apr 28, 2012 20:25
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fidel sarcastro posted:as the runaway success of webos has shown us, well it's really easy to program for and adapt internet garbage for so maybe if more than one device used it
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Apr 28, 2012 20:25
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my wife's company uses gmail for all their work mail (and for their clients too i guess) and she is really, really pissed off about the gmail change that they "just recently" forced everyone into every few hours she just screams something like "WHY DO I HAVE TO HOVER TO GET TO MY LABELS?!!!?!?!" really loudly and scares the dogs
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Luigi Thirty posted:well it's really easy to program for and adapt internet garbage for so maybe if more than one device used it to this day I don't understand how webos got through two companies without landing on one decent piece of hardware please don't cry rotor
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