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it's also cool how "progress" is apparently people throwing up their hands and saying "threads are hard!" and using a loving javascript webserver
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pyf monad for automatically inserting nextTick calls in a CPU-bound calculation
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it is perhaps short-sighted to blame windows specifically because windows was a product of the microcomputer hobbyist culture which itself rejected large-scale computing, the real problem is systems becoming so complex and legacy-bound that they are no longer hackable this of course implies that eventually we'll see a movement to create inner platforms within the web/mobile platforms 
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i'm pretty uncool, i write in C and its derivatives. it's what Doom was written in, so it's what i learned php comes and goes, ruby on rails comes and goes, i keep writing C *smokes pipe*
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ahhh spiders posted:it's also cool how "progress" is apparently people throwing up their hands and saying "threads are hard!" and using a loving javascript webserver 
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ahhh spiders posted:people throwing up their hands and saying "threads are hard!" but threads are hard 
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tef posted:but threads are hard Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Apr 29, 2012 |
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Apr 29, 2012 11:50
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actually co-op threads are rad as heck and provide basically all of the benefits of preemp threads and none of the fuckery
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unless the thing you are waiting for seriously refuses to not block. in which case i guess they suck
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TiMBuS posted:unless the thing you are waiting for seriously refuses to not block. in which case i guess they suck Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Apr 29, 2012 |
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Apr 29, 2012 12:10
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yea co-op threads suck for long algos. i have a gui program that draws a graph and stutters if i dont use a pre-emptive thread, but poo poo i wish there was a solution that wasn't threads (this is on windows so i cant fork+pipe either argh) dunno about node.js stuff i dont use it and hopefully never will
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linuxgangster.com redirects to a site about boa constrictors
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echinopsis posted:linuxgangster.com redirects to a site about boa constrictors Hi everyone. Just testing this out. (so excited) lol. Anyways, what possible combinations can I get out of an anery het albino het salmon if bred with my albino boa? Neither are ready to breed just yet. But a friend of my from Fresno is selling a few Anery babies that had an albino dad and a salmon mother that was het Anery. Just wondering if I would need my male albino to be het Anery to produce snows or if he would have to be het hypo to get some sunglow. Any help would be appreciated. By the way my male albino red tail is only 10 months old and the Andries are all about 2 months old so they won't be ready till another year and a half for my male and about 3 years for the female Anery.
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wish you would get boa constricted
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tef posted:but threads are hard
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use perl 6
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echinopsis posted:linuxgangster.com suck a nigga's dick, spread he code around, cast aside these patent laws of lesser men
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ppp posted:use perl 6 use python 3
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Luigi Thirty posted:use python 3 no dont
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barbarianbob posted:richard o'keefe, isnt that the guy that writes code that looks like vaginas? 
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i'll be honest if python's standard library wasn't such a loving disorganised mess I'd probably use python more yes let's mix every identifier capitalisation style ever. also let's have "pickle" and "cpickle" and the only difference between the two is that the second has a faster(?) underlying implementation. ok chief. also the GIL is frankly shameful. basically what i'm saying is that i'm a mong
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Mr Dog posted:yes let's mix every identifier capitalisation style ever. also let's have "pickle" and "cpickle" and the only difference between the two is that the second has a faster(?) underlying implementation. ok chief. sounds like php
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Janin posted:no they're not. use a better language (like haskell) now you have uncountably many problems
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Otto Skorzeny posted:now you have uncountably many problems
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RZApublican posted:suck a nigga's dick, spread he code around, cast aside these patent laws of lesser men
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well haskell is pretty neat for a lot of things, and the problems with getting it to work with real systems aren't as pronounced as some folks make them out to be. at the same time, haskell isn't a panacea for parallelism generally or multithreaded parallelism* in particular, even thought it has some tools that help with certain types of problems (eg. `par` is cool but once you get beyond certain embarassing cases you need other tools because the substantial complexity of your task is the real problem rather than accidental complexity)
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did i mention that i want a clojure that isn't tied to the jvm/clr. like park that son of a gun on top of sbcl or whatever
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tef posted:but threads are hard it's loving stupid to think this sorry. bye
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TiMBuS posted:yea co-op threads suck for long algos. i have a gui program that draws a graph and stutters if i dont use a pre-emptive thread, but poo poo i wish there was a solution that wasn't threads (this is on windows so i cant fork+pipe either argh) why don't you use threads
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BonzoESC posted:seriously if you're not writing a tutorial about monads using strained analogies to real-world things there's no reason to use Haskell basically, it's the best language ever for anything that isn't windows GUI programming Otto Skorzeny posted:well haskell is pretty neat for a lot of things, and the problems with getting it to work with real systems aren't as pronounced as some folks make them out to be. at the same time, haskell isn't a panacea for parallelism generally or multithreaded parallelism* in particular, even thought it has some tools that help with certain types of problems (eg. `par` is cool but once you get beyond certain embarassing cases you need other tools because the substantial complexity of your task is the real problem rather than accidental complexity)
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Janin posted:haskell is awesome if you want to write high-performance (lol, erlang) servers that don't crash, or if you want to have a nicer interface to some gnarly old C/C++/Python/Lua/etc library, or you are working on an extremely constrained environment and want to write a program with guaranteed-fixed memory allocation and cpu time, or or or or ... nah it sucks. cheers
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haskell owns owns owns the only two languages that need to exist are haskell and c
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haskell is stupid and no one uses it, thank god
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man just look how wrong you are
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Mr Dog posted:i'll be honest if python's standard library wasn't such a loving disorganised mess I'd probably use python more the GIL isn't part of the standard library, it's an implementation detail of c-python. python 3 also does a lot to clean up the std lib, which is a good thing.
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ahhh spiders posted:it's loving stupid to think this sorry. bye yeah was about to say that too how the gently caress are threads that hard
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Janin posted:haskell owns owns owns haskell more like hasmell
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i skipped the lat few pages. are all programming languages, methodologies, and development environments still unmitigated pieces of poo poo?
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Deuterieux posted:i skipped the lat few pages. are all programming languages, methodologies, and development environments still unmitigated pieces of poo poo? Yes
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Deuterieux posted:i skipped the lat few pages. are all programming languages, methodologies, and development environments still unmitigated pieces of poo poo? yep, some just have a different kind of lovely smell to them
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