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Quebec Bagnet: Apr 28, 2009; mess with the honk
you get the bonk; Lipstick Apathy

you know how when u take a dump it's like "yeah that smells like poo poo, but it's my poo poo"

but when anyone else takes a dump it's "eww wtf is that lovely smell"

that's how programmers argue about languages, methodologies, and environments

# ? Apr 29, 2012 21:55

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# ? May 8, 2024 21:12

My Linux Rig: Mar 27, 2010; Can't post for 6 years!

Deuterieux posted:

i skipped the lat few pages. are all programming languages, methodologies, and development environments still unmitigated pieces of poo poo?

much
like
your
POSTING

i barely GNU her! posted:

"yeah that smells like poo poo, but it's my poo poo"

don't sign your posts

# ? Apr 29, 2012 21:57

jonpv: Apr 19, 2007; Simply unbannable!

everyone who doesn't write their programs by physically soldering together big old NAND gates and D type flip flops that they keep in a bucket in the corner needs to get out and learn to code in a real physical giant loving physical programming language

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:03

newreply.php: Dec 24, 2009; Pillbug

i barely GNU her! posted:

you know how when u take a dump it's like "yeah that smells like poo poo, but it's my poo poo"

but when anyone else takes a dump it's "eww wtf is that lovely smell"

that's how programmers argue about languages, methodologies, and environments

the worst is when youre in a stall thinking "phewee thats a smelly one" and then you realise you might as well be smelling the dude next door

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:14

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

its weird when you take a poo poo
forget about it
walk back in a minute later
are grossed out by the smell
then realise it's yours

conflicted is a word that springs to mind

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:42

abraham linksys: Sep 6, 2010

echinopsis posted:

its weird when you take a poo poo
forget about it
walk back in a minute later

what

what

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:53

Sneaking Mission: Nov 11, 2008

if its yellow let it mellow
if its brown let it sit around

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:55

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

not flushing the toilet when you take a piss because you want to pretend you're a conservationist and are protecting the environment is the most moronic liberal guilt bullshit i've ever heard of

# ? Apr 29, 2012 22:57

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

ahhh spiders posted:

not flushing the toilet when you take a piss because you want to pretend you're a conservationist and are protecting the environment is the most moronic liberal guilt bullshit i've ever heard of

in rural places with self-contained septic systems it's not a liberal guilt thing but a legit practical thing to do so you don't have to call the honey wagon as often

but lol@ rurals live in a city morans

# ? Apr 29, 2012 23:42

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

BonzoESC posted:

in rural places with self-contained septic systems it's not a liberal guilt thing but a legit practical thing to do so you don't have to call the honey wagon as often

but lol@ rurals live in a city morans

if that were the case why wouldn't you have a dual-flush toilet

# ? Apr 29, 2012 23:49

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

ahhh spiders posted:

if that were the case why wouldn't you have a dual-flush toilet

'cause you installed the toilet in the '70s

# ? Apr 29, 2012 23:51

0xB16B00B5: Aug 24, 2006; by Y Kant Ozma Post

erlang and haskell are cool cause you can spray poo poo across all your rooms simultaneously and are notified when you miss a spot, without the global poo poo smearing taking a poo poo

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:38

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

tinselt0wn posted:

erlang and haskell are cool cause you can spray poo poo across all your rooms simultaneously and are notified when you miss a spot, without the global poo poo smearing taking a poo poo

Haha, yeah, but how about explaining it without using an analogy that involves your posting?

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:45

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

i only do verilog and sometimes perl or ruby, and systemverilog which is to verilog as objective c is to c, well that's my post

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:50

CamH: Apr 11, 2008

ahhh spiders posted:

Haha, yeah, but how about explaining it without using an analogy that involves your posting?

you mean one that doesn't involve his posting

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:53

CamH: Apr 11, 2008

poo poo I read that wrong

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:54

0xB16B00B5: Aug 24, 2006; by Y Kant Ozma Post

my posting is single threaded for yospos

# ? Apr 30, 2012 00:58

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

Janin posted:

haskell is awesome if you want to write high-performance (lol, erlang) servers that don't crash, or if you want to have a nicer interface to some gnarly old C/C++/Python/Lua/etc library, or you are working on an extremely constrained environment and want to write a program with guaranteed-fixed memory allocation and cpu time, or or or or ...

basically, it's the best language ever for anything that isn't windows GUI programming

the nice thing with haskell w.r.t. threads is that you can use its type system to enforce lots of different constraints on stuff like shared memory access or locking that would otherwise require hundreds of pages of documentation and "IMPORTANT: DONT CALL THESE PROCEDURES IN THE SAME THREAD AS ..." warnings.

seryospost, for a lot of task Haskell appears to become thunk heaven, and it gets very hard to get good performance and/or good profiling out of it because it's pretyt hard to get profiling working at all without messing up with the lazy semantics of the language.

When you get some performance problems (usually related to memory), the act of trying to profile the code or ad debugging info is often enough to solve the problem, but then you don't want to ship code that's running in debug mode and welp Haskell gets really lovely hard to make work well for certain classes of serious things.

# ? Apr 30, 2012 02:23

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

lmao if your program isn't simply a collection of smaller single-purpose programs that talk to each other using character streams that can have their parallelism managed by the os

# ? Apr 30, 2012 04:55

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

rotor posted:

lmao if your program isn't simply a collection of smaller single-purpose programs that talk to each other using character streams that can have their parallelism managed by the os

my system doesn't have an os

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:16

THE PLATFORM MASTER: Jun 3, 2008

Otto Skorzeny posted:

my system doesn't have an os

then use windows instead of linuxes

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:18

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

rotor posted:

lmao if your program isn't simply a collection of smaller single-purpose programs that talk to each other using character streams that can have their parallelism managed by the os

i mostly agree but serializing data to a byte stream for IPC is a dumb, shared memory passing ftw

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:21

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Otto Skorzeny posted:

my system doesn't have an os

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:23

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

if you got no os idunno just write some bytes or some poo poo I ain't give a gently caress

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:24

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

nigga so poor he ain't even got an os, drat, it hard for a po white man to get ahead in obamas america

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:26

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

haskell is old news the only reason anyone says anything good about it is that we don't have a new hotness yet. for free i will share what the Next Big Thing will look like: language support for bloom filters, tries, and sharding. maybe some other things that you can do perfectly well with one or at most two arrays. it will not support arrays.

# ? Apr 30, 2012 05:32

TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT: Oct 12, 2008; this is what happens when you take UI design away from engineers and give it to a bunch of hipster art student "designers"

MononcQc posted:

seryospost, for a lot of task Haskell appears to become thunk heaven, and it gets very hard to get good performance and/or good profiling out of it because it's pretyt hard to get profiling working at all without messing up with the lazy semantics of the language.

When you get some performance problems (usually related to memory), the act of trying to profile the code or ad debugging info is often enough to solve the problem, but then you don't want to ship code that's running in debug mode and welp Haskell gets really lovely hard to make work well for certain classes of serious things.

this is easily solved by spending more than like twenty minutes learning the language

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:05

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Janin posted:

this is easily solved by spending more than like twenty minutes learning the language

pffff. pass.

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:10

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

i think janin is trying to troll but its p difficult to separate his real wrongposts from the fake ones

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:19

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Janin posted:

this is easily solved by spending more than like twenty minutes learning the language

worse is better, you will never sell a language that depends on a graduate CS education to get started vs. one in which you can write "og say print stuff to screen"

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:24

TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT: Oct 12, 2008; this is what happens when you take UI design away from engineers and give it to a bunch of hipster art student "designers"

Gazpacho posted:

worse is better, you will never sell a language that depends on a graduate CS education to get started vs. one in which you can write "og say print stuff to screen"

code:

main = do
    putStrLn "uggh how og print"
    putStrLn "og confused without semicolons, og smash"

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:28

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

main = do

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:37

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

lmao

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:37

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

I mean honestly

# ? Apr 30, 2012 06:37

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Janin posted:

code:

main = do
    putStrLn "uggh how og print"
    putStrLn "og confused without semicolons, og smash"

sweet now try doing it inside an arbitrary function OH SNAP

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:02

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

main = doo-doo imo

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:06

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

rotor posted:

maine = doo-doo imo

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:11

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

main = pee
main = pee
main = do
main = do

putStrLn "it is a bad language"

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:13

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Luigi Thirty posted:

main = pee
main = pee
main = do
main = do

putStrLn "it is a bad language"

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:15

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vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

Nomnom Cookie posted:

haskell is old news the only reason anyone says anything good about it is that we don't have a new hotness yet. for free i will share what the Next Big Thing will look like: language support for bloom filters, tries, and sharding. maybe some other things that you can do perfectly well with one or at most two arrays. it will not support arrays.

another event-based single-threaded network server. this time it uses blitzbasic

# ? Apr 30, 2012 07:56

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