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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the stuff i write.

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Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Heresiarch posted:

Name me a piece of "middleware" that isn't a complete pile of poo poo, because I've never seen one.

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
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"it's george costanza" ?>
once again a legion of retards fall to shaggar's trolling

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
functards cant imagine people actually doing stuff w/ computer other than math so they hate good languages. its like when *nixtards got mad when command line stuff went away 20 years ago.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Shaggar posted:

the stuff i write.

Dammit, you're supposed to defend something indefensible here so everybody can have a good laugh. You're losing your touch.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
i dont think tomcat counts as middleware but it owns.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
Christ, I give you a perfect setup and you just completely whiff the shot.

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you
train shaggar and tbc to pet island so we can have a non-retarded discussion about programming languages

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Janin posted:

no it's not. don't be silly.

but I like being silly.

Phil Wadler asked in a talk 'How can we make haskell programs shorter?' I replied 'Get rid of the type signatures' :q:

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Fren posted:

train shaggar and tbc to pet island so we can have a non-retarded discussion about programming languages


yes lets all unironically discuss which bad functional language is popular this week. great thread idea.

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Fren posted:

train shaggar and tbc to pet island so we can have a non-retarded discussion about programming languages

and then we can talk about real programming, like tabs, spaces, and braces

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
all man style, hard tabs only. that ones not really much of a discussion

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

yes lets all unironically discuss which bad functional language is popular this week. great thread idea.

shaggar what do you think of generics in java ?

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror
generics are a crummy solution to the problem they solve. better solution: no types anywhere

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

tef posted:

and then we can talk about real programming, like tabs, spaces, and braces

or really just anything except comparing c# to java to c++ ad nauseum

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
if it wasn't for generics, how I would I get to ask awkward interview questions like 'What is the type of Enum in Java' :q:

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

tef posted:

shaggar what do you think of generics in java ?

good enough for most situations. type erasure makes certain cases annoying but w/e.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Fren posted:

or really just anything except comparing c# to java to c++ ad nauseum

yeah lets not compare the only languages used in real computing. that would be dumb.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
java enums are great, btw.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
oh wow Python 3 is actually quite nice.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
nope

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

Mr Dog posted:

oh wow Python 3 is actually quite nice.

i'd really like to start using it more regularly. there's a lot of solid evolutionary steps in there like cleaning up the error hierarchy, argparse, yield from, str.format, etc

and function annotations

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
I was gonna write some code, but then I got high
I was gonna wait for Eclipse to load, but then I got high
My test cases are broken, and I know why
Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
uh but the one thing I don't like is how they deprecated formatting using the % operator

"string literal".format(blah, blah) just looks hella gross.

It's like how Ruby lets you do stuff like 1234.butt() and then acts like that's a good thing.

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Shaggar posted:

yeah lets not compare the only languages used in real computing. that would be dumb.

those languages are only used for making desktop "applications" and sometimes being shoehorned into the web in places php should be used

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

Mr Dog posted:

uh but the one thing I don't like is how they deprecated formatting using the % operator

"string literal".format(blah, blah) just looks hella gross.

It's like how Ruby lets you do stuff like 1234.butt() and then acts like that's a good thing.



how is it any different from "butts".upper()

detroit
Nov 11, 2009
mumps is the best language for programs

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Fren posted:

how is it any different from "butts".upper()

it isn't, both are terrible.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Janin posted:

why would you want to do this? IO should only be done if the function's type signature allows IO.
lol, "should" in one hand and write imperative code in the other and tell me which fills up the fastest

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug
lets just talk about languages that make the most money for ppl knowing them, such as objective-c

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

newreply.php posted:

lets just talk about languages that make the most money for ppl knowing them, such as objective-c

also happens to be a sick bomb-rear end language for super cool dudes

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

ahhh spiders posted:

also happens to be a sick bomb-rear end language for super cool dudes

agreedo, objc owns bones and the foundation framework kicks rear end

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

ahhh spiders posted:

once again a legion of retards fall to shaggar's trolling

i'm now going to use "legion" as the collective noun for the developmentally disabled, thx

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug
core data owns a lot. core animation even more.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
objc is like they took all the bad parts of c++/c#/java and put them together.

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

Shaggar posted:

objc is like they took all the bad parts of c++/c#/java and put them together.

stfu

ppp
Feb 13, 2012

by angerbot

Shaggar posted:

objc is like they took all the bad parts of c++/c#/java and put them together.

your posts are in a programming language?lol

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug
nsnotifications are so much better than laughable jaba observables

vapid cutlery
Apr 17, 2007

php:
<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

ppp posted:

your posts are in a programming language?lol

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
please, can we try to maintain a level of decorum and civility here? This isn't the schoolyard, lets try to act like we understand that.

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