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tinselt0wn posted:also in lisp similar languages the program itself is even more data!!!! same with machine code i guess the lesson is, write machine code
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yah x86 supremacy 0x00s0gbea
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May 5, 2012 16:29
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tinselt0wn posted:no one likes anything i say so more than 0 isnt impressive.
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May 5, 2012 16:44
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Rufo posted:maths is hella relevant to non-trivial computing problems im sorry sorry how does galois theory inform some code checking tool I scanned both articles and came up bubkis
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May 5, 2012 20:22
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just want to thank all you guys working on banner ads and popunders and whatever else you're doing god's work
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May 5, 2012 21:25
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Inverse Icarus posted:just want to thank all you guys working on banner ads and popunders and whatever else someone's gotta pay for the internet, it sure as gently caress ain't gonna be you
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May 5, 2012 21:27
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rotor posted:someone's gotta pay for the internet, it sure as gently caress ain't gonna be you we're the people you pay for the internet can't serve up your "obama wants all moms to lose their belly with this one weird tip!" ads without all the plumbing
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May 5, 2012 22:18
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Inverse Icarus posted:we're the people you pay for the internet oh i get it. sure ok.
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May 5, 2012 22:40
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guys i just bought a hot air rework station what should i rework turns out they dont work so great for removing through-hole stuff 
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May 5, 2012 22:42
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rotor posted:guys i just bought a hot air rework station what should i rework just use a solder sucker for that
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May 5, 2012 22:57
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rotor posted:guys i just bought a hot air rework station what should i rework turn a long sheet of plastic into a bendy sheet of plastic
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May 5, 2012 22:59
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rotor posted:guys i just bought a hot air rework station what should i rework upgrade your palmpre into an iphone
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May 5, 2012 23:03
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Sniep posted:upgrade your palmpre into an iphone
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May 5, 2012 23:12
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Hey AV go read the following poo poo on Wikipedia Data structures: - Dynamic arrays - Linked lists - Hash tables - Heaps (n.b. not 'the dynamic memory pool', the data structure) - Binary trees (and the main ways to make them not suck: AVL Trees and Red-Black trees. Do not attempt to implement the latter, it is painful). Algorithms: - Binary search - Heapsort (you know about heaps now so this is ez) - Quicksort - Insertion sort (token 'suboptimal' example that's fast on 'small' lists) Concurrent programming: - Threads - Mutexes - Condition variables Maybe optionally learn how malloc()/free() actually work as well and maybe what a cache line is. Congratulations, that probably took you a week or two and this is like 99% of the actual theory that you need to know for professional programming, not including writing more than a few thousand LOC without it turning into an incomprehensible soup, and that's craft and not science so it simply takes practice. Also everyone disagrees on how best to do it and everyone thinks everyone else sucks at it anyway. Oh yeah Wikipedia goes out of its way to explain things in the worst way imaginable so maybe read this poo poo somewhere else idk.
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May 5, 2012 23:40
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he's not going to learn any of that because he's bad at computers
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May 6, 2012 00:14
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seriously, front end guys don't need to know any of that. all they need to do is get poo poo working in all the browsers and leave everything else to the rest of the team
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May 6, 2012 00:15
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proofing some outsourced software for a side gig. loly moly.
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May 6, 2012 00:27
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caches are p. neat btw
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May 6, 2012 00:31
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rotor posted:guys i just bought a hot air rework station what should i rework are you preheating? get that board up a bit and it may go better. but yeah i usu just use a 15w iron for through hole, maybe grab the 40w if i am removing connectors or heatsinked stuff
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May 6, 2012 00:32
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Mr Dog posted:Hey AV go read the following poo poo on Wikipedia go watch the mit open courseware intro to cs videos and if you find yourself thinking "ugh why are they spending all this time not looking at code???" dont do a cs course. seems like you just wanna get a job rather than learn things
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May 6, 2012 00:47
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:seriously, front end guys don't need to know any of that i had to write code to generate smooth curves through arbitrary-sized lists of points on a polygon using only quadratic curves, and do it at 30fps so shove your backend elitism up your rear end you mincing loving human being
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May 6, 2012 01:25
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no but seriously most front end work these days is more about managing endless changes to a spec than it is about writing a code
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May 6, 2012 01:26
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most of the front end guys i know of are now slaves to bureaucracy and bike shedding. lol when legal starts getting involved.
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May 6, 2012 01:29
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rotor posted:i had to write code to generate smooth curves through arbitrary-sized lists of points on a polygon using only quadratic curves, and do it at 30fps so shove your backend elitism up your rear end you mincing loving human being this sounds fun (the curves, not the rear end shoving)
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May 6, 2012 01:30
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:most of the front end guys i know of are now slaves to bureaucracy and bike shedding. lol when legal starts getting involved. yeah, managing this poo poo is what makes the front end hard
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May 6, 2012 01:30
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Stringent posted:this sounds fun (the curves, not the rear end shoving) it was cool though because the other dudes were like "wtf" and then the next day i brought in the springer verlag book because i'd taken a course on splines and approximation in college, it was about as smug as i've ever been professionally
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May 6, 2012 01:32
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May 6, 2012 01:33
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replace 'spec' with any of the following: * what they told you to build * what they meant to tell you to build * what you built * what they thought you'd built * what the guy before you built and its still true
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May 6, 2012 01:37
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rotor posted:replace 'spec' with any of the following: swingset.jpg
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May 6, 2012 01:39
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Internaut! posted:sorry how does galois theory inform some code checking tool when you formulate a dataflow analysis problem as an instance of a general dataflow framework (by defining an appropriate lattice + dataflow eq'ns + finding the "least" fixpoint of them + evaluating that at the cfg vertex youre interested in) you typically define abs/rep functions for mapping back and forth between the direct program state and the abstracted state. you need to ensure these conjugate pairs of funcs behave correctly. if you use funcs which form a galois connection, you can later use the fusion theorem to prove they still act correctly when you start dicking about with fixpoints this is prob handwavey to the point of being incorrect cos i'm trying to piece it together by looking at my old notes and i cant remember poo poo. if you want ill try and do a proper writeup later
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May 6, 2012 01:44
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Rufo posted:when you formulate a dataflow analysis problem as an instance of a general dataflow framework (by defining an appropriate lattice + dataflow eq'ns + finding the "least" fixpoint of them + evaluating that at the cfg vertex youre interested in) you typically define abs/rep functions for mapping back and forth between the direct program state and the abstracted state. you need to ensure these conjugate pairs of funcs behave correctly. if you use funcs which form a galois connection, you can later use the fusion theorem to prove they still act correctly when you start dicking about with fixpoints I want. plus i'm totally curious what method do they use to find the fixpoint
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May 6, 2012 01:46
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:I want. plus i'm totally curious what method do they use to find the fixpoint its just mfp/mop, iirc the dragon book has something about it + the result about mop being ideal when ???? whatever the condition was. when something is monotonic?? idk kind of shocked how much of this stuff ive forgotten
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May 6, 2012 01:57
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Rufo posted:its just mfp/mop, iirc the dragon book has something about it + the result about mop being ideal when ???? whatever the condition was. when something is monotonic?? idk hi five forgettin cool math stuff bro  
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May 6, 2012 02:00
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Rufo posted:its just mfp/mop, iirc the dragon book has something about it + the result about mop being ideal when ???? whatever the condition was. when something is monotonic?? idk don't feel bad, i used to know all sorts of poo poo and now i barely remember my middle name, welcome to getting older.
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May 6, 2012 02:06
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Alligator posted:seems like you just wanna get a job rather than learn things i have the opposite problem i keep trying to learn everything when i need to settle down and learn one thing really well
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May 6, 2012 02:14
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naw, hop around jobs year after year too, be an expert of all kindsa stuff
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May 6, 2012 02:20
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JawnV6 posted:naw, hop around jobs year after year too, be an expert of all kindsa stuff but dont be one of those dudes who are all JACK OF ALL TRADES MASTER OF NONE
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May 6, 2012 02:21
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Jonny 290 posted:JACK OF ALL TRADES MASTER OF NONE this is me beginner level knowledge of everything, not really good at any of it
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May 6, 2012 02:26
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what about jack of zero trades master of none
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fidel sarcastro posted:this is me pick a couple things, kick the poo poo out of them, move on.
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