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Internaut! posted:eh have you done this on the newer generational gcs actually no I havent
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Gentle Autist posted:hammer/nail sulk/anything when all you have is a sulk, everything looks like a anything
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rotor posted:actually no I havent one of my first jobs was to help a client move their platform from AIX/C to Windows/Java and my job was to use MQSeries to connect the two requests were taking minutes to process, and unfortunately they isolated the problem to somewhere in my code which I claimed which was impossible (because my code didn't really do much except some Java object<->text message translation) on a hunch I decompiled the IBM's MQ client Java code and found that they were building MQ messages like this really abusive pseudocode code:
this was the first time I thought the difference between myself and the IBMs of the world might boil down to just marketing and I soon got out of technology consulting
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# ? May 7, 2012 15:40 |
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(I know jack poo poo about IBM's internal organizatoin, which I'm perfectly fine with) It seems like theres two IBMs: the brilliant people who do crazy poo poo like super-amazing-optimized floating point hardware layout that is still hard to beat, even though the guy was named an IBM fellow for this 20+ years ago, and Watson the jeopardy playing computer and then the people who manage to concatenate a bunch of strings in time that's quadratic in the length of the output AFAIK javac from newer JDK releases (maybe > 1.4) will try compile that to a StringBuilder or StringBuffer if you're too dumb to do this yourself emphasis on "try" to help you with this; i don't know how fragile it is, e.g. "oops, ia dded a variable and now javac can't figure out how to save me from myself" Relying on javac to help you is pretty dangerous because javac is really stupid
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srsly magic happens at the Thomas J. Watson Research Center It's like Google for adults/professionals The PI for the watson project gave a talk at my university; it was amazing to see the development process for a computer that can play jeopardy 16TB of RAM, IIRC or was it 128TB. I think something like 2880 CPU cores too Lysidas fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 7, 2012 |
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Fren posted:when all you have is a sulk, everything looks like a anything rcp nigga
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Werthog posted:your posting is always pretty poo poo but this one in particular was offensively bad. please leave and never return.
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rotor posted:nice comeback, rotor is old, interesting btw are you old old or just boomer old
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Lysidas posted:(I know jack poo poo about IBM's internal organizatoin, which I'm perfectly fine with) It seems like theres two IBMs: the brilliant people who do crazy poo poo like super-amazing-optimized floating point hardware layout that is still hard to beat, even though the guy was named an IBM fellow for this 20+ years ago, and Watson the jeopardy playing computer proof?
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ugh fine Stringer.java: code:
code:
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# ? May 7, 2012 17:18 |
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i meant proof that javac was stupid
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# ? May 7, 2012 17:21 |
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no
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# ? May 7, 2012 17:26 |
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lua wins again
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Lysidas posted:ugh fine if you're wondering, much of hotspot's optimiser, is dedicated to making up for programmers not understanding java
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tef posted:if you're wondering, much of hotspot's optimiser, is dedicated to making up for programmers not understanding java this is exactly what i meant by "javac is stupid" i meant stupid = do one simple thing, do it well; and that thing is converting java source code to JVM bytecode. the real magic happens in the JVM, and expecting javac to do any meaningful optimizations is unwise (of course converting java source code is nowhere near as simple as it once was, because of the hosed generics design)
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generics is hilarious
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# ? May 7, 2012 18:13 |
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i wish there was only one programming language ever. then people wouldnt have to argue.
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# ? May 7, 2012 21:51 |
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PATH is by far the coolest programming language
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# ? May 7, 2012 22:02 |
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when can i just use python instead of javascript
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you've been able to for like a year and a half http://syntensity.com/static/python.html
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barbarianbob posted:i wish there was only one programming language ever. then people wouldnt have to argue. verilog
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just a butt posted:verilog ASICs for everything. i can get behind this
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Lysidas posted:you've been able to for like a year and a half lmao
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using stringbuffer/builder when it makes sense to use it is like the second thing people are taught in java so i dont know what you're spergin about
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Lysidas posted:The PI for the watson project gave a talk at my university; it was amazing to see the development process for a computer that can play jeopardy
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rotor posted:someone's gotta pay for the internet, it sure as gently caress ain't gonna be you do web developers really get mad like this over ads
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Toady posted:do web developers really get mad like this over ads internet nerds be like "gently caress your banner ads i use adblock " so the supernerds gotta be like " adblock is lame you guys are idiots"
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is it really that hard for some people to not look at ads
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Lysidas posted:(of course converting java source code is nowhere near as simple as it once was, because of the hosed generics design) on one hand java generics are poo poo. type erasure is really handy all none of the times. on the other hand it was mostly designed by martin odersky, who basically designed scala himself and is an awesome language that uses a load of neat tricks to get around the limitations of the jvm, which makes the me think that the reason generics are poo poo is the jvm/backwards compatibility.
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yeah it's not like sun didn't know how to implement generics in the jvm but by not doing so they kept the jvm stable and also didn't impose any new restrictions on the cool kids like scala and clojure and other poo poo that will keep the jvm rocking for another 10 years
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tef ive seen you say that in python strings are "infinitely deep" a couuple of times. what does this mean tia
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Hammerite posted:tef ive seen you say that in python strings are "infinitely deep" a couuple of times. what does this mean tia it means that indexing a string gives you another string, so you can do "fart"[0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0]...
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lol >>> repr(""[1:]) "''"
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Sang- posted:on one hand java generics are poo poo. type erasure is really handy all none of the times. yeah it's not exactly a secret that type erasure is because back compat
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Police Academy III posted:it means that indexing a string gives you another string, so you can do "fart"[0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0]... oh. i assumed it would be something more interesting than that. idk why you'd care much about that
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Hammerite posted:oh. i assumed it would be something more interesting than that. idk why you'd care much about that from what i've seen most of the complaints people seem to have about various languages are because they do things differently than other languages they've used
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just a butt posted:verilog systemverilog is the one true verilog
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ahhh spiders posted:most of the complaints people seem to have about various languages are because they do things differently than other languages they've used
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one of the biggest problems with many programming languages today is lovely documentation
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Sulk posted:one of the biggest problems with many programming languages today is lovely documentation
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