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text editor: Jan 8, 2007

tef posted:

http://programmersbeingdicks.tumblr.com/

their first hate-mailer posted:

I am a programmer and while you find the something-one-digit-percent of tech industry annoying by the way they see women, your post to myself as a programmer (yes, you guessed it, male) is abusing. You have classified my as a dick (you have abused me by name) and attempted to destroy my public image with these posts on the page. If you want respect on both side of the community (men towards women and vice-versa) why don�t you approach it in a more homane way by showing intellect instead of abusing programmers who respect women (such as me). I would therefore ask you to take the post DOWN if you have any respect to others and want sexism/discrimination to stop existing. This post only creates it - the other way around! Please note I do not give the right for my name, email address, IP address, ISP name to be published by yourself (judging by the post you would more then happily publish it with abusive comments around). This letter is my attempt to see and prove (or disprove) that programmers are not sexist and that you are a totally ignorant feminist who hates man (lesbian?). Prove or disprove by taking the page down (or not)� Your call.

# ? May 9, 2012 21:46

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# ? May 9, 2024 05:05

0xB16B00B5: Aug 24, 2006; by Y Kant Ozma Post

this is a blatant violation of my rights as a white male i demand you take it down
-tinselt0wn's lawyer

# ? May 9, 2012 21:53

Toady: Jan 12, 2009

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166030/PBD/etsy-techcrunch.png

# ? May 9, 2012 21:59

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

read this one if you want to see a petulant baby CEO melt down on twitter

quote:

@shanley @rekatz I don't even know you and you are attacking me, calling us sexist & atacking our brand. I have a family & don't like this

quote:

@shanley @johnnydiggz @csanz by the way, your employer is our client and I interviewed you to work for us before you went there. Email = pro

quote:

@csanz @antonyfalco @basho @shanley @basho if she didn't have "Product Basho" in her bio would be different. She represents your brand too.

# ? May 9, 2012 22:04

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

tef posted:

also nerds are terrible and I hate programming

# ? May 9, 2012 22:06

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

Toady posted:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166030/PBD/etsy-techcrunch.png

lol the end

# ? May 9, 2012 22:12

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

yaoi prophet posted:

read this one if you want to see a petulant baby CEO melt down on twitter

holy poo poo, my mouth dropped open when they started with making not-so-subtle "we can get you fired we know your boss" threats and her boss chimes in and is all "um... no."

# ? May 9, 2012 22:13

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

YOSPOS: I have a family & don't like this

# ? May 9, 2012 22:14

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

i love phil fish's tweets after he told that Japanese guy that the Japanese games industry sucks, at GDC, in front of a room full of people

# ? May 9, 2012 22:14

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

cussing? well i never *fans self, collapses onto fainting couch*

# ? May 9, 2012 22:16

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

mercutio didn't go nearly far enough. burn down everyone involved in that conversation on every side. techcrunch first

# ? May 9, 2012 22:19

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

Toady posted:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166030/PBD/etsy-techcrunch.png

# ? May 9, 2012 22:23

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

Toady posted:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166030/PBD/etsy-techcrunch.png

lmao

# ? May 9, 2012 22:24

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

please treat females like people

# ? May 9, 2012 22:25

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

ahhh spiders posted:

please treat females like people

whoa so it's ok to not treat men like people???? more evidence of how misandrist modern society is

# ? May 9, 2012 22:26

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

Toady posted:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/166030/PBD/etsy-techcrunch.png

this poo poo is ridic

article: hey here's some money for programmers of the female gender

girl saying "i am interested in doing this" gets a response of "i am interested in doing you"

# ? May 9, 2012 22:27

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Deuterieux posted:

holy poo poo, my mouth dropped open when they started with making not-so-subtle "we can get you fired we know your boss" threats and her boss chimes in and is all "um... no."

yeah pretty pleased with basho management these days

https://twitter.com/antonyfalco/status/200034239700414464

# ? May 9, 2012 22:29

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

kwinkles posted:

this poo poo is ridic

article: hey here's some money for programmers of the female gender

girl saying "i am interested in doing this" gets a response of "i am interested in doing you"

that's just lazy undersexed nerd crap though. look at some of the giant diatribes about how women shouldn't be in "male" professions

# ? May 9, 2012 22:29

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

1) what kind of a name is shanley
2) who gives a gently caress, god drat this is why i never post anything on twitter

# ? May 9, 2012 22:30

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

ahhh spiders posted:

that's just lazy undersexed nerd crap though. look at some of the giant diatribes about how women shouldn't be in "male" professions

one guy went out of his way to point out what will happen to "family values" or some poo poo if women don't stay in the kitchen

# ? May 9, 2012 22:30

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

Some enterprising young ex-tech workers create a brothel where programmers will feel comfortable enough to go. They decide that in order to attract normally shy and uncomfortable programmers, they should outfit the rooms with blinking lights, paint source code on the walls, and teach the prostitutes to make small talk about the differences between Vim and Emacs.

On opening day, a large line of sexless nerds forms at the facility to patronize a brothel that seems to make them feel welcome. The first person to tour the whorehouse and partake of the services within is Reddit admin hueypriest, a broken shell of a man who has never known the touch of a woman. One of the guides hired to show people takes hueypriest past the Mountain Dew nd beer bar to the Python room, to give him an example of the decor and to introduce him to some of the sex workers.

"Welcome to the Python room. As you can see, the walls include some of the most interesting quotes from Guido van Rossum, cool music visualizers displayed on the wall, written in Pygame that we allow you to hack to your liking, and his awesome bed shaped like the python logo. Also, what some may call our gimmick, we have staffed this room with 21-year-old Dutch girls who were born within 2 months and within 100 miles of where Python was created. Similarly, we have a Perl room down the hall for customers who prefer a slightly older Midwestern American woman, and even a C room for patrons who enjoy that MILF-look"

One of the girls piped up and joked "they tossed around the idea of adding in a LISP or Fortran room, but decided the market was probably too small."

"So," the toured guide asked, "did you want to check out the other rooms or do you already know what you want?"

Predictably, hueypriest responded "You wouldn't happen to have a C# or Scala room, would you?"' not because he is particularly interested or knowledgeable about either language but because hueypriest is a raging pedophile, like all Redditors.

# ? May 9, 2012 22:34

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

text editor posted:

Some enterprising young ex-tech workers create a brothel where programmers will feel comfortable enough to go. They decide that in order to attract normally shy and uncomfortable programmers, they should outfit the rooms with blinking lights, paint source code on the walls, and teach the prostitutes to make small talk about the differences between Vim and Emacs.

On opening day, a large line of sexless nerds forms at the facility to patronize a brothel that seems to make them feel welcome. The first person to tour the whorehouse and partake of the services within is Reddit admin hueypriest, a broken shell of a man who has never known the touch of a woman. One of the guides hired to show people takes hueypriest past the Mountain Dew nd beer bar to the Python room, to give him an example of the decor and to introduce him to some of the sex workers.

"Welcome to the Python room. As you can see, the walls include some of the most interesting quotes from Guido van Rossum, cool music visualizers displayed on the wall, written in Pygame that we allow you to hack to your liking, and his awesome bed shaped like the python logo. Also, what some may call our gimmick, we have staffed this room with 21-year-old Dutch girls who were born within 2 months and within 100 miles of where Python was created. Similarly, we have a Perl room down the hall for customers who prefer a slightly older Midwestern American woman, and even a C room for patrons who enjoy that MILF-look"

One of the girls piped up and joked "they tossed around the idea of adding in a LISP or Fortran room, but decided the market was probably too small."

"So," the toured guide asked, "did you want to check out the other rooms or do you already know what you want?"

Predictably, hueypriest responded "You wouldn't happen to have a C# or Scala room, would you?"' not because he is particularly interested or knowledgeable about either language but because hueypriest is a raging pedophile, like all Redditors.

# ? May 9, 2012 22:36

EIDE Van Hagar: Dec 8, 2000; Beep Boop

ahhh spiders posted:

that's just lazy undersexed nerd crap though. look at some of the giant diatribes about how women shouldn't be in "male" professions

yeah it's amazing what people will post from their facebook profiles

makes me think of this study where incoming college freshmen were pitched by the CS department and encouraged to major in CS

Half of them got the pitch in normal professional environment and half got it in a sperglord basement themed classroom with star trek posters

guess which group had more women interested in computer science

# ? May 9, 2012 22:41

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

dhh, Matt Aimonetti, and another dumb brogrammer (who probably 'ironically' writes LOLCODE on a regular basis) meet up on Friday night after Rubycon for their weekly group pussy-hunting adventure. After helping dhh find his sunglasses and pounding a Redbull vodka, they move on to their favorite local dive bar.

Two hours pass, and the men get frustrated that their innate ability to drive away all women with the tiniest shred of self-respect is once again conflicting with their mission, they decide that it's to to just hang out and get shitfaced.

"Don't worry guys, I've got something hilarious to show you, we can make a drinking game out of it!" says dhh.

Back at his place the guys each grab two fistfuls of beers while dhh pops "Grace Hopper does IBM: a XXX Mockumentary" into his DVD player. They have a blast drinking while watching the video, even laughing the third time a "hard drive" joke is made during the scene in the Pentagon mainframe room.

Amidst all the laughter, brogrammer #3 drunkenly makes a joke comparing one of the pornstar's limp dick to Ruby on Rails. A fight ensues and quickly escalates due to the alcohol and fragile egos, and ends with all 3 programmers lying dead in a pool of blood and broken glass.

Five years later, the enrollment and graduation rates of women in computer science has gone up 20-fold. An injection of skilled labor into the American workforce brings a swift end to the economic crisis and ushers in a new age of prosperity.

Also, no one remembers dhh and friends because they all moved on to good web frameworks like Django.

edit: Python supremacy

# ? May 9, 2012 23:30

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003; Can't post for 2 hours!

Argh that etsy thing is so depressing

What's with the subset of people that are threatened by literally everything

# ? May 10, 2012 00:34

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

Deuterieux posted:

cussing? well i never *fans self, collapses onto fainting couch*

we didn;t curse or call anyone unkind names, we are nice people. why yes we did snidely insinuate that we were going to try to get someone fired for tweeting an opinion we dont like, why do u ask

# ? May 10, 2012 00:43

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

text editor posted:

Some enterprising young ex-tech workers create a brothel where programmers will feel comfortable enough to go. They decide that in order to attract normally shy and uncomfortable programmers, they should outfit the rooms with blinking lights, paint source code on the walls, and teach the prostitutes to make small talk about the differences between Vim and Emacs.

On opening day, a large line of sexless nerds forms at the facility to patronize a brothel that seems to make them feel welcome. The first person to tour the whorehouse and partake of the services within is Reddit admin hueypriest, a broken shell of a man who has never known the touch of a woman. One of the guides hired to show people takes hueypriest past the Mountain Dew nd beer bar to the Python room, to give him an example of the decor and to introduce him to some of the sex workers.

"Welcome to the Python room. As you can see, the walls include some of the most interesting quotes from Guido van Rossum, cool music visualizers displayed on the wall, written in Pygame that we allow you to hack to your liking, and his awesome bed shaped like the python logo. Also, what some may call our gimmick, we have staffed this room with 21-year-old Dutch girls who were born within 2 months and within 100 miles of where Python was created. Similarly, we have a Perl room down the hall for customers who prefer a slightly older Midwestern American woman, and even a C room for patrons who enjoy that MILF-look"

One of the girls piped up and joked "they tossed around the idea of adding in a LISP or Fortran room, but decided the market was probably too small."

"So," the toured guide asked, "did you want to check out the other rooms or do you already know what you want?"

Predictably, hueypriest responded "You wouldn't happen to have a C# or Scala room, would you?"' not because he is particularly interested or knowledgeable about either language but because hueypriest is a raging pedophile, like all Redditors.

what do c# and scala have to do with pedophilia

# ? May 10, 2012 00:45

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003; Can't post for 2 hours!

idk about scala but c# has only been around for maybe 10 years or so

# ? May 10, 2012 01:08

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

Gentle Autist posted:

idk about scala but c# has only been around for maybe 10 years or so

oh i get it.

# ? May 10, 2012 01:23

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

yeah scala has been around like 9-10

# ? May 10, 2012 01:52

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Sulk posted:

1) what kind of a name is shanley
2) who gives a gently caress, god drat this is why i never post anything on twitter

has anyone told you to get out on this page?

still, raus.

# ? May 10, 2012 02:04

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

quote:

I'll just jump the shark. I feel sick and irritated today, so I won't pretend political correctness.

gently caress this feminist, sexist poo poo.

First, I am the most orderly developer you could ever meet. My desk is absolutely clean. Everything has a well defined technical purpose there. Whenever I leave, those purposes cease to exist so I eagerly remove or put away those objects. I could walk in any day, pick up my desktop and get seated anywhere else.

"computer games, science-fiction memorabilia and junk food"?! gently caress that, who cares about that poo poo anyway? I might have a clean mug, but I ain't never have no loving plant. How could I be the nit-picking detail-obsessing code freak I am if I was careless with my physical environment in the functional domain? (I don't give a poo poo about aesthetics, most of the time.) Some of my colleagues' desks seem to be covered with pig poo poo, and I don't cease chiding them for it.

I treat my female coworkers with respect, I politely discuss technical stuff with them if they feel like. I do make sexist jokes if I was able to get to know them sufficiently before, like any healthy male. They mostly laugh and if they don't, I apologize and tune it down. They don't refrain from spicy topics, we even discuss that kind. My wife's male coworkers behave the same way and I have no problem with that. American overdriven political correctness shall get the gently caress off my lawn.

"Missing out on best career opportunities?" Well, concentrate on the loving task at hand, not irrelevant details. Suppose I'd like to work in a fuckin' bakery but hate that the clothes are white (which doesn't mean in the least that they are clean). So who will start a crusade for me? If the circumstances of your otherwise coveted dream-job are accidental, try to change them. If they are intrinsic, live with them or leave.

I was never hostile towards women in IT. Women consider sexist jokes repugnant in conference presentations? Well, I don't go to no loving conference, because I hate to travel, I hate to spend money, I hate the crowd. Networking is a lie if you don't work with your peers on actual projects for longer times. Presentations are slow, linear, non-searchable. Give me a loving transcript, post it to reddit, and I'm happy. Can't recommend anything else to women either.

In my college class we had this beautiful girl with huge boobs. She was smarter than any guy in the whole class. Did we envy her? Did we hate her? Hell no. We respected her and we constantly tried to bring her in discussions for her insights. Did we talk about her body among ourselves? Hell yes, we're no monks!

The fact is, most girls cannot not care about stuff that's irrelevant in computer science / software engineering, and also lack the necessary attention to detail. They are simply not interested in it. Guess what, they have no place here, just like I could never be a historian or translator or lawyer or doctor, because I hate meeting new people. I'm not "enforcing" this or some poo poo like that, I simply accept that most girls are like this for whatever reason and I'm not trying to force them into IT. I'd rather be happy if some guys left software development. (Yeah, yeah, I'm conflating IT with compsci / sweng, who cares now.)

I practically don't shave, but I'm clean. I never ever stink. I'm not attractive to women I guess, but I don't give a flying gently caress. I've got a beautiful, intelligent, loving wife; I don't need to pretend. I wear sandals with socks because shoes are much too warm in the summer, and without socks I sweat like a pig. Don't like it? Have a good laugh; I don't care. I put on (clean) clothing items that are on the top of the respective stacks in my wardrobe. Are you a female who'd like to work as a software developer but you feel you cannot work with me because of my inconsistent clothing? Be a loving fashion model, then. I never treat, I never even feel an urge to treat female colleagues negatively because they aren't slender, young, or clothe "gray".

There is no problem with girls in IT. They're mostly not here because they don't want to. Pick any female-dominated non-sex-worker job. Yay, who is protecting the poor shunned males? American media is blowing this poo poo out of proportion again. (Or if the surveys are right, then american girls are out of their minds, which might be true anyways, with requiring an expensive as hell diamond ring for wedding, or so I read. WHAT THE gently caress?!)

The whole issue is being overcompensated now. On some technical forum I've seen somebody ask for advice on whatever. Another user replied with a link to women.debian.org. What the gently caress? Do we have "men.debian.org"? If you're no different wrt. technical matters, then you need no different website. If you need different treatment, then don't be surprised if you're treated differently.

I'm tired of this poo poo.

tef fucked around with this message at 02:11 on May 10, 2012

# ? May 10, 2012 02:07

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

thanks crazed plan9 users for preserving this reddit comment for posterity http://harmful.cat-v.org/political-correctness/girls-in-CS and I found the replies too http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/afc0z/geeks_drive_girls_out_of_computer_science/c0hajm3

tef fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 10, 2012

# ? May 10, 2012 02:08

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sulk posted:

1) what kind of a name is shanley
2) who gives a gently caress, god drat this is why i never post anything on twitter

sulk out of yospos, now and forever

# ? May 10, 2012 02:12

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Sulk posted:

1) what kind of a name is shanley
2) who gives a gently caress, god drat this is why i never post anything on twitter

1) the name of somebody i respect a lot
2) you should never post anything on yospos either

# ? May 10, 2012 02:13

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

yaoi prophet posted:

read this one if you want to see a petulant baby CEO melt down on twitter

jesus loving christ

# ? May 10, 2012 02:14

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

WASHINGTON�After decades spent battling gender discrimination and inequality in the workplace, the feminist movement underwent a high-level shake-up last month, when 53-year-old management consultant Peter "Buck" McGowan took over as new chief of the worldwide initiative for women's rights.

McGowan, who now oversees the group's day-to-day operations, said he "couldn't be happier" to bring his ambition, experience, and no-nonsense attitude to his new role as the nation's top feminist.

"All the feminist movement needed to do was bring on someone who had the balls to do something about this glass ceiling business," said McGowan, who quickly closed the 23.5 percent gender wage gap by "making a few calls to the big boys upstairs." "In the world of gender identity and empowered female sexuality, it's all about who you know."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-finally-put-in-charge-of-struggling-feminist-m,2338/

# ? May 10, 2012 02:14

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

http://gklst.tumblr.com/post/19734620901/geeklist-and-a-public-apology

best--acne-treatments reblogged this from gklst

# ? May 10, 2012 02:15

CaptainMeatpants: Jun 1, 2010

lol @ self-important manchildren unable to run companies

# ? May 10, 2012 02:21

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# ? May 9, 2024 05:05

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

entrepreneurs, please

# ? May 10, 2012 02:24

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