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Boaz MacPhereson posted:The Enzo is hideous and looks like a shoe. The Enzo always looked like Ferrari stole the design for the next-gen NSX and slapped four round taillights on it.
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ynotony posted:320hp, RWD, light (<3200lbs), four seats, hatch... Why can't this exist in the US? I think it may be the perfect car for me. Is the Ferrari FF the only thing in the US that is a sporty 4 seat RWD-ish hatch/shooting-brake thing? I think the side profile you've picked is really flattering, but then you get to the front and...  I know looks are subjective, but am I in the minority for thinking it just looks wierd? Its like the face of a cheerful but dopey dog.
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Manny posted:I think the side profile you've picked is really flattering, but then you get to the front and... I've noticed all the current BMWs look a little off in 2D photos. But when you see them in person they look pretty great. I saw my first one of these last year and it looked way better. I feel the same about the new 3 and 5 - they make a lot of sense in person.
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May 18, 2012 18:38
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Manny posted:I know looks are subjective, but am I in the minority for thinking it just looks wierd? Its like the face of a cheerful but dopey dog. Not alone. I think it looks loving terrible. It's easily one of the ugliest front ends ever slapped on a car in my opinion.
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May 18, 2012 19:40
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I absolutely hated it at first but I reckon it looks a little better in person as someone mentioned above. I think UGLIEST EVER is stretching it a bit, though.
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May 18, 2012 20:47
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Having the headlights larger than the grille makes it look like some animu O_O thing. Or something, it definitely looks downsy.
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BoostCreep posted:Not alone. I think it looks loving terrible. It's easily one of the ugliest front ends ever slapped on a car in my opinion. The more I look at it, the more I think it looks fantastic actually. Now that cars have all these complex surfaces you can't really appreciate the design in a 2D picture. You're missing a lot of the design elements. edit: For example, the headlights on the 1 are more on the side of the car than the front. Hard to tell in a front shot, it gets distorted. You have no sense of depth. ynotony fucked around with this message at 21:12 on May 18, 2012 |
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Not a new car, but this hardly warrants a thread and I can't contain myself so I'll post it here. I drove a 2010 Nissan GT-R at work today. OH. MY. GOD.  What a loving machine. What a glorious, amazing, frightening beast. The punch from 1-2 was like a shotgun blast. The faster you turned, the harder it gripped. The rev matching on downshift made my dick leak. I mean, I don't even...it's just....gently caress it I can't explain it. If you ever get the opportunity, drive one. Pay money to do so if you have to. Just do it. Thank me later.
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May 18, 2012 21:35
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VikingSkull posted:Not a new car, but this hardly warrants a thread and I can't contain myself so I'll post it here. Love it. This is why reading actual auto journalist reviews and bickering is kind of silly. It doesn't take much for the average driver to cream their pants.
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May 19, 2012 00:20
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kimbo305 posted:But the price difference between a nice MS3 and the loaded-to-the-gills 3 is only $1000 or so, with the main difference being the seats (MS3 not full leather or power adjust). You can option a Focus Titanium out to more than a base ST without much effort.
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May 19, 2012 00:51
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So Ralph Gilles was on autoline after hours to talk about how the Viper is the best car ever. http://www.autoline.tv/journal/?p=21620
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May 19, 2012 23:12
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First test numbers for the 2013 GT500 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1205_2013_ford_shelby_gt500_first_test/ 0-60mph in 3.5 seconds 0-100mph in 7.7 seconds 11.6@125.7mph quarter mile. That quarter mile slots it in nicely between the 458 italia and the mercedes SLS AMG for strait line speed. It sounds like it's a lot easier to handle than the old car as well.
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May 21, 2012 05:53
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Shame about how ugly this generation of Mustang is though.
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except it's not.
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Faerunner posted:Shame about how ugly this generation of Mustang is though.
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Powershift posted:First test numbers for the 2013 GT500 This is pretty cool, when I'm 60 I'm going to tell my kids about how I could go out and buy a factory car that had six hunnert horsepower and would get my rear end thrown out of a dragstrip for exceeding the rollbar breakout ET from the showroom floor for under 60k out the door  YEA IT EVEN HAD A FOUR Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 16:35 on May 21, 2012 |
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Muffinpox posted:This is pretty cool, when I'm 60 I'm going to tell my kids about how I could go out and buy a factory car that had six hunnert horsepower and would get my rear end thrown out of a dragstrip for exceeding the rollbar breakout ET from the showroom floor for under 60k out the door Grandkids.
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May 21, 2012 16:31
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Muffinpox posted:This is pretty cool, when I'm 60 I'm going to tell my kids about how I could go out and buy a factory car that had six hunnert horsepower and would get my rear end thrown out of a dragstrip for exceeding the rollbar breakout ET from the showroom floor for under 60k out the door pff, whatever grandpa *twiddles on smartphone* Also, what's a "dragstripe"? I thought we got rid of all of those for being noisy.
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May 21, 2012 17:14
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Cream_Filling posted:pff, whatever grandpa *twiddles on smartphone* It's that 400 meter section of asphalt next to the Soylent Green factory. I guess it's not a new car but I did finally test drive the 2012 optima sx yesterday. That's my backup car in case the 2013 Fusion isn't all it's cracked up to be, and I think I'd be pretty happy with it. Only things that bugged me were the parking brake hangs down too close to the dead pedal and the turn signal/wiper switches are too close to the paddle shifters. The salesman wanted so badly to compare the two but since the Fusion doesn't exist yet there's not much he could say.
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On the subject of the GT500, 200mph out the factory for $54k. And it'll do 24 USMPG on a run. I can pay more than that for a 320d in the UK. Holy Jesusfuck.
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Faerunner posted:Shame about how ugly this generation of Mustang is though. They've kind of gotten away from the 2005 retro-refresh a bit in the front.
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Keyser S0ze posted:They've kind of gotten away from the 2005 retro-refresh a bit in the front. I think the 2005 looks better overall honestly.
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Rhyno posted:I think the 2005 looks better overall honestly.
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662hp. My god.
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Keyser S0ze posted:They've kind of gotten away from the 2005 retro-refresh a bit in the front. All the Mustangs 2005+ are rear end-ugly.
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Endless Mike posted:Same, but I'd much rather have the 5.0. If they had made a Bullitt Edition, I'd be seriously considering that instead of the Focus. (I realize these are not commonly cross-shopped cars.) Agreed. It can't be too much work to do a swap though right?
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Faerunner posted:All the Mustangs 2005+ are rear end-ugly They're not fantastic, awkward proportions kind of kill them. But compared to the abomination they replaced, they're rolling artwork. In retrospect, the SN95 was a really dark period for the Mustang. And the New Edge SN95s improved on that horribleness somewhat in exchange for god-awful styling, the worst styled Mustang ever built I'd say. Honestly, the 94-04 cars probably should have been badged as Mustang IIs... The current car, there's really nothing wrong with it that can't be fixed by making it not so absolutely loving humongous.
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Q_res posted:They're not fantastic, awkward proportions kind of kill them. But compared to the abomination they replaced, they're rolling artwork. In retrospect, the SN95 was a really dark period for the Mustang. And the New Edge SN95s improved on that horribleness somewhat in exchange for god-awful styling, the worst styled Mustang ever built I'd say. Honestly, the 94-04 cars probably should have been badged as Mustang IIs... You hit the nail right on the head, they were a breath of fresh air compared to what we had. The Fox bodies were "ugly" but it was a classic, sensible ugly. The SN95 was just horrible. To me they look like a Cavalier.
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Q_res posted:They're not fantastic, awkward proportions kind of kill them. But compared to the abomination they replaced, they're rolling artwork. In retrospect, the SN95 was a really dark period for the Mustang. And the New Edge SN95s improved on that horribleness somewhat in exchange for god-awful styling, the worst styled Mustang ever built I'd say. Honestly, the 94-04 cars probably should have been badged as Mustang IIs... I like the last gen before the '05s a LOT better.
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You people are all crazy for liking the 05 model over the recent one. Straight up crazy.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:You people are all crazy for liking the 05 model over the recent one. Straight up crazy. I must be super crazy for wanting a GT in that powder blue that I see a few V6s in. To bad I do think think any exist. Pure 70s class that powder blue.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:You people are all crazy for liking the 05 model over the recent one. Straight up crazy. I thought this was the general consensus but maybe not. The new ones are far better looking in my opinion though. The powder blue is a beautiful color and there's no shame in liking it. 
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:You people are all crazy for liking the 05 model over the recent one. Straight up crazy. Absolutely. The 05+ cars were definitely a step in the right direction, but they just look so tame and innocent compared to the newer models. I never really considered Mustangs a major "presence" car since they're so ubiquitous, but seeing the newer, and especially higher performing models on the road really get my attention. I think Ford's overall design language has come into its own lately, and while Dodge or Chevy have done decently well in creating sufficiently muscle-y looking cars the new Mustang is the only stand-out masterpiece. It's a car that will still look great 20 years from now.
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Previa_fun posted:I thought this was the general consensus but maybe not. The new ones are far better looking in my opinion though. If you're ever in Hawaii you'll learn to hate powder-blue convertible Mustangs since every other car there seems to be one. It's worse than Priuses in LA.
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law abiding rapist posted:If you're ever in Hawaii you'll learn to hate powder-blue convertible Mustangs since every other car there seems to be one. It's worse than Priuses in LA. They're the rental cars, at least on Maui. I wonder if they're still buying Sebrings / 200s for convertibles too? Also I saw a TV commercial where a Mustang goes through a bunch of different color combos/ grille styles (including Boss 302 and '13 Shelby).
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CharlesM posted:They're the rental cars, at least on Maui. I wonder if they're still buying Sebrings / 200s for convertibles too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiyhXf_KVc0
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So I was talking about how Mazda is probably hosed and they need to find someone to own/partner with before the strong yen kills them, and I suggested that Chrysler/FIAT was the ideal partner. Well this just loving happened. quote:Mazda Press Release: Mazda and Fiat announce co-operation program A RWD Alfa, made in Japan.  EDIT: Wrap it up BRZailures. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 14:48 on May 23, 2012 |
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 Renault Alpine A110-50. To be unveiled the day after tomorrow in Monaco. It's based on the RenaultSport Megane Trophy and is powered by the same mid-mounted 3.5 litre V6, which is good for 400 french horses and 420Nm. The engine (as far as I can find, this could be idle speculation for all I know) is a Y4V derivative, which is essentially a re-badged Nissan VQ35DE. The transmission is the same 6-speed sequential unit that the Megane Trophy uses. http://d.yimg.com/nl/autos/site/player.html#lang=fr-FR&vid=29371440 Very short teaser video, with cheesy music. However it does leave the impression that the picture is not a render but an actual photo of the car. Either way it's porn on wheels in my opinion. Why can't all cars be beautiful like this?
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To get the obvious out of the way first, because you can't see poo poo out of that greenhouse.
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