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Gold Dust Gasoline
Jul 11, 2006

just be yourself and you'll be fine
Pillbug

rotor posted:

this is true a lot of places, financial and otherwise

if you are immune to heart-sink-into-feets moments then you pretty much dont work

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gangnam reference
Dec 26, 2010

shut up idiot shut up idiot shut up idiot shut up idiot
yeah I heard it was just worse in finance but I guess not necessarily so?

edit: also tell me how horrible cobol is all i know is basic!!!

gangnam reference fucked around with this message at 08:31 on May 24, 2012

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
behold the future of perl muahahaha

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

everyone please stop writing perl

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Gogey posted:

yeah I heard it was just worse in finance but I guess not necessarily so?

edit: also tell me how horrible cobol is all i know is basic!!!
page duck monster to this thread

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!

my stepdads beer posted:

everyone please stop writing perl

no

ok good discussion

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

Casao posted:

no

ok good discussion

every perl i have ever seen has been incomprehensible soup

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
perl is great, autoviv is great, man i am really starting to like it a lot

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Jonny 290 posted:

perl is great, autoviv is great, man i am really starting to like it a lot
you're too good a poster to start such a transparent perl gimmick

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
no gimmick, perl puts bread on my table. its good poo poo

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

Resplendent Spiral posted:

what's up with this thing i hear where there's some freaky server based version of excel that gets used

one of our competitors basically migrated all their Excel/VBA to a huge windows cluster somehow, I don't know the details but apparently it can be done and must have only made sense from a wage cost standpoint

Ridgely_Fan posted:

it seems like a lot of the math that funds do is high-dimensional integrals that they have to use mcmc / gibbs / whatever sampling for, and it seems like that stuff would be pretty amenable to cuda

but maybe that's way off base

some of the big problems are very parallel like valuing derivatives portfolios which uses a lot of fancy math as you said

it may or may not surprise you to learn that until very recently there was a 1+ month lag in knowing the value and other metrics of a big portfolio, as of 2008 volatility made this impossible to remain status quo and as a result even relatively small shops like ours have 1000+ cores working 24/7 to value our holdings the the ultimate goal of real-time valuation and risk measurement, but even today we're lucky if we're 2 days behind

Gogey posted:

Really cause I heard the bad thing about working in the financial sector as CS is horrible hours, constant strict deadlines and pressure, and the knowledge that if you gently caress up, you gently caress up a lot of things hard?

it depends, if you work in retail banking for example it's basically big office IT but if you work in capital markets where JPM just lost $5b in a month, it can be much more intense

pay is commensurate though so there's a pretty smooth spectrum of options available depending on your personality and goals

trex eaterofcadrs
Jun 17, 2005
My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

Internaut! posted:

one of our competitors basically migrated all their Excel/VBA to a huge windows cluster somehow, I don't know the details but apparently it can be done and must have only made sense from a wage cost standpoint

Might not have been too hard:
http://blogs.office.com/b/microsoft-excel/archive/2010/02/08/calculating-excel-models-on-an-hpc-cluster.aspx

Dante
Feb 8, 2003

yaoi prophet posted:

one of my favorite classes i ever took was how technology influences the way people communicate, we covered stuff like why people still say 'hi this is X' even though caller ID makes it pointless (it's to make sure that the other person can hear you and can respond)
That seems wrong because I don't do it to anyone I know personally and they don't do it to me either. I'm pretty sure people still only say that when they're calling someone they don't know personally, as an introduction.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!

Jonny 290 posted:

no gimmick, perl puts bread on my table. its good poo poo
this but I actually like perl better than the alternative languages for my purpose

Perl is for making my life easier

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
perl is fine

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

my stepdads beer posted:

everyone please stop writing perl

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
but my perl code is readable :smug:

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
no its not

trex eaterofcadrs
Jun 17, 2005
My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.
i wish perl were a little more restrictive with the vast number of ways you can do the same poo poo, other than that, A++++++, good language, would use again

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Shaggar posted:

no its not

A COMPUTER GUY
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.

Dante posted:

That seems wrong because I don't do it to anyone I know personally and they don't do it to me either. I'm pretty sure people still only say that when they're calling someone they don't know personally, as an introduction.

i think this is kinda dependent on whether or not you grew up with caller id. most of us did so we just know who's calling before we answer, but my grandparents didn't have it so they always say "hi ulysses this is your grandpa/grandma!" when they call me

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

it depends on who I talk to whether I do it, for offices I know, always, cellphones and offices I don't, no.

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...
asm's not that bad, gets a bad rap

tedious more than anything

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

JawnV6 posted:

asm's not that bad, gets a bad rap

tedious more than anything

mlyp

CaptainMeatpants
Jun 1, 2010

someone post the cobol time traveler story please and thanks

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

JawnV6 posted:

asm's not that bad, gets a bad rap

tedious more than anything

it's bad because it's tedious

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...
eh, when i want things to happen within ns it's not like i can toss it through an OS or w/e

Sweeper
Nov 29, 2007
The Joe Buck of Posting
Dinosaur Gum

Gogey posted:

yeah I heard it was just worse in finance but I guess not necessarily so?

edit: also tell me how horrible cobol is all i know is basic!!!

I've interned at SIG (http://www.sig.com/) and Amazon and SIG was definitely a more stressful environment. You could tell that the smallest mistake meant losing tons of money, it turned me off working for a financial company. Amazon is a lot more laid back, but it may be a west coast/east coast thing idk

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

JawnV6 posted:

eh, when i want things to happen within ns it's not like i can toss it through an OS or w/e

list of things the average programmer needs to happen within ns:

blorpy
Jan 5, 2005

JawnV6 posted:

eh, when i want things to happen within ns it's not like i can toss it through an OS or w/e
so wait, is this code running in ring 0 or?

blorpy
Jan 5, 2005

Fren posted:

list of things the average programmer needs to happen within ns:
how long they last in bed (beats the usual fs)

blorpy
Jan 5, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

page duck monster to this thread
no

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
time to savagely optimize this code into an unreadable mess

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



JawnV6 posted:

eh, when i want things to happen within ns it's not like i can toss it through an OS or w/e

this post would make sense if mov was a privileged instruction

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
mov zig for great justice

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Markov Chain Chomp posted:

so wait, is this code running in ring 0 or?
the sole implication of 'there is an OS booted on the system when my code is running'

Nomnom Cookie posted:

this post would make sense if mov was a privileged instruction
lol wait when did i boot an OS

blorpy
Jan 5, 2005

JawnV6 posted:

the sole implication of 'there is an OS booted on the system when my code is running'

lol wait when did i boot an OS
youre really cranky

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

CaptainMeatpants posted:

someone post the cobol time traveler story please and thanks

the punchline is that in the year 9999 they still need cobol programmers

you can reverse engineer the rest from that

also

Jonny 290 posted:

no gimmick, perl puts bread on my table. its good poo poo

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
but the voice of cobol must be heard (it's a strained raspy voice punctuated by coughing fits brought on by years in smoke filled offices)

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Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Sweeper posted:

Amazon is a lot more laid back
haha

bwahahahahaha

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