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quote:We are by far the most humiliated club in all the land, i didnt think would get any worse than lasagne, throwing aaway 13 pt lead on Arse, this takes it by far. So many implications. But in all seriosuness are we cursed as a club?
So many things conspirea gainst us in teh footballing world, i really think we may be cursed. Does anyone know anything about witch doctors black magic etc?
quote:The Jews angle, for sure...
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Hello police I want to report an incident. . . Chelsea FC have just robbed the champions league and murdered football and the idea that the best team wins
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Wrong thread?
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I'm sorry to say it, but I think I'm done with this altogether. I'm going to wash my hands of football. Believe me, this is not a decision to take lightly, I've been a Spurs fan since I could walk and it's been the most consistent love throughout my entire life. Tonight, however, was the fatal blow. I can't accept that something out of my control can cause me this much pain, and I feel stupid talking like this about a loving sport. A sport which is corrupt to the core and based purely around the financial strength of the companies (yes companies, not teams) which take part. There's something about Spurs which is just destined to be tragic as well, I can't think of a club which has had to go through things like lasagnegate and tonight. I don't know what it is about Spurs, but we're destined to be dicked on and trampled in the ground no matter what. And believe me, Modric and Bale don't feel any of this that we're feeling. They're on to their agents right now trying to jump ship. What's the point. Anyway, I'm going to Wembley tomorrow with my brother who's a Luton fan and we're going to watch a proper game of football played by proper teams, and I'm thinking I might just become a Luton fan if I can't shake football altogether.
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I'm sorry to say it, but I think I'm done with this altogether. I'm going to wash my hands of football. Believe me, this is not a decision to take lightly, I've been a Spurs fan since I could walk and it's been the most consistent love throughout my entire life. Tonight, however, was the fatal blow. I can't accept that something out of my control can cause me this much pain, and I feel stupid talking like this about a loving sport. A sport which is corrupt to the core and based purely around the financial strength of the companies (yes companies, not teams) which take part. There's something about Spurs which is just destined to be tragic as well, I can't think of a club which has had to go through things like lasagnegate and tonight. I don't know what it is about Spurs, but we're destined to be dicked on and trampled in the ground no matter what. And believe me, Modric and Bale don't feel any of this that we're feeling. They're on to their agents right now trying to jump ship. What's the point. Anyway, I'm going to Wembley tomorrow with my brother who's a Luton fan and we're going to watch a proper game of football played by proper teams, and I'm thinking I might just become a Luton fan if I can't shake football altogether.
haha this man has just realised that money dictates everything about the game and that football is 'corrupt to the core' when he literally supports a club managed by Harry Redknapp
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haha this man has just realised that money dictates everything about the game and that football is 'corrupt to the core' when he literally supports a club managed by Harry Redknapp
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Babby Thatcher posted:
haha this man has just realised that money dictates everything about the game and that football is 'corrupt to the core' when he literally supports a club managed by Harry Redknapp
Spurs have a billionaire owner too don't they?
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Spurs have a billionaire owner too don't they?
Yes, and he's a tax dodger and made the majority of his wealth from the UK's economic misery.
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quote:I'm out of town but I am wearing my jersey from the SECOND I get home until I go to bed the next evening. Such a wonderful feeling. As much as I love winning, I honestly hope some other team gets it next year so that they can feel as amazing as we Chelsea fans have tonight.
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Rats raining down in the night during the Stanley Cup finals.
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I'm petrified of rafa being overlooked. Can't get my mind off this. Feel under a lot of stress at the minute just at the thought of the owners overlooking him. If he gets the job I'll probably be in tears out of relief.
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quote:this whole rafa debacle reminds me of the film Gladiator. You have FSG who are like Commodus (the new Caesar) and Rafa who is our maximus. Thrown out of the club and left in the wilderness where he has become a wild beast.
The baying mob of rome (some of us fans) are cheering for maximus' return and finally when Maximus (Rafa) and commodus (FSG) meet, commodus will say "What am I going to do with you, you simply won't...die"
And then Maximus will pull out his two figurines (not his son and wife) but in this case it is his European cup and FA cup which is all he has to remember us by and put them on the table and slay commodus and we will all cheer and rejoice.
That sort of how I see it anyway.
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Jesus, I almost can't type this because I can't see the keys through the tears. How much more of himself does Kenny have to give to LFC?
He never left anything behind him on the pitch. He never left anything behind as the gaffer. He almost lost his sanity in the aftermath of Hillsborough taking on the grief of families and fans. I remember the day he signed, I remember his first goal, I remember his first stint as manager. I've watched the years and cares of life take it's toll on his face (pretty much in tandem with my own) and seen them wiped out in the simple joy of the redmen scoring. Look at his simple celebration... unchanged through all that time. I remember him walking out of the tunnel for the second time as manager and fearing my heart would burst from sheer joy.
But I hope to Christ that I forget as quickly as possible the heartbreak and grief and blind rage from the last 30 hours that I haven't been able to come to any kind of terms with yet, and do as Kenny has asked and support the club and his successor as he will undoubtedly do himself.
As always in everything he has ever done for Liverpool he is a shining example to anyone who has anything to do with Liverpool.
You are only too right Kenny
YOU will NEVER walk alone.
I read earlier in Q's post that Kenny has donated his contract severance to the transfer fund. That can't be right can it - when the ONLY beneficiaries will be the loving bastards that SACKED THE LEGEND?? There must be many many other causes - linked to the real Liverpool fans - that any money Kenny declines to receive could go to.
It's an extraordinarily generous thing for the unassuming and highly principled man that Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish truly is to do.
In the teeth of such shameful, barefaced back-stabbing disregard by his former employers for ALL that the man has done for the club and all that he is and yes, all that he will remain to the real terrace owners of Liverpool Football Club - he has shown how the possessors of real class behave.
The PLC has outrageously banished a legend but KMD is locked into the hearts of the TRUE followers of Liverpool Football Club - the old-style FANS - and they will NEVER forget.
Final Score: KMD 5 FSG 0.
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quote:Let us consider some aspects of sporting integrity in the season just completed.
Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan's cash injected Man City beat the Glazer's "more than half a billion of debt" Man Utd to the English Premier League Title.
Debt loaded, government supported Real Madrid beat debt loaded, government supported Barcelona to La Liga. They can now buy another worthless piece of land to sell to their government for several millions.
Debt loaded, triple HMRC winding-up order Hearts beat Hibs with five loan players to the Scottish Cup.
Russian oligarch, Abramovic's plaything, Chelsea, beat Bayern Munich, AKA FC Hollywood, to the Champions' League.
The SPL clubs prepare to vote on exactly how many points and how much cash they will take from a fellow club, and therefore how much they themselves will benefit.
The SFA decide to hit a club with potentially no players with a transfer embargo. For the appeal they choose Lord Carloway who famously recommended that evidence need not be corroborated in criminal trials.
Ironic, given our case and the clear lack of proof as evidenced by statements such as "must have known" in the absence of any real smoking gun.
Hmm. Why would Regan appoint such a fellow? Sporting integrity? (Pause here to let the chuckling pass.)
A manager and club who have bullied referees and officials whilst consciously and strategically stoking up the flames of sectarian bigotry takes the title as the main rival is removed from the race. That same club also used EBTs and knowingly employed dubious and sinister characters.
And the media take on all of this?
Rangers must be punished more and more heavily. Well, that's the media for you. They pander to the lowest common denominator whilst using hyperbole and sensationalism. We should be familiar with their modus operandi by now.
However, to me, the governing body should be protecting the game in general and the member clubs. Even if they thought that this decision, which their 60 pages of so-called justification signally failed to prove as verified by the factthat they had no proof of their allegations, they should have held back on confirmation of any penalty since we could potentially be losing all our players.
Their ruling, which has merely compounded their ill considered action and its effects, means that we could possibly be playing a team of under 18s next season. This is a ludicrous, cruel and unusual punishment that restricts a professional football club- one that has to consider moving players to restructure and rebalance finances- negatively, and irrevocably. It devastatingly impacts upon a member club in both core aspects of a modern football club's well being- the playing staff and the balance sheet.
This assessment is not contingent upon the club in question being Rangers. It is a universally applicable standard that should be a given in such circumstances. It would apply to Hearts, Hibs, East Fife, Dumbarton or Celtic. Any club whose finances have brought it to its knees, especially under the auspices of now absent former owners, deserves the right to fight for its very existence. We are being denied that key right at araguable the most crucial point in our existence.
The ability to trade in the major asset of the relevant business sector is key to the well-being of any business. To be unable to do that, even for one year, is a serious penalty. To add that at a financially troubled period is immensely harmful, perhaps fatal. For a governing body to consciously choose to do that, seems contrary to the purpose of a business sector's watchdog.
The knock on effects for the game in general needn't be considered. The governing body has abrogated its responsibilities. Far from being a benevolent supervisor, the SFA are now clearly acting like a malicious bully.
Is it a coincidence that this happens under the reign of Peter Lawwell approved Stuart Regan? Does the record of Vincent Lunny, the new SFA Compliance Officer- or "Lawwell's Compliant Officer" as he has become known- also display some interesting inconsistencies?
Perhaps they did the right thing. The media insisted, daily and nightly, that "Rangers must be punished!" The SFA merely bowed to public opinion, as it was presented, in the modern day Scottish media. Hugh Keevins rightly labelled it a "blood lust". Even Graham Spiers said it was "unseemly" and revealed genuine hatred a gloating. Sadly such rare and honest commentaries were short lived as the two old hacks got back into the blood lust, with the latter pointing out that Juventus were relegated for match fixing. The false analogy between Craig Whyte's secrecy over his fitness and suitability as an office bearer and actually rigging results was made. It didn't die on the airwaves. It had its intended effect.
Let's point out one of the very many things, inconvenient things, that the media have omitted during all these days and weeks of intense wall to wall coverage. With such a feeding frenzy, how could they miss anything in this maelstrom, you might ask? Don't bother. Some things don't fit the narrative.
The elephant in the living room, if it hasn't transformed into circus due to the sheer number of elephants it appears to hold, is that Rangers have been punished repeatedly and may be further punished by various relevant bodies as appropriate to their jurisdiction and judgement. The "Wee Tax Case" was for £2.8m with £1.4m of a penalty. The withholding of PAYE, VAT and NIC brought about administration. Even if Whyte started the process, it was merely due to HMRC's impending decision to do so themselves. Administration brought a 10 point penalty and its own transfer embargo. There is also the one year exclusion from Europe for not submitting audited accounts by the deadline.
The SFA have now added a fine and a further transfer embargo. Add them up. That's six punishments. There are also potential penalties for the "Big Tax Case" and in relation to the SPL, there are cases investigating irregularities in the payment of salaries and the possible admission of a newco. These constitute another three avenues for punishment, in some cases, possibly in multiple forms such as financial restrictions, points deductions and an additional European exclusion, potentially making a total of more than ten punishments. Yet this shows no sign of satisfying the blood lust.
However, the SFA transfer embargo is the cruel and unusual one that seems strange and malicious, especially coming from the supposed governing body. They justify their decision with claiming, "only match fixing was worse". Match fixing? Where did that come from? Oh I remember. Look back a few paragraphs.
It's almost transparent, isn't it? A transparent SFA? Who wanted that? Oh yes! It was Peter. Good for him. He has his shiny new transparent and compliant SFA. It's a master stroke. Made to measure. Peter's agenda has made it to where it matters and he's kept everybody onside. Strachan's three in a row wasn't "Celtic minded" enough for the fans. He had to go. Cue the fighting Irish, Catholic, Republican and very, very angry Neil Lennon. His first title vicotry in three attempts, assisted by the removal of the opposition, will be enough to ensure that this most Celtic-minded of fellows, ever pandering to the accusational victim mentality, remains at Celtic for a while. It allows them to play the fuax identity to their advantage, whilst pandering to the bigoted agenda of their support- a support who have targeted Rangers for years going way back before recent hasty and clumsy UEFA interventions.
Have Celtic as a club genuinely pandered to this sectarian agenda? Let me remind you of two remarks made by the anti-establishment Baron Reid of Cardowan, formerly Lord Reid and former Defence and Home Secretary at two recent Celtic AGMs. One year he alluded to Rangers as "Holy Willies across the city" in a clear reference to Burns' seering critique of "The Kirk". Another year he was stating in relation to refereeing decisions that his "people will no longer accept being treated as second class citizens" which implied that universally erratic refereeing decisions indicated a social, political and cultural segregation or even apartheid when the decisions went against Celtic. He was also keen stoke up the partisan nature of the Old Firm offensive song debate, whilst unsurprisingly turning a deaf ear to the Parkhead bigots. Martin O'Neill would be exhibit B in the evidence here, which would also lengthen the time-scale. He too stoked the flames of sectarianism in that particularly one-sided way that Celtic specialise in. I think I'll let you be the judge of whether Celtic, as a club, have consciously pandered to their bigoted elements.
So that leads us to the point of all this campaigning and propagandising. The goal was simple- to eliminate the rival by all means, and it wasn't just for rivalry. It smacks of cultural ethnic cleansing. The airwaves have willingly carried bitter and twisted voices of the zealots. Guilt has already been apportioned, before any judgement has been offered. You can hear genuine hatred in each voice that demands the utmost in punishment. It's almost a competition with its bizarre contributions being too preposterous to repeat.
Well, even if they have been using Lawwell's strange and contradictory concept of "sporting integrity", at least nobody has dared to use Baron Reid's propagandising slogan of "without fear or favour". drat it, I've just read an article on the words of SPL chief, Neil Doncaster and he's now peddling that particular Reid line. Perhaps this is just another insignificant coincidence.
Nonetheless, the very same agenda has made its way to the top table of our game. Never has the SFA been less fit for purpose, unless your name is Peter Lawwell, of course. The purpose of harming Rangers' ability to compete is quite close to your heart in that case. The agenda is undeniably sectarian to some extent, so we may have to accept that sectarianism is alive and kicking in Scotland, even if it plays no part in most of our daily lives and thoughts. The strange and telling irony is that the latest and most public victim of sectarianism isn't a person, it's a club, a culture, an identity, a history and an idea. The knives may be drawn and the vultures may be circling, but we will not yield. You cannot kill an idea and you cannot erase a history.
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The Spanish side broke through and scored in the 41st minute when forward Aritz Aduriz made a nice turn on the ball in traffic and lasered a right-footed shot into the left corner past Portland goalkeeper Troy Perkins.
Valencia buzzed around Perkins, who got some oohs and aahs when he casually deked Aduriz and cleared the ball just a few feet in front of his goal.
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A thread called: "Will Rooney ever be the best player in the world?"
quote:I think this could turn out to be an interesting discussion and worthy of its own thread
when he first appeared at 16 YO, wenger said he never seen an english player like him. signed by one of the biggest clubs in the world at 18, scored a CL hattrick, was the most spectacular player of the Euro 2004. At 18-19was setting records left and right. I think by this point the consensus was that this player would someday on to become the best in the world. he'll be 27 this year and so far hasnt yet been the best player in europe, let alone the world.
Can he someday fullfilled those expectations? best player in the world? or best european player? (beating cristiano ronaldo, iniesta, and the host of other spaniards)
quote:That title is heavily skewed towards goal scorers which is only one of Rooney's assets. If United start playing a formation where Rooney doesn't have to track back and defend and is only used as an offensive threat then yes I do think he could be. His offensive numbers would increase and make a bigger case for him. By doing that though you would take away his versatility on the field which is what makes him such an important player at the moment and what's the point in under-utilizing a player's potential?
Casillas has been the undisputed best goalkeeper in the world for the last 5 years. I've yet to read or meet someone who says he isn't. Why is he never getting mentioned when it comes time to say who the world's best player is? Because no one cares about defensive aspects of the game when it comes to individual ''awards''
For those reasons Ronaldo and Messi have that title under lock until a younger, more appealing offensive starlet comes around.
Here's a counter question: Is there a more complete all star player in the world than Rooney ?
Edit: Just thought about it a bit more. Who was the last English player to be the world's best player ? Maybe Rooney is the best English player of all time but that doesn't mean he is the best in the world. Maybe English players just aren't that good...
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What does Liverpool fans think about racists being sacked ????
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=293979.0
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Maybe I should look at some other teams forums and post some poo poo things because this is basically the rawk thread now
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Rats raining down in the night during the Stanley Cup finals.
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Maybe I should look at some other teams forums and post some poo poo things because this is basically the rawk thread now
yeah we're all bit guilty of getting lazy. RAWK should count as cheating since it's harder to find good posts than bad posts there.
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I think its more that RAWK (and others) have raised the bar on what is considered a hilarious bad post. I often see poo poo on Norwich forums that I consider posting here but compared to Liverpool fans literally crying and vomiting at the thought of losing to Wigan, or Arsenal fans complaining about Masonic conspiracies and match fixing, they just don't cut it anymore.
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Maybe I should look at some other teams forums and post some poo poo things because this is basically the rawk thread now
I've been wanting to say this for months. This thread exists so you can unearth weird/stupid/terrible posts on your particular club's various forums and then bring them back here and post them. Let's please all start doing that. Thanks.
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Rats raining down in the night during the Stanley Cup finals.
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http://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/race-as-it-relates-to-soccer-football-in-the-us-and-around-the-world.1921209/
quote:With regards to stereotypes within sports themselves, it's not totally unfair to discern the pattern that blacks are on average faster than their counterparts from other races, and often more physically powerful as well. Anybody who plays a sport will emphasize use of their relative advantages and therefore those advantages stand out. In this case, Africans and blacks in general are tall, well-built people. On the other hand, Spaniards are smaller in stature, so they rely to a greater degree on technique. Brazil combines elements of both races and cultures, probably explaining why they have been the dominant soccer nation for some time.
Clearly a man who has never watched Carles Puyol,Fernando Morientes, Javi Martinez, Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, Jay Jay Okocha,Kazenga Lua Lua, Sean Wright Philips, Lennon, Defoe, Makelele etc..
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- Blue Star Error
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For this recipie you will need:
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ok I might have been a bit hasty saying Norwich fans aren't as mental
quote: Makes me sick all this Norwich Celtic crap. First of all they hate the English they mock the deaths of our armed forces and are as bad as the taliban and the religion that is pushing forward the new revolution in the middle east/northern africa. The IRA were murderers and we cannot be friends with murderers.
Reminder that Norwich fans still sing songs about Tony Martin, a literal murderer.
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No, you're supposed to go for it on Arsenal boards, and everyone else is supposed to do it on their club's boards. Then paste what you find here so we can all laugh at it.
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- The Clit Avoider
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The great thing about the SPL is there's several forums that just cover all the clubs, both sides of the OF included. This is also a terrible thing since 99% of the posts are mind-meltingly poo poo, and possibly cause brain damage by merely existing.
The "big" forums for Rangers and Celtic are mostly private, members-only affairs, where you get banned sharpish by trigger-happy admins, or never authenticated to read/post.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Rats raining down in the night during the Stanley Cup finals.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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quote: Andrew Wenger scored. To people who have seen him play, what is his ceiling?
quote:As a forward: US national team pool.
As a central defender: Real Madrid
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i know a few of these players are a bit older and a few people may think we should be aiming higher but i think all of these guys could do a job for us. ill put them in 2 categories.
Category A
Amauri (big target man, a much better version of Carlton Cole both on the floor and in the air)
Sulley Muntari (may be the most unrealistic of all but strong midfielder good defensively and going back, great shot and knows the league well)
Mathieu Flamini
dont worry though, everyone else on the forum decided Amauri isn't as good as Carlton Cole and therefore rubbished it.
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Actually i don't support England. I support Scotland whose fans are not fickle or bitter. We know what to expect. If we over achieve it's great. Otherwise we know our place.
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