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lupe's producer, not lupe himself, went out of his way and asked the original musician that pete rock sampled if he was cool with recreating his original music. that's beyond anything pete rock did when he decided to make his beat out a sample many years ago. pete rock's material was a loop of stolen music he didn't make. and he's upset about someone else recreating it? regardless if it was a remake or a loop jack, who the hell is pete rock to be ambassador of this situation? he was probably just jealous that he wasn't involved, and now that it has been resolved, he's going to get paid to do a collab with lupe in the future. ridiculous. i think pete should apologize to lupe's producer, too.
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cardedagain posted:lupe's producer, not lupe himself, went out of his way and asked the original musician that pete rock sampled if he was cool with recreating his original music. You are posting in the hiphop thread. Are you trolling by saying 'pete rock stole music' or just dumb?
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May 27, 2012 00:10
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Even if he had got Pete Rocks blessing, remaking a very classic and very personal song as his lead single is a weird move. Could he not have used any other beat? Also, Freddie Gibbs dropped one with TI and Jeezy, http://www.sharebeast.com/l0613rijqrml , which makes me wonder, does anyone have an ETA for Babyfacekilla?
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May 27, 2012 04:34
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I agree with temple, it's not like he used the sample in a particularly different way than Pete Rock did. Using a sample someone else used isn't intrinsically bad, but if you're not putting your own interpretation on it, you're just biting. That's fine for mixtapes where it's just how it works, but for an album track that's shameful. edit: also, seriously, T.R.O.Y. is a fundamental track in hip hop history, if you're gonna use that sample you better be making it your own.
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May 27, 2012 08:10
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Lupe has no shame whatsoever when it comes to making music. Remember after his last album he ran around trashing it constantly after hyping it. The comment about him being locked in a booth and having to rap his way out is kinda funny since you could describe that as being what happened with his last album. It really sucks though because Lupe's a legit really good rapper but he always seems to get caught up in random garbage that makes him look bad.
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May 27, 2012 13:04
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The Rooster posted:Also, Freddie Gibbs dropped one with TI and Jeezy, http://www.sharebeast.com/l0613rijqrml , which makes me wonder, does anyone have an ETA for Babyfacekilla? I like everyone on the track but poo poo that chorus is just loving obnoxious. I really want to like it 
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May 27, 2012 13:16
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Regnevelc posted:Why didn't Drake respond? Drake's too busy loving strippers and getting tour money. Plus the Clipse is one of his favorite hip-hop acts of all time. He gets gushy when he talks about the Pusha T autographed mic he bought off eBay.
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May 27, 2012 13:57
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cardedagain posted:
actually, pete rock got tom scotts blessing for troy as well
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May 27, 2012 15:06
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cardedagain posted:it's all polished horrorcore. Bizzare ain't polished poo poo. And even if he was, you can't polish poo poo.
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May 27, 2012 15:43
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alansmithee posted:Lupe has no shame whatsoever when it comes to making music. Remember after his last album he ran around trashing it constantly after hyping it. The comment about him being locked in a booth and having to rap his way out is kinda funny since you could describe that as being what happened with his last album. Don't defend Lupe for that LOSERS fiasco, his "artistic touch" was all over that pile of poo poo and I dont believe for a second it was the labels fault.
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May 27, 2012 17:14
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LASERS/LOSERS whatever was Lupe's baby because he fought so hard against his label and I knew I would never listen to it. Lupe left alone CAN BE wack and he obviously wanted more control. I'd say Lupe is like the gateway drug for kids to explore more meaningful hiphop than can go down the Immortal Tech/Mos Def line of revolutionary babble or maybe DOOM or Dead Prez skilled but conscious tastes. I think Lupe has a good heart and is worth the hassle but not worth defending when he fucks up.
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May 27, 2012 18:44
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Well I went ahead an e-mailed one of the dudes from 28 years and got this back. Wes posted:Hey Name,
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May 27, 2012 18:46
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the black husserl posted:Don't defend Lupe for that LOSERS fiasco, his "artistic touch" was all over that pile of poo poo and I dont believe for a second it was the labels fault. Normally I wouldn't but the two singles he had lined up for the album that were good didn't make the first version (iirc they got rereleased later for like some deluxe itunes only version). Also I can't remember who it was but there was some interview I was reading where someone actually was supposed to be on the beats for the show goes on and the other single but they were pulled from him for lupe's radio tracks. He had been doing a version of the album for like 2 years before it came out on his tours and stuff, but that pretty much got axed when he finally got back with his label and they agreed to release it. My problem wasn't so much that he did a bad album, but that he would be pimping it on tv and his twitter and stuff, while he's doing interviews at the same time saying it's garbage and w/e. Lupe always said that he had roughly half the tracks he liked a lot and half he didn't, and that sounds about right. The album was really bad but there were a couple of decent tracks. And I don't see how anyone can listen to SLR and not think he's one of the best (at least when he tries). alansmithee fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 27, 2012 |
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May 27, 2012 18:48
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Yeah, this was the single Lupe refused to do and lead to his label woes. And from what I understood....Lupe made the song first but the label wanted something more pop. Lupe refused to change it, so they passed it to BOB. Basically, the label gave him the song and most of lyrics and Lupe just wouldn't perform it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTDv_szmL0 Should have done it, IMO.
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May 27, 2012 19:16
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temple posted:Yeah, this was the single Lupe refused to do and lead to his label woes. And from what I understood....Lupe made the song first but the label wanted something more pop. Lupe refused to change it, so they passed it to BOB. Basically, the label gave him the song and most of lyrics and Lupe just wouldn't perform it. Would it still have feature Bruno Mars. Cause that dude sucks. A lot.
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May 27, 2012 20:00
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Yeah, it would have. I know it sounds crazy and I've been googling around but I swear I heard Lupe explain this about a year ago. He and his management and thus label were going head to head over his album. Everyone negotiated down to Lupe doing Nothing on You as his lead single to give his album some boost. But Lupe wouldn't cooperate. So the label got impatient and traded Nothing for You with BOB and Lupe conceded to that Tight Rope song with Janelle Monae. The BOB song blew up and the Tight Rope song was forgotten. So the label was like gently caress it and let Lupe have his way with the album but he didn't have the budget or time to record anything else. So Lupe was downplaying the album as not what he wanted but he had to own it because he wanted it out. Its just silly and dumb but he played the game wrong and had to look foolish.
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May 27, 2012 20:43
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temple posted:Yeah, this was the single Lupe refused to do and lead to his label woes. And from what I understood....Lupe made the song first but the label wanted something more pop. Lupe refused to change it, so they passed it to BOB. Basically, the label gave him the song and most of lyrics and Lupe just wouldn't perform it. This song is a nightmare but anything, anything, other than interpolated modest mouse. I swear to god that song was like having a Target collapse and kill your heart. If Lupe accepted "show must go on" but rejected bob cheese its the final word on him.
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May 27, 2012 22:01
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I thought the Lupe single he didn't do was Airplanes with Hayley Williams from Paramore. That song was an even bigger hit for BOB I'm pretty sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6eKAVV0MI here is Lupe's original version.
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May 27, 2012 22:45
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temple posted:Google lupe suicidal what a loving joke
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May 28, 2012 00:39
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temple posted:Google lupe suicidal Holy poo poo that's dumb. The dude was probably my favorite rapper for a short period of time, too.
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May 28, 2012 02:18
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Does anyone have that image of lil wayne at like 14 sitting on a couch smacked out with I think it was BG? I want to show someone and I can't find it anywhere.
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May 28, 2012 03:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwIyGSPQLs Tito Lopez on 5 fingers of death holy gently caress he kills the 2nd 5th/6th beats
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May 28, 2012 07:23
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new krit is streaming on npr, and new sl jones and burn one is dope.
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May 28, 2012 08:08
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Told myself I wasn't going to listen to the Krit stream... lasted about 2 minutes hah. I haven't finished it yet (cut it off half-way because it wasn't loud enough through my lappy speakers, only just found a pair of decent speakers) but this is really, really good. I'm glad he put Money On The Floor on there, will be good to have that song for real rather than just watching the youtube every now and then.
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Deadbeat Dad posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwIyGSPQLs That Johnny Quest shout out and Haji punch line just made him my new favorite rapper.
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May 28, 2012 16:43
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vanbags posted:"Diss me and you'll never hear a reply for it"
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May 28, 2012 17:35
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What is Pusha's deal anyway? Isnt this like diss #3 or something?
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May 28, 2012 18:37
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cardedagain posted:new krit is streaming on npr ughhhhh. i could see krit going this way on his past few releases, but didnt want to believe it would happen. the new gucci tape is the best thing hes done since 2010 so everyone go grab that
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May 28, 2012 19:30
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gently caress I don't even want to contemplate enjoying this gucci tape more than krit's album. but here I am. going to have to give it another listen. i don't think we'll ever get another krit wuz here. he's progressing his sound so much, I mean I enjoyed it and I'll probably still buy it but 
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May 28, 2012 19:59
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New glacial rap from BSBD and Nacho Picasso well worth the $5 donation: http://nachopicasso.bandcamp.com/album/exalted
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May 28, 2012 20:12
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TenaciousTomato posted:gently caress I don't even want to contemplate enjoying this gucci tape more than krit's album. but here I am. going to have to give it another listen. i don't think we'll ever get another krit wuz here. he's progressing his sound so much, I mean I enjoyed it and I'll probably still buy it but oh i havent heard it yet, more just referring to the fact its streaming on npr, which says a lot. entering roots-levels of adult contemporary rap
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Nah, it's not like that. It still evokes that strong UGK influence; if anything, it has less contemplative, more street banger type songs. edit: It's really good, too. Better than returnof4eva. edit2: He reminds me so much of Pimp C. It's great to have his spiritual successor so soon after he died... UP AND ADAM fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 28, 2012 |
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farmtrill posted:oh i havent heard it yet, more just referring to the fact its streaming on npr, which says a lot. entering roots-levels of adult contemporary rap haha
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farmtrill posted:ughhhhh. i could see krit going this way on his past few releases, but didnt want to believe it would happen. Plain Jane at the end made me go back to Trap Back and I think I prefer it to I'm Up atm. On Krit, gently caress that NPR bullshit, album just bangs man.
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May 29, 2012 00:45
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May 29, 2012 01:06
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Lupe got hosed on his last album and you can tell when you listen to Food & Liquor, SLR, FOTP, and especially The Cool. I think The Cool and his last two mixtapes killed Lasers and the production was not only better, but sounded like the Lupe I like. He needs to chill with the suicidal talk though. I would have told the chairman "gently caress you!" like Eminem and then release a Marshall Mathers LP of my own, or try to anyway. ...And I don't give a drat about his new single. It's bad and it won't sell. A deadly combo for this future with Atlantic.
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Deadbeat Dad posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwIyGSPQLs Todd Rundgren on that fifth beat is sooo nice
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UP AND ADAM posted:Nah, it's not like that. It still evokes that strong UGK influence; if anything, it has less contemplative, more street banger type songs. I had this discussion the other day with a friend and I can't see how KRIT is the spiritual successor of Pimp C anymore. He borrows heavily from the same aesthetic, but Pimp C never really talked about social issues with the same sort of depth or awareness as KRIT demonstrates.
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GET MONEY posted:New glacial rap from BSBD and Nacho Picasso well worth the $5 donation: http://nachopicasso.bandcamp.com/album/exalted great album and great series, these guys have been pumpin poo poo out like crazy dont sleep on this gothic thuggery
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