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Can't believe how fast this thread is moving... all these new models look so hardcore! When does the book actually come out?
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It's being presold at L&L starting tomorrow, in stores sometime in the next few weeks, probably.
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Jun 1, 2012 00:44
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stabbington posted:Looks like buying Ashlynn is no longer a terrible idea. Yes! A thousand times yes! I was just searching for Ashlynn conversions the other day due to my dislike over her model. The Galleon sounds amazing too. Can't wait to see some pictures of the model hopefully soon.
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Jun 1, 2012 00:49
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Gay Polymers posted:1 caster, not 2 I stand corrected, and am no longer as jealous of the real factions. So there's what...12 new releases + eAlexia in this book? stabbington posted:Looks like buying Ashlynn is no longer a terrible idea. Nice looking model. I wish we could have had an epic version of her to go along with it.
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Jun 1, 2012 01:23
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Looks like you fell into the trap that I used to. Sometimes its best just to buy extra attacks rather than boosted attack rolls. Ed: Just sized up a plastic Exemplar Errant to a metal one, they're smaller and more in proportion, holy poo poo are the metal ones huge. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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Jun 1, 2012 01:25
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Oh snap, didn't know you were part of the Muse on Minis crew, PV.
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Jun 1, 2012 01:48
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I built/admin/mod their forums  Im not on the cast and I havent written any frontpage articles, although when my life gets a little less hectic I will for sure contribute some frontpage stuff.
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Jun 1, 2012 01:55
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Flipswitch posted:Yeah, rocking those extra dice on the attack though is just so hard to resist at times. Lesson learned, it was a great game and I'm amazed I haven't picked up HoMachine earlier. What DEF is madrak? You might have done it the right way, depending on what his current DEF was when you were attacking him.
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Jun 1, 2012 01:57
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stabbington posted:Looks like buying Ashlynn is no longer a terrible idea. I refused to believe this when the rumor first hit, because it seemed too good to be true. gently caress, I don't care if every other faction gets three casters, two new units, and a pile of pure gold in Colossals, this would make up for it. Going to preorder this so hard. Having said that, the enormous flag seems a little unwieldy for game play, so I'm hoping that it is separate enough that I can make it swappable with a pistol. If not, who cares.
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Jun 1, 2012 02:04
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Epic Vyros' spell list is.. decent? Eh, he's not a jack caster, he synergizes with sentinels reasonably well with a def buff against ranged, but he seems unimpressive otherwise. The Hyperion has no tricks, and rat 5 guns with no covering fire doesn't impress. It will work best with Ravyn who can put snipe on its mega-gun and hope for the best with the crit consume. It has a lot of boxes, the most of all the colossals, which is nice, I guess?
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Jun 1, 2012 02:13
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PaintVagrant posted:Gaspy3 feat isnt great, but hot drat his spell list and sidekick are rad as hell! Holy loving poo poo mobility is crazy with Cryx. (I wish N3mo had gotten mobility or Escort  )
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Jun 1, 2012 02:18
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Panzeh posted:Epic Vyros' spell list is.. decent? Eh, he's not a jack caster, he synergizes with sentinels reasonably well with a def buff against ranged, but he seems unimpressive otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand why Vyros2 has Inspiration (Dawnguard), instead of Elite Cadre (Destors). Why does PP not want me to buy Destors?
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Jun 1, 2012 02:19
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Paper Kaiju posted:For the life of me, I don't understand why Vyros2 has Inspiration (Dawnguard), instead of Elite Cadre (Destors). Why does PP not want me to buy Destors? Well, you see, they want you to spam the hell out of destors in the tier list. Nothing could possibly go wrong with this. Anyway, it's the only way to protect him without a jackwall. A large cavalry base doesn't help his assassination prospects, and he doesn't even have flank any more!
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Jun 1, 2012 02:22
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PaintVagrant posted:I built/admin/mod their forums Wait, seriously? That's awesome. I'm in Omaha, our crew goes to their tourneys all the time. Our local GT is gonna be adding a warmachine tournament next year and phat asian said he'd help out with it, so I'm psyched for that. Paper Kaiju posted:For the life of me, I don't understand why Vyros2 has Inspiration (Dawnguard), instead of Elite Cadre (Destors). Why does PP not want me to buy Destors? Personally I'm glad they're not trying to shoe-horn a caster in with that terrible, terrible unit in an attempt to make them mediocre.
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Jun 1, 2012 02:24
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Phatasian is a cool dude and runs good events. Ive only met him once at an event here in detroit last year, but Im hoping to get out to warmachine weekend this year and hang out with the Muse dudes/etc. I was thinking of nemo3 some more, and man. That feat, with electroleaps all with extra dice. The entire table is going to be covered in 3d6+pow 10. Nothing is safe! Just nemo himself can cast a couple chain lightnings and gobber reinholdt his gun so thats 4 sets of d3/d6 electroleaps, all with an extra dice of damage. Entire armies are going to just evaporate. Stormblades assaulting from 14" away for pow 14+3d6 damage, ugh
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Jun 1, 2012 03:09
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Holy poo poo, PV, you need to get to WMW this year. I'm going to probably hanger-on with the Houston crew and I'd love to hang out with some goons as well. You most definitely need to drop some painting articles on Muse, because you're poo poo kicks all kinds of rear end. Also, Gaspy3 has got a loving killer model. He's going to be so good... I'm definitely picking him up. Raiders with Ashen Veil are silly good. DEF 18 against Ranged with Blast Immunity... haha, kill my loving Sea Witch now you motherfuckers! From top to bottom that spell list owns.
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Jun 1, 2012 03:14
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Yeah Im really hoping to make it. Starting to save now so I can make sure I have the cash do do it right. Ill definitely hit you up if I get to go! Ill be hanging with the detroit crew more than likely. Im trying to get some of of my other friends to go too. Im in the process of getting a new computer with video rig/editing stuff, so Im hoping to put out some quality vids for muse sometime soon! And yes holy poo poo...Gaspy3 spell list is bonkers. His feat is very matchup-ey which I dont like, but hes a ballstomper. Also, the model is the best model ever. gently caress I love gaspy so much
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Jun 1, 2012 03:17
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Can Chain Lightning jumps be boosted? Can Nemo3 be doing 4d6 damage rolls on his own jumps on his feat turn?
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Jun 1, 2012 03:24
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I'm going to WMW too! Actually, I know most of you are going with your own metas, but if anyone wants to clump together in general I need some friends.
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Jun 1, 2012 03:35
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PaintVagrant posted:Phatasian is a cool dude and runs good events. Ive only met him once at an event here in detroit last year, but Im hoping to get out to warmachine weekend this year and hang out with the Muse dudes/etc. RAT 5 stormblades... I suppose as long as one hits a heavy it'll stick, but I'd still rather have stormguard instead and take a Storm Strider. Also that feat with T-Pain 
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Jun 1, 2012 03:45
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S.J. posted:RAT 5 stormblades... I suppose as long as one hits a heavy it'll stick, but I'd still rather have stormguard instead and take a Storm Strider. There are these little things called Rangers, S.J. My god Storm Towers are going to be so gross off the Flanks! Two of them for four points, and you've got 2 POW 14 + 3d6 and 2d3 POW 10 + 3d6. Was that a unit of infantry on that control point? I think not. His feat sounds kinda bleh at first, but then you realize the sheer amount of terror it can cause and wow. DJ Thunder pulsing at 3d6? Yeah. And Sule, I don't have a meta per-se, but I know the Houston guys and am probably going to try bunking with them. If that doesn't work out, I may need to try to find someone else to split a room with, since 4 days of hotel rooms can get expensive quick.
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Jun 1, 2012 04:02
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Vlad feat as spoiled Blood-quenched Combat rider Relentless charge brutal charge POW 13 flail chain weapon no reach spear POW 12 brutal charge reach crit knockdown mount MAT 7 Flashing blade Hand of Fate Infernal Machine Wind Wall Dash Razor Wind Vlad3 has two weapons, one with Reach, Blood Quenched, and Flashing Blade. Let's picture a typical Vlad3 turn: 1) Upkeep Hand of Fate on yourself for free with Wishnailer. 2) Cast Dash. You now have 5 Focus on yourself. 3) Pop feat. Charge 12," plus Reach for 14" threat. Make an attack at MAT 9 due to the cavalry bonus, POW 15 with the flail. Kill something. Side Step 2." 4) Make an attack with the spear. MAT 7, but you have HoF up so you're likely to hit anything DEF 14-15 or below. POW 13 now, kill whatever you hit. Side step. Two side steps should hopefully have taken you into the middle of the biggest clump of infantry you can find. 5) Cast Flashing Blade. Everything within 2" of your large base is attacked at MAT 7 POW 14 with HoF. This will kill most things. Say you kill four dudes with this. 6) Sprint through the hole you made into the middle of the enemy army. Assuming you are ARM 17 base Vlad is now ARM 27 and staring right at the enemy caster, daring him to try something. 7)  There are a lot of armies whose only response to that is WELP gently caress and running their caster away desperately to get 15" away from Vlad3. This is what you want to happen. If they crowd dudes in between you and him, laugh and remind them about Impact Attacks. Also, Infernal Machine Drago + feat or IM Beast-09 is some sillyness.
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Jun 1, 2012 04:10
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Tanon posted:There are these little things called Rangers, S.J. Rangers don't actually solve the problems with stormblades, unfortunately (too easily killed by everything) and they only bring their rat up to acceptable values rather than reliable. Unless you're using them to go after heavies, in which case an extra 5 points for rangers could be better spent elsewhere. But yeah, I'm actually kinda psyched about being able to use my Storm Tower for once without feeling bad. I'm actually thinking that N3mo might not need an arc node, even though he has chain lightning. But that might be dangerous thinking. S.J. fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Vlad Even better, actually - you do impact attacks before charge attacks, so you can get even more movement and positioning out if it. e: so psyched oh god Faction: Cygnar Casters: 1/1 Points: 50/50 Artificer General Nemo (*3pts) * Finch * Stormclad (10pts) * Thunderhead (12pts) Storm Strider (9pts) Storm Tower (2pts) Storm Tower (2pts) Stormguard (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts) Journeyman Warcaster (3pts) Lanyssa Ryssyll, Nyss Sorceress (2pts) Major Katherine Laddermore (5pts) Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator (1pts) Stormsmith Stormcaller (1pts) Could drop Stormcaller, a Tower, and Lanyssa for Rangers if I'm having accuracy issues. S.J. fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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Jun 1, 2012 04:12
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Gonna RELEASE THE KRAKEN so much, just based on the model. Any word on stats?
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Jun 1, 2012 04:27
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Goddamnit. I have miniature money burning a hole in my pocket. I 'finished' my legion army, now I need to decide what to buy for either Trolls or Menoth! I think its gonna have to be some serious Menoth purchases...
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Jun 1, 2012 04:42
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3d6 elecro-leaps seems alright. It won't really make a difference for single wound infantry. Pow 10s just don't need help on ARM 15 or less. 10 + 3d6 still won't really do much to high ARM multi-wound models. What it seems like it is going to get you is lighting bounces being able to chip away at multi-wound troops, and assassinate non-camping warcasters, and should actually be pretty darn good on warlocks (either win or get a lot of meaty hits on a warbeast via transfers). I think it is the non-electroleap stuff that will change the most with the feat. Storm Lances might actually be pushed up to usable, since they are already great at a bunch of side roles, but just cost too many points for something that can't deliver a solid main-line punch. If they assault on the feat turn, that extra 3.5 on the target might just push them into workable. Especially since they are also a range assassination threat with that feat. Striders are going to be different. They are great against low to mid ARM stuff, but being able to 3d6 their range attack on demand, or even go 4d6 if someone was foolish enough to feed it tokens, will expand its abilities.
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Storm Lances are only RAT 5, that's not reliable at all unless you invest in Laddermore and/or Rangers.
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S.J. posted:Storm Lances are only RAT 5, that's not reliable at all unless you invest in Laddermore and/or Rangers. Rat 5 hits a lot of stuff. The stuff it tends to hit is the kind of stuff that a single boosted POW 15 doesn't do enough against.
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Cyclomatic posted:Rat 5 hits a lot of stuff. The stuff it tends to hit is the kind of stuff that a single boosted POW 15 doesn't do enough against. You're being kind of pedantic. It's the same result, other than electro-leaping to the nearby infantry that you were probably going to kill anyway.
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Jun 1, 2012 06:32
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S.J. posted:You're being kind of pedantic. It's the same result. No, not really. If they can't hit it with their assault shot, it most likely can't take the lance hits and walk away. If they can hit it with their assault shots, it most likely can take the lance hits, but if you go in on the feat turn, you've got the extra punch to put it down.
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Cyclomatic posted:No, not really. There's also a good chance that if your shot missed, the melee attack will miss also, or not be enough to kill the target. Especially if it's a warbeast. And if they do hit with the shot, then a lone PS 15 with three dice will probably not matter much either unless you get most of the unit on the same target. I can't think of anything that a RAT 5 shot is going to hit (and that the unit can reasonably finish off) that I'd be happy to trade a min unit of Lances for off the top of my head. Ideally you'd want to capitalize on their ride by attacks, and for that you need to invest in Laddermore and/or Rangers.
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Storm Lancers need Deadeye to hit infantry. Uber Nemo is not going to change this. What he does do is make Electro Leap a threat to things that previously thought themselves above it, such as Trollkin Champions, Cataphracts, Tuffalos and other high ARM, multi wound models. These guys all have defence 12, which Storm Lancers can hit on average rolls. It also means if you try and use the Storm Lancers as electric magnets, either for other members of their unit or for Stormclads, you can very reliably kill solos with the electro leaps. Eyriss does not walk away from a boosted Pow 10. Storm Lancers cannot hit Defence 13 very well, but they can definately hit members of their own unit with Back Strikes.
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Chicken Slayer posted:Storm Lancers need Deadeye to hit infantry. Uber Nemo is not going to change this. None of those are going to be walking around without a layer or two of buffs, though. Well, maybe the Tuffalos. But especially Cataphracts. Xerxis would laugh at Lances in a N3mo list, and don't care about eLeap. You might kill one or two dudes with the actual melee attack, but that's it. Champs are gonna be sitting at ARM 20 with either Sure Foot or Concealment or both, and/or behind a wall.
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S.J. posted:None of those are going to be walking around without a layer or two of buffs, though. Well, maybe the Tuffalos. But especially Cataphracts. Xerxis would laugh at Lances in a N3mo list, and don't care about eLeap. You might kill one or two dudes with the actual melee attack, but that's it. Champs are gonna be sitting at ARM 20 with either Sure Foot or Concealment or both, behind a wall. Yeah, bad example with the Cataphracts & Champs: even with an extra die, ARM 24 is just going to cause attacks to bounce. But with the Cav, Gators, Man o Wars and other multiwound models, you'll still be able to cause damage in most cases with the feat, which is more than can be said for Electro Leap under most circumstances. You've just got to hit something. Most of the time I see Storm Lancers, they either charge something that's easy to hit, put some damage on it and use it to bounce lightning everywhere, or else they charge Iron Flesh Kayazy/Winter Guard and just bounce. I know they can do fancy stuff like shooting eachother to cause electro leaps, but I'm not sure if that makes up for the fact that Uber Nemo doesn't have Deadeye and doesn't appear to support them well, other than his Feat. EDIT: Uber Vlad has Dash & Infernal Machine. You could get some silineess happening by giving him a Devestator and flinging it at the enemy. As long as you can kill something with its fists after it uses its Rain of Death, you can get a Sprinting warjack from hell. There's probably better combos, but the idea a hit and run attack from a Devestator just warms my heart. Chicken Slayer fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jun 1, 2012 |
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PaintVagrant posted:What DEF is madrak? You might have done it the right way, depending on what his current DEF was when you were attacking him. I've got a question though guys, for the Warcaster tier lists, do meet say a tier 4 requisite do I have to meet the conditions for the previous 3 tiers as well? Or are they four options of tiers?, so to speak.
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Flipswitch posted:Truth be told I have no idea now, it was either 12 or 14 I think. Yes, you do. They're steps, if your army fulfills the tier 3 requirements but not the tier 2 requirements, you only get the tier 1 bonus.
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Thanks, figured it was the case but was wondering if I could sneak in a themed list. Cheers mate.
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I think the Museonminis crew will probably have 2-3 cars of people at WMW again this year, I know alot of coverage should be coming out of it for sure. I have been absent the last few podcasts, but am working on a project for some new content that I think will be fun.
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RHQ-TV has their Colossals book spoiler video up. It goes through the rules for everything, about an hour long. Great video. No fluff stuff in this video, that will be in the next vid. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34jH06-9ZWE
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