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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Seoinin posted:

I'm a little weirded out by the fact that the dead dreambubble-selves (christ there needs to be a more elegant term for this) are corporeal.

Why would a dead dreamself not be able to punch a ghost, while both are in the afterlife no less? That would just be silly.

I'm pretty sure it's a true and well established fact that ghosts can touch other ghosts, and all ghostly things. Scientifically proven, even.

e/ Proof: :ghost::hf::ghost:

e2/ vv Actually my point was I don't think it matters, since they're all in a dreambubble. See: John being able to get stabbed by Meenah's golden pointy deal, for example.

Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 2, 2012

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paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
Oh yeah. I keep forgetting Jake's dreamself is dead, on account of the fact he doesn't have the spooky-eye thing going on.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us
Rose and Dave not recognizing the post-scratch names of Mom Lalonde and Bro was a bit telling. Did they simply not have names pre-scratch, or was Jake's accusations so wild to them they didn't make the connection?

Rooreelooo posted:

yeah as soon as I saw the fight and meenah's grin, I was expecting a callback to that scene with meenah sitting in that dumbfounded pose, camera zooming in on a tiny <3
I'm still expecting this.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Bell_ posted:

Rose and Dave not recognizing the post-scratch names of Mom Lalonde and Bro was a bit telling.

Or they simply may have not responded yet.

Popo
Apr 24, 2008

Homestuck is a true work of art surpassing all of Shakespeare's works.

Midnight Raider posted:

(Alternately, Trolls as a species are simply predisposed to being impressed by a good right hook, earlier example being Kanaya vs. Vriska.)

We all know how effective a punch to the snout can be when establishing superiority and other such feelings.

Everyone is going to end up with a crush on Jake. Even Jake himself.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
This is how Lord English happens. Jake just keeps going like this, thinking he's battling the minions of Fish Hitler even when it's time to hire Fish Hitler herself.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Of course. In order for him to beat up Fish Hitler, there has to BE a Fish Hitler!

Jake is actually Vriska is actually Lord English.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

jetz0r posted:

Jake is actually Vriska is actually Lord English.
Jesus christ dude do we have to post the Eridan(Obama) image again? We've been over this. Vriska = Vriska.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Well gently caress, can't argue with that image.

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.
:stare:

Meenah's getting off on this, isn't she? She looks way too pleased to get hit in the face. A flushed relationship between Jake and a complete psychopath will probably cause issues somewhere down the line.

firestruck
Dec 28, 2010

nullify me
That first part made me realize what, exactly, Aranea is! She is every person who has ever read homestuck fruitlessly trying to describe it to somebody else.

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

Vicissitude posted:

:stare:

Meenah's getting off on this, isn't she? She looks way too pleased to get hit in the face. A flushed relationship between Jake and a complete psychopath will probably cause issues somewhere down the line.

Flushed? This is more like ashen foreplay :stonk:

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.
I'm thinking fullblown kismesissitude. No third party is in place to facilitate. Aranea is just trying to stop it entirely, not maintain. Not to say it won't vacillate, but it seems like a total hate right now.

<3<

Norton Ghostride
Apr 30, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

YF-23 posted:

That is the best thi-

Wait when the US conquer Mexico

1848? :v:

Popo
Apr 24, 2008

Homestuck is a true work of art surpassing all of Shakespeare's works.

Vicissitude posted:

:stare:

Meenah's getting off on this, isn't she?

Oh, who isn't getting off on the 16 year old child raised in isolation beating up a punky fishy-fascist? It's the new hotness. Domestic violence gone sexy!

Somewhere, someone is already drawing some hot fist-on-jaw fanfiction where not only do the fist and jaw have poorly written, anatomically questionable sex, just because, but also the jaw dies from TRAGEDY.

And then there'll be a blood swap, genderbent fanart of it.

And a dedicated tumblr of people cosplaying as the fist and jaw in alarmingly good costumes.

And then I get banned.

FutureSushi
Jan 12, 2011

Did I miss anything important?
Terezi talking to mind-Dirk brings interesting light to her telling Tavros not to let anyone tell him Rufio is fake.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Recently got a chance to re-listen to Homestuck Vol. 8 again, and I realize that the song "Do You Remem8er Me" seems like it might be all the more relevant given Intermission 2...

quote:

JOHN: but the point is, when all was said and done, that was just some stuff that happened over one day, which was a whole year ago already.
JOHN: i barely even remember what we talked about. by the time we meet up, she probably won't give a poo poo about me at all.
JOHN: which, let's face it, is probably for the best.

It seems likely that John quite possibly won't remember Vriska even if she even manages to break out of the dreambubbles, even though for Vriska it will (probably) not have been very long at all, based on Aranea's claim:

quote:

ARANEA: I know it's only 8een minutes since you died, and you pro8a8ly aren't thrilled to see me for any num8er of reasons.
ARANEA: 8ut for me it has 8een millenia! I have 8een waiting a long time to see you again, and orient you to the afterlife.

That said, Vriska's discussion with Tavros after Tavrisprite seems to imply that it's been some time since she died so...

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


I thought it was more likely that John was basically pretending to shrug it off rather than sound weak or sappy in front of Jade. He might be derpy but nobody forgets the major events of the day when they survived the death of their entire universe.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Yeah, as much as John tries to downplay it, when he sees Meenah a little bit later his first question is to ask her if she's seen Vriska. He's got two more years and that's a long time for a kid, but he hasn't forgotten yet at any rate.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Thundarr posted:

I thought it was more likely that John was basically pretending to shrug it off rather than sound weak or sappy in front of Jade. He might be derpy but nobody forgets the major events of the day when they survived the death of their entire universe.

Not to mention that right after that when he meets Meenah the first thing he asks is if she has seen Karkat or Vriska, so yeah, he was definitely just putting up a strong front.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
Yep. As soon as he sees a troll, he asks after Vriska by name, the moment he thinks he has some vague idea who he's talking to. Nearly the first thing after his mouth that isn't "which one are you". It needn't mean all that much, but I do think it indicates that he remembers better than he wanted to let on in front of Jade.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Seoinin posted:

Jesus christ dude do we have to post the Eridan(Obama) image again? We've been over this. Vriska = Vriska.

Could you re-post it? Want to show it to someone.

RickoniX
Dec 4, 2005

A human or elf?

NO NOT A BADGER YOU GOON

Bobulus posted:

Could you re-post it? Want to show it to someone.

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...

FutureSushi posted:

Terezi talking to mind-Dirk brings interesting light to her telling Tavros not to let anyone tell him Rufio is fake.

Hot drat, Vriska and Tavros are busting out of the dreambubbles with Rufio, callin' it now. He's even dead! Also, the idea of Pages have belief related powers makes Pre-Scratch Jake's goodbye to Jane slightly prophetic.

quote:

She can handle it, he tells her. He believes in her.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?


I wonder how the guy who wrote this feels now that Obama killed DADT and came out in support of gay marriage.

Culinary Bears
Feb 1, 2007

I wonder if the whole uu/UU thing has something to do with how the troll ancestors failed by being inside a session that was not "theirs".

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

RickoniX posted:

{some homestuck head canon confession thingie}
First time I saw that! I thought you folks were talking about

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Goddamn posted:

I wonder if the whole uu/UU thing has something to do with how the troll ancestors failed by being inside a session that was not "theirs".

That's because they were spawned in A2, not A1. Their failure was assured because in order to be created in the first place, they would have to Scratch to create A2 and complete the timeloop.

You could also apply this to the Kids, since in order for Jade to communicate with Jake and create Liv Tyler, they would have to Scratch as well.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Reene posted:

This is the best birthday update ever.

Your birthday too, huh? :hfive:

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

I had the most disturbing thought yesterday, in the dead of night.

The reason we haven't seen UU and uu....it couldn't be because they're living Cal-alikes, is it? Just wearing fake troll horns and stuff?

Please tell me this is a stupid idea. :ohdear:

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
uu is be of the leading candidates for Lord English. However, he did warn Dirk to destroy Cal, which is strange if he ends up adopting his form later and using him in so many plans.

UU said lime bloods were killed due to an ability they tended to have, which suggests that there was actually a troll society for exist in, and thus not one of the Batterwitch's failed attempts at resurrecting her race. Culling suggests A2, and someone brought up Reddit's theory that they had a calming effect that theatened the caste system. Another baseless theory, whose baselessness makes it more plausible, because Homestuck: what if they were culled in a dark chapter of A1?

Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jun 3, 2012

Blood Nightmaster
Sep 6, 2011

“また遊んであげるわ!”

Bell_ posted:

Rose and Dave not recognizing the post-scratch names of Mom Lalonde and Bro was a bit telling. Did they simply not have names pre-scratch, or was Jake's accusations so wild to them they didn't make the connection?

It's possible their names were just different in that instance of Earth. It's implied that pre-scratch Jane's birth name was literally Nanna Harley here, so who knows about the other alpha kid's B1 counterparts and how they were raised. That, and what Jake is saying is an awful lot of crap to parse through anyway--the mention of juggalos was probably just the last thing Dave could catch and comment on.

Dark Grapefruit
Jun 3, 2006

All cans are welcome and equal in your city, regardless of can content, and whether empty or full.

Blood Nightmaster posted:

It's possible their names were just different in that instance of Earth. It's implied that pre-scratch Jane's birth name was literally Nanna Harley here, so who knows about the other alpha kid's B1 counterparts and how they were raised. That, and what Jake is saying is an awful lot of crap to parse through anyway--the mention of juggalos was probably just the last thing Dave could catch and comment on.

For what it's worth, Hussie actually refers to Nanna as Jane and Mom as Roxy in the annotations for book 2.

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

quote:

DIRK: God my existence is weird.
Yeah, no loving poo poo.

Luminous Obscurity
Jan 10, 2007

"The instrument you know as a piano was once called a pianoforte, because it can play both loud and quiet notes."
Meenah is definitely living up to her claim of being the best troll.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?
Update. Looks like Meenah was thinking about the Condesce and not impressed by Jake's drubbings

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...
DOOF is a pretty accurate assessment of Mr. English, that's for sure.

Hyedum
Jun 12, 2010
I guess when you're that high up your ladder things tend to hurt less? That or she's really vain.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Update. Yay, it was the less creepy of the two scenarios for why Meenah was grinning! That's two people taken out by that trident, John and Jake. I'm a little worried it's going to become a 'thing'.

Dark Grapefruit posted:

For what it's worth, Hussie actually refers to Nanna as Jane and Mom as Roxy in the annotations for book 2.

That reminds me of one of my favorite bits of teasing from the Hussmentary in book 2

quote:

Rose likes bro's puppet porn sites. It's almost like they would have similar styles and would get along pretty well if bro was her age. Oh well, that's the end of that fruitless hypothetical reverie.

He also speculates that the people chatting on Bro's plush rump website are probably chatbots that Bro programmed himself to attract people to the site, ala AR.

Bobulus fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jun 3, 2012

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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Is it just me, or are there now more alternate versions of Dirk than there were of Ace Dick?

I'm hoping we get Fiesta Dirk at some point, personally.

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