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It just looked poodle-ish to me.  I've seen goldendoodles who look a lot like that.fake edit: I didn't think there was such thing as a truly hypoallergenic breed? I know some breeds aggravate allergies less, but aren't hypoallergenic.
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I love that Nori is bigger than Bea.  At least it looks like he is in that picture.
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Azrael Alexander posted:It just looked poodle-ish to me. Poodles, Bichons, Maltese, Havanese, Wheatens and other breeds with hair instead of fur are considered non-allergenic They don't shed or produce dander, but people with severe allergies should avoid any dog regardless. There's a reason goldendoodles are bred down to that size and look, and that reason is people are too stupid to realize a breed already exists that looks exactly like that.
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All dogs produce dander, (it's just skin flakes etc. that all animals shed), but the long-haired non-shedding breeds tend to trap it in their coat instead of releasing it into the environment. That's why they may trigger allergies less than other breeds.
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Jun 8, 2012 05:20
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It depends on the proteins the dog produces, too. Darker dogs produce more allergens than lighter ones. I don't even have dog allergies, but shaving down a black poodle will get me every time! The allergens are released in saliva, too, so if the dog is drooly or licks a bunch it can make it worse. My sister who has terrible allergies can be around Buddy for awhile no problem, but if he licks her she gets a rash.
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WolfensteinBag posted:The allergens are released in saliva, too, so if the dog is drooly or licks a bunch it can make it worse. Barkers too, they aerosolize and project the saliva. A lot of people don't consider size either. A big dog with a lot of surface area is going to produce more dander than a small dog. That's what always irked me about people bringing in their goldendoodles for grooming, I'm sure there are nice ones out there somewhere but the ones we always got were giant "nonshedding" untrained morons that barked nonstop and slimed everyone within reach.
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Jun 8, 2012 12:15
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WolfensteinBag posted:Darker dogs produce more allergens than lighter ones. Wow is this true? It sounds like one of those myths people believe cause it's just so simple but if it's really true that's very cool.
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Jun 8, 2012 15:18
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I suggest we ask for scientific proof.
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Jun 8, 2012 15:26
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This was posted in Lovedump, but I can't get over the way the dog looks. Is it a cattahoula leopard dog?  How did it get such distincting breaks in its coat pattern?
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Jun 8, 2012 16:10
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It looks like maybe a GSD/Catahoula mix. Either way, holy gently caress, give it to me. 
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Jun 8, 2012 16:20
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If that dog's name isn't Harvey, I'm sorely disappointed.
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Jun 8, 2012 16:21
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It looks A LOT like another dog I know.  Not sure what she is - random herder mutt. The split face is a relatively common genetic expression of some... pattern or other. Again, it's not uncommon in border collies. Very good looking dog!
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Jun 8, 2012 16:24
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wtftastic posted:This was posted in Lovedump, but I can't get over the way the dog looks. Is it a cattahoula leopard dog? It is a purebred Awesome Dog. I would snatch that up in a heartbeat  One of the reasons I love smooth-faced Pyrenean Shepherds so much is that a lot seem to have very distinct/awesome patterns, like this lovely looking dog: 
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 The split face you see in tortoiseshell cats, harlequin rabbits and dogs such as the above is due to the way pigment migrates in the developing embryo. Imagine a little guy walking down a rabbit's spine dealing cards left and right as he goes. There will be a random pattern of red and black cards on either side. Now imagine the cards are replaced with tins of red and black paint, which the little guy then kicks over. The red and black paint will drizzle down the side of the rabbit, and they'll form bands of colour which aren't exactly perfect because paint doesn't drizzle in perfectly straight lines. That's pretty simplified, but hopefully you get the picture. All the pigment cells are initially stored in the 'neural crest' (proto-spine) of the embryo, and gradually they migrate over the body. In some cases, there will be both red and black pigment cells in the neural crest and they will align themselves pretty randomly. The exact markings of (for example) a tortoiseshell cat are also influenced by environmental factors as the pigment migrates. If you cloned a tortoiseshell cat, the two clones would not have identical markings. SO, a split face dawg has a split face because in the tiny developing embryo, there was a red pigment cell on one side of the proto-head and a black pigment cell on the other 
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Jun 8, 2012 17:38
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"The Dog Whisperer" was cancelled! http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/06/natgeo-cancels-dog-whisperer/  Rumor is he's getting another show but I'm hopeful that it'll be a new premise and not focused on "training" dogs.
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I figured the explanation had to be something akin to that. Do you know what gene is responsible for that kind of patterning? I'm being lazy, but I amsure the internet knows!
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People who abandon animals suck. I was headed back to work after lunch today and saw a little wirehaired dachshund wandering down the side of the road. This is on a dirt road in the middle of a bunch of cornfields in the middle of nowhere. Why the hell would you abandon a dog there? There are no houses for miles. What's he supposed to do, learn to eat corn? The poor thing is filthy and hungry and absolutely crawling with fleas. Fuckers. So now I get to miss a couple of hour's pay because I have to leave early to get to the shelter on time and pay a $20 surrender fee so I can take care of somebody else's heartless irresponsibility. If I ever catch somebody dropping a dog off out here they won't find the body until harvest time. Absolute fuckers.
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Jun 8, 2012 19:38
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WHERE IS CRISCO THERE SURELY ARE KITTENS BY NOW! It's been what, 5-6 weeks since he posted saying she was pregnant? Cat gestation is only 9 weeks... I want frizz kitties!
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Jun 8, 2012 19:44
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Maybe he fell into a kitten pile and was devoured.
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Jun 8, 2012 19:45
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SuperTwo posted:"The Dog Whisperer" was cancelled! http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/06/natgeo-cancels-dog-whisperer/ Too late to undo years of damage but hahahhaha YES.
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Crisco did comment recently that he has about 3500 cats now, so it sounds like Frizz already popped.
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wtftastic posted:I figured the explanation had to be something akin to that. Do you know what gene is responsible for that kind of patterning? I'm being lazy, but I amsure the internet knows! In rabbitlady code it is part of the 'E' series ('E' stands for 'extension'). 'E' stands for normal extension and is dominant over both 'ej' (harlequin/magpie) and 'e' (red). 'ej' is also dominant over 'e'. 'Extension' basically refers to the distribution of red and black pigment in individual hairs. Normal agouti hairs are banded red and black. In 'e' rabbits there is no black pigment, so every hair is red (tho there is an exception, but we won't complicate things). In harlequin rabbits, some hairs are completely red and others are completely black. I can throw up some pictures to illustrate this if anyone is interested
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I'm interested. You should make a spergy rabbit-genetics thread! I find genetic stuff quite interesting to think about/work out.
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Fraction posted:I'm interested. She did, for anyone who has archives. It was cool while it lasted!
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SuperTwo posted:"The Dog Whisperer" was cancelled! http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/06/natgeo-cancels-dog-whisperer/ Here's hoping the new show dies, as does his stupid line of products that are pretty lovely. This is the best news.
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notsoape posted:In rabbitlady code it is part of the 'E' series ('E' stands for 'extension'). 'E' stands for normal extension and is dominant over both 'ej' (harlequin/magpie) and 'e' (red). 'ej' is also dominant over 'e'. 'Extension' basically refers to the distribution of red and black pigment in individual hairs. Normal agouti hairs are banded red and black. In 'e' rabbits there is no black pigment, so every hair is red (tho there is an exception, but we won't complicate things). In harlequin rabbits, some hairs are completely red and others are completely black. I can throw up some pictures to illustrate this if anyone is interested I took genetics in college but we didn't cover a lot of the more "exciting" or exotic colorations precisely because of how difficult they get. We spent a lot of time talking about cross over frequency and recombination though.
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Don't know how many of you guys browse GBS, but this was posted: http://www.ustream.tv/sfshiba Shiba Inu puppy cam!
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a life less posted:She did, for anyone who has archives. It was cool while it lasted! Ha; that one fizzled out because one of my two bucks broke his leg in a freak accident and had to be euthed. And then I had to reconstruct my entire breeding programme  'K, I'll put up some pictures a little later. For now, here is a conformation pop quiz. Here are two pictures of Mouse; one at 11 1/2 months old and one at 12 1/2 months old. I am generally pleased with her conformation, but there are a couple of things I would change. One is height, another is underjaw. However, there is one other more major fault that keeps annoying me. What do you think it is? And what do you think I am pleased with about her structure? N.b. Please don't hold back on your opinions because you think I'll be offended - it will not injure my self esteem in the slightest if you critique my dog!  
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Bash Ironfist posted:Don't know how many of you guys browse GBS, but this was posted: The little one with his legs in the air is so cute
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Well I'm not a conformation expert but I'd say in that second picture Mouse has another dog growing from her underside and maybe that shouldn't be there. I can't critique such a pretty dog! One that's pretty good at getting rabbits and rats, too. Your dog can actually do what she's bred to do. That puts her head-and-shoulders above 'show dogs' of all breeds.
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Her shoulder looks pretty upright, and my eye has always wandered to the point where her shoulder/chest/neck meet. Is there something funky in there? The dip before the roach of the back might not be ideal either. sighthounds 
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a life less posted:The dip before the roach of the back might not be ideal either. sighthounds That's what I don't like. And I don't like the way she shapes her assend, but I think she just likes to stand weird for your pictures and it's not actually conformation.
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Yup, her shoulder kinda sucks. The scapula is too short/small and also too upright. It's what I would call a 'stuffy' shoulder, and it's the cause of her short and low set neck too. It definitely affects her gait (she walks a bit downhill), and she has to work a little harder to lower her head for a take. Luckily, she's so small and close to the ground anyway it doesn't matter in the same way that it would for a larger dog. Also, scapulas are one of the last bones to finish growing, and she's started to muscle up and honestly looks better every day . She is a Bedlington mix, and even the working line Beds are pretty bizarre structurally. I don't think it will be a huge impediment to her performance in the field, but if I were ever to breed from her down the line, I would obviously be looking to improve on that shoulder when looking for a sire. I'm glad nobody said 'butt high' because she really isn't; she's just arched over the loin with flatter withers. That outline is pretty common in racing/coursing whippets. If I were to critique her further I would say her croup is a little too upright, and as a puppy she was quite herring gutted (even for a whippet), but she is really beginning to fill out a lot as she matures .There's a ton about her I really like, though - love those rear angles, powerful loin, straight legs, arched toes and nicely sloped pasterns. Overall she's pretty moderate, which is what I was looking for in a puppy.
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I really like Mouse's overall look. She's a very pretty looking dog. By the way, I've wondered before if Lola has some sighthound in there somewhere, based on the crazy, sighthound-y dip between her ribs and back legs (loin?). Her dad is a farm terrier so it's possible he isn't full Jack. But I've seen some other weird looking JRTs around that aren't related to Lola AFAIK, so I'm not sure if they just run strange in my area or not.
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El Gar posted:Wow is this true? It sounds like one of those myths people believe cause it's just so simple but if it's really true that's very cool. It is! I don't know the protein off the top of my head, but I'll look it up later, I remember reading the actual one before.
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Kind of bummed here. It looks like my grandmother is probably going to have to put her old dog to sleep.  The dog is a 12-year-old Westie, she's pretty much completely blind, and now she's developing something where her legs periodically stop working. My grandmother's own health and mental state are really deteriorating as well, so that's a lot for her to try to manage. But it's pretty rough for her to have to make this decision.The thing that really makes me sad is that I'm actually kind of relieved. With my grandmother's health declining and her husband being pretty flaky at the best of times, the "who inherits the dog and what then" question has kind of been in everyone's mind. She's a sweet little dog and she's mellowed a lot with age but besides the health problems she's...a minimally-trained terrier who likes to do terrier stuff like digging and barking and chasing cats and being stubborn, and doesn't have a lot of other constructive hobbies. Anyway. Here she is around Easter, being a good girl with assorted generations of people. 
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^^^It was really tough when they had to put my grandparents' Westie to sleep, but she was having pretty serious medical problems and sometimes it's just time to go.  Then they decided to adopt a young cat from the animal shelter (previously they had only owned dogs from breeders) and brought home an orange tabby boy who has become my grandmother's constant companion and a total lovebug. Having a sweet, gentle lapcat who is content to watch tv with you all afternoon is the perfect thing when you aren't very mobile any more.  Question: So after hanging around here for a while and reading all the way through the old random nonsense and cat FAQ back before I adopted my cat, I've noticed people keep asking the same questions again and again (which litter to buy, where to get a good cat tree, etc) because they're difficult to find scattered throughout the threads. I know I had a hard time finding product recommendations myself and people have asked in the past what happened to an old recommendations thread. How would people feel about me writing up a few effortposts for a new product recommendations thread? Maybe someone else could do some dog posts for it, or I could just make a cat-specific thread. This would be based on what I've read of the collective PI cat lady wisdom, of course, not just my own opinions.
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Bash Ironfist posted:Don't know how many of you guys browse GBS, but this was posted: For those not in the know, this is Ayumi's first litter and she is from SFShiba's very first puppy cam litter and their fourth overall. Ayumi's mom has retired from having puppies (three litters) and most of their dogs have done very well with health testing and shows.They've also been really sweet and started networking our rescue a little.
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Robo Kitty posted:Question: So after hanging around here for a while and reading all the way through the old random nonsense and cat FAQ back before I adopted my cat, I've noticed people keep asking the same questions again and again (which litter to buy, where to get a good cat tree, etc) because they're difficult to find scattered throughout the threads. I know I had a hard time finding product recommendations myself and people have asked in the past what happened to an old recommendations thread. How would people feel about me writing up a few effortposts for a new product recommendations thread? Maybe someone else could do some dog posts for it, or I could just make a cat-specific thread. This would be based on what I've read of the collective PI cat lady wisdom, of course, not just my own opinions. I think a new product recommendations thread is a great idea, but I think you should keep it all-animal inclusive.
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