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forever whatever posted:picked this sexy thang up yesterday... Any chance you can post some clips? Wanna hear what that thing sounds like.
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Me too, that is really cool. Never really seen something like that before.
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Jun 11, 2012 00:20
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So it's basically like a Bass VI? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bass_VI I used to have Gretsch's version of a Bass VI. Unfortunately I couldn't really fit it in anywhere and ended up selling it. Pretty neat nonetheless.
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Jun 11, 2012 01:10
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 Bought this recently. Sounds lovely.
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Jun 11, 2012 04:54
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I didn't buy this, but I was just looking for Teles on eBay and I came across this beauty, yours for a cool £1395:   quote:A chance to own a very rare, new out the box ULTIMA F-LITE handmade luthier built guitar with unique lightweight resonant body that allows the best of both worlds . . the twang from the Tele bridge, with the sustain of a les paul.
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Jun 11, 2012 07:28
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That guitar is Klingon as hell
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silverhawk79 posted:
Have you found a use for the Bass Boost setting? Every time I accidentally set mine to bass boost it's just so overwhelmingly loud and lovely sounding I can't conceive of actually using it for anything. No complaints about the pedal as a whole though, it gives a great fuzz without losing low-frequency response.
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Crouton posted:Have you found a use for the Bass Boost setting? Every time I accidentally set mine to bass boost it's just so overwhelmingly loud and lovely sounding I can't conceive of actually using it for anything. No complaints about the pedal as a whole though, it gives a great fuzz without losing low-frequency response. I used mine with a bass and it sounded way better with the bass boost on, on guitar sometimes I can use it to fatten up power chords on my Lead II that has single coils.
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Jun 12, 2012 17:06
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 Just got these babies. They're the shure SE 535's, and they sound pretty good. Though, I've always hated the foam plugs that come with them; a pain in the rear end to remove. I git them off though, and am rockin the soft rubber plugs now.
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Jun 12, 2012 17:11
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nrr posted:Any chance you can post some clips? Wanna hear what that thing sounds like. Furthermore, do you play it through a bass or guitar amp? And yeah, that looks really sweet. Clips as soon as you can! The youtube ones don't do much for me.
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Jun 12, 2012 19:55
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Yea, I'll see what i can do this weekend! I agree about the youtube clips, there isn't much for this instrument. This is the best demo I've found, and it's actually from Schecter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Am5tkI1Jw Currently I'm playing through a guitar amp, a Fender Deluxe 112 combo. I'm not really sure what the best settings are to run a bass through a guitar amp, but this thing plays chords really well higher up on the neck too, it really is a very versatile instrument. I'm not even a real bass player so I feel like I'm learning a whole new instrument really.
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edit: I obviously done goofed and don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
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Jun 13, 2012 00:33
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A bass is one octave below standard tuning though? And so is the VI.
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Aside from the tuning a Bass VI instrument really doesn't have that much in common with a bass guitar. The scale is shorter and the string gauges are significantly lighter and they're almost all designed to put out a far wider variety of tones than you're going to get out of a bass. Really you can just run it through whatever amp you like and it's going to be fine. This is actually a really good example of what you can do with a Bass VI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDKQ708Z0s (The Cure: Pornography) amishbuttermaster fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 01:25
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amishbuttermaster posted:Aside from the tuning a Bass VI instrument really doesn't have that much in common with a bass guitar. The scale is shorter and the string gauges are significantly lighter and they're almost all designed to put out a far wider variety of tones than you're going to get out of a bass. Really you can just run it through whatever amp you like and it's going to be fine. Robert Smith is playing a Jazzmaster in that video, not a Bass VI. Also, the strings aren't that much lighter than regular full scale bass strings. The Ernie Ball set has a 90 for the low E, D'Addario is a 84. The low notes are going to be weak unless your amp has speakers that can handle it, the same as playing a regular bass guitar. But, the best part of the Bass VI type instruments is how they sound in the upper ranges, so that may not be much of a concern.
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It's a Bass VI with Jazzmaster pickups. "The band's line-up for this production was Smith (vocals, guitar, 6-string bass guitar)" Anyways, yeah, they really shine in the upper ranges.
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Yea, Smith is a big fan of VI style guitars, he even has a signature UltraCure VI made by Schecter...I went with the Ultra VI because I thought I'd like the pickups better (and it was more aesthetically appealing). Here's specs from the Schecter website: The Schecter UltraCure VI, and, The Schecter Ultra VI Both of these are E to E, one octave below a guitar, like a bass is but with a 30" scale vs. the typical 34" (and of course, 6 strings as opposed to 4). Also, the strings are pretty close together compared to traditional 4 string basses so I imagine this alone would make it unattractive to many conventional bassists. edit: Interestingly, Schecter makes regular-scale six string electric versions of both these models, but I've never played them. And yea, I do agree that the Ultra VI does very well in upper registers. forever whatever fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 06:34
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Shut up shut up shut up you guys, don't make me start looking for a cheap VI clone again. (Anyone played an Agile Argus?)
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Jun 13, 2012 14:47
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The Beatles used a Bass VI on a bunch of songs, usually George or John would play it if Paul was on guitar or piano. Birthday, Back In The USSR, Let It Be, and possibly (but maybe not) Helter Skelter, for example.
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forever whatever posted:Yea, I'll see what i can do this weekend! I agree about the youtube clips, there isn't much for this instrument. This is the best demo I've found, and it's actually from Schecter: drat, this thing sounds fuckin cool. I bought myself a Les Paul a couple of months ago and this is the first thing I've seen here since then that's actually made me jealous, so nice work! How is it to play? Is it pretty easy to pick one up and play like a guitar, or does it take a fair bit of getting used to those strings and be able to just effortlessly play smoothly?
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Grabbed a used SX SJB62 off eBay this morning, super excited to get it. 
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It sounds a little crazy, but I recommend 30" scale 8 string guitars to anyone that wants the feel and low notes of a Bass VI while still having the full range of a guitar. It's gonna be a little harder to play thanks to the aircraft carrier neck, but you gain some awesome options with one. You can even drop it down to bass VI tuning and still have 2 extra high strings. 8'ers are still seen mostly as djent/prog instruments but there's no reason to be limited to that. I play sludge/doom with mine, and even have a few 90's alt-rock songs with it. Then again, I find playing a baritone 6 string leads to a totally different play style than a regular 6, and that's a draw for some.
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Well, I ended up with a Jaguar. Lightly used, Classic Player with the humbuckers. I'm still working on figuring out all the various tones this thing is capable of, but I love the feel of the neck and the reach to the high frets is better than any of my other instruments. Still getting used to the 24" scale. I'm working out what gauge strings to put on it. It came with 10s and they're a little floppy in standard E. Considering that my band plays in Eb, I may have to get it set up to do 11s or even 12s. Anyway, I played it a lot last night, got some great sounds out of it. Adjusting to the control layout will take a little time, so I'm not taking it onstage tonight. I haven't quite worked out how the rhythm circuit differs from the lead or what combinations of the 2 pickups I like best. But soon... 
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Fancy... nice... classic. Fender.™ e: How do you like the tone from the Fender humbuckers? When I think Fender, I usually think icepick, which isn't really possible with those style of pickups... Schlieren fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jun 14, 2012 |
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I actually like it a lot. I've not a had a chance to put it through my stage setup yet, so I can't say it's had a complete workout. As of now, it's been through my home practice rig - Hot Rod Deluxe with an M5 in the loop for a few modulation effects - and the Fender amp is a little darker than the one I use most of the time (a Class A 30 watt). They're not icepick, though, so far. A little bit grittier than my Heritage when the tone knob is all the way up, and there's a touch more treble, which I actually like. I really like the volume knob placement. Something that bugs me about the 4-knob control setup of Gibson and Gibson-inspired models is that the bridge pickup volume knob is too far to just roll off with your pinky. While I appreciate the separate controls for each pickup, it can be a bit tricky if you like using the volume knob a lot on the fly. On this one, it's not unlike a Tele (or my ASAT) and I just really like that arrangement.
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Jun 14, 2012 15:17
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Good choice, I have exactly the same. I could stare at it for hours.
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Frankston posted:Good choice, I have exactly the same. So jealous of you guys. I love the those guitars. But I can't justify spending $800 on another guitar (or $600+ on a used one). I don't play nearly as well or as much as I want to these days, so another guitar is out of the question. I already have too many as it is. I have toyed around with the idea of buying a cheap Xaviere XV-JT and modifying the hell out of it, but that seems like more work, money, and effort than it is worth. How is the bridge? I have heard tons of complains about how much of a bitch it is to set up and adjust.
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Well, I sold two guitars to afford this one. They were instruments I wasn't using and I wanted something I would play a lot more. Otherwise, I couldn't have afforded it. These models are a bit adjusted to deal with some of that concern about string slippage from the older Jaguars, as I understand it. They moved the tailpiece up toward the neck, and actually changed the angle of the neck itself to increase the break angle. I've not had a problem yet, although it's only my second day. I am considering, after playing unplugged a little bit, running a bit of leather or other soft material through the strings in between the bridge and the tailpiece to dampen string vibration in that area. Jaguars are known to have some minor sympathetic vibrations in that short string length, precisely because of the low break angle and the transfer of vibrations across the bridge, and I've noticed just a touch of that without amplification. Nothing serious, but I wonder what it could do in a high gain situation. I actually may play with what kind of sounds I can get out of that - maybe some interesting feedback or something.
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Gripen5 posted:I have toyed around with the idea of buying a cheap Xaviere XV-JT and modifying the hell out of it, but that seems like more work, money, and effort than it is worth.  Do it. You won't regret it.  It's about equal to a Mexi-Tele in build quality and playability. They're ash or alder, but, yes, they're not _great_ ash or alder. Three piece, though. And I'm sure that modding will make it sound like an expensive guitar. Why, all I need to do is replace the body on one of mine with a Warmoth... then maybe the neck, I dunno... (I'm actually going to do this, as the 90 in the picture above is now deceased. Pity me. It's going to have to be a custom routing, too, so it's going to be really expensive.) Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jun 14, 2012 |
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Gripen5 posted:I have toyed around with the idea of buying a cheap Xaviere XV-JT and modifying the hell out of it, but that seems like more work, money, and effort than it is worth. You should also check out the Agile Argus from Rondo : http://www.rondomusic.com/argusminilpb.html I haven't bought an Agile, but I bought an SX from Rondo (like half the price of an Agile) and after setting it up it sounded pretty decent. I've probably put just as much into modding it as I have into the guitar (replaced nut, pickups, string trees, added an orange drop cap) but that's still less than $250 for a guitar that plays and sounds great. I can't speak for Xavieres, but I know Rondo guitars at a minimum use solid alder and not particle board or anything. I will agree that no amount of modding will make it sound or feel exactly like an expensive guitar (my Agile does not sound or play quite as well as my Reverend), but they are a great deal for the money and are great if you like just modding and screwing around with stuff.
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Walter posted:Well, I ended up with a Jaguar. Lightly used, Classic Player with the humbuckers. I'm still working on figuring out all the various tones this thing is capable of, but I love the feel of the neck and the reach to the high frets is better than any of my other instruments. Still getting used to the 24" scale. If the wiring is standard Jaguar, the rhythm circuit is neck pickup only in the up position, with volume/tone control at the top horn. With the rhythm switch in the down position, it enables the pickguard switches to control pickup selection, and volume/tone are controlled at the butt of the guitar. The three DPDT switches mounted to the hexagonal plate in the pickguard are control neck pickup on/off, bridge pickup on/off, and the third one is a bass cut/high pass filter. That filter is the Jaguar's hallmark; in combo with the bridge pickup, when distorted will give you ear-blistering lead tone. Easy to remember: • Rhythm switch up, neck pickup only, controlled at the top horn. All other controls disabled. • Rhythm switch down, all pickups and filter switch, controlled via hex plate and vol/tone near the input jack. Upper horn vol/tone controls disabled. I love Jaguars... I've owned four CIJ Jags in total, one standard and three HH's, but the Mexican ones bug me in that they repositioned the floating trem closer to the bridge.  I'd go with 11 gauge if you're finding 10's to be too loose, 12's can be a bit tight.Also, if you need help figuring out how to set up the floating tremolo, I think I've got instructions somewhere or can remember from memory. If not, check out the Shortscale.org forums. Those guys are usually pretty knowledgeable about Jags/Mustangs/Broncos etc. XYZAB fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 14, 2012 |
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God drat I have way too much stuff to post. True statements: "now has pretty much all the Hufschmid Drop picks (and you should too, the Attack Drop is one of the hottest ideas for picks pretty much ever)" "now has pretty much all the V-Picks" "now has three Wegen Trimus 500s, those things rock, so fast" "now has 2.5mm Jazz III shaped Blue Chip pick" "now has an order for a Red Bear Gypsy Jazz-sized Big Jazzer, to add to Red Bear Tuff Tone Big Jazzer and CII picks" and I've got pretty much everything available in Amplitube 3.8 (most recent version, added Amplitube Slash signature edition with certified Marshall amps and cabs, main reason for buying the collection rather than a la carte since just the two heads and cabs would cost as much as everything else). I bought that within like an hour of it coming out. The Orange models in Amplitube 3 Custom Shop are awesome, the newer Fender, Soldano, and unauthorized but I think Engl-inspired models are killer, I think I'm just gonna use IKMM's software for guitar and bass recording from now on. I'm fuckin' done for awhile. Honest to god. Too much, too much. Edit: I still need to get a box for my picks, soon as my little dude learns to crawl they are less "fun quick change in playing feel and sound" and more "choking hazard" ugh Agreed fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 15, 2012 |
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Jun 15, 2012 02:10
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You don't have an altoids box? Altoids boxes: what can't they do!
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Warcabbit posted:You don't have an altoids box? Altoids boxes: what can't they do! Oh hell's bells that's so much better than the little zip-loc bags I've been using.
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Warcabbit posted:You don't have an altoids box? Altoids boxes: what can't they do! They don't make an altoids tin that will hold like a hundred and fifty picks that start at 1.5mm and average around 6-7mm by numbers, or 9mm-ish by cost. I'm telling you guys I have a LOT of picks ok
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Hot Wheels box. http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Wheels-Molded-Car-Case/dp/B00000JS5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339728024&sr=8-1
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Tackle box
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Thumposaurus posted:Tackle box Yeah... that might do it.
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I have a fairly large pipe tobacco urn that is filled to the brim with picks from my dad. Most are thin to medium traditional shape. I'm looking to the jump into the boutique plectrum world. I was talking with a friend to give the Dunlop Ultex Sharp a try, the reasoning is that the Jazz III shape (I have some Eric Johnson and Ultex Jazz) cramps my hand up for some reason and I'm finding the traditional Fender pick shape is working for me. So I'll try that out but what to look at as a step beyond that? V-pick switchblade?
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Walter posted:Well, I ended up with a Jaguar. Speaking of high-output 'buckers... I quit smoking about 7 weeks ago and rewarded myself by spending some of the money I've saved so far on a fun guitar:  Gibson "Limited Run" Melody Maker Flying V ($299 sale at MF). Ummm. Well. Construction Maple body, "baked" maple fretboard and mahogany neck. I don't get it either, but it results in an very comfortable and light guitar. The body is a smaller and thinner than the other V's in the Gibson line up; it's about 1 1/4" thick (half as thick as a standard LP at its thickest point). The finish is thin nitro which I'm sure I'll wear down in no time but that remains to be seen. The neck is also smaller and thinner than other Gibson necks I've experienced, but it still has the standard Gibson nut width and is actually quite a bit more comfortable to play. Unfortunately, the thin nitro and poor finishing on the mahogany make the neck very slow. I couldn't get a good picture of it, but you can actually see and feel the wood grain through the finish. It's just so grainy. The frets are standard jumbo Gibson frets. I guess it was run through the Plek machine or whatever, but the fret ends extend very slightly from the fretboard and need to be filed (which is pretty much expected with a cheap guitar). Hardware I didn't get a good shot of the nut, but it is cut like a wedge with the string slots cut very sharply. All strings bind which makes tuning a bit of a pain, however, the tuners, despite looking a feeling very cheap, stay in tune pretty well. We'll have to see how they hold up. The wraparound bridge is surprisingly well done.  The bridge isn't compensated like a PRS wraparound (or some nicer Gibson wraparound bridges), but Gibson has compensated for this lack of compensation by placing the bridge at a slight angle. It intonates pretty well; less than 1/8th of a semitone out at the twelfth fret judging by my Pitchblack. The lack of slots in the bridge and 46-10 strings make for a very bendy guitar which can be really fun to play with. Electronics The volume knob and output jack work. Not much to say there other than the volume knob appears to be positioned poorly but doesn't get in the way at all. No tone control, which makes sense since this is no sissy jazz guitar. The pickup is where this guitar shines.  Sounds like it looks. Very high output, like a Seymour Duncan Distortion. Right in that territory. It is called a "Seymour Duncan HB-103 (Ceramic)" but I'm going to say it's a rebranded Duncan Distortion and challenge anyone to prove me wrong. Summary The main positive of this guitar is the hot pickup which is usually the primary negative of cheap guitars. That's a $70 pup in there. The bridge is well designed, the controls are simple yet completely adequate for this guitar. The guitar is very light and comfortable to play even seated--I play with normal guitars resting on my left thigh, so putting the crotch of the V on my right thigh is in perfect position. The craftmanship of this guitar is on the lower side of expected from a $300 guitar. The neck isn't well finished and the frets end are not finished at all. The nut is poo poo. I'll spend an hour or so cleaning up the frets as that is expected with a cheap guitar, but I'll leave the rest of the neck problems for now. Frankly, if Gibson used maple for the neck they could have achieved a much better result. It's a shame really, I feel that this guitar was designed extremely well to keep the cost low, yet the craftmanship doesn't match. RetardedRobots fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jun 16, 2012 |
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