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Jun 13, 2012 23:18
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Best Figure Four Daily since Todd Martin examined the merits of the RD Evans lawsuit.
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That was great. Abyss is so good at playing that character.
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On the latest WOR, Dave gets all excited with "A FEW MORE HOURS OF YOUR BIRTHDAY?" to have Brian be like "that was yesterday, Dave." That was great.
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Jun 14, 2012 18:15
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Welp, life is over when you hit 48, thanks for the update Dave
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"You only like 3 things Bryan: combat sports, money, and Bigfoot". I died. The idea of Bryan and Vinnie spending 3 days out in the wilderness looking for Sasquatch fills me with so much joy
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Bryan's stories coming back from this trip will be amazing. I await with anticipation. I also love Lance Storm's rant in the final moments this week. Kids learning their wrestling vernacular from video games?!
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Apparently Colt just posted an AOW with Gabe
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triplexpac posted:Apparently Colt just posted an AOW with Gabe All I heard was Jimmy Bower 
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TUS posted:All I heard was Jimmy Bower I always imagine Jimmy Bower as Gabe with a rainbow wig, Groucho Marx glasses, and a patch that says 'not Gabe Sapolsky'.
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TUS posted:All I heard was Jimmy Bower Strange, I heard Chris Lovey
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LordPants posted:Is he bitter and annoying? Not really, aside from one comment about not watching ROH anymore. He talks a lot about ECW and learning from Paul Heyman. I though it was pretty interesting.
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Lance Storm is officially a bitter old man of wrestling now (if he wasn't already). It's actually kind of funny.
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I always look forward to Lance Storm's podcasts for that reason.
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Tarodia posted:Not really, aside from one comment about not watching ROH anymore. He talks a lot about ECW and learning from Paul Heyman. I though it was pretty interesting. Gabe's really friendly and approachable in person, so I'm glad it was that Gabe on AOW and not Internet nerdrage Gabe.
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CVagts posted:Lance Storm is officially a bitter old man of wrestling now (if he wasn't already). It's actually kind of funny. I have been extremely critical of Lance lately but his F4Ds have been awesome lately. He's back to really logical criticism of wrestling rather than steroid rants. Even if it's nitpicky, it is interesting to hear him go into depth on why he doesn't think things work.
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Even though I love Lance and all his criticisms are valid, I can't help but think he would rather criticize than take any joy in anything.
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The Gabe interview was great, apart from the fact he insinuated he'd be able to challenge WWE if he had have been booking during the HDnet run. Which is all well and good, except we've seen for the past 30 years that putting on the best show on TV (ECW, MSW, SMW (for their region)) doesn't make you a huge promotion. Stars are what make a promotion, which ROH didn't have.
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LordPants posted:The Gabe interview was great, apart from the fact he insinuated he'd be able to challenge WWE if he had have been booking during the HDnet run. Which is all well and good, except we've seen for the past 30 years that putting on the best show on TV (ECW, MSW, SMW (for their region)) doesn't make you a huge promotion. Stars are what make a promotion, which ROH didn't have.
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LividLiquid posted:Even though I love Lance and all his criticisms are valid, I can't help but think he would rather criticize than take any joy in anything. Storm watched the most recent Impact yesterday and was somewhat posting on Twitter while doing it. He actually put it over pretty strongly, even the gauntlet match that he critiqued on the podcast. So I'd assume that for his next appearance he'll be praising TNA.
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LividLiquid posted:I really don't buy that, because TNA had tons of hugely marketable stars, many of whom are and were household names, and their product sucked, so nothing happened. I'd argue that a good product makes its own stars. Samoa Joe was almost a star once, and Bobby Roode is on his way there. Yes, it's only with wrestling fans, but the same can be said of everybody since Rock. I mention Brock Lesnar in mixed company and nobody knows who the dude is and he was the biggest PVP draw on the planet for like, three years. Well that's correct, and I never said that wasn't the case. But history has shown (ROH, MSW, ECW) that you don't become big without stars. You don't "make stars" out of thin air.
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Vince: The guys getting over aren't what I thought would get over? This surely is evidence that my vision of what a star should be is the right thing. Vince is a loving loon.
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LordPants posted:Well that's correct, and I never said that wasn't the case. But history has shown (ROH, MSW, ECW) that you don't become big without stars. You don't "make stars" out of thin air.
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LordPants posted:Well that's correct, and I never said that wasn't the case. But history has shown (ROH, MSW, ECW) that you don't become big without stars. You don't "make stars" out of thin air. If you show guys doing poo poo that makes them look like stars, people will believe they are stars. See: Bobby Roooo giving a championship speech in front of the Houses of Parliament in the UK as a group of fans chanted "BOBBY". gently caress, the Impact guys can do just about anything in the UK and look like stars just because the fanbase here is rabid. Can't wait to actually be at the Wembley shows this year.
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njsykora posted:If you show guys doing poo poo that makes them look like stars, people will believe they are stars. See: Bobby Roooo giving a championship speech in front of the Houses of Parliament in the UK as a group of fans chanted "BOBBY". gently caress, the Impact guys can do just about anything in the UK and look like stars just because the fanbase here is rabid. Can't wait to actually be at the Wembley shows this year. How the gently caress did they film in front of the Houses of Parliament? Fairly sure that's illegal under anti terror laws and I do not believe that TNA has the forethought to get permission to film on that location.
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LividLiquid posted:Sure you do. How else would you suggest a star is made? Misawa beat Jumbo, Hunter beat Foley, Austin beat Michaels... You don't have to even beat them (Sting) you just have to be seen on the same level as a real star. That, is why we have matches in the first place. If you were correct, ECW would be drawing as much as WWF because their product was better in the mid 90s. But they didn't have anyone that anyone wanted to pay money to see. How come WWF won in the 80s? Because they bought everyone's stars meaning that everyone that people wanted to buy to see was on a WWF show.
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ECW was able to develop stars pretty well, but they were badly undercapitalized and had lovely television.
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I don't know why developing stars and Bobby Roode are coming up in the same sentence since to date TNA has failed at doing so. He's not becoming a star by any metric other than "guys on the internet like him." I dunno, maybe he suddenly will start turning it around in the 8th month of his title reign.
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Something about Roode still hasnt connected with me. His new look does him absolutely no favors also. I don't think he's poo poo like I did in Mid 00's but still he just doesn't come off as a star.
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MassRayPer posted:I don't know why developing stars and Bobby Roode are coming up in the same sentence since to date TNA has failed at doing so. He's not becoming a star by any metric other than "guys on the internet like him." I dunno, maybe he suddenly will start turning it around in the 8th month of his title reign. TNA has only been good for like a month and a bit, dude. They keep it up and guys like Bobby Roode and James Storm will be stars by virtue of being what people are paying to see on PPV, which I'm willing to bet money will increase now that they're actually booking things as if they matter.
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Gonzo McFee posted:TNA has only been good for like a month and a bit, dude. They keep it up and guys like Bobby Roode and James Storm will be stars by virtue of being what people are paying to see on PPV, which I'm willing to bet money will increase now that they're actually booking things as if they matter. Roode and Storm have both exposed too long as nothing guys on a nothing show to suddenly turn into major stars. That doesn't mean that TNA can't produce major stars eventually, they're just not going to be it unless some crazy poo poo happens.
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Gonzo McFee posted:TNA has only been good for like a month and a bit, dude. They keep it up and guys like Bobby Roode and James Storm will be stars by virtue of being what people are paying to see on PPV, which I'm willing to bet money will increase now that they're actually booking things as if they matter. Or people like me who have been conditioned not to give a poo poo about TNA can never see the guys they wasted for nearly a decade as stars because they have always been such geeks. Or Bobby Roode just isn't a star. Maybe it's like Meltzer says, he's an Arn Anderson type, not a Ric Flair type. It's also not like TNA produced stars during its good period. They pushed Christian to the moon and he didn't draw and he had some name value.
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jeffersonlives posted:Roode and Storm have both exposed too long as nothing guys on a nothing show to suddenly turn into major stars. That doesn't mean that TNA can't produce major stars eventually, they're just not going to be it unless some crazy poo poo happens. I think they've been doing pretty well in the past few weeks and if they keep it up they'll get over as stars. I mean they had Hogan call Austin Aries pretty much the next big thing, they start jobbing out yesterday's stars like RVD and Bully Ray to them and you've got yourself a new generation of talent. And they really have to, since they need to be made stars because the already made stars like most of the TNA main event are past it and the "Young" guys like Jeff Hardy can't be trusted with that much responsibility. Seriously, Jeff Hardy is like William Regal. Fantastic in their roles but any time they're called up the pressure gets to them and they relapse into their drug problems.
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I'm guessing I'm the only one that thinks James Storm has more potential as a star out of the two?
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LordPants posted:Misawa beat Jumbo, Hunter beat Foley, Austin beat Michaels... quote:If you were correct, ECW would be drawing as much as WWF because their product was better in the mid 90s. But they didn't have anyone that anyone wanted to pay money to see. quote:How come WWF won in the 80s? Because they bought everyone's stars meaning that everyone that people wanted to buy to see was on a WWF show.
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LividLiquid posted:
By what metric? Nash did better ratings on Spike and drew better on PPV. That was basically ONE PPV, but when Nash was in main event storylines or big matches on TV TNA was doing better than it is now. You can say that wasn't because of Nash and it wasn't. You can say the low ratings now aren't Roode's fault and maybe they aren't (even though they have dipped closer to a 1.0 for most of this year) but you have no evidence of this. As loving awful as the main event Mafia was and as lame as the Nash vs Foley feud was, the ratings were better then. On top of that even when TNA sucked if they put together a good month of build for a match (Joe vs Angle at Lockdown) business turned around for that. This didn't happen for Storm vs Roode. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jun 17, 2012 |
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