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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Midorka posted:

I have a 4 pack of Matilda and was contemplating aging the 4, did it hold up well to that many years?

I'm with crazyfish on the oxidization call; to me it tasted mildly of apple cider vinegar, but was mostly pruney, with a cotton candy kind of sweetness throughout. No yeast to speak of. I didn't hate it, but I preferred the '09.

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I Dont Like You
Jul 6, 2003
King Henry was the first beer I cracked open this year. Felt VERY, VERY good... man.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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funkybottoms posted:

hey, Munkaboo, Greg from Whole Foods just posted this:

It's Growler TIME!!!!
$3 off all 64 oz. fills Friday thru Sunday.
these are the kegs in stock:
Sculpin,Fullers porter,Avery 19th,Bells Amber,Avery White Rascal,St. Bernardus Wit,New Holland oaked hatter,Sneaky pete Ipa,2009 Redhook eisbock,Stone RIS,Barrel aged Gonzo,Troegenator,brasserie de rocs blonde,Tart Lychee,Heavy Seas Great Pumpkin,Epic Hop Syndrome & Brainless Corruption,Sierra bigfoot,Bitter American,Brooklyn Gold Standard,Sierra Hoptimum,Unibroue Blonde De Chambly

VVV Mekong and Whole Foods get fresh Sculpin on the regular; they've got some pull in the local beer scene VVV

I dont have any growlers with me, how much are those 32oz cappable bottles?

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Whisker Biscuit posted:

I guess I am in the minority when I say that Parabola and Abacus > Bourbon County and King Henry. Abacus vs King Henry might be a personal preference thing, but this thread is the first time I've heard of someone liking Bourbon County more than parabola.

I've had Parabola and multiple Bourbon County variants, and I have to say that Parabola is really great, but BCBS is on a whole other level.

I Dont Like You
Jul 6, 2003

crazyfish posted:

I've had Parabola and multiple Bourbon County variants, and I have to say that Parabola is really great, but BCBS is on a whole other level.

Ya know, I don't think I've ever really heard of too many people preferring Parabola over BCBS.

Also, I really wish Parabola made it's way to Wisconsin. Blargh.

kwantam
Mar 25, 2008

-=kwantam
In Paris on vacation. Drinking some tasty French and Belgian beers.

Went to Académie de la Bière near the Port-Royal Metro station. Superb bottle list and decent tap selection. Had a Rodenbach Grand Cru. gently caress me, what a beer.

Swung by Bootlegger and picked up some more bottles of Rodenbach, plus a Lindemans Faro (I hear meh things but I've never drunk a Faro) and a Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze. Probably bringing these back to the states with me other than the Faro.

la cave a bulles is another great beer shop here in Paris, and I've picked up a bunch of bottles there. Don't have a list; I'll have to post when I get home.

Right now I'm enjoying Anosteke from Brasserie du Pays Flamand, a French brewery. It's kind of like a tripel with some strong floral hopping. The hop varietal is apparently something native to northern France, reminiscent of Saaz.

The other night I had another Oude Gueuze, this one from Hanssens Artisanaal. Better than any other geuze I've tried. Beautiful lingering sour notes, complex yeast character up front, great mouthfeel, nice effervescence. Superb beer.

After the Oude Geuze I had a Fleurac la Triple Brune IPA. Strange description for a beer; it's got some definite tripel character, especially in the nose, but it's got some dark fruit character like a Belgian strong dark as well. It's a big enough beer at 8% that the hop character was well balanced rather than super hoppy a la American IPAs. The bitterness helps keep it from being too cloying despite being a bit sweet.

The last one I tried was Sorachi Ace Bitter from Brasserie du Mont Saleve. This is a very small beer at 2.5%, and it's insanely highly hopped (180 IBUs is the claim, but in reality wort tends to saturate around 100 IBUs, so I'd guess it wouldn't measure there). What a beer, though! It's super easy drinking, and the Sorachi Ace hops have a nice floral/vegetal characteristic that manage not to be insanely unbalanced despite the very very low malt levels. Don't get me wrong, this beer is nothing like "balanced" in the true sense of the word, but the clean bitterness and strong hop character mean that it ends up being like a nice, sessionable bitter that nevertheless is intensely hoppy. Great beer.

Finally, I sampled a Thisted Limfjords Double Brown Stout with the owner of la cave a bulles (a very cool guy, by the way!). This is a Danish beer that's not actually available here in Paris, but a customer brought one in for him to sample and he generously split it with me when he and his business partner were trying it. This beer is what all strong stouts should be like. Roasty and a bit smoky in the nose, and an amazing dark malt character up front. As you swallow, you begin to get the intense bitterness of the beer that was to this point balanced out by the roasty, chocolatey malt character. The bitterness lingers, helping to clear your palate and eliminating any hint of cloying sweetness. The experience of drinking this beer is in every way superb. I have no idea where I would find it in the States, but I will try my damndest. A perfect example of a strong stout.

I've got a couple more kicking around the apartment fridge (Cantillon 100% Bio Geuze, Mondiale Perle) that I'll write up after I drink them.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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I Dont Like You posted:

Ya know, I don't think I've ever really heard of too many people preferring Parabola over BCBS.

Also, I really wish Parabola made it's way to Wisconsin. Blargh.

I do, I thought BCS was too boozey.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Munkaboo posted:

I dont have any growlers with me, how much are those 32oz cappable bottles?

i think WF sells 32oz swing-top growlers for $5, Hardywood Park about the same

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
I'm in sort of a beer funk lately. I've been drinking a ton of pale ale and IPA and am looking for a bit of a change. My buddy is having a bbq tonight for his birthday and I am going to mix a 6 to bring over. What's everyone drinking recently? I'll take brewery and style suggestions. I'm in NJ area so no Bell's, Boulevard, FFF etc.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Wow just went to the grocery store and decided to check some dates. They had some Two Hearted Ale with a bottle date of 11/11 Feel bad for whoever grabs that.

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


I'm kind of miffed that I work at Goose and haven't gotten to try King Henry yet, but the brewers tend to be the last to actually get things like that. :v:

For Chicagoons (and Chicago visitors): West Lakeview Liquors is having one of the guys from De Molen pouring rare and unusual stuff tomorrow from 1-4. I'll probably make it out there for a bit before heading to work.

Also, if any of you are interested in a short tour of Goose Island Fulton before getting totally snockered tomorrow night, PM me - I start work at 6PM but should be able to fit a short tour in before then. :)

Recently reconfirmed my love for both Weihenstephaner Weissbier and Stone RIS. Both near the top of their respective styles, for a reasonable amount of money.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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Harminoff posted:

Wow just went to the grocery store and decided to check some dates. They had some Two Hearted Ale with a bottle date of 11/11 Feel bad for whoever grabs that.

Victory Summer Love, Troeg's Sunshine Pils, uhmm where do you live.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Harminoff posted:

Wow just went to the grocery store and decided to check some dates. They had some Two Hearted Ale with a bottle date of 11/11 Feel bad for whoever grabs that.

I bet it's still delicious. That beer can do no wrong.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Munkaboo posted:

Victory Summer Love

I second this. Hadn't tried it until it started getting hyped here and it is delicious. I don't know if they're technically the same style, but I'd compare it very favorably (probably better) than FFF's Gumballhead.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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danbanana posted:

I second this. Hadn't tried it until it started getting hyped here and it is delicious. I don't know if they're technically the same style, but I'd compare it very favorably (probably better) than FFF's Gumballhead.

Summer Love is second only to Gumballhead. GH is so good.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Ubik posted:

I'm kind of miffed that I work at Goose and haven't gotten to try King Henry yet, but the brewers tend to be the last to actually get things like that. :v:

I'm really shocked that you don't have an insight track to acquiring at least one bottle of every Goose Island release.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Just as a reminder, this is happening tomorrow:

Sirotan posted:

Anyway, this Saturday in Chicago I hope a few of you (and I'll probably bug the few of you I've met fyi) will come to a bottle share. We are going to start here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/barbari-cafe-chicago at 4:30pm. I imagine we'll be there for a couple of hours, after which we will be hitting some bars in the area like Happy Village, Small Bar, and where ever else we want to go. If you're gonna go, send me a PM and I can give you my phone # in case you are wanting to hit us up later in the evening. I'll probably be bringing some Jolly Pumpkin and Founders stuff though so you better come and help me drink it. :mad:

Picking out what beers to bring. Can't decide between KBS or Better Half hmm...

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Sirotan posted:

Just as a reminder, this is happening tomorrow:


Picking out what beers to bring. Can't decide between KBS or Better Half hmm...

Don't bring KBS I have oodles.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Sirotan posted:

Just as a reminder, this is happening tomorrow:


Picking out what beers to bring. Can't decide between KBS or Better Half hmm...

I don't think I'm gonna be able to make it :smith: Just have too much going on tomorrow to be able to stop in.

ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.
I feel like all I have in my fridge is Bramble Rye, a bunch of Pipeworks, and a rye'd da lightning by 3F. Any of those interest peoples?

I'm excited to meet ya guys tho hehe.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


ChiTownEddie posted:

I feel like all I have in my fridge is Bramble Rye, a bunch of Pipeworks, and a rye'd da lightning by 3F. Any of those interest peoples?

I'm excited to meet ya guys tho hehe.

Well, I've never had any of those beers before, so there you go. At this point thinking Better Half, Sobrehumano Paleno 'ole, and barrel aged Plead the 5th??

Josh Wow
Feb 28, 2005

We need more beer up here!

Harminoff posted:

Wow just went to the grocery store and decided to check some dates. They had some Two Hearted Ale with a bottle date of 11/11 Feel bad for whoever grabs that.

I just had a 9 month old Two Hearted at a restaurant and it was fine. Even hoppy beers are fine after a while if they were packaged well. Not as good as fresh but still pretty drat good

ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.

Sirotan posted:

Well, I've never had any of those beers before, so there you go.

Perfect.
Since I don't know any of you, or this place...I'm a 6' skinny white kid who will, lets see, be wearing a Half Acre shirt (might as well nerd it out!) hehe.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Retemnav posted:

FS, you're in NC, right? Can you share what bar called dibs.....

It was a logical deduction - I only saw the memo field on the manifest, the account number (basically like a unique ID that each of the distributor's customers has) wasn't one of ours, and the company doesn't typically deliver to stores like Sam's in Durham or Tasty Bev/Bottle Rev in Raleigh. I bet you it was World of Beer since they sometimes snipe kegs when Tyler's and Flying Saucer aren't looking, it seems.

Expect an over-priced Founders tap takeover featuring KBS whenever they can charge the most for it (so, like eight weeks before the 2013 bottle release, I bet). gently caress WoB.

If anyone leaks who it was, I'll post in the thread so we can all hound them to tap it for some crazy off-peak time like a Tuesday morning :)

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Sirotan posted:

Just as a reminder, this is happening tomorrow:


Picking out what beers to bring. Can't decide between KBS or Better Half hmm...

Sorry bradda, packed schedule. Besides, I have nothing to share, so I'd be dead, drunk weight.

E: unless someone wants ten cans of Brooklyn Summer Ale

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

lazerwolf posted:

I'm in sort of a beer funk lately. I've been drinking a ton of pale ale and IPA and am looking for a bit of a change. My buddy is having a bbq tonight for his birthday and I am going to mix a 6 to bring over. What's everyone drinking recently? I'll take brewery and style suggestions. I'm in NJ area so no Bell's, Boulevard, FFF etc.

Troegs Troegenator, Victory's Summer Love, Sixpoint Apollo, Left Hand Milk Stout, 21st Amendment Monk's Blood (if you find any), and Dofish Head Festina Peche. Pretty rounded list there of various things. I really enjoyed Apollo so definitely give that a try if you find it, same with Monk's Blood.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

ShaneB posted:

I believe rage-saq is the biggest fan of highly aged Matilda, saying it gets as good/better than Orval.

I prefer it to Orval because I don't like Hallertau and Orval has a Hallertau and Matilda doesn't. I'm also not crazy about Saaz but it works in Matilda.
I've aged several vintages of Matilda though none as old as 2007 and I've also done side by side comparisons.
(batch 8/11/11) Matilda aged less than 6 months warm is pretty flat and boring, certainly compared to one aged for a year (batch 12/10/10). The young matilda has no funk because the brett hasn't had the time, and that is what really what makes the beer. The beers really taste dramatically different.
Open up that same batch of Matilda months later (which I have) and the funk is there and the beer is awesome. I opened both up once recently when they were 18 months and 12 months old and they started to resemble the same beer with slight differences.

Firaga
Jan 4, 2005
WHAT YOU SAY
I'm in Upstate NY for the weekend and I'm looking for a recommendation.
I really like IPAs. Some of my favourite brands are Dogfish Head, Delirium, Rogue Dead Guy and Magic Hat. I would love a recommendation for the next IPA I should get.
I tried Seattle's Red Hook IPA today as well, that was great.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Firaga posted:

I'm in Upstate NY for the weekend and I'm looking for a recommendation.

dunno where you live and what you normally have access to, but if i were in upstate NY i'd be looking for beers from Ithaca Beer Company, Captain Lawrence, and Hill Farmstead

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair

Firaga posted:

I'm in Upstate NY for the weekend and I'm looking for a recommendation.
I really like IPAs. Some of my favourite brands are Dogfish Head, Delirium, Rogue Dead Guy and Magic Hat. I would love a recommendation for the next IPA I should get.
I tried Seattle's Red Hook IPA today as well, that was great.

If you're in the Syracuse or Rochester area, they get Firestone Walker Double Jack as well as their normal Union Jack, which are both excellent.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?

FreelanceSocialist posted:

It was a logical deduction - I only saw the memo field on the manifest, the account number (basically like a unique ID that each of the distributor's customers has) wasn't one of ours, and the company doesn't typically deliver to stores like Sam's in Durham or Tasty Bev/Bottle Rev in Raleigh. I bet you it was World of Beer since they sometimes snipe kegs when Tyler's and Flying Saucer aren't looking, it seems.

Expect an over-priced Founders tap takeover featuring KBS whenever they can charge the most for it (so, like eight weeks before the 2013 bottle release, I bet). gently caress WoB.

If anyone leaks who it was, I'll post in the thread so we can all hound them to tap it for some crazy off-peak time like a Tuesday morning :)

Duckworth's Park had a KBS breakfast tapping this morning, so I'm guessing it was them. Actually down here in Charlotte visiting some breweries, so I might give them a call to see if they have any left for lunch.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

Welp I got incredibly plowed at Cigar City last night. Xenu is an amazing loving lager. God I love lagers :allears:

Got a big sour fest today then tomorrow we're selling growlers of Apple Brandy barrel-aged Zhukov's for the family of Ben Harris, dude from Redhook who died in a freak exploding keg accident.

kwantam
Mar 25, 2008

-=kwantam
Drank a 375 of Lindemans Faro tonight and I totally see what the "meh" is about. First few sips you're like "oh hey that's nice, a slightly sweetened geuze." About the fourth sip you're like UGH this is WAY too sweet up front, and drinking gets a bit ponderous.

It's a fine beer to try, but the sweetness up front makes it distinctly less drinkable than most sours. I'd say most flavored lambics might even have an edge on it, since those at least have some fruit-based sourness to balance the sweetness from the fruit. I have to admit, I haven't had any kind of fruited lambic in a while, so I can't be certain that nowadays I wouldn't react the same way to those. I've grown really sensitive to over-sweet beers.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

kwantam posted:

Drank a 375 of Lindemans Faro tonight and I totally see what the "meh" is about. First few sips you're like "oh hey that's nice, a slightly sweetened geuze." About the fourth sip you're like UGH this is WAY too sweet up front, and drinking gets a bit ponderous.

It's a fine beer to try, but the sweetness up front makes it distinctly less drinkable than most sours. I'd say most flavored lambics might even have an edge on it, since those at least have some fruit-based sourness to balance the sweetness from the fruit. I have to admit, I haven't had any kind of fruited lambic in a while, so I can't be certain that nowadays I wouldn't react the same way to those. I've grown really sensitive to over-sweet beers.

Faro is almost definitely my least favourite style of beer. Lindemans gets a lot of hate for their cloying "fruit" lambics, but their gueuze actually isn't bad at all (and much cheaper than others at $10/750).

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Had a couple beers today. I started with a Coney Island Sword Swallower IPA; overall it was a pretty good IPA. The taste was malty up front and had a bitter, hoppy finish. Apparently this is brewed with lager yeast; I'm not sure what difference that is supposed to make (I'm a beer newbie compared to some of the people here) but I thought it was pretty good. I would pick up another bomber of this.

I followed that up with a Moylan's Brewing Company Danny's Irish Style Red Ale. I enjoyed this more than the IPA, which I thought was odd because I prefer pale ales. This beer started with almost a coffee front that transitioned really well into a maple-y flavor, but not like a maple syrup. The finish was really smooth and I enjoyed this much more than the first beer. I'm definitely going to pick up another bomber of this, and I might pick up their IPA as well to give it a try.

Also need to share this beer list for my wedding. All of these are on tap and included in the bar package:

Bell's Seasonal White Ale
Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale
Guinness
Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy
New Belgium Fat Tire Amber
New Belgium Ranger IPA
Dark Horse Crooked Tree IPA
Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale
Brother Thelonious
Anchor Porter
Hop Sun
Dark Horse Sapient Ale

Really pumped for the wedding, going to have to sample all of those.

I also had a Hoptimum last night, and I didn't care for it all that much. I didn't like the super bitter finish and the beer just didn't taste all that great to me, it had a really strong pine taste to me. I'm glad it only came in a 4 pack.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
Wanna go to your wedding. Congrats :cheers:

Also, bought Reyon Vert the other night, didn't like it that much at first but it's grown on me. Very funky if a little too sour. What others beers is Brett used in? Also I wish I read this sooner: Pour over a sink or outdoors. Even with a cautious pour, it turns to a torrent of foam as soon as it hits the glass - impossible to pour without stopping to let it settle or overfill the glass.

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 16, 2012

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

americanzero4128 posted:

Had a couple beers today. I started with a Coney Island Sword Swallower IPA; overall it was a pretty good IPA. The taste was malty up front and had a bitter, hoppy finish. Apparently this is brewed with lager yeast; I'm not sure what difference that is supposed to make (I'm a beer newbie compared to some of the people here) but I thought it was pretty good. I would pick up another bomber of this.

I followed that up with a Moylan's Brewing Company Danny's Irish Style Red Ale. I enjoyed this more than the IPA, which I thought was odd because I prefer pale ales. This beer started with almost a coffee front that transitioned really well into a maple-y flavor, but not like a maple syrup. The finish was really smooth and I enjoyed this much more than the first beer. I'm definitely going to pick up another bomber of this, and I might pick up their IPA as well to give it a try.

Also need to share this beer list for my wedding. All of these are on tap and included in the bar package:

Bell's Seasonal White Ale
Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale
Guinness
Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy
New Belgium Fat Tire Amber
New Belgium Ranger IPA
Dark Horse Crooked Tree IPA
Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous Ale
Brother Thelonious
Anchor Porter
Hop Sun
Dark Horse Sapient Ale

Really pumped for the wedding, going to have to sample all of those.

I also had a Hoptimum last night, and I didn't care for it all that much. I didn't like the super bitter finish and the beer just didn't taste all that great to me, it had a really strong pine taste to me. I'm glad it only came in a 4 pack.

Impressive list. Congratulations, too.

For content, I bought some Boulevard Single Wide IPA and am not at all a fan. I guess just straight Pales for me. I also find Founder's Breakfast Stout a bit harsher than most on here. It's not BAD, necessarily, but it's certainly not a favorite of mine. I was thinking of making a Black & Tan with the two and seeing how that works out. Thoughts? Am I just wasting a couple of pretty good beers with this?

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

Captain Shortbus posted:

For content, I bought some Boulevard Single Wide IPA and am not at all a fan. I guess just straight Pales for me.

It's all about the Double Wide IPA

e: maybe not if you don't like IPA compared to Pale ales, since it's DIPA

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I was "easing in" to IPAs. I just don't like the flavor profile at all. I'll try some different ones in the future, but not a 6 pack or anything. I'm not sure I want to spend $15 on a magnum of a beer that's a stronger version of a beer I didn't like.

e: VV same time post VV

Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jun 16, 2012

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TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

Captain Shortbus posted:

I was "easing in" to IPAs. I just don't like the flavor profile at all. I'll try some different ones in the future, but not a 6 pack or anything. I'm not sure I want to spend $15 on a magnum of a beer that's a stronger version of a beer I didn't like.

Hence my edit.

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