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It took me a sec to pronounce it correctly, but Sarswapagus was something I was not ready for. Ridiculous puns.
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I like to think that there will be, one day, some completely naive archive reader that will just totally never predict any twist that happens in Homestuck. All of those anti-climatic and flippant reveals will seem so mean to that person. It's hilarious.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:11
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Thundarr posted:That may well be the shittiest pun in the comic so far. Meteors within the game universe?
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Jun 21, 2012 04:12
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Holy poo poo UU and uu share a body I am completely amazed and surprised by this shocking twist revelation. Also, uu's red cheek spirals confirmed by this point.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:12
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Wondering what the point of the doorway would be if you're always chained up in the room. I mean, they obviously got there through there and will leave through it, but that's just got to be there taunting them.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:13
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Someone comes by occasionally and drops meat and candy down for them, so that they don't starve. This person, of course, is Vriska.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:15
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I gotta say, I'm pretty happy with how early we figured that one out. I think that was first called in this thread like over a month ago.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:16
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Acidophilus posted:I like to think that there will be, one day, some completely naive archive reader that will just totally never predict any twist that happens in Homestuck. She's not caught up yet, but the liveblog treestuck is pretty much this already. It's hilarious.
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Jun 21, 2012 04:20
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Starmaker posted:Someone comes by occasionally and drops meat and candy down for them, so that they don't starve. Nah, she will have eaten the meat/candy before that. Because she's fat.
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Jun 21, 2012 05:05
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Acidophilus posted:I like to think that there will be, one day, some completely naive archive reader that will just totally never predict any twist that happens in Homestuck. I would be one of those people if I hadn't been following fan speculation since day one  Okay, the body sharing thing I probably would have figured out, but there are a thousand other things that other people noticed and everyone started instantly taking for granted that I never would have noticed on my own. Like the class and aspect stuff before it was explicitly detailed in the story, or the trolls' connection to the zodiac before we ever even saw any of them.
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Fedorafreak is their guardian. If I keep joking about Fedorafreak making an appearance, one day I'll be right. That's what I tell myself.
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Jun 21, 2012 05:11
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Oh yeah, I don't know if anyone noticed this, but there was a tiny bit of foreshadowing in Dirk's conversation with uu:quote:uu: I FEEL SO uTTERLY OBSCENE EVEN *TYPING* THIS. Which could refer to his blood color, of course, but also to the red spirals which are sure to be on his cheeks - which, at the time, would have been a pretty clear LE clue.
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Jun 21, 2012 05:56
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Starmaker posted:This person, of course, is Vriska. Meenah, perhaps? She went off to the Pink Moon on her own before session. We know nothing about it, other than I think Aranea mentioned Skaia-tech was found there. And we know that Scratch-physics means that the A1 universe doesn't stop existing when they scratched.
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Jun 21, 2012 05:58
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How did they even get into this situation of theirs? How did this setup come to be? If they're in the game right now, in one of those Veil Meteor places, how did they proceed through the game to this point and what prompted this imprisonment? Best I can guess is they were scizophrenic when the game started and the game treated them as two players OR they were alone and tried to create a one-player session and the game's need for two players (one of each gender, mandatory class aspects) forcibly bifurcated their personality. They stumbled along to this point, struggling with their condition, quarreling for control of their body, until they decided to use their lab as their home base and came up with their complicated system of rules and safeguards as the "truce" between them. Perhaps their separate dream selves (if that's still a thing) allowed one of them to try and pursue winning the game while the other had the real-self body and busied themselves reading and checking up on the B2 players. That's my guess anyway.
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Dolash posted:How did they even get into this situation of theirs? How did this setup come to be? If they're in the game right now, in one of those Veil Meteor places, how did they proceed through the game to this point and what prompted this imprisonment? Pretty much all of their dialogue indicates that they haven't started playing Sburb yet.
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Jun 21, 2012 06:37
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starfish prime posted:Oh yeah, I don't know if anyone noticed this, but there was a tiny bit of foreshadowing in Dirk's conversation with uu: For gently caress's sake, Hussie.
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Jun 21, 2012 06:42
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fatherdog posted:Pretty much all of their dialogue indicates that they haven't started playing Sburb yet. Ah. I had thought Calliope talking about Skaia darkening and the like indicated that they were playing, but on second thought you're right, that could've just been her having an awake dream self and observing Skaia from Prospit. Their little room also looked like a veil meteor but looking like a grey room is hardly proof. Likewise their ability to see the B2 players isn't proof either, it's just weird for them to have access to cross-universe communication devices. It still seems odd they should know their own classes before the game even begins, but these two are nothing but odd and have access to a lot of information sources. I guess if they really aren't playing that makes their situation all the stranger. Do their race all have these Sarswapawhatevers? Do they all have dual personalities? Where are they, exactly, and how did they get into this position, and who keeps them supplied? *edit* Does the ladder next to the Sarswap-thing look like the ladder out of the skaia-tech pod-thing WV was in? Could they be in one of those exile stations?
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Dolash posted:*edit* Does the ladder next to the Sarswap-thing look like the ladder out of the skaia-tech pod-thing WV was in? Could they be in one of those exile stations? Nice pick up. I thought it might be a meteor like the Trolls were chilling on, but reports indicate they aren't in the game yet so v  v
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Jun 21, 2012 06:58
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And there it is, a massive red star. Could this be another one, or the Green Sun at the end of its life, a finale to eternity?
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Oh hey, there's the world-ending threat that encourages play of Sburb! Any day now eh 
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Update. Betcha that star collapses and absorbs the Green Sun as in Calliope's drawing
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Bell_ posted:And there it is, a massive red star. Could this be another one, or the Green Sun at the end of its life, a finale to eternity? Black holes, man. Hussie's gonna bust out what happens when... well, black holes happen.
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I'm pretty sure they're not in a veil meteor but an exile station. It looks very similar to the one WV was trapped in, or that Spades Slick found under Lord English's Mansion. E: update as I was typing it.
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In retrospect, with all the red/green dichotomy, this seems incredibly obvious. What if there's a blue sun to match the curtains? 
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Bell_ posted:And there it is, a massive red star. Could this be another one, or the Green Sun at the end of its life, a finale to eternity? Well, it's just a massive red supergiant. That's pretty mundane. Does mean it'll go supernova soon though! They're probably living in an exile station on a planet that has already been wiped out by meteors. Could be the present "Earth" a billion years in the future, for example.
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Zorak posted:They're probably living in an exile station on a planet that has already been wiped out by meteors. Could be the present "Earth" a billion years in the future, for example. But B2-Earth is getting wiped out by the Red Miles as recently as 413 years in the future. No way it survives a billion years. B1-Earth has a similar problem. And A2-Alternia was destroyed with no sign of a Red Sun. It might be A1-Alternia, but odds are just some new place.
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Dolash posted:Their little room also looked like a veil meteor but looking like a grey room is hardly proof. Their room being an exile station is one of the first things that occurred to me, but that wouldn't demonstrate anything; WV and the rest of the exiles weren't playing. quote:Likewise their ability to see the B2 players isn't proof either, it's just weird for them to have access to cross-universe communication devices. Jake and Jade both had them before playing the game. quote:I guess if they really aren't playing that makes their situation all the stranger. Do their race all have these Sarswapawhatevers? Do they all have dual personalities? quote:UU: i believed he and i coUld play together, even Under oUr UniqUe biological circUmstances. This implies that their situation is unique to them, rather than being a cherub thing. quote:Where are they, exactly, and how did they get into this position, and who keeps them supplied? These are good questions, which may or may not ever be answered.
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Bobulus posted:But B2-Earth is getting wiped out by the Red Miles as recently as 413 years in the future. No way it survives a billion years. I was thinking something along the lines of Zorak, and though I don't think it's the case for other reasons (Which I will point out after the explanation), I had another reason for thinking so. When UU was talking about how the Genesis frogs work she mentioned that there were all possible instances of the universe, scratched or not. She also mentioned that some were destroyed by the Red Miles before they even started. So that means that some other instances aren't destroyed by the Red Miles until long, long after. But anyways, the reason I don't think that's the case is that it says it is a red supergiant, and the sun is only supposed to become a normal red giant later on, IIRC.
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I have to say, this is probably one of the better-illustrated panels that Hussie has done. It really makes UU look less like awful and frightening.
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We've got a visual callback to Terezi in [S] Make Her Pay right here. Given they share a body, I wonder how uu steering changes it exactly? Despite her monstrous appearance, Calliope seems female-shaped when rendered in more detail. It's not so strong that they couldn't just be generally androgynous (and only the eyes/cheek swirlies change) though.
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Quotetype posted:I have to say, this is probably one of the better-illustrated panels that Hussie has done. It really makes UU look less like awful and frightening. I'm pretty sure he didn't actually draw that and it's just a modification of that one Art Team piece way back from the Make Her Pay flash. Also, I just realized something--Roxy is probably the last kid Calliope should've confided her name in. I can totally see Roxy typing in "callipoe" or something and uu realizes the jig is up and just destroys the computer before she can correct herself.
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Quotetype posted:I have to say, this is probably one of the better-illustrated panels that Hussie has done. It really makes UU look less like awful and frightening. All I know is that it would make a bitchin' wallpaper. I'm probably a little hesitant to give up my current one though.  e: i now have a file named "boner.png" on my computer.
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Speaking as an astrophysicist, how on anywhere is that planet even remotely habitable. Anywhere far enough from the star not to get burnt to a crisp when it went red giant would have been too far out to support life in the first place. And red giants don't last long enough for life to evolve while they're in that phase. Yes, I know, I know, artistic licence, why can you suspend disbelief in a ton of places but not here, etc. But some things just stick. For what it's worth, Alternia's red sun is a bit dodgy too: assuming it's a main sequence star (and if it isn't we have the same problem as the cherubs' planet), its light should be less harsh than the Sun's because red main sequence stars are cooler and smaller than yellow main sequence stars like the Sun (they're the red dwarfs that, well, Red Dwarf is named after). Granted Alternia could be much closer to its star than Earth is to the Sun, but then you have the issue of tidal locking (the phenomenon where bodies' rotation cycles (their "day") start synching up with the cycles of the body they orbit (their "year")). Our Moon is completely tidally locked with Earth, which is why we always see the same face of it: its rotation rate and period for orbiting the Earth are identical, about 29 days. Mercury is partially tidally locked with the Sun, the length of its days being in a 2:3 ratio with the length of its years (59:86, if I recall correctly). Tidally locked planets will have areas exposed to their star for a very long time, and areas with no light for a very long time, pretty horrible conditions for getting life to evolve. ... yeah, I just wrote a ton of stuff that'll probably get me called a sperg. But you know how it is with pet peeves.
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I don't see how a giant red sun is implausible when there is already a Green Sun "twice the mass of the universe," which if I am reading Wikipedia right would be 2*[1.43×10^53] kg. That's a lot of sun! Also, this sun grants people magic powers.
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Throwing down the Giygas imagery.
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Paul.Power posted:Speaking as an astrophysicist, how on anywhere is that planet even remotely habitable. Anywhere far enough from the star not to get burnt to a crisp when it went red giant would have been too far out to support life in the first place. And red giants don't last long enough for life to evolve while they're in that phase. Calliope mentioned that cherubs don't have a home planet. If this isn't their home planet that means they came here at some point, which means they could have come here post-red-giant phase and not evolved here.
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Paul.Power posted:Speaking as an astrophysicist, how on anywhere is that planet even remotely habitable. Anywhere far enough from the star not to get burnt to a crisp when it went red giant would have been too far out to support life in the first place. And red giants don't last long enough for life to evolve while they're in that phase. Speaking as another astrophysicist, while the specific luminosity may be less, it is apparently a lot bigger and closer, so it is still an object that is hard to miss. A space alien's monologue shouldn't be taking as an objective scientific statement, either. The blinding Alternian sun could be just as easily taken to "crazy alien eyes" or a different proximity. Staring at the sun either way would be pretty blinding!! Also this is not their native planet, their species is some kind of supernatural pixie-eating space alien thing, and the general fact that they're just space aliens. That's the wonderful thing about space aliens in fiction, you can attribute all sorts of "well, biology can be weird as gently caress." These are members of a space-faring race of horrible skullpeople who apparently thrive on hatefucking, pixie-dust, murder, and whatever. A race of which apparently includes an immortal green skullmonster who recently was summoned into existence via a cueballman in the center of a supernovae with the mass of two (2) galaxies. So you're really trying to apply your physics towards stuff that's entirely non-relevant. You're assuming that Cherubs are humans and their conditions, as well as their reasons for being on whatever planet they're on, mirror our own. poo poo they could be horrible molemen that lived entirely off geothermally-produced pixie dust until the sun slid its way over. Now, the black hole in Problem Sleuth is another thing altogether..... Zorak fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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Here are the answers to your questions about hot or dangerous materials being close to creatures and structures.random Formspring asker posted:Why don't the players get cancer from the radioactive imps? I'm asking for someone too wussy to ask himself for fear of you snarkily dodging the question. Please prove him right. Andrew Hussie posted:Radiation is harmless. Kind of like lava. Why doesn't Dave melt when he's hopping around on gears?
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fatherdog posted:This implies that their situation is unique to them, rather than being a cherub thing. Eh, "our" could also refer to their race as a whole. It could also indicate that normally a cherub's twinself is not a dickbag. Maybe uu is unique because he has such a divergent personality. also: ^^^^^^^ "green and red"? http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003252 what are the chances that this is the station they're in? I'm estimating 100%. Saradiart fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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