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myron cope posted:From the NRA thing before, That probably exists to protect against ex post facto prosecution, I'd imagine.
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darthbob88 posted:I've got an idea for a reality show about some Libtard or conservative who has to live on welfare/the streets long enough to either show that welfare queens aren't really a thing, or to bootstrap their way into making 30K a year from nothing. Could never be done, between the impracticalities of filming a "homeless person", and the fact that an actual temporarily embarrassed millionaire would have a head start compared to an actual lower-class individual, but it's an interesting idea. This probably isn't quite the right thread for it, but as long as we're talking horrible reality TV shows.... God do I hate Undercover Boss. If you're not familiar, the show takes one (usually white, usually male, usually with a good bootstraps story where they repeatedly thank their religion (usually protestant) for what they've earned) executive and has them go "undercover" in their own company, working alongside the lower class people who have the poo poo jobs. The boss will be exposed to gross, systemic injustices, like working mothers unable to spend time with their children or pay for their lunches while at the same time working 40+ hours a week at multiple jobs. The boss will then out themselves in a tearful confrontation that always works out the same way: Boss: Here's a promotion and $50,000 I found under the seat of my Porsche so your kid can go to college. Worker: Oh thank you for solving all the problems! Boss: No problem. Now, back to my mansion with a newfound appreciation of the people who work for me, where I'll enjoy the publicity the show got me and fix none of the systemic issues that were exposed. To add insult to injury in all this, the show premiered right after the financial collapse, when anger at high level executives with their "golden parachutes" was at an all time high. If there's a more obvious, ridiculous example of the 1% running propaganda to show how benevolent they are even while they destroy the mechanisms that may actually help people, I can't think of it. If there's any sort of societal restructuring as a result of the meltdown of the financial system (and that's a big "if") future people are going to look back on this show with absolute disgust. I hate it all the more because that last paragraph sounds completely  .
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Knowing the way 'reality' tv tends to go, it's probably even worse than it appears
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Boxman posted:Undercover Boss stuff The couple of times I've seen this show made me very uncomfortable. It made me daydream about being the CEO of one of these multimillion-dollar companies and actually changing the broken things that I saw in a meaningful way (haha shareholders wouldn't allow for any real change if it impacted the bottom line at all).
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Unzip and Attack posted:Do you guys have a good link for this? I'd like to read/share it. Read "Nickeled and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich instead.
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Boxman posted:This probably isn't quite the right thread for it, but as long as we're talking horrible reality TV shows.... As a matter of fact, there is a more obvious piece of propaganda, Secret Millionaire. A millionaire has to live in a low-income community for a week or so, making their way with none of the usual luxury, and seeing just how the little people really live, before outing themselves and doling out cash to worthy recipients. To make it more obvious just how propagandic this is, S3E1 in Britain starred a dude who'd made his bank investing in subprime markets and being a bastard at work.
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This just got posted from a dude I hung out with in high school:quote:Just realized that @KarlRove follows me. Honored to be among the 152,000. He's one of those dudes that's super into christianity, his dad was a multi-millionaire and he inherited the family business and now has tons of money just by not loving up his dad's accomplishments. He thinks he's the hardest worker alive and is just a general douche. To paraphrase something I heard somewhere on the forums, he started on 3rd base but thinks he hit a triple. Also hates poor people, especially those that work for him.
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Boxman posted:This probably isn't quite the right thread for it, but as long as we're talking horrible reality TV shows....
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Yea it's entirely 'woah, under class, you're mad about exploitation? Well what if we gave you a VACAAAAAATION?! (come right back to work at the same exploitative conditions)'. No tinfoil there it's just raw propaganda.
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White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide http://youtu.be/Do_w2V0-3D0
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AE-35 Unit posted:The couple of times I've seen this show made me very uncomfortable. It made me daydream about being the CEO of one of these multimillion-dollar companies and actually changing the broken things that I saw in a meaningful way (haha shareholders wouldn't allow for any real change if it impacted the bottom line at all). Yeah, I've watched it a few times, mostly about companies I'm interested in, and all it does is take a handful of employees and gloss over their complaints and hand them some cash money as some pseudo mea culpa. I can't quite put my finger on the sensation I feel, but it seems really sinister and awful.
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pillsburysoldier posted:White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide Top comment on that video is obviously white supremacist and pro-segregation. The video has also been downvoted tremendously. I'm hurting inside D:
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pillsburysoldier posted:White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide In a more fair world, over 90% of the people in the comment section would be on some kind of watch list.
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xwonderboyx posted:he started on 3rd base but thinks he hit a triple. This is great, I'll have to try to remember that.
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Are there so many horrible comments/downvotes because that video get posted on Freep or something? I really hope so 
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Loving Life Partner posted:Yeah, I've watched it a few times, mostly about companies I'm interested in, and all it does is take a handful of employees and gloss over their complaints and hand them some cash money as some pseudo mea culpa. I can't quite put my finger on the sensation I feel, but it seems really sinister and awful. It reminds me of how conservatives keep touting charity as an acceptable alternative to government programs for the poor and suffering. Charity is obviously insufficient for fixing systemic problems, incapable of solving problems on a large scale (i.e. economies of scale favor a single massive organization like the federal government instead of thousands of disparate charities), and likely to suffer and/or die out in cyclical downturns when charity would be most needed. People will contribute less during recessions and depressions, leaving charities with less money to work with even though more people would need help during a recession or depression than during a boom, whereas the federal government can provide counter-cyclical fiscal spending and programs to compensate. pillsburysoldier posted:White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide Holy gently caress me, criticizing racism must be the mating call of racists.
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Anubis posted:In a more fair world, over 90% of the people in the comment section would be on some kind of watch list. They are on a watch list. Obummer keeps his Black Kenyan Mafia watching them, making their lives harder while giving those ni- leeches a hand up. Reverse Racism 
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This makes it much more pleasant to view content on youtube. Now you only have to look at really bigoted comments if you consciously decide to do so.
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pillsburysoldier posted:White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide "Anti-racism is a code word for anti-white."  EDIT: on the bright side it's like a honey pot for racists?
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Reading those comments makes me want to be Anti-White.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Reading those comments makes me want to be Anti-White. I don't know about you, but I'm adopting so I don't perpetuate the race.
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Anubis posted:I don't know about you, but I'm adopting so I don't perpetuate the race. Miscegenation is also a fine option.
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 A Thing That Did Not Happen. Also, you'd think people who support the troops would know when troops left Iraq...
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I think I've gotten some of my relatives to stop posting that kind of thing on Facebook just by constantly commenting with Snopes.com links. The second result I got by searching for "Starbucks": http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/starbucks.asp
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 Me - What does this even mean? 14 hours ago · Like Crazy Person - 21st Century Eugenics, re-defining what natural causes of cancers are and rewriting history for the greater good for you to believe. Spraying the sky full of poo poo like barium, aluminum, lithium and stirring mercury mixed in food or just using planes to do it for them with the pesticides causing health risks and effects that you wont feel yet or may feel right now Take APPLES for instance.. They contain 42 known pesticide residues found by the USDA Pesticide Data Program. Out of the 42 pesticide residues, there are 7 known carcinogens, 19 suspected hormone disruptors, 10 neurotoxins, 6 developmental or reproductive toxins , and 17 honeybee toxins. And with mandated health care, they could inject us directly. Just look it up and shake your head and call it crazy.
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Guilty Spork posted:I think I've gotten some of my relatives to stop posting that kind of thing on Facebook just by constantly commenting with Snopes.com links.
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Guilty Spork posted:I think I've gotten some of my relatives to stop posting that kind of thing on Facebook just by constantly commenting with Snopes.com links. Kugyou no Tenshi posted:The thing I always love about using Snopes links to respond to poo poo like this is getting to point to the date when Snopes first reported on it. So not only do you get to point out that what was said was utterly false, you get to point out that (in this case) the bullshit is eight years old.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:The thing I always love about using Snopes links to respond to poo poo like this is getting to point to the date when Snopes first reported on it. So not only do you get to point out that what was said was utterly false, you get to point out that (in this case) the bullshit is eight years old. I've finally been removed from a few relatives' email forward lists by linking Snopes and/or other debunking sites and resorting to the "stupid or lying" dichotomy. I mean, it's not like this isn't the FIFTH time or whatever that I did 30 seconds of fact-checking and showed that your claims are bullshit, and linked fact-checking sites for you in my reply. So, y'know, which is it? Are you genuinely that stupid? Or are you intentionally lying to me? It's one or the other at this point. I think I did that for the first time with the "Proposed Constitutional Amendment" one, where they got the number of states needed to ratify a Constitutional Amendment wrong right off the bat. Edit: I also love that Snopes is so threatening to these imbeciles that there's been a sort of meta-forward going around about how Snopes is anti-Semitic or a tool of the leftists or whatnot. I've also seen references in emails that say "Snopes verifies this!" when it does nothing of the sort. Those make me laugh. "Yes, because this email that's full of lies and other false information SAYS that Snopes vetted it, it must be the case!" Holy gently caress, how these relatives haven't lost every cent of their money to con men I'll never know. CarterUSM fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jun 22, 2012 |
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:
I'm pretty sure that's fake, too, but can we agree to not buy Starbucks anyways because the coffee is terrible? Every Starbucks I've ever been to over-roasts or burns the coffee beans, making the coffee terrible, and I say that as someone who loves espresso and other dark roast coffee. ultimateforce posted:
The gently caress? That's even more extreme and crazier than the "death panels" bullshit from right-wingers. Do you know this crazy person well or are they just some weirdo on the internet you've never met?
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My Facebook feed just gets more silly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9dwP-fV3o since he calls himself Christian, I thought I'd follow up with this: http://www.openbible.info/topics/giving_to_the_needy Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 22, 2012 |
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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pillsburysoldier posted:White people getting mad at a new 'white guilt' vide I trolled the comments for a few minutes, but what was worst was how every racist on there assumed I'm not white just for supporting the video's claims. Man, depressing.
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How are u posted:I trolled the comments for a few minutes, but what was worst was how every racist on there assumed I'm not white just for supporting the video's claims. Ha, I figured that was someone from this thread. Everyone in the comments is convinced I'm Jewish because I don't agree with them.  It must be such an easy, mindless life to be a horrible racist. If someone doesn't agree with you, it's just because their Jew gland is acting up.
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They were labeling me a stupid, ignorant, ungrateful, un-evolved "negro", so I guess I came across as more uppity than you did. e: I really hate racists. Now I've got a glum feeling that only bourbon can fix. This is why you don't touch the poop.
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Someone keeps imploring me to look up the secret true history of slavery. Turns out blacks and jews are the REAL racists, as always.
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Loving Life Partner posted:Someone keeps imploring me to look up the secret true history of slavery. Did you know that native Africans were sometimes involved in the initial slave collecting? You see, this completely excuses the white mans part in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade because
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How are u posted:I trolled the comments for a few minutes, but what was worst was how every racist on there assumed I'm not white just for supporting the video's claims.
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Loving Life Partner posted:Someone keeps imploring me to look up the secret true history of slavery. "All of the slaves? They used to be white, but the Africans dyed them before selling them. It's true, the jews taught them how." /   
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I'm really hoping a high school friend of mine, someone who should know better, acknowledges the disconnect between the idea that it's the government's job to protect liberties and that the more the government gets involved in our lives, the worse it gets. He's smart, he should know better, but he's just gone on a rant about personal responsibility after I saw him post links from reason.com and I said "those look a little biased."
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Aeka 2.0 posted:My Facebook feed just gets more silly: Was he saying basic things as food/shelter aren't rights? Should I agree with him that those are bad things? Or that helmet laws are bad? Also socialized medicine works just fine, costs less, and covers everybody. Everything about this video is wrong.
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