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jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Twilight was Mormon and virginal.

Then unhinged lunatic fans started writing fanfic.

One of them wrote a really over the top BDSM fanfic about ball gargling and butthole licking.

The publisher replaced the names Edward and Bella and sold it as a new property.

CRAZY CAT LADY EROTIC SLASH FICTION ABOUT TWILIGHT IS THE #1 NYT BESTSELLER

I am not making a word of this up.

You forgot to mention it selling faster than Harry Potter and that the author originally wrote under the name Snowqueens Icedragon.

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whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Ambiguatron posted:

Whoa, hold on. I've been avoiding this twilight thing for years. No one said anything about butthole licking.

That's because Stephenie Meyer's sexual imagination got stuck at thirteen years old. This is the fanfic.

e: I take way too loving long to respond to things.

I for one await the inevitable bestselling 50 Shades of Grey fanfic.

e2: The original title of the fanfic was Masters of the Universe? For gently caress's sake.

whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jun 26, 2012

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20
I hate the world and everyone in it.

Lolitas Alright!
Sep 15, 2007

This is your friend.
She fights for your freedom.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Twilight was Mormon and virginal.

Then unhinged lunatic fans started writing fanfic.

One of them wrote a really over the top BDSM fanfic about ball gargling and butthole licking.

The publisher replaced the names Edward and Bella and sold it as a new property.

CRAZY CAT LADY EROTIC SLASH FICTION ABOUT TWILIGHT IS THE #1 NYT BESTSELLER

I am not making a word of this up.

You forgot the part where the boring chick signs a consent form that allows Foot Face to fist her butthole whenever he feels like.

I'm waiting for Tara Gillesbie to get a movie deal for "My Immortal".

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
Are you a writer Ambigutaron?

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

whowhatwhere posted:

I for one await the inevitable bestselling 50 Shades of Grey fanfic.

It's just masturbating crazy cat ladies.

All the way down.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

Lolitas Alright! posted:

You forgot the part where the boring chick signs a consent form that allows Foot Face to fist her butthole whenever he feels like.

I'm waiting for Tara Gillesbie to get a movie deal for "My Immortal".

God drat it, I pretty much have to read this now. There's seriously a fisting contract?

run DNC posted:

Are you a writer Ambigutaron?

I have been known to apply myself to the craft from time to time.

I regret all the rear end play I haven't been writing, if the market is into that.

Thulsa Doom fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jun 26, 2012

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Right. ADWD - At least it's not 50 Shades of Grey [compare/contrast thread] is a go.

I look forward to thinking that GRRM's sex scenes are comparatively well-written :gonk:

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

whowhatwhere posted:

Right. ADWD - At least it's not 50 Shades of Grey [compare/contrast thread] is a go.

I look forward to thinking that GRRM's sex scenes are comparatively well-written :gonk:

I think, in the infamous Myrish Swamo scene, GRRM contemplated fisting and backed off. Cersei was only a pinky and thumb away. I could practically feel his need to write Cersei fisting another woman coming through the urgency in the prose.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
How to be a successful writer in 2012:

1. Write about a boring girl getting her butthole worked over like a stuck transmission by a wealthy undead murderer.

2. Drink champagne out of your recently purchased diamond-encrusted rhino horn.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20
I always wanted to get a story in Weird Tales, but they rejected all my work and now they're a weird e-thing that doesn't take submissions.

I should probably pull an embarassing fanfic out of my files, do a find and replace, and ship it off to Dell.

Wouldn't a vampire doctor be violating the hypocratic oath?

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

Bonus.
Not if he was a veterinarian ?? I don't know what the context is actually.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Oh for...the story starts with Anastasia getting forced into interviewing “some mega-industrialist tycoon I’ve never heard of” because her roomate gets sick? Really?

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20
So the way I understand it, Twilight is vampires with all of the pathos and drama stripped from the concept. This published fanfic is a refinement of that, so the vampire is an ambulatory thunder cock with billions of dollars and no problems. How many iterations do we have to go through before "Clit: A Novel" which consists of nothing but ephemisms for genitalia and fangs hits number one on the best seller list?

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Ambiguatron posted:

So the way I understand it, Twilight is vampires with all of the pathos and drama stripped from the concept. This published fanfic is a refinement of that, so the vampire is an ambulatory thunder cock with billions of dollars and no problems. How many iterations do we have to go through before "Clit: A Novel" which consists of nothing but ephemisms for genitalia and fangs hits number one on the best seller list?

True Blood is already a hit HBO show, brah.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Ambiguatron posted:

So the way I understand it, Twilight is vampires with all of the pathos and drama stripped from the concept. This published fanfic is a refinement of that, so the vampire is an ambulatory thunder cock with billions of dollars and no problems. How many iterations do we have to go through before "Clit: A Novel" which consists of nothing but ephemisms for genitalia and fangs hits number one on the best seller list?

To be fair, the hack job turning this from a fanfic into an original trilogy did remove the vampirism thing.

As for Twilight's vampirism: in the hands of a good author I could see how leaving immortality as the only curse of the vampire could be an interesting way of exploring the subject, but as it is vampirism's just kinda awesome, aside from sparkling.

quote:

I’ve never been comfortable with one-on-one interviews, preferring the anonymity of a group discussion where I can sit inconspicuously at the back of the room. To be honest, I prefer my own company, reading a classic British novel, curled up in a chair in the campus library. Not sitting twitching nervously in a colossal glass and stone edifice.

I'm just like you, reader! Someone who likes classic British novels! And that last sentence. Just...wow. This is going to be amazing.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

whowhatwhere posted:

To be fair, the hack job turning this from a fanfic into an original trilogy did remove the vampirism thing.

As for Twilight's vampirism: in the hands of a good author I could see how leaving immortality as the only curse of the vampire could be an interesting way of exploring the subject, but as it is vampirism's just kinda awesome, aside from sparkling.


I'm just like you, reader! Someone who likes classic British novels! And that last sentence. Just...wow. This is going to be amazing.

So it'll just be genitals, then.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

To be fair, there's plenty of lip-biting and blushing as well. Many full paragraphs on those single topics throughout the book, actually. It's like Gurm and his food/poo poo descriptions.

Lolitas Alright!
Sep 15, 2007

This is your friend.
She fights for your freedom.

Ambiguatron posted:

God drat it, I pretty much have to read this now. There's seriously a fisting contract?


Oh, it's more than just fisting.

The Worst Book Ever posted:

APPENDIX 2
Hard Limits
No acts involving fire play
No acts involving urination or defecation and the products thereof
No acts involving needles, knives, cutting, piercing, or blood
No acts involving gynecological medical instruments
No acts involving children or animals
No acts that will leave any permanent marks on the skin
No acts involving breath control.
No activity that involves the direct contact of electric current (whether alternating or direct), fire or flames to the body.

APPENDIX 3
Soft Limits
To be discussed and agreed between both parties:

Which of the following sexual acts are acceptable to the Submissive?
• Masturbation
• Fellatio
• Cunnilingus
• Vaginal intercourse
• Vaginal fisting
• Anal intercourse
• Anal fisting

Is swallowing semen acceptable to the Submissive?

Is the use of sex toys acceptable to the Submissive?
• Vibrators
• Dildos
• Butt Plugs
• Other

Is Bondage acceptable to the Submissive?
• Hands in front
• Hands behind back
• Ankles
• Knees
• Elbows
• Wrists to ankles
• Spreader bars
• Tied to furniture
• Blindfolding
• Gagging
• Bondage with Rope
• Bondage with Tape
• Bondage with leather cuffs
• Suspension
• Bondage with handcuffs/metal restraints

What is the Submissive’s general attitude about receiving pain? Where 1 is likes intensely and 5 is dislikes intensely: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 5

How much pain does the submissive want to receive? Where 1 is none and 5 is severe: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 5

Which of the following types of pain/punishment/discipline are acceptable to the Submissive?
• Spanking
• Paddling
• Whipping
• Caning
• Biting
• Nipple clamps
• Genital clamps
• Ice
• Hot wax
• Other types/methods of pain


Also, the main characters are named Christian Grey and Anastasia Rose Steele. They sound like she found a "lovely Romance Novel Character Name" generator online and used it.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Don't spoil it for me, but I hope they both had lawyers present for this most erotic of contracts :allears:

kcroy
May 30, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Twilight was Mormon and virginal.

Then unhinged lunatic fans started writing fanfic.

One of them wrote a really over the top BDSM fanfic about ball gargling and butthole licking.

The publisher replaced the names Edward and Bella and sold it as a new property.

CRAZY CAT LADY EROTIC SLASH FICTION ABOUT TWILIGHT IS THE #1 NYT BESTSELLER

I am not making a word of this up.

This is awesome beyond awesome. I love loving america. Number one country america! Ichiban bitches!

And you if you think Phoenix is bad, you have missed out on some other wonderful places Arizona has to offer!

Yuma is like phoenix, but without the "culture"!

Oh and Tuba City, home to among other things Uranium disposal structures!



If you love looking at these crazy disposal cells as much as I do, you might want to check out the Center for Land Use Interpretation building in LA! (http://clui.org/ludb)

Lolitas Alright! posted:

Oh, it's more than just fisting.



Also, the main characters are named Christian Grey and Anastasia Rose Steele. They sound like she found a "lovely Romance Novel Character Name" generator online and used it.

uhm but just think, she could hyphenate her last name after the marriage to "Steele-Grey"! And they could name their first born something like... Dusty or uh.. Kirin! Just the thought makes me want to buy some bon-bons and get reading!

edit:

whowhatwhere posted:

Don't spoil it for me, but I hope they both had lawyers present for this most erotic of contracts :allears:

Havent read this , but you can download a much better version of a BDSM checklist here: http://www.cepemo.com/checklist.html If you ask nicely, I'll upload my excel spreadsheet version!

edit:

bigmcgaffney posted:

Haha I forgot I wrote WoT/GoT crossover erotica. I think I've done Malazan, Dan Brown, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and of course my childgoon memories.

Remember when the Bad Thread went positive for like a week at some mods request?
yes, I got banned and lost my tag :(

kcroy fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jun 26, 2012

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Washington State University should sue the author for libelous description of its English program. No way it'd produce someone that...Anastasia Rose Steele.

Lolitas Alright!
Sep 15, 2007

This is your friend.
She fights for your freedom.

whowhatwhere posted:

Washington State University should sue the author for libelous description of its English program. No way it'd produce someone that...Anastasia Rose Steele.

She seriously has no idea what she wants to do with her life after college, other than continue to mooch off of her trust-fund-baby best friend/probably lesbian lover with all the subtext in it.

But then she gets swept away by Christian "I Have Mommy Issues" Grey. :allears:

298298
Aug 14, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Twilight is actually pretty good reading if you enjoy absolute poo poo.

And if you're in ADWD threads you probably do.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


That's a really boring BDSM list, I expected something genuinely perverse from Christian Grey, psychobillionaire extraordinaire, but this is just boring.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Right, I'm now convinced that Christian Grey is a Left Behind-style Antichrist/Man of Sin seeking to rule the world as a god. Dude's just too perfect in every way for him not to be. My interest in the series is now much, much higher as Anastasia Steele is just another person put under his spell as he seeks to deify himself.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

298298 posted:

Twilight is actually pretty good reading if you enjoy absolute poo poo.

And if you're in ADWD threads you probably do.

That's hardly fair. As disappointing as the last two novels were, ASOIAF is still leagues above Twilight. The "lovely" equivalent of GRRM is RA Salvatore or something.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Nah, I might be misremembering what I read 12 years ago or so, but his sexual politics are very, very muted compared to Twilight. I'd go for, say, Terry Goodkind.

Also, ASOIAF:

:allears:

thornghost
Oct 11, 2010

I have a picture of me with GRRM. He looks less than enthused.

whowhatwhere posted:

Also, ASOIAF:

:allears:

Is that...is that a real quote from ASOIAF? I don't recognize it, but it's been years since I've read a book that Robb was alive in.

Also, re: DragonCon. I always have a drat good time there and I've been going practically every year since I graduated high school, which is more than a decade ago.

Related, if you search on youtube for "george rr martin wildcards", one of the top results is me drunkenly rambling late one night at DragonCon about how my "costume" was a time displaced member of the Night's Watch. This was quite impromptu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go_rgg4-R8w

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Nice soul patch.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

So when did this 50 Shades of Grey poo poo kick off?

I've just realised what a few girls on my Facebook feed have been on about for the last couple of weeks. I thought they were watching a new ITV period drama starring some Christian Grey or something.

thornghost
Oct 11, 2010

I have a picture of me with GRRM. He looks less than enthused.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Nice soul patch.

Oh yes, the heady days of 2009 when one could wear a soul patch with pride.

I've since got a fedora and started swilling gin and learned a little bit of humility. I only leave the house once a month to go to my 50 Shades of Grey book group at Barnes and Noble. Nobody else ever shows up, so I usually just sit by myself and refresh The Bad Thread over and over until the store closes.

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k
Okay, I've heard of fanfiction being published as actual literature or other forms of media (see: Wicked, Star Wars EU, extensions of Cthulhu mythos etc.) but I have never loving thought in my entire life a slash fic would become an NYT best seller.
Or wait, is slash fiction when when it's two dudes or two girls getting it on or does slash just mean porn in general? Whenever someone says slash, I think James Kirk and Spock.

I've got the best idea now: PUBLISHED ASOIAF SLASH. Just need to change the names of Renly and Loras to Johnathan and Fabio and we're all set for the money train!

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Lolitas Alright! posted:

I'm reading the first one and doing an MST3K thing of it because my friend's mom insisted I do so. I just hit Chapter Seven and it's... a thing.

I can honestly say it is the worst piece of published literature I have ever read, and I read "Twilight". What makes it better is that "50 Shades of Grey" was literally a Twilight BDSM fanfic written by EL James under the pen name "Icequeens Snowdragon". 80% of the original fanfic is still intact in the published text... she honestly just went through and did Find/Replace on the names, and it's pretty obvious if you know even a tiny bit about "Twilight".

There is literally nothing redeemable about that book, absolutely nothing.
Let's write a 400 page ASOIAF fanfic that is somehow more disturbingly sexual than the source material, then find & replace the names and throw it up on Amazon as an eBook. We can call it "The Queen of Wyrms" and then have a bunch of really awful titillating wyrm=cock puns.

We'll be rich! Rich as Lannisters!

unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jun 26, 2012

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

Lolitas Alright! posted:

Oh, it's more than just fisting.



Also, the main characters are named Christian Grey and Anastasia Rose Steele. They sound like she found a "lovely Romance Novel Character Name" generator online and used it.

The actual text of the contract is in the book?

How in the incandescent gently caress did this get published?

SpaceMost posted:

Let's write a 400 page ASOIAF fanfic that is somehow more disturbingly sexual than the source material, then find & replace the names and throw it up on Amazon as an eBook. We can call it "The Queen of Wyrms" and then have a bunch of really awful titillating wyrm=cock puns.

We'll be rich! Rich as Lannisters!

I'm in.

Oh my God, Fifty Shades of Grey was published by Vintage. The same imprint that published American Psycho.

What the gently caress.

Thulsa Doom fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jun 26, 2012

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k
Edit: ^^^ maybe HBO's right. Maybe people do love porn more than actual quality. Either way, I need to get in on this cash-machine this instant.

First we need to find that guy who wrote the Winnie the Pooh fic. That guy knew what he was doing.

Contra Calculus fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jun 26, 2012

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Contra Calculus posted:

Okay, I've heard of fanfiction being published as actual literature or other forms of media (see: Wicked, Star Wars EU, extensions of Cthulhu mythos etc.)

Fanfic is a hazy line. Wicked absolutely is, it turns the Wicked Witch into a Mary Sue and everything. 50 Shades began as such, so I feel comfortable lumping it into the category as well. Licensed fiction is a whole nother ballgame; in some ways, it's like TV writing, with a producer who accepts your pitch and works it out with you until it doesn't suck as bad anymore.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20
It's an arbitrary line. Huge swathes of the media we consume are "fanfiction". The term has a stigma attached because the vast majority of it is terrible, but the vast majority of everything is terrible.

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k
Wait, is Cthulhu slash a thing? I will make it a thing and I will make it big as R.H. Gridgemeier for my pen name.

"And so Dyer and Pabody began shoving The Elder Thing's tentacles up their asses as they saw Azathoth fisting Dagon and Mother Hydra."

poo poo, this practically writes itself. See you guys. I'm off to be a best selling author!

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Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I wonder about that, actually; I know Lovecraft himself was cool with people writing in his mythos, but I somehow doubt whomever holds the rights at this point is quite as benevolent. Then again, given the plush Cthulhu hanging in my living room, perhaps they're overly amicable to monetary enterprises.

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