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RuanGacho posted:Some of the posts in this thread are kind of boggling to me and smell of the same kind of attitudes hipsters get when something has become too mainstream. I don't really agree with a lot of the opinions posted in the last few pages, but this is an awfully defensive attitude about something that doesn't really matter if you ask me. Not liking Act 6 is a valid and understandable opinion, even if I like it myself.
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Thundarr posted:Also, it looks like he already has his roboleg prepared for when cuts off his own. I wonder what headcanon voice UU/uu are gonna get assigned; I hope uu ends up sounding like Wrath from the first fullmetal alchemist anime.
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Jun 27, 2012 03:25
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I feel like half of this thread has turned into uu and the other half into UU. It's great.
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I guess I wasn't thinking very clearly this morning, because I totally forgot that Roxy's unpowered Window is right above where Dream Roxy is floating. So DreamRoxy has an easy way to get back to her house, at least until Dirk plugs that window in. (The other kids and trolls could conceivably do the same, but somehow I doubt they will) Is it terrible that I kinda want Meenah to try to use the window to come back to "life" and for her to dissolve like here?
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Jun 27, 2012 03:35
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Plom Bar posted:It was implied by the lighthouse puzzle at the beginning of 6.3 that Jane's dreamself survived somehow, possibly by doing some Lifey Thing. There are plenty of things hanging around to interact with Roxy's corpse, maybe one of them will try to bite her mouth and that will count as a kiss. Only works when a player does it (pretty sure).
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creationist believer posted:I feel like half of this thread has turned into uu and the other half into UU. It's great. those who became Roxy were all banned for drunkposting
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For some reason today's update didn't show up as new when I went to MSPA so I didn't realize anything had happened for the longest time and was really confused about what everyone was discussing! These deaths don't surprise or move me much. Big twists and surprises and revivals and afterlifes and so on and so forth have become so common that I didn't raise an eyebrow at Roxy dying besides "I guess this might be her alternate way into the Medium", and Jane's death felt downright inevitable. Hussie deserves credit for continuing to find novel ways to deliver story (uu's evil little monologue and goofy fan-art helped spice these events up), but somehow the actual content still feels like we're grinding through necessary busywork. It's a strange feeling to see major characters get killed and still want to say "Yeah, yeah, we know, let's keep it moving."
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Jun 27, 2012 04:12
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snucks posted:i hope uu makes prostheses as well as he makes fanart.
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Jun 27, 2012 04:52
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I actually spent the past few days re-reading Act 6, and while I'll save most of my comments for a more appropriate time, what I got from it most relevantly is that I'm not at all scared for Jane's well-being. She's not only got the lifey thing, but she was basically guaranteed to outlive Dirk and Roxy. Sure, that may have meant their dream selves, but it works just as well for our purposes. That being said, Roxy pretty much has to survive this, because she's by far the most interesting and entertaining character that's been introduced this entire act. The only way I'd be cool with this is if she joined Vriska's Coalition to gently caress poo poo Up. Actually, I think that would be my preferred direction for the story to go either way.Dolash posted:For some reason today's update didn't show up as new when I went to MSPA so I didn't realize anything had happened for the longest time and was really confused about what everyone was discussing! Same here. I probably need an update notifier that isn't this very thread. loquacius posted:Bye bye Li'l Sebastian Let's face it. He was doomed from the moment he received that name.
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Really I think it bears repeating that 16-year-olds are not exactly paragons of wisdom and critical thinking. The same could be said of the B1 kids, sure, but at least in their case they didn't have any real relationship hangups/hormones going on to cloud their judgment, which is why I'm inclined to give the B2 ones a pass. Then again, I was also one of the few Harry Potter fans who didn't want to outright strangle the protagonist by the end of book five so v v
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Jun 27, 2012 06:34
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Hrm, the individual pages for the multi-kid update just showed up on the sidebar. There were more updates than could fit in the sidebar -- I guess that's why he hid them all away like that.
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Jun 27, 2012 07:19
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God dammit that's why my phone's notifier went off. Now I have update blueballs. I think I need to go to sleep now.
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Jun 27, 2012 07:21
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It looks like Roxy is pretty dead.
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Welp, I guess none of the B2 kids are going god-tier. I thought for sure that Jane was going to at one point. 
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Jun 27, 2012 08:10
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And there go the lanterns.
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drat, Dirk has to do everything, doesn't he? Set up the client/server connections, try and bail everyone out of jams, live...
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Jun 27, 2012 08:15
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It looks like they're all kind of dead. Except Jake.
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Dirk's light still flickers, and Jane's should light up again as per the Myststuck tablets.Bobulus posted:I guess I wasn't thinking very clearly this morning, because I totally forgot that Roxy's unpowered Window is right above where Dream Roxy is floating. So DreamRoxy has an easy way to get back to her house, at least until Dirk plugs that window in. If that happens will Roxy kiss Roxy?
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Dolash posted:Hussie deserves credit for continuing to find novel ways to deliver story (uu's evil little monologue and goofy fan-art helped spice these events up), but somehow the actual content still feels like we're grinding through necessary busywork. It's a strange feeling to see major characters get killed and still want to say "Yeah, yeah, we know, let's keep it moving." Haha, you know? I totally agree with you on this. It's why everyone getting shocked by these deaths kinda puzzles me. I mean, we already knew they would all lose their dream selves, and Jane too now, according to this last update. It's just as obvious none of them are permanently dead, that would be really stupid and poor storytelling (why spend all that time developing characters that get killed off halfway through their arc?) And he knows we know all this, which is why he clumped them all together in one big update (possibly so what impact is lost due to predictability is made up for by magnitude), and why he had uu narrate it - so that something more useful is conveyed, that is, uu's characterization. Honestly, the deaths really were a kind of busywork. Roxy's surprised me, but that's just me, I guess I wasn't expecting it happening like that. But Seb was the real tragedy of that update. Poor Seb. Now both bunnies are gone... wait, what if Liv was the empty Juju, and thus always doomed, meaning Seb is destined for one of the uU boxes? Yay he might live! Everything will work out after all!  I still think they're going to reach god tier somehow, but it will take more shenanigans than usual. If not then, eh, they're all probably okay, and the Scratch kids will be useful nonetheless. Hey, I wonder what Hope does. ^^^^^ I was pretty sure those tablets were referring to Jane's dreamself being shanked by Jack, and then returning to life with the lifey thing. I guess it could relate to both, but I somehow doubt Jane is absolutely invincible. Being impaled with the Red Miles is probably a very different thing than being stabbed in the gut. Starmaker fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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My take is that Jane real body will die and her dreamself will take over. Even if Dirk managed to kiss Jane, where would she go? The teleporters are now blocked. There's not much else for her to do than to die again, which would be permanent if she died again. It's much better that her real body die on Derse, then the White Queen wakes up her dreamself. She's in safe territory at Prospit.
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closeted republican posted:My take is that Jane real body will die and her dreamself will take over. Even if Dirk managed to kiss Jane, where would she go? The teleporters are now blocked. There's not much else for her to do than to die again, which would be permanent if she died again. It's much better that her real body die on Derse, then the White Queen wakes up her dreamself. She's in safe territory at Prospit.
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Plom Bar posted:The dreamself doesn't pick up exactly where the waking self left off, it just wakes up wherever it was on Prospit/Derse/The Battlefield/wherever. The kiss is still necessary to make that happen. Ah damnit I forgot about that. Reading your post made me remember when Sollux was revived. Oh well.
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King of Solomon posted:Only works when a player does it (pretty sure). The kiss has to be from royalty; the players are just honourary royalty of their moons. So one of the Queens (or Meenah) could definitely revive the players.
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Starmaker posted:Haha, you know? I totally agree with you on this. It's why everyone getting shocked by these deaths kinda puzzles me. I mean, we already knew they would all lose their dream selves, and Jane too now, according to this last update. It's just as obvious none of them are permanently dead, that would be really stupid and poor storytelling (why spend all that time developing characters that get killed off halfway through their arc?) I think in the case of myself(and maybe others), the surprise was more from the fact that it looked a hell of a lot more like Dirk's dreamself was going to bite it here. (Being stuck around two different friends in danger who he needed to save.) And then he ended up being the only one that lived. Not to mention I think in the case of Roxy, people assumed that her dreamself would be the one to die, given fitting into the pattern of the other kids, and especially given her real self wasn't even in the Medium yet. Additionally, I think some of us settled into the notion that Jane would keep both of her selves alive and not just one, following the implication from the prophecy about her lantern being the only one lit while the others fade. I figure the Lifey Thing may make that still happen, however. Although, if you just mean all the people going crazy thinking all the characters are now perma-dead, then.. I dunno, I guess half of it may be people who are genuinely easily confused by this comic(there are a lot of people like that!) and the other half are trolling.
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for people who don't want to play myststuck again specifically for this:quote:Our lights of Heart and Void will each follow in time, long after our extinction. One will be extinguished, and then another, leaving only Life as the guiding light. But they should remain long enough to illuminate the Maid’s path, and assist her with the housekeeping we have left behind. snucks fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Midnight Raider posted:I think in the case of myself(and maybe others), the surprise was more from the fact that it looked a hell of a lot more like Dirk's dreamself was going to bite it here. (Being stuck around two different friends in danger who he needed to save.) And then he ended up being the only one that lived. Jake didn't die though? Starmaker posted:^^^^^ Like Midnight Raider said; the tablets included a prophecy that Dirk's and Roxy's lights would go out but Jane's would stay lit.
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snucks posted:for people who don't want to play myststuck again specifically for this: But Jake's light went out before Jane entered her session. And he wasn't dead. So the lights, in my mind, were implied to be the death of dreamselves. So the prophecy can come true and all four kids can live, but their god tier chances are greatly reduced.
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I wonder if PM can revive a kid/dreamself? She technically is royalty. Are carapaces even capable of kissing? Or do they have some other way to okay I won't go down this path any further.
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Lord of Laughton posted:Are carapaces even capable of kissing? Canon Carapace Kisses: Spades Slick and Snowman were capable of hatesnogging, at the very least.
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creationist believer posted:I feel like half of this thread has turned into uu and the other half into UU. It's great. That's the thing about the cherubs. They were already here.
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What I find is blowing my mind is how much things have turned agianst the kids. I mean, not too long ago Dirk was offing Derse's agents and Jane was solving ancient enigmas left and right. DD really upped the ante with the Miles.
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So I'm guessing if Roxy enters the medium through a revived dreamself, those carapace friends of hers are all done for, eh? She probably won't have time to mourn, which is a pity since that was an interesting little thread. I think part of what may have made these two deaths underwhelming (among other factors) is that the red miles killing them feels a tad arbitrary. It could've just as easily not killed them and just have been something scary going on around them, or killed some other characters whose deaths would've been less narratively convenient. They died from it just because hey, the story needs a few particular deaths to move forward, and death by red miles will do. It could've just as easily been a roof collapse. These updates still had a fun framing device that helped characterize uu, like Starmaker said, but if anything this just seemed to suggest that even Hussie knows these deaths aren't that shocking.
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The next update can only be one of these things: -uu's official introduction -Checking in on Jack's progress re: escaping the Prospitian prison -Calliope derping around some more -Checking in on John and Jade And the one thing it definitely will NOT be is the return to Land Of Rambling And Exposition via Jake, dreamRoxy, or injakesheadDirk because Hussie not-so-secretly hates us all. edit: Also, what's with all the PI avatars? What did I miss?
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Plom Bar posted:edit: Also, what's with all the PI avatars? What did I miss? Somebody gave many people them a couple pages ago, don't know why.
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Plom Bar posted:The next update can only be one of these things: You forgot the obvious. The next page posted will be that exact shot of the lanterns with green curtains closing around it.
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So do we know why today's update has volume control on it?
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YF-23 posted:So do we know why today's update has volume control on it? I don't see a volume control? But my guess is the answer would be that Hussie clearly has a standard wrapper for his flash animations that includes the pause/start over button and a volume control. Maybe he forgot to remove the volume control since this doesn't need one. (And maybe he uploaded a fixed version later which I'm seeing, cause I see no volume control.)
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Well I see it: I guess it might be my browser (I'm using Opera)? Other not-sound flashes don't have it though.
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Dolash posted:So I'm guessing if Roxy enters the medium through a revived dreamself, those carapace friends of hers are all done for, eh? She probably won't have time to mourn, which is a pity since that was an interesting little thread. If she enters that way, I'm pretty sure her planet won't appear, which we know is supposed to happen based on the LOCAH flash.
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