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trex eaterofcadrs posted:lol if you are not separating each disk as a separate lun our current prod server is setup properly, but vmware has convinced our server janitors that sql server will run just fine on vmware no matter how they set it up. i dont think they understand that it would require we guarantee 100% of the resources configured for the sql vms (preferably 100% of host resources) or that those vmware docs/sales guys are assuming we understand that when they say its ok to use vmware disks for sql they mean on separate luns, not one big fat shared one. its gonna be a nightmare.
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Jun 26, 2012 19:27
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Shaggar posted:its gonna be a nightmare. ur luns. show them to me
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Jun 26, 2012 19:30
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Shaggar posted:our current prod server is setup properly, but vmware has convinced our server janitors that sql server will run just fine on vmware no matter how they set it up. it's ok to give 100% of a host to a single vm, vmotion alone makes that worth it but if they're talking about putting sql server data and log disks on vmdks, gently caress no, use rdms
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Jun 26, 2012 19:38
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yeah im fine w/ dedicating 100% of host resources to a single vm and then doing HA w/ an identical other vm host. Essentially making the 2 physical hosts into 1 virtual host. thats the right way to do it. but whats gonna happen is they're gonna kinda maybe start out that way. the disks are deffo gonna be vmdk. and then they're gonna have a need for a few more servers for something else and our sql server doesn't neeed all those resources so they'll throw some vms on there with the sql server and screw up the resource management and the disk i/o will go to poo poo
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Jun 26, 2012 19:55
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tef posted:PROLOG Or Factor, a language only counts as weird if you can run it backwards.
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Jun 26, 2012 20:02
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:each sql server instance should have 7-9 luns, fiber as fast as possible, and the logs should be raid 1 ITYM RAID 10
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Jun 26, 2012 20:03
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Sulk posted:ruby is a somewhat strange language. i don't know what to think of rails gooby on rails also i had to install mssql for some eve online thing i was working on and it took me 8 hours to get the drat thing actually installed and working jesus what the gently caress microsoft your installer doesn't even work and somehow broke my registry and removed system view permissions on everything having to do with SQL server what the gently caress
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Jun 26, 2012 20:05
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and this is why you only ever run windows in a vm
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Jun 26, 2012 20:28
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Ruby, Haskell and Prolog are out because I've already had to learn them. I'm checking out F# tho.
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Jun 26, 2012 22:40
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ZShakespeare posted:Ruby, Haskell and Prolog are out because I've already had to learn them. I'm checking out F# tho. I learned all 3 of those in a class did you go to UA or was it just another place had the same class
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Jun 26, 2012 23:02
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graph posted:ur luns. show them to me lol
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Jun 26, 2012 23:18
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Zombywuf posted:ITYM RAID 10 at the san level raid 1 is basically raid 1+0 since you just allocate logically what u need and don't worry about disk layout, unless you have a scrub san
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Jun 26, 2012 23:23
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ZShakespeare posted:Ruby, Haskell and Prolog are out because I've already had to learn them. I'm checking out F# tho. In that case clojure might be interesting too.
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Jun 26, 2012 23:24
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Ronald Raiden posted:I learned all 3 of those in a class did you go to UA or was it just another place had the same class SFU. It's a comparative PL class. Basically we learn poo poo other than Java/C# in the hopes that maybe lessons learned from non–imperative languages will make us better coders. Also poo poo like like differences between static/dynamic typing and binding and how you can compile python code into whatever other lower level language you want and have it run pretty much as fast.
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Jun 27, 2012 00:37
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i took that class like 6 years ago
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Jun 27, 2012 00:39
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ZShakespeare posted:SFU. It's a comparative PL class. Basically we learn poo poo other than Java/C# in the hopes that maybe lessons learned from non–imperative languages will make us better coders. Also poo poo like like differences between static/dynamic typing and binding and how you can compile python code into whatever other lower level language you want and have it run pretty much as fast. noice
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Jun 27, 2012 00:44
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ZShakespeare posted:SFU. It's a comparative PL class. Basically we learn poo poo other than Java/C# in the hopes that maybe lessons learned from non–imperative languages will make us better coders. Also poo poo like like differences between static/dynamic typing and binding and how you can compile python code into whatever other lower level language you want and have it run pretty much as fast. Yea, same. It was also called comparative programming at UofAz, really fun class.
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Jun 27, 2012 01:49
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lol that class at SFU uses learn you a haskell now
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Jun 27, 2012 01:53
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Sulk posted:ruby is a somewhat strange language. i don't know what to think of rails what do you find strange about it
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Jun 27, 2012 02:02
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fidel sarcastro posted:what do you find strange about it animu
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Jun 27, 2012 02:06
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fidel sarcastro posted:what do you find strange about it net/http
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Jun 27, 2012 02:33
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tef posted:net/http such an amazing piece of poo poo, ruby why
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Jun 27, 2012 02:34
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tef posted:Clojure, Erlang are good choices for weirdness. And both have interesting approaches to think like concurrency / state handling and discrepancies. If these are things that are interesting to you, I would pick between them based on whether you prefer to write server software or more desktop-like applications. Erlang's model is well-adapted to servers, and when you expect to have many of them and do some potential distribution or handle hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands of clients, it's a good language to work with. It abstracts away a lot of hardware concerns and lets you focus on things a step higher when it comes to concurrency and parallelism. Clojure, as far as I know, takes an approach where it's about running parallel/concurrent stuff on a single machine, and dealing well with multicore. You'll have to tackle similar issues, but with a higher focus on sharing/handling different versions of data, whereas Erlang would be a lot about handling inevitable failures and discrepancies of distributed poo poo. Then there's Go, but I never looked into it enough.
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Jun 27, 2012 02:44
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clojure is pretty cool and if you start learning it you can use lighttable which looks pretty interesting
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Jun 27, 2012 03:43
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ZShakespeare posted:Ruby, Haskell and Prolog are out because I've already had to learn them. I'm checking out F# tho. 
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Jun 27, 2012 03:44
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ZShakespeare posted:SFU. It's a comparative PL class. Basically we learn poo poo other than Java/C# in the hopes that maybe lessons learned from non–imperative languages will make us better coders. Also poo poo like like differences between static/dynamic typing and binding and how you can compile python code into whatever other lower level language you want and have it run pretty much as fast. I can't remember, have you learned lisp if not, learn lisp start with mccarrthy's original paper which is very readable and shows just how simple the language can be next imo read the little schemer which is a painless way to learn old school scheme in just few hours since it's barely more complicated than mccarthy's original version finally you're ready for sicp which is basically a book on how to think recursively which doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize iteration ⊂ recursion at which point I have expanded ur mind and you're welcome
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Jun 27, 2012 04:22
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alternatively: don't learn lisp
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Jun 27, 2012 09:52
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learn lisp by skimming sicp remember that youre probably not learning lisp in order to be able to program in lisp
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Jun 27, 2012 12:17
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Learn Lisp by using Emacs. Remember that you're only learning it to make Emacs more awesome.
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Jun 27, 2012 12:20
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how about no!!!!!
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Jun 27, 2012 13:00
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Zombywuf posted:Learn Lisp by using Emacs. Remember that you're only learning it to make Emacs more awesome.
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Jun 27, 2012 13:44
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using emacs would be like touching RMS, that's gross. Contributing would be like eating his scabs.
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Jun 27, 2012 19:16
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Ronald Raiden posted:using emacs would be like touching RMS, that's gross. Contributing would be like eating his scabs. if you hate rms you should not contribute to emacs and instead have children human children, not half-human half-parrot grotesque freak children
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Jun 27, 2012 19:19
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if you want to troll rms then write some awesome software that alters the course of human progress for the better and give it away but make it closed source if it involves european folk dancing and/or parrots allthe better
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Jun 27, 2012 19:32
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Ronald Raiden posted:using emacs would be like touching RMS, that's gross. Contributing would be like eating his scabs.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:24
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Ronald Raiden posted:Yea, same. It was also called comparative programming at UofAz, really fun class. go devils
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Jun 28, 2012 01:14
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lisp is really good because instaed of getting all aspergers about syntax you can simply write software and use that cs degree you studied so hard for for real
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Jun 28, 2012 01:50
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iamthexander posted:go devils Also whatever your college team is, idc much really
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PrBacterio posted:yeah thats what I said, though going into that much detail describing it is also gross. almost seems like you enjoy thinking about it, ugh
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