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Probably not worth it even then. $30 won't buy you a good SATA card.
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Constantly LARPing posted:So my second Mushkin Chronos 120 GB died on me today. The first one died in about two weeks, and this one in under two months. Am I just unlucky, or is it time to cut my losses and invest in a Crucial or Intel or something and just use the RMAd Mushkin for backup? I have two 120GB's for over a year without issue.
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fookolt posted:Is it worth spending ~$30 to get a PCI-E SATA 3 card for my SATA 2 motherboard?
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evil_bunnY posted:Squirrel the money away for your next upgrade instead. Sage advice. I was stupid enough to look at newegg this morning. I should have learned my lesson a very long time ago. But I did it and I've been fighting off the sulks the rest of the day. if I could get the mobo / CPU combos they are selling on there for anywhere near that here I'd drop the $ in a heartbeat like that one with the A8-3850 for like $150. I'd fix my SATA 1, damaged USB, lovely mobo and outdated CPU issue all in one and for a fraction of what I would be paying here. Running this SSD in SATA 1 and no AHCI is kind of irritating me. Under-utilized hardware is a pet peeve of mine.That even tends to apply to addressable RAM. But that's just me. Besides, given spare RAM I will fill it. RAMDisk > SSD > Spinner > USB drive > CD/DVD > Tape drive > OCZ SSD after all.
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Jun 25, 2012 08:46
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Anyone ever dealt with the OCZ Deneva 2 series? We just found a 480gb one in the box, never used sitting on a desk. Apparently it was sent as a demo. Time to see how it compares to my 512 Crucial M4.
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fookolt posted:Is it worth spending ~$30 to get a PCI-E SATA 3 card for my SATA 2 motherboard?
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the spyder posted:Anyone ever dealt with the OCZ Deneva 2 series? We just found a 480gb one in the box, never used sitting on a desk. Apparently it was sent as a demo. Time to see how it compares to my 512 Crucial M4. Its basically a enterprise-featured Vertex 3 with possibly higher grade NAND. It really depends which configuration it is though and what over-provisioning level.
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I have a situation where I believe a SSD would help performance considerably, but have a concern about constant writes... A little background first: Currently specing out some machines for work that will be doing NVR/DVR recording duties for lots of IP cameras. The machines will be running Windows 7. Video data is spread across several HDs but for performance reasons the OS is installed on its own smaller HD. The video software writes the video data to the storage drives, however it also maintains a MS SQL Express database that is used to locate video events and other data. It puts this database on the OS drive. The video software continuously writes to this database at the rate of around 100KB/sec. The DB generally stays around 1GB in size. When seeking through any video during playback, the software has scan though the DB to get the location of video files. You can definitely tell when you have a slow hardrive for the OS/DB drive due to the sheer amount of database reads. I would think a SSD would boost performance considerably for playback, but I am concerned what effect the continuous writing would have on SSD lifetime.. Any thoughts? Edit: I was considering a Crucial M4 128GB...
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Jun 26, 2012 19:56
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The M4 is rated at 40GB per day for 5 years 100KB/second is 6MB/minute, 360MB/hour, 8.64GB/day So you should be good (if my math is right)
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Is that 100 KB sequential or random? If it's random, you might actually have significant write amplification. Probably not enough to reach up to 40 GB/day of actual writes with ~8GB of data, but maybe.
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Jun 26, 2012 20:28
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stevewm posted:I would think a SSD would boost performance considerably for playback, but I am concerned what effect the continuous writing would have on SSD lifetime.. Any thoughts?
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Well I guess I'll go with the SSD then  The mobo has a Z77 chipset and SATA3 connectors, Win 7 OS and I will be installing the Intel RST drivers. So TRIM should not be an issue. Just wish mechanical HDs would go back down... 8TB of space is not cheap especially when you cannot use the cheaper "green" drives!
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Jun 26, 2012 20:43
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SAMSUNG 830 256GB is going on sale for $189.99 on Newegg until 11:59pm PST 6/28/12 Promo Code: EMCYTZT1815 ~74 cents/GB This is down from $250 or almost $1/GB
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Bob Morales posted:The M4 is rated at 40GB per day for 5 years
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Jun 28, 2012 01:37
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I'm not sure how well regarded they are but Kingston 128GB drives are down to £59.98 on Dabs right now.
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Yeah, I got that email too, I thought it was a V200+ so I of course went a bit over the top in my excitement at how cheap things were getting. But it's a JMicron based drive. Still, very cheap. I'm liking this SSD price crash that's happening..
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Infected Mushroom posted:I'm not sure how well regarded they are but Kingston 128GB drives are down to £59.98 on Dabs right now. Kingston makes a bunch of different drives with different controllers, and even though it's a JMicron drive like HalloKitty said, you'll still see a huge improvement from installing one. I have a 64GB Kingston with a JMicron controller, and I took it out of this Core Quad Ubuntu box I had and put the 750GB 7200RPM drive back in it. Using it now is like 
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Using my netbook with a mechanical HDD is the same. I can't believe how much different computers are with SSDs, holy poo poo. vvvv: I got the SSD for my desktop. My netbook cost 1/3 of what I spent on the SSD. I can live without it cause it's a netbook. Odette fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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A good SSD will make even a netbook pretty tolerable. Too bad they universally have lovely screens (or had, last time I checked).
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I just put a 128GB Crucial M4 into my Vaio, and it's amazing. It's like a brand new laptop. At the same time, though, I was going to also get an external drive, because 128GB isn't enough for like a music library and whatnot, but then I thought: this laptop already has a pretty big platter drive in it, and so far that's just going to go to waste. So instead I got the SSD and a 2.5" external enclosure, which my old platter drive is now sitting in. I saved easily $150 or so this way, but now I'm wondering if there are any downsides to this kind of setup. Is my $20 enclosure in danger of frying my drive or anything like that?
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That 360GB OCZ Agility 3 for $200 right now is a smoking deal on a smoking pile of crap. On the other hand, Tom's has an article where they try to figure out why the OCZ Vertex 4 128GB is having sustained write issues when it's half-full. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-4-ssd-write-performance,3235.html   
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Juffo-Wup posted:I just put a 128GB Crucial M4 into my Vaio, and it's amazing. It's like a brand new laptop. At the same time, though, I was going to also get an external drive, because 128GB isn't enough for like a music library and whatnot, but then I thought: this laptop already has a pretty big platter drive in it, and so far that's just going to go to waste. So instead I got the SSD and a 2.5" external enclosure, which my old platter drive is now sitting in. I saved easily $150 or so this way, but now I'm wondering if there are any downsides to this kind of setup. Is my $20 enclosure in danger of frying my drive or anything like that? No, you're just more likely to drop it/forget it/break the connectors on your laptop and/or the enclosure somehow.
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Alereon posted:If TRIM cannot be enabled for some reason, you'll need to use a Sandforce-based drive. It's a minor point as if I get an SSD it will likely be with a new system so I may be able to stay in Win7 always, but I occasionally boot into XP just for a few games which run substantially better at the moment. So if I want to dual-boot XP with an SSD without native cleanup, but say I'm only in XP for a few hours at a time and 90% in Win7 - would this even matter?
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Sandforce's background GC and write amplification are vastly better than other manufacturers, they're pretty much the only drives that can be used in a system without TRIM support without incurring a growing performance penalty over the long term. Anandtech specifically recommends against using Marvell-based drives (Crucial M4, Intel SSD 510) on Macs for that reason. Dual-booting isn't an issue though, especially if you're not doing substantial writes, and you can always TRIM the drive manually if you think performance is being affected. That said, you probably won't have any reason to dual-boot into XP on a modern system.
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Quick question. would this board be SSD friendly? http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-S%20UCC/?cat=Specifications Simply put, including postage I can get it for about $70 which is only a tiny fraction of what I'm looking at to put together a new system. At least this will get me back to roughly where I was before the old board failed. There are no deals to be had in this bloody country so it's a U.K. import. Anyhow, I want something that will play nice with the SanDisk Extreme I bought. Ie at least allow me to use it the way it should be instead of a SATA1 HDD. Bummer is that board is mini ATX form factor, but it's roughly on par with the old board. Still using the RAM and CPU in this lovely ASUS board. Been looking at benchmarks and nothing available locally below about $250 gets above where the venerable Athlon 64 x2 4000+ is. Oh sonofabitch. The benchmarking utility I couldn't find in debian has mysteriously appeared. Might as well run it.
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General_Failure posted:Quick question. would this board be SSD friendly? It is prehistoric and lovely, don't do it.
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Sinestro posted:It is prehistoric and lovely, don't do it. It's also newer than what I have. Don't suppose you know of a decent online store that ships internationally? The hardware prices in Australia are absolute bullshit right now. It was pointed out to me that it's probably because the government is pulling one of their scams and gave everyone a token payment to distract them from the imminent wallet raping. Last time they did this prices on everything shot right up and everywhere started offering "sales" and "special deals" to part fools with their money.
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Not to go on a derail but it surprises me that technology is that expensive in Australia. I mean, you are a stone's throw away from Japan and Taiwan. Is it a protectionist policies issue?
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TerryLennox posted:Not to go on a derail but it surprises me that technology is that expensive in Australia. I mean, you are a stone's throw away from Japan and Taiwan. Is it a protectionist policies issue? No, not at all. Or at least not that I know of. I've seen such forces at work in the U.S. but we don't seem to have it. Pretty sure it's all happening at the retail, or sometimes supplier level. i could show you things in some of the home electronics stores that they sell for $50 and show you the exact same item which I purchased for $2 with free postage from China. Not even rebadged. The Governments most recent bout of paranoia has slowed down imports a hell of a lot recently. I could buy something in China or HK and it'd be in my mailbox / handed to me at my door in two days. Currently it's taking 6 weeks to two months because they are going nuts searching everything for drugs and for things on their huge blacklist. Hell, i know someone that was sent a threat letter recently with lots of legalese, $200 fine, court blah blah over a pair of training nunchuks. I have no loving idea how to spell that. Anyway these things are foam rubber, plastic inside and a short length of nylon cord. The melee equivalent of a nerf gun ffs. Apparently plain old laser pointers and various other things like that need a permit. gently caress this insanity. Anyway what iw as saying is they don't have the whole "Buy Australian" thing going on for import items. It's just retailers ganging up and raping consumers because they know they can get away with it because most people simply don't know better. So pretty much I'm simply saying "gently caress buying from Australia if I'm going to be robbed". I think I'll send newegg a polite e-mail now.
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General_Failure posted:No, not at all. Or at least not that I know of. I've seen such forces at work in the U.S. but we don't seem to have it. Pretty sure it's all happening at the retail, or sometimes supplier level. i could show you things in some of the home electronics stores that they sell for $50 and show you the exact same item which I purchased for $2 with free postage from China. Not even rebadged. edit: In case you are curious: me posted:Has Newegg.com ever considered international sales? As an Australian I can say you would absolutely clean up if you offered shipping to here. It'd practically be a public service to millions of people. Not only by providing affordable, good quality items to people, but by the retail equivalent of natural selection. Adaption or extinction. You could help convert the rampant profiteering here into healthy competition. Yes it's as cheesy as hell. But I know what I'm doing.
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General_Failure posted:edit: In case you are curious: These guys got my business after Amazon decided they didn't want my money.
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Mr Chips posted:http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ will ship to Australia, and they will send a 256GB Crucial M4 to Australia for about A$232 all in. Amazon are cunts. I just missed on an i5 760 and a decent board on eBay because it decided it wanted me to sign in again with <20 seconds remaining and went to the whole default confirm bid bullshit. Goddamnit. Could have had it for about $220. Anyway thanks for the heads up. I have to go, so I'll have a look later on.
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Due to how pleased I am with my 480GB OWC SSD, after being asked for a "cheap" SSD recommendations, I've pointed a client to these: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDEX6G060/ $93 (SSD + 3.5" bracket) for a 60GB SSD. They will be used with Linux and XP systems, so the built-in garbage-collection makes them stand out. They mostly want them for the speed and reliability. They may even be going from some 160-320 GB HDDs, and the smaller drive is to encourage more people to move their crap to our network storage instead of saving everything locally.
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For $74.99 you can get a Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe with adapter, and it's using the much superior Synchronous NAND versus the Asynchronous used in the OWC drive, which helps with the performance penalty from using such a small drive.
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This is probably a stupid question but... My wifes desktop is a P4 2.8GHz system with 2GB of RAM running Vista and some lovely hard drive. She's fine with it, but every time I have to do something on it I want to scream in frustration. Would it be totally ridiculous to slap one of these 70 dollar SSD's in it so I don't have to wait 15 minutes for Firefox to load or whatever?
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Thermopyle posted:This is probably a stupid question but... People do it in 1.6 GHz Atom netbooks. It will help, that computer probably has some lovely 40GB hard drive that's really slow and would probably see a noticeable improvement from installing a modern 7200 RPM drive. I'd probably throw 4GB of RAM while you're at it (maybe find it for $10 on CL or SA-Mart)
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