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enthe0s posted:Tried the Voodoo Doughnut tonight with my roommate. I got through about 3 sips and he finished almost 1/3 of his glass before we both drainpoured the rest. Still though, worth the experience. I had Voodoo Doughnut as a brunch beer with pancake stacks. I think that's how your supposed to do it (and I still struggled to finish the last 1/5 of the bottle). Wouldn't buy it again either, however. RiggenBlaque posted:How does Sixpoint Apollo get that really nice tart flavor to it? Is it just the wheat or is there something more to it? Sorry if I'm late to the part on this one, but CT just started getting Sixpoint I think the lemony/citrus tart note is from the Bavarian yeast they use. Sixpoint is fighting with Brooklyn right now for my favorite NYC brewery. Brooklyn has such great special brews, but I much prefer Sixpoint's standard lineup.
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Jahoodie posted:Sixpoint is fighting with Brooklyn right now for my favorite NYC brewery. Brooklyn has such great special brews, but I much prefer Sixpoint's standard lineup. 100% agree. Hosting a bottle share this evening (paring down the cellar before I move), we'll see how it goes...
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Making a stop at Jolly Pumpkin up in Traverse City. What beers should I be looking at?
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Victory Ranch R (Centennial): Veryyyy good. Almost reminded me of Hoptimum.
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i have to share my experience of tasting the worst "beer" I've ever had the misfortune of encountering. I'm in Helsinki for a little while, meaning I have to put up with high prices and a mostly terrible selection of beer. It's heightened at venues for gigs which jack up the prices and have shitter selections than regular bars. This one I went to a few days ago was doing a special (only €5.30!) on Copen*Hagen. It's some Carlsberg product brewed by license in a Lithuanian brewery or something.  And whoah boy was it terrible. It's a clear bottle that shows the translucent white wine-color product inside. Alarm bells were ringing by this time but hey, I was at the gig, it was about to start and alcohol was needed. Jesus christ, they claim it's "extra-ordinarily refreshing. Crisp, easy and smooth. Without bitter aftertaste. Brewed with nothing but natural ingredients and cold filtered for purity. Copen*hagen is like an open invitation. Scandinavian minimalism. Being beautifully stylish and refreshingly approachable, it allows you to enjoy beer in a discerning, stylish and modern way." Screw all of that. "Without bitter aftertaste" more like without any taste except for sewer-conditioned vomit. There was a hint of something like citrus like you might get in a Cabernet Sauvignon but without the crispness of the wine. It was not beer, it wasn't wine... I don't know what the hell it was. I think the ingredient list is the most telling: "Wheat malt, rice, malted barley, carbon dioxide and 'hop flavour'." No mention of yeast. I'll be charitable and assume hop flavor means hop oil or extract or something. But genuinely, I think they're trying to attract a new market for this "beer" by making it appeal to women. It's a sad thing, because I know so many non-beer drinking women who have been genuinely positive surprised by dry-hopped (but not overly bitter) stylish craft beers. This isn't doing any favors for beer culture. Carlsberg have truly scraped the bottom of the barrel with this one. It took a good few glasses of water and other drinks to get the taste away from my mouth. Avoid.
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Man, if you live near a Walgreen's drugstore, you should pick up a six of Big Flats sometime. That will de-throne Copen*Hagen.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Man, if you live near a Walgreen's drugstore, you should pick up a six of Big Flats sometime. That will de-throne Copen*Hagen. Big Flats is pretty bad, though I'm wanting to try one of those $9 30-packs I saw in Kenosha a couple weekends ago to see what a $1.80 sixer tastes like.
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"Sadly" I'm Europe-based but will keep it in mind.  Has any one of you ever tried Copen Hagen? Because goddamn, I wasn't even aware of its existence.
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Helsinki actually has 2 down right amazing bars. http://www.onepintpub.com/?page_id=6 and http://www.pikkulintu.fi/ Olutravintola Pikkulintu. Both are good enough that Cantillon made some special one off lambics for them.
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crazyfish posted:Big Flats is pretty bad, though I'm wanting to try one of those $9 30-packs I saw in Kenosha a couple weekends ago to see what a $1.80 sixer tastes like. Any idea what the product name was? I'm always up for trying awful things.
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Kosher man posted:Helsinki actually has 2 down right amazing bars. http://www.onepintpub.com/?page_id=6 Oh I'm aware, I've been. This was, like I said in that post, desperation of a sort mixed with morbid curiosity.
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i was just hanging out with some dudes who are trying to start up a brewery, which always involves people bringing bottles to share. brought a Central Waters Peruvian Morning and was really disappointed after all the talk in the thread- we all found it hot, thin, and kinda sour; nothing close to KBS. fortunately i got to try some Westvleteren 12, because that poo poo was delicious. quads aren't generally my thing, so i was really surprised at how light and... effervescent?... it was. a little burn, but sweet, with a lovely caramel flavor that went on for a long time. not something i'd kill for, but i'd be really happy to drink it again.
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funkybottoms posted:i was just hanging out with some dudes who are trying to start up a brewery, which always involves people bringing bottles to share. brought a Central Waters Peruvian Morning and was really disappointed after all the talk in the thread- we all found it hot, thin, and kinda sour; nothing close to KBS. fortunately i got to try some Westvleteren 12, because that poo poo was delicious. quads aren't generally my thing, so i was really surprised at how light and... effervescent?... it was. a little burn, but sweet, with a lovely caramel flavor that went on for a long time. not something i'd kill for, but i'd be really happy to drink it again. Peruvian Morning was recalled (or was a voluntarily recall, I forget)earlier in June.
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Drinking an Einbecker Ur-Bock Dunkel right now. I would have to say it's quite different from the Hefe Dunkel I have tried from Weihenstephaner. That's about all I can compare it to because I believe this is my first Bock. Apparently Einbecker invented the style. Smells like alcohol and yeast, tastes like spiced banana bread. Anyways, it's a good beer. A bit too spicy for me, but I'm glad I gave it a whirl.
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I Dont Like You posted:Peruvian Morning was recalled (or was a voluntarily recall, I forget)earlier in June. yeah, looked it up and i definitely got a bad bottle, we ended up dumping most of it.
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funkybottoms posted:yeah, looked it up and i definitely got a bad bottle, we ended up dumping most of it. I remember a few weeks before the recall there was a thread on BA (I know, I know) about bad bottles, and just figured it was an isolated incident. Then every bottle I bought/opened was sour. At least for a solid 2 or so months it was excellent..
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Jul 1, 2012 19:55
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Headed to a BYOB tasting tonight. I'm bringing DFH Positive Contact, Troegs Flying Mouflan, and Firestone Walker Double Jack. Should be interesting to see what others bring out of hiding. Contemplated bringing a vertical of Rodenbach Vintage 07/08/09 but I would probably have to drink most of it by myself.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Any idea what the product name was? I'm always up for trying awful things. I can't remember, but I'll be sure to post it next time I'm in kenosha.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Any idea what the product name was? I'm always up for trying awful things. A few years ago, the cashier at the Kenosha Woodmans looked at the cart full of cheap beer my friends and I were purchasing and said, "Yknow, there's a reason why they stopped making most of these for a while." Wisconsin is awesome. Highlights of nearly 10 years of boating on lakes up there: Jacobs Best Light: the best light American lager ever. A legit good beer. No longer available to my knowledge. Rhinelander: maybe the worst beer ever. After drinking insane amounts of cheap WI beer for 10+ hours, we drain poured it. Jacob Hackstein: A case for $6. I poo poo you not. It wasn't undrinkable, either. And speaking of drain pouring: Duck Rabbit's Amber. Does it always taste like soy sauce or did I just have a bad/old sixer?
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After two trips to Wisconsin where I've gone to bars with huge tap lists and tried a few flights of all Wisconsin-based small breweries, I can say that I think Wisconsin beer has to be some of the worst I've had yet. Recent beers I've had from WI breweries include: Milwaukee Brewing O-Gii O'so Spike's Maple Ale Black Husky Sproose Joose Lake Louie Dino's Dark Furthermore Knot Stock Geneva Lake No Wake Tyranena Scurvy Lakefront IPA Every one besides the Scurvy and Lakefront was average to outright bad, with those two beers being decent enough. I've had some Ale Asylum stuff and Central Waters stuff as well, and it's meh nearly across the board. The only brewery that I think makes dang good beer most of the time is New Glarus. Wisconsin natives, defend yourselves, because I'm seriously disappointed.
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danbanana posted:And speaking of drain pouring: Duck Rabbit's Amber. Does it always taste like soy sauce or did I just have a bad/old sixer? it shouldn't, might've been bottled around the same time as the infected Rabid Duck i had a few months back, the cause of which was determined to be some nasty old lines (which they then replaced).
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funkybottoms posted:it shouldn't, might've been bottled around the same time as the infected Rabid Duck i had a few months back, the cause of which was determined to be some nasty old lines (which they then replaced). I figured. No self-respecting brewery would have released something so bad. Voodoo Maple Bullshit excluded. Their Brown was fantastic, on my opinion. Unfortunately, nothing else I had I not NC was particularly good and I didn't have time to stop at any bottle shops.
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Had three new beers this week, all on tap: Oxbow Freestyle v6, Oxbow Space Cowboy, and Schneider Edel-Weisse. Once again, Oxbow impresses. The Freestyle was a Belgian saison-ish. It had light, floral hops, slight sweetness, crispness, a medium body, and a hint of funky/sour. Lives up to the name. The Space Cowboy was also good. Medium body, hazy/wheaty, coriander, and low abv. Refreshing. Schneider Edel-Weisse was also very nice. Low ABV and very light, which was great drinking outdoors last night. Filtered wheat with a summery aroma.
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Jul 1, 2012 23:23
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Salsa McManus posted:Making a stop at Jolly Pumpkin up in Traverse City. What beers should I be looking at? Sobrehumano Palena'ole, Saison, Biere De Mars.
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ShaneB posted:After two trips to Wisconsin where I've gone to bars with huge tap lists and tried a few flights of all Wisconsin-based small breweries, I can say that I think Wisconsin beer has to be some of the worst I've had yet. As a resident of WI for 4 years, yeah I can't really disagree there, ha. I tend to drink New Glarus and Lakefront the most (both are available literally anywhere I can buy beer at, and I live in the same part of town as Lakefront, so... yeah). My favorite Central Waters have been the few winter seasonal things (Bourbon Barrel Stout, Bourbon Barrel Barleywine, Peruvian Morning pre-sour "infection" or whatever the gently caress happened, and 1414). I don't think their porter and regular Satin Solstice stout, though their "imperial stouts" are fairly thin. Tasty, but not with the big dogs or anything. I really liked O'so Lupulin Maximus, but that might be old by now.
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Salsa McManus posted:Making a stop at Jolly Pumpkin up in Traverse City. What beers should I be looking at? Madrugada Obscura if they have it. Can't remember if it's a winter seasonal.
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Re: WI craft brews. Lakefront is solid, though nothing I've had is top-of-style or anything. New Glarus is terribly overrated, though the fruit beers are phenomenonal. I've had a couple things from O'so. Their IIPA is very good. And as mentioned above, Central Waters' limited winter releases are amongst the best of their styles. I also really like Satin Solstice, especially for the price. Overall, WI is the cheap beer capital of the US, but I would agree that their craft beer industry is weak. Especially compared to, say, MI.
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Madrugada Obscura if they have it. Can't remember if it's a winter seasonal. That one is actually my least favourite, though I don't think jolly pumpkin is even capable of making a bad beer. My favourites are the oro de calabaza golden, the calabaza blanca witbier, and that io saison that is made with hibiscus and rose hips (and I normally dislike flowery beer).
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While we're on the subject of bad Wisconsin beers... (The label on the bottleneck reads "Maple Wheat") My friend had this in his possession c/o his cousin, who had stopped at this place on vacation. My friend was saving it for us because he knew we'd all agree it'd be one of the worst beers we'd ever try. I was convinced before I even tasted it — maple wheat? really? — but good god, was it awful. At first it just tastes kind of skunked, then the fake maple taste settles into the back of your mouth and  If anyone else here has had this, I'd love to read their thoughts. E: Oh god, I just looked up their website: http://www.woodmanwi.com/brewerybeer.html Look at some of this poo poo: coconut wheat, carrot wheat, carrot wheat IPA... Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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The SARS Volta posted:E: Oh god, I just looked up their website: http://www.woodmanwi.com/brewerybeer.html Copperplate Gothic Bold = Good Beer Also, the motorcycle, it's going backward  I feel like I need to go there the next time I find myself in the midwest. I love you fuckers up in that part of the country.
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Yeah, that Duck-Rabbit Amber was a bad batch. We got part of that as well... unfortunately during a tasting which meant I had to quickly source bottles from a newer batch and explain the concept of infected beer to a group of casual beer drinkers. I'm afraid a bunch of them will never touch Duck-Rabbit again. Sucks. Anyway, trip report from tonight's tasting: The highlight was the DFH/SN collab Life and Limb. Excellent beer. Also opened a DFH Bitches Brew, an '08 or '09 Parabola, and a 3F Dark Lord (2010?) in addition to the three beers I brought. Overall, a lot of fun - and I got to cross off the final bottled releases from DFH that I hadn't had. Positive Contact reminded me a lot of Noble Rot. Some subdued funk in the nose. The cilantro was almost non-existent. There was a little bit of warmth in the finish from the cayenne. Overall, it was fairly neutral. Probably the tamest of the crazy DFH concoctions I have had. Shame. I expected something very different - maybe horrible, but different. It just lacked the cidery/spicy punch I was expecting. It was like a lightly-spiced witbier with a bit of a sweet finish. Something I'd buy a sixpack of and enjoy casually - not something I would drop serious cash on as part of a package. It just doesn't stand out. The Flying Mouflan was terrific. Balanced, smooth, and a hit with everyone. The hop heads liked the Double Jack, but the consensus was that it needed a bit more of a bright citrus edge to it in order to balance the finish. Overall, very good, though. I really enjoyed it and thought it needed no improvement. FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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ShaneB posted:After two trips to Wisconsin where I've gone to bars with huge tap lists and tried a few flights of all Wisconsin-based small breweries, I can say that I think Wisconsin beer has to be some of the worst I've had yet. Tyranena Bitter Women Tyranena Rocky’s Revenge Ale Asylum Bedlam (my go to these days) New Glarus Moon Man New Glarus IIPA New Glarus Black Top Potosi Snake Hollow IPA Lake Louie Warped Speed Scotch Ale Central Waters Double Illumination Are some of my personal favorites, but I cant disagree with a lot on your list, and yeah there are definitely some bad brewery's here that are popular (Capitol, Pearl Street), but there are some gems too. And yes MI > WI when it comes to craftbeer.
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Ubik posted:No it's not. It helps prevent off-flavors caused by contamination, which goes a long way in keeping beer shelf-stable for longer periods of time, but it's far from necessary. The brewery I work at now is orders of magnitude larger than the first brewery I worked at, but doesn't use pasteurization and still has a low rate of bottle infections. The pasteurisation retards ageing in the bottle which leads to a more consistent experience for the customer. Consistency is really essential if you're trying to build a brand.
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broom posted:
I'm sorry but this is just bad. One of the worst IIPAs I've ever had.
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broom posted:Ale Asylum Bedlam (my go to these days) Bedlam is actually one of the decent belgipa's out there.
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danbanana posted:I'm sorry but this is just bad. One of the worst IIPAs I've ever had. Really? I grabbed a 4-pack the other week and thought it was great. Much more drinkable than the Sixpoint Resin I got during the same trip.
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Sirotan posted:Really? I grabbed a 4-pack the other week and thought it was great. Much more drinkable than the Sixpoint Resin I got during the same trip. Yeah, tasted like they found the world's blandest hops and loaded it with them. The pack I bought wasn't too old either. Just not good to me.
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crazyfish posted:That one is actually my least favourite, though I don't think jolly pumpkin is even capable of making a bad beer. My favourites are the oro de calabaza golden, the calabaza blanca witbier, and that io saison that is made with hibiscus and rose hips (and I normally dislike flowery beer). Really? I love it. I have had an off bottle of it that was VERY lactic and a bit unpleasant, so I guess there's a bit of bottle variation.
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danbanana posted:I'm sorry but this is just bad. One of the worst IIPAs I've ever had. Not sure what to tell you, I think it has a great hop fruit balance, little malt. To me it is very smooth for 10% abv.
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