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These guests have been powered off & on again and they aren't picking up the new EVC type. We had to power them off to migrate as the cluster they came from is so old it pre dates EVC compatibility. They only jump up to sandy bridge mode after the v8 hardware upgrade.  edit: I ran some CPU benchmarks with PassMark on Windows and they were virtually the same between v7 & 8 so it looks like there is definitely no performance benefit. thanks guys GrandMaster fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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Do you have that monitor rotated or something? There's definitely ClearType turned on there, but the subpixels aren't lining up. Maybe it's just my eyes.
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Jun 28, 2012 09:27
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I'd put in a vote for vSphere Client is complete poo poo at rendering anything.
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Jun 28, 2012 15:24
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FISHMANPET posted:I'd put in a vote for vSphere Client is complete poo poo at rendering anything.
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After wrestling with MS Project for the last 6 hours, it is now telling me that it's going to take the next 18 months to upgrade our environment to vSphere 5. Along the way we'll be retiring all non supported hardware (20% of the environment), ESX3.x (another 20%), lots of old FC(40% ish of the storage) and consolidating 9 segregated networks down to 5 while moving more towards 10GbE and NFS and away from 1GbE and FC.  I wanted a job with a challenge, this one appears to need a lobotomy.
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Jun 28, 2012 23:20
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Mausi posted:After wrestling with MS Project for the last 6 hours, it is now telling me that it's going to take the next 18 months to upgrade our environment to vSphere 5.
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Jun 29, 2012 00:05
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FISHMANPET posted:I'd put in a vote for vSphere Client is complete poo poo at rendering anything. Don't worry, the Flex UI is the future!
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Jun 29, 2012 02:12
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Why can't I install vCenter 4.1 on Windows 7? XP is supported. Jerks.
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Jun 29, 2012 20:50
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Moey posted:Why can't I install vCenter 4.1 on Windows 7? XP is supported. I can run it on Windows 7 64-bit, are you using the 32-bit edition?
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Jun 29, 2012 23:46
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Blaminator posted:I can run it on Windows 7 64-bit, are you using the 32-bit edition? Nope. Win 7 pro x64. Only way to get it to install is to modify the msi.
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Jun 30, 2012 00:37
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Just the vSphere client, or something else? I've got no problems running the client on Win 7 Enterprise x64.
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Jun 30, 2012 05:48
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The post explicitly said vCenter
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Jun 30, 2012 15:25
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Well poo poo, maybe when I actually have a vCenter server I'll be able to tell them apart. But why would you install it on a desktop OS?
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Jun 30, 2012 17:31
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FISHMANPET posted:Well poo poo, maybe when I actually have a vCenter server I'll be able to tell them apart. It is at our DR site/Colo and is only managing 3 hosts (essentials plus).
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Jun 30, 2012 17:46
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Moey posted:It is at our DR site/Colo and is only managing 3 hosts (essentials plus). \/\/\/\/\/\/ Congratulations! Mausi fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 30, 2012 |
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Woot passed my VCP5! Now to revise that OP Moey posted:Nope. Win 7 pro x64. Why not install it on 2008r2 and just use the 180 day trial? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/windows-server/default.aspx Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 30, 2012 |
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Corvettefisher posted:Why not install it on 2008r2 and just use the 180 day trial?
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Misogynist posted:What a great idea for disaster recovery in a site that someone is presumably paying thousands of dollars for monthly Normally I wouldn't see someone installing vcenter server on a desktop OS for a production environment. My mistake Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jul 1, 2012 |
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Misogynist posted:What a great idea for disaster recovery in a site that someone is presumably paying thousands of dollars for monthly Pay a couple hundred of those thousands and get a real server OS.
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When confronted with a bad situation, the goal should always be to make it worse.
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For a computer at home to learn on would a newer d2500 intel atom with 4GB of ram be enough or is that going to be too slow? I just need a small quiet pc that can host with centos and run a server 2008 vm to play around with.
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Christobevii3 posted:For a computer at home to learn on would a newer d2500 intel atom with 4GB of ram be enough or is that going to be too slow? I just need a small quiet pc that can host with centos and run a server 2008 vm to play around with.
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yeah those don't support virtualization, you can however get a really cheap AMD quad/tri core that does. You can check CPU support here http://www.cpu-world.com/index.html Virtualization support will be like this AMD is AMD-V Intel is Intel-VT Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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If I go with the a8 amd cpu, how bad is the linux support going to be for the host?
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Christobevii3 posted:If I go with the a8 amd cpu, how bad is the linux support going to be for the host? Wait are you planning to run ESXi or Workstation I am confused here. Esxi, installs right onto the hardware you don't have *nix drivers of sorts, you can add custom drivers to esxi 5 but that is a whole different beast I don't think you want to get into. Workstation, would install on *nix, I have found Centos to work decently for AMD, fedora never worked right as far as graphics drivers. I run an X6 and M5A97 as well as a 6970 and was able to have it stable with Workstation 2012 beta. I have no idea about Debian based distros, I would assume ubuntu would have decent support for workstation. If you give me your budget I can spec some things out
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I'm reading through that EMC storage book because I don't know that much about storage hardware. While I find the more practical aspects about NAS/SAN easy to pick up, a lot of the extra details I find a bit involved. Do I really give a poo poo about the frames in a SAN that much down to what each set of bytes is doing?
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Somebody somewhere has to understand what they're doing, because otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place. The person who understands that gets to dictate their own salary. Might as well be that guy.
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I suppose. I meant more along the lines of how often would you use such knowledge? For instance, I can set up networks and have an intermediate understanding of how it works, but I couldn't tell you the exact structure of a packet because it almost never relates to the tasks I tend to be doing.
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Sylink posted:Do I really give a poo poo about the frames in a SAN that much down to what each set of bytes is doing? Sylink posted:For instance, I can set up networks and have an intermediate understanding of how it works, but I couldn't tell you the exact structure of a packet because it almost never relates to the tasks I tend to be doing.
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I'm going to disagree. Unless your title is Storage Admin, you probably do not need to know that nitty gritty.
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$400-500 would be good. I was looking at the amd a8-3850, 8GB of ram (maybe 16), 120GB ssd?, case, and power supply.
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evil_bunnY posted:It kinda makes or breaks performance, so yeah?
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Misogynist posted:Eh, I'm torn on this one. It does, but the FC layer is at fault for so few performance issues in small SANs that you can pretty much ignore it if you're not doing anything stupid.
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evil_bunnY posted:Now keep in mind my FC knowledge is pretty much zero compared to yours (ethernet forever) but the same kind of logic can apply to say, a data stripe once you're on the storage head. Whats up ethernet buddy  
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evil_bunnY posted:Now keep in mind my FC knowledge is pretty much zero compared to yours (ethernet forever) but the same kind of logic can apply to say, a data stripe once you're on the storage head.
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Sylink posted:I suppose. I meant more along the lines of how often would you use such knowledge? Depends on the environment really. Day to day I deal with mostly NFS, iscsi, or SAS. Knowing the difference between iscsi and NFS is huge for vmware in terms of RDM, latency, backups, replication, deduplication, file access, and other features. I see good amount of simplistic errors on a day to day as well such as write cache disabled, improper raid types for services, I/O contention, and trivial things like that. Generally unless you know you are going to work with FC stick to NFS/iscsi and how they work with the backend FS and TCP/IP stack, RAID types, replication, eliminating SPoFs, disk provisioning in terms of IOPS, and things like that. Unless you plan to be deploying storage on a day to day basis you won't need to know bit by bit how DRBD works, but it is good to know. Christobevii3 posted:$400-500 would be good. Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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I'm mainly looking to have it to play around with stuff so fault tolerance isn't a huge issue. Probably looking at: Server 2008 to mess with active directory, cent os, windows 7 install, and maybe ubuntu desktop. Would that hardware work ok? It looked like esxi is picky about network and sata controllers? Is it better to just get an intel mobo then?
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Christobevii3 posted:I'm mainly looking to have it to play around with stuff so fault tolerance isn't a huge issue. Probably looking at: Server 2008 to mess with active directory, cent os, windows 7 install, and maybe ubuntu desktop. Would that hardware work ok? It looked like esxi is picky about network and sata controllers? Is it better to just get an intel mobo then? Esxi 5 is, I run VMware workstation and esxi + vcenter + iscsi storage and do most of what I'll put something together before tonight actually what is your system upgrading it with some SSD's, ram, and upping the CPU might be best cost wise Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jul 3, 2012 |
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Do you storage and system types see any information out there recommending (one way or another) settings for prefetching behavior at all? From my understanding, system-side prefectching (memory, etc) is pretty much something to avoid in an ESXi box, and I would imagine it's the same for storage when I/O patterns begin to look almost completely random (i.e. from a bunch of ESXi hosts).
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Holy poo poo, if I'd known I was going to be presenting my 2 month old VMWare implementation plan in front of my boss' boss, I would have worn nicer pants. Also, can anyone critique my physical layout?  The switches are 10G, all the connections between hosts and storage is 10G, connection back to the router close is currently 1G, but we might go to etherchannel and do double or quadruple ports there.
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