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thideras posted:Why get an addon NIC when the board comes with one? frumpsnake fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jul 2, 2012 |
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frumpsnake posted:Going Intel gives you peace-of-mind in regards to both performance and compatibility. That being said, I just had another set of drives arrive today. This time they are eight Seagate 1.5tb (ST31500341AS) that I got for $400 shipped. These are going into my NAS test server in place of the 750gb Seagates that I just purchased. This gives me a total of 49.526tb of raw spinning disk. 
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I hope this is the right thread to ask this question. I want to turn my old laptop into a server. I was originally going to use an old desktop but I figured the laptop would use less power 24/7. The server needs to be able to run SABnzbd. What is the most energy efficient way to go about this? I thought that FreeNAS would be the best choice, but my idle power usage seems high at ~25W. I've been reading that people get lower usages with Windows Server. Or maybe I'm going about this in completely the wrong way?
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Shane-O-Mac posted:I hope this is the right thread to ask this question. I want to turn my old laptop into a server. I was originally going to use an old desktop but I figured the laptop would use less power 24/7. The server needs to be able to run SABnzbd. What is the most energy efficient way to go about this? I thought that FreeNAS would be the best choice, but my idle power usage seems high at ~25W. I've been reading that people get lower usages with Windows Server. Or maybe I'm going about this in completely the wrong way?
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thideras posted:Do you have the power daemon started? It is under services and not enabled by default. Powerd? Yeah, I turned that on, though I don't know how to configure it if that's possible.
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Jul 3, 2012 01:06
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What is an affordable and quiet NAS that can download via SickBeard/SABNZBD? It would be a bonus if it's easy to install said software. 
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Jul 3, 2012 12:42
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Synology DS212J.
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Jul 3, 2012 12:53
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bobfather posted:Synology DS212J. Thanks, I've been looking at that one. It was just hard for me to figure out if SickBeard etc. could be installed on it.
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Jul 3, 2012 13:05
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Shane-O-Mac posted:I hope this is the right thread to ask this question. I want to turn my old laptop into a server. I was originally going to use an old desktop but I figured the laptop would use less power 24/7. The server needs to be able to run SABnzbd. What is the most energy efficient way to go about this? I thought that FreeNAS would be the best choice, but my idle power usage seems high at ~25W. I've been reading that people get lower usages with Windows Server. Or maybe I'm going about this in completely the wrong way? FYI, at the average US utility rate of 10 cents it will cost $1.80 to run that laptop 24/7 for a whole month.
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VulgarandStupid posted:What would be the disadvantages of using an old Athlon x2 250 system as a double duty HTPC/NAS? I would most likely just throw windows 7 on there, network share the folders and run Playstation media server. My board does allow Raid but I probably wouldn't use it at first. My primary goal is just media sharing but I figure doing manual file backups would be easy as well. I run nine debian virtual machines and an XP VM on an X2 250 clocked at 3.6GHz with 4GB of ram, and the host they all run on saturates gigE all day long without even thinking about it. You'll be fine.
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Thermopyle posted:FYI, at the average US utility rate of 10 cents it will cost $1.80 to run that laptop 24/7 for a whole month. Hmm, it seems that I don't know how to read my electric bill. The way I was calculating it, it would cost $30+ to run per month. I'll try to figure out the cost again.
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Shane-O-Mac posted:Hmm, it seems that I don't know how to read my electric bill. The way I was calculating it, it would cost $30+ to run per month. I'll try to figure out the cost again.
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Shane-O-Mac posted:Hmm, it seems that I don't know how to read my electric bill. The way I was calculating it, it would cost $30+ to run per month. I'll try to figure out the cost again. 25 watts * 24 hours / 1000 = .6 KW/h per day .6 * 10 cents = 6 cents per day
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Jul 3, 2012 18:54
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I guess it depends on where you live. Here's my rates in SoCal I've never not end up in Tier 5 either.
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Is there a bt client like Mac's Transmission that basically lets me click on torrents/magnet links in my pc's browser and have them sent to Synology Download Station? I could set up a mapped 'Watch' folder, but i'd still need a way to click a magnet link and have it download an actual torrent file to that location. I tried this with uTorrent and setting it not to download immediately, but that didn't do anything and is kind of sloppy.
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FCKGW posted:I guess it depends on where you live. Here's my rates in SoCal DrDork fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jul 4, 2012 |
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Jul 4, 2012 05:56
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In Australia I pay 22.6c/kWh for the first 1750kwH (quarterly), then its up to 32.01c. :/uG posted:Is there a bt client like Mac's Transmission that basically lets me click on torrents/magnet links in my pc's browser and have them sent to Synology Download Station? Why not just use Transmission instead of Synology Download Station and then use your Transmission remote app of choice? frumpsnake fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jul 4, 2012 |
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frumpsnake posted:In Australia I pay 22.6c/kWh for the first 1750kwH (quarterly), then its up to 32.01c. :/ It sucks, and the prices keep rising. Something to do with needing to replace all the power lines so they don't kill people during floods/fires/earthquakes/giant spider attacks
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Is there a way to place zfs snapshots into a custom (external usb hard drive) location in FreeNAS 8.x? If not, I guess my only option would be rsync to the external volumes? That kinda sucks. It's almost the last thing I need to do before I can leave my current job. That and writing tons of documentation for my boss.
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Jul 5, 2012 05:17
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Jonny 290 posted:I run nine debian virtual machines and an XP VM on an X2 250 clocked at 3.6GHz with 4GB of ram, and the host they all run on saturates gigE all day long without even thinking about it. You'll be fine. Kinda off topic but I'm curious... what is your host OS in this setup?
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DNova posted:Is there a way to place zfs snapshots into a custom (external usb hard drive) location in FreeNAS 8.x? You can use zfs send and zfs receive to keep a backup copy of the filesystem on external media.
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Madmanden posted:What is an affordable and quiet NAS that can download via SickBeard/SABNZBD? It would be a bonus if it's easy to install said software. The readynas units do i believe.
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Not strictly NAS related, but I'm sure people in here will know the answer. I set up my N40L with Ubuntu/ZFS on Linux and it's been ticking over fine for a couple of months, but I remembered I should really have a scrub/snapshot schedule set up. I set these entries in my crontab (sudo crontab -e): code:Also, is taking a snapshot daily overkill? How often is the consensus? As it's media storage my files don't change that regularly at all really so weekly would probably be fine, but it seems like it's low overhead and little disadvantage to doing it daily.
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Jul 5, 2012 18:56
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Froist posted:Not strictly NAS related, but I'm sure people in here will know the answer. My guess would be that you need the full path for the date command.
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Hed posted:Kinda off topic but I'm curious... what is your host OS in this setup? Debian squeeze, I wanted to keep things as easy-peasy as possible. I run raid5 on LVM, serve SMB straight off the host (because i set it up before I knew about disabling ethernet checksumming on the guests, and couldn't get a guest OS serving SMB properly), export volumes as needed via NFS to the guests. An old Synology CS-407e hangs out too with everything but NFS turned off for snapshot storage.
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Froist posted:Also, is taking a snapshot daily overkill? How often is the consensus? As it's media storage my files don't change that regularly at all really so weekly would probably be fine, but it seems like it's low overhead and little disadvantage to doing it daily. There's fuckall overhead, don't sweat it.
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frumpsnake posted:Why not just use Transmission instead of Synology Download Station and then use your Transmission remote app of choice? edit: Got it installed. The problem was I didn't precede the downloads share with /volume1 during the install. uG fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Pudgygiant posted:I'm getting tired of this drat WD Sharespace overheating and locking up for no reason and not being expandable. How does this look? Am I missing anything obvious? Uh, no way in poo poo should you spend that much on a 5 disk NAS, unless you've just got money to burn I guess, or you're going to be doing some crazy CPU intensive stuff that you need latest Ivy Bridge and 16 GB of RAM.
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FISHMANPET posted:Uh, no way in poo poo should you spend that much on a 5 disk NAS, unless you've just got money to burn I guess, or you're going to be doing some crazy CPU intensive stuff that you need latest Ivy Bridge and 16 GB of RAM. Multiple on-the-fly transcodes, and the Ivy Bridge and RAM are $150 more than 8GB and Sandy Bridge so I'm not too worried about that part.
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Pudgygiant posted:I'm getting tired of this drat WD Sharespace overheating and locking up for no reason and not being expandable. How does this look? Am I missing anything obvious? Are you just using this for storage, or is it also going to be doing other things? For plain storage, everything is absolute overkill. Dial it down to a i3 and a less expensive motherboard like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131841 16GB of RAM isn't really necessary, you can do seeing as how memory is so cheap 8GB for $40 is a sweetspot. For RAID, do you absolutely require a hardware RAID, or would a JBOD setup suffice? If not, check out this card: http://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-8-...=AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and pair that with something like DriveBender which gives WHS2011 drive-pooling. Also, check out this case by Lian-Li, it's mini-itx with a hotswap cage: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339
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Rukus posted:Are you just using this for storage, or is it also going to be doing other things? For plain storage, everything is absolute overkill. It's going to be doing HTPC duties in addition to transcoding to multiple devices simultaneously. I looked at the Q25, I'd probably have gone with it if it came with a PSU, but as it is it'd be more expensive to get a decent PSU, and there's nothing that'd fit with 6+ SATA power connectors on it.
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The primary problem with trying to use the same machine for an HTPC and NAS is that in smaller enclosures the heat buildup can mess with the life of the hard drives (we're talking 55 c+ drives). The Fractal Array R2 case is already known to not be the best at heat dissipation, so I would hope you're putting the case in a well-ventilated area (not in a closed TV stand). Then there's the noise issue with so many drives. I was sshed in unraring a number of files on my HTPC/NAS combo machine and the wife started panicking wondering what was going on while she was watching some movies thinking she had done something wrong or that a cat had headbutted the NAS and my drives were going to die all at once (my cat did do that before and knocked a drive off my desk subsequently causing a mechanical failure). The vibration from the disks had met with a random DVD case and was causing a loud buzz to be emitted. It's pretty nice to be able to have an all-in-one media monster machine, but balancing the ideals of a high-powered realtime transcoding box, low-power and reliable NAS, and basically invisible and silent HTPC is the holy grail of media boxes IMO and should be approached with careful consideration overall given you're going to make some noticeable trade-off somewhere probably. To add to the build, I'd argue for a micro ATX case like a Silverstone GD04 (I think that was the model) so you can get some better airflow over all those components and drives.
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Pudgygiant posted:It's going to be doing HTPC duties in addition to transcoding to multiple devices simultaneously. I looked at the Q25, I'd probably have gone with it if it came with a PSU, but as it is it'd be more expensive to get a decent PSU, and there's nothing that'd fit with 6+ SATA power connectors on it. Hard drives use stupidly little energy, get some power y-cables
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WD introduced a new "Red" line of drives today specifically for NAS users. http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=810 1, 2, 3TB configs and 3yr warranty. These are WD drives with firmware that is specific for NAS use. A lot of features borrowed from their RE line with some new stuff thrown in. Performance is somewhere between Blue and Black territory while power consumption is comparable to the Green drives (if I'm reading that right). They've also been pre-qualed with all major vendors. Anand has an overview: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6083/wd-introduces-red-nas-optimized-hdd-line Storage Review has a quick review: http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_red_nas_hard_drive_review_wd30efrx
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Any reason not to use them as system drives? The MSRP is competitive with other drives, and you get high performance along with low power consumption.
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Civil posted:Any reason not to use them as system drives? The MSRP is competitive with other drives, and you get high performance along with low power consumption.
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It seems like they only have issues with small files, and most of us who care about this poo poo already have a SSD for their system use. I've moved all my >=2TB drives to my NAS, but I wouldn't mind putting a couple large drive back into my PC for storage. These seem ideal.
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Civil posted:It seems like they only have issues with small files, and most of us who care about this poo poo already have a SSD for their system use. Plus they're RED. I mean, I want to buy them just for the label.
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I'm interested to see what the TLER value is set to. I looked through both reviews briefly, but couldn't find mention of it. The information page on WD's website states it is made for RAID.
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