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global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

SUPER HASSLER posted:

They are starting really big (50bbl system), but for some reason they are charging by far the biggest prices for bottles in this state. I mean, people used to think Jester King charged a lot, but they are charging like $16 for a bomber of a very basic (tho good) kinda saison, and that's just ridiculous.

That's like a new local (and largely crappy) brewery here in MPLS which I won't name, I've seen their bombers at 6.99 which isn't too expensive if it were decent (it's not). 6.99 can get you a decent six pack. Who actually buys this poo poo? At what point will the enthusiasm for something 'local' fade in the face of the fact that the beer kinda sucks? Maybe this rampant homerism is just a Minnesota thing, I feel like people and the local press here always go on about how awesome the Cities are.

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CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants

enthe0s posted:

Enjoyed Great Divide Samurai and Hades tonight. Strangely enough, I got almost 0 taste out of the Samurai. It almost felt like I was drinking water. Loved the Hades though; it wasn't too sweet like most other Belgians I've tried.

Still have to try the Titan and DPA, but those are for another night!

Samurai is a rice ale. It's supposed be really light, and not very strong. I used to get it on really hot days if I wanted refreshment during daylight hours.

I really recommend Colette for a lighter summertime Great Divide beer.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

funkybottoms posted:

please can we not talk about pumpkin beer again

air- and Munkaboo, be careful opening bottles of Blue Mountain Isabel, they had a lot of severe gushers. didn't care for it on draft, but if you want a seriously coffee-rear end beer, go for it. also, enjoy all the Blue Mountain that they're shipping up your way instead of Richmond- went to a bottle-share last night and some shop/bar owners and a distributor rep were all complaining about how lovely BM (pun intended) has been about getting beer to our market lately (with the exception of the new Barrel House stuff).

Thanks for the heads up... im most looking forward to my full nelson cans

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Kraven Moorhed posted:

Uinta's Dubhe Black IPA is fantastic, by the way, and has a gorgeous bottle/label design:

I'm usually not one to collect bottles (unless I'm brewing) but I'm almost compelled to keep one of these around just to look at it.

I thought Dubhe was okay, but not my favorite of their summer seasonals. Baba - which has a neat label if you like sheep silhouettes - is a fantastic Bohemian-style dark lager and was my go-to beer for bar outings until the keg kicked at my local. I want that beer year-round.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Yeah, thanks for that heads up. I think I saw that at my local store last night too.

:siren: Had a Love Child #2 and if you can get it, DRINK IT NOW. :siren:
I felt like I was taking a bath in a field of sour cherries. The smell just goes on and on. Deep tartness but not as intense as Schaerbeekse Kriek. Lots of lacto, vanilla, brett, and bourbon flavor.

Oh yeah, two failures on the collaboration beer front:

New Belgium/Lost Abbey Brett Beer (22 oz LoF bottle): drainpoured. Soft carbonation and really minimal on the brett. It may as well have been like a slightly tart blonde ale with a little sorachi ace thrown in.

Maui/Jolly Pumpkin Sobrehumano Palena'ole (black can from Maui): I got a lot more toasty malts kinda like the Coconut Porter as opposed to any semblance of tartness. If anything, it was some kinda muddled fruit flavor somewhere in there. It's a weird mix of fruit a la Magic Hat #9. Plus it was $6 for two cans - gently caress that noise. Reviews seem to say that the JP version is far better, so Sirotan, ShaneB, etc, please post up your thoughts!

air- fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jul 3, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

air- posted:

:siren: Had a Love Child #2 and if you can get it, DRINK IT NOW. :siren:
I felt like I was taking a bath in a field of sour cherries. The smell just goes on and on. Deep tartness but not as intense as Schaerbeekse Kriek. Lots of lacto, vanilla, brett, and bourbon flavor.

Buddy of mine had one this weekend at a bar near Rockford, IL of all places... He's still raving about it.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


air- posted:

Maui/Jolly Pumpkin Sobrehumano Palena'ole (black can from Maui): I got a lot more toasty malts kinda like the Coconut Porter as opposed to any semblance of tartness. If anything, it was some kinda muddled fruit flavor somewhere in there. It's a weird mix of fruit a la Magic Hat #9. Plus it was $6 for two cans - gently caress that noise. Reviews seem to say that the JP version is far better, so Sirotan, ShaneB, etc, please post up your thoughts!

At $18 a bottle its definitely pricey, but has the characteristic Jolly Pumpkin "funk" and a nice tart flavor. I've had it on tap and from the bottle and I think its pretty fantastic. Are you somewhere that you can get the Maui cans off the shelf? I'd be interested in setting up a trade so that I could try them side by side. Could send a bottle of the JP version.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Sirotan posted:

At $18 a bottle its definitely pricey, but has the characteristic Jolly Pumpkin "funk" and a nice tart flavor. I've had it on tap and from the bottle and I think its pretty fantastic. Are you somewhere that you can get the Maui cans off the shelf? I'd be interested in setting up a trade so that I could try them side by side. Could send a bottle of the JP version.

Aw man, would have been great to do that! These cans were the last two I saw at the Whole Foods in DC and I just kinda stumbled into it while wandering around on Sunday. Will keep on the lookout and shoot you a PM if I run into any more though. My go-to store hasn't gotten it yet.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?
Drank my first Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek last night. Bottled May 31, 2009 - it had a distinct vinegary smell. Not overpowering, but definitely there, and carried over slightly to the taste. Would this be a normal component, or a product of oxidization? It didn't take away (much) from the beer, but it was noticeable. It was also basically uncarbed.

Ridiculously tart to begin with, but very smooth in the mouth with the cherries coming through as I held it, then finished off with another blast of tart as I swallowed. Very, very wine like, especially with the basically non-existent carbonation.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


air- posted:

Aw man, would have been great to do that! These cans were the last two I saw at the Whole Foods in DC and I just kinda stumbled into it while wandering around on Sunday. Will keep on the lookout and shoot you a PM if I run into any more though. My go-to store hasn't gotten it yet.

Ok, sounds good. I don't even need 6 either, I'd be happy with three with the rest made up of some other Maui beer if you get it, I've only ever had the Coconut Porter.

Kosher man
May 8, 2002

Retemnav posted:

Drank my first Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek last night. Bottled May 31, 2009 - it had a distinct vinegary smell. Not overpowering, but definitely there, and carried over slightly to the taste. Would this be a normal component, or a product of oxidization? It didn't take away (much) from the beer, but it was noticeable. It was also basically uncarbed.

Ridiculously tart to begin with, but very smooth in the mouth with the cherries coming through as I held it, then finished off with another blast of tart as I swallowed. Very, very wine like, especially with the basically non-existent carbonation.

Vinegar is usually a sign of Acetobacter, a producer of acetic acid. This can be found in lambic but most blenders try to blend it out but it will show up from time to time. I get it all the time in Cantillon though rarely ever in 3 font.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

I bought an Ithaca 14th Anniversary for my friend's 4th of July party. I was told it was very good by the couple who was ahead of me in line, are they right?

I was about to buy Unibroue Terrible but this is for America's day.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
This is probably bullshit, but my dad talked with some guy from the Charlottesville area and said that Stone is thinking about putting a brewery in the area where Devil's Backbone is... thoughts?

Kosher man
May 8, 2002
bullllllllllllshiiiiiiitttt

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Stone is still building out their expansion in Escondido, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in rumors of expanding elsewhere in the near future.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Kosher man posted:

Vinegar is usually a sign of Acetobacter, a producer of acetic acid. This can be found in lambic but most blenders try to blend it out but it will show up from time to time. I get it all the time in Cantillon though rarely ever in 3 font.

I get a lot of acetic acid in Flanders Red Ales, but I think its more called for in that style.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

bartolimu posted:

Stone is still building out their expansion in Escondido, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in rumors of expanding elsewhere in the near future.

Their super-long term expansion had them opening up a brewery in Europe, but that hasn't panned out despite them looking at a number of different cities and countries. I don't think doing anything on the east coast is in their plans, especially since they're usually not coy with their expansion plans (i.e. we tend to hear about everything they've done at least 6-18 months before they do it).

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


I heartily approve of the thread title change.

To keep it on topic, I am about to drink a Uinta's Dubhe Black IPA that I picked up in Chicago when I was there the other week. Like Kraven Moorhed, the artwork appealed to me, and I've never had anything from Uinta. My track record with black IPAs isn't good though....keeping an open mind.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

wattershed posted:

Their super-long term expansion had them opening up a brewery in Europe, but that hasn't panned out despite them looking at a number of different cities and countries. I don't think doing anything on the east coast is in their plans, especially since they're usually not coy with their expansion plans (i.e. we tend to hear about everything they've done at least 6-18 months before they do it).

A lot of breweries are trying to buy up European breweries in order to take all the equipment and ship it back to the US. Ballast Point is intending to open a third facility by buying some closed-up German brewery and sending all the brewing stuff back to some yet un-located San Diego facility.

Speaking of Stone, I had the 10th Anniv. Ruiniation and good god was it bitter. It was pretty good actually but it was flirting really, really close to the line of tolerable bitterness.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 3, 2012

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Sirotan posted:

To keep it on topic, I am about to drink a Uinta's Dubhe Black IPA that I picked up in Chicago when I was there the other week. Like Kraven Moorhed, the artwork appealed to me, and I've never had anything from Uinta. My track record with black IPAs isn't good though....keeping an open mind.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. From what I've heard, Uinta and other Utah breweries have a good track record with IPAs. I had a Hop Notch IPA from Uinta and it was very good. I wish I could say the same thing about their Golden Spike, which is a pretty weak hefeweizen.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
man, i was too busy drinking to be all talking about it!

(not my picture, and i believe the total count was 30 bottles between eight of us. worst beers were Great Divide Wolfgang and Almanac Spring 2012 Bière De Mars, highlights were probably Cuvee de Tomme, three-year old bourbon barrel Angel's Share, and Haandbakk)

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Sirotan posted:

I've never had anything from Uinta.

I think their standards are pretty unspectacular, but their Crooked Line stuff is generally very good, especially Labyrinth.

RE: Black IPAs... Grand Teton's Trout Hop was something special but while looking it up just now, BA is reporting it retired. Sucks.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I'm heading home with a mixed 6er and a bomber. What order should I drink these in?
New Belgium Abbey
N.B. Ranger
Great Divide DPA
Sierra Nevada PA
O'Fallon Smoked Porter
FW Union Jack
FW Reserve Porter

I'm all over the place tonight.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


danbanana posted:

I think their standards are pretty unspectacular, but their Crooked Line stuff is generally very good, especially Labyrinth.
I'd say this is accurate for the most part, with the exception of Baba which I already gushed about.

Captain Shortbus, I'd probably go:
Abbey
Sierra Nevada PA
Ranger
Great Divide
Union Jack
Smoked Porter
Reserve Porter

You're never wrong capping off the evening with Firestone Walker. Unless of course you're too drunk to appreciate it.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

That's pretty much my plan. I didn't want to follow a porter with something bitter like an IPA.
Thanks!

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


It's so hot and awful out that all I want to drink is PBR and Bud Light Lime. I poo poo you not. Blime is fabulous: 4% beer soda that never dehydrates you the way Miller Lite and Budweiser seem to. I drank it for 24 hours straight at my buddy's lake house the other weekend and was never dehydrated OR drunk, so I consider that a success.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

ShaneB posted:

It's so hot and awful out that all I want to drink is PBR and Bud Light Lime. I poo poo you not. Blime is fabulous: 4% beer soda that never dehydrates you the way Miller Lite and Budweiser seem to. I drank it for 24 hours straight at my buddy's lake house the other weekend and was never dehydrated OR drunk, so I consider that a success.
Having been introduced to dumping loads of citrus fruit in water in the south, I can totally see how lime flavor would improve Bud Light for hot weather.

I was going to pick up some PBR to be all American for the 4th but I spent the afternoon baking in the sun gawking at a 70ft trailer being maneuvered around and had no real want to stop by the store on the way home.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I have to admit that I do like a near-freezing Bud Light Lime when it is nine billion degrees outside. Or a Kolsch. I had the day off yesterday and ended a pretty long hike with two pints of Harpoon Summer. Probably one of only a handful of times that I actually appreciated the frosted mug. There's definitely a time and place for everything.

Even Pumking :colbert:

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

I noticed Victory Summer Love in Colorado for the first time recently. Maybe it was out here before but I hadn't seen it. Anyway, holy crap this beer owns, maybe my new favorite summer seasonal. Light, crisp, refeshing, lemony... I want to drink this by the gallon.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Docjowles posted:

God drat. When it is literally over 100 outside, a syrupy rear end pumpkin beer is about the last thing on my mind. Save that for October.

What pisses me off is by the time Fall hits, all the Pumking is sold out. You can't find them here by the end of October. When it's a beer that would be best in the winter.

And sorry for talking about Pumpkin beer, but summer is literally my least favorite season for seasonal beers. I've never had a good summer beer.

escape artist fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jul 4, 2012

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
This year's crop of saison-inspired summer beer is pretty good, I think. Some nice, sessionable stuff that's light and crisp.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Victory Summer Love rules, though I just tend to drink lower alcohol beers in summer rather than drinking summer seasonals. I've been super into malty but not strong lagers lately. Eliot Ness is near perfect for summer for me.

edit: Just came back with a bottle of Founders Frangelic Mountain Brown. I stopped at a Whole Foods and asked about it, and they said that there was a rumour that the coffee used to make it was artificially flavoured. Was kind of surprised at that and wound up leaving empty handed. Went to my local store and got the bottle, and sure enough, on the left side, there it is: "Brown ale brewed with artificially flavoured hazelnut coffee."

edit 2: The same store had Bruery Fruet, but is there any way in hell that's worth $35 a bomber?

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jul 4, 2012

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

ShaneB posted:

It's so hot and awful out that all I want to drink is PBR and Bud Light Lime. I poo poo you not. Blime is fabulous: 4% beer soda that never dehydrates you the way Miller Lite and Budweiser seem to. I drank it for 24 hours straight at my buddy's lake house the other weekend and was never dehydrated OR drunk, so I consider that a success.

I'd rather drink Gatorade or something else than a low alcohol beer that's not getting me drunk, at least I'm drinking something that's re-hydrating me. I mean 32 ounce Gatorade's for $1 or 72 ounces of Bud Light Lime for $6.99? Easy decision for me. I just don't see the point in buying a case of a beer to drink all day for the sake of drinking with my pals, if I'm not getting drunk then I'm going to drink something non-alcoholic, unless it's to enjoy the flavor.

crazyfish posted:

edit 2: The same store had Bruery Fruet, but is there any way in hell that's worth $35 a bomber?

I don't know but I have two. I hope they don't suck.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jul 4, 2012

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

bartolimu posted:



You're never wrong capping off the evening with Firestone Walker. Unless of course you're too drunk to appreciate it.
Holy hell you were right. Union Jack is the first IPA I've ever enjoyed, and the Reserve Porter is phenomenal. It makes me want Parabola even more. Firestone Walker is officially in the rotation.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I think Firestone's Porter is their weakest beer they brew, I would take Founders Porter or Edmund Fitzgerald over it 10 out of 10 times.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Midorka posted:

I think Firestone's Porter is their weakest beer they brew, I would take Founders Porter or Edmund Fitzgerald over it 10 out of 10 times.
My LBS carries Founder's porter, and it is next on my list. I just found FW locally, so I had to try it. It was Porter or Double Jack, and with my IPA history, I went Porter. No Edmund Fitzgerald here, unfortunately.

Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jul 4, 2012

Watsabi
Jul 4, 2012
Does anybody dare trying the bizarre flavors?



I tried one of these Voodoo Donut Bacon Maple Ales. Inspired by the local Donut place here in Portland and their signature donut. Luckily I was not the only one that had to suffer through this abomination of flavors.

Only way I can describe it is if you took a bottle of syrup, added some bacon drippings, and topped it off with beer. That would about sum it up. I don't regret trying it but I will not be getting it ever again.

I can't believe I paid $22 for a pink beer bottle. :blush:

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Watsabi posted:

I can't believe I paid $22 for a pink beer bottle. :gay:
Fixed :hehe:

Speaking of beers that taste like breakfast foods, the next time any of you want a beer with breakfast, I'd recommend Bromigo Smoked Maple Amber by Three Heads Brewing. It's like drinking a smoky breakfast sausage.

Josh Wow
Feb 28, 2005

We need more beer up here!

Midorka posted:

I'd rather drink Gatorade or something else than a low alcohol beer that's not getting me drunk, at least I'm drinking something that's re-hydrating me.

This is what beer is all about, if it doesn't get you drunk then what's the point?

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danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

edit: Just came back with a bottle of Founders Frangelic Mountain Brown. I stopped at a Whole Foods and asked about it, and they said that there was a rumour that the coffee used to make it was artificially flavoured. Was kind of surprised at that and wound up leaving empty handed. Went to my local store and got the bottle, and sure enough, on the left side, there it is: "Brown ale brewed with artificially flavoured hazelnut coffee."

Glad you found it. I snagged a 4-pack of Devil Dancer at that WF and then ran to West Lakeview... Holy poo poo. That might be the best bottle shop I've ever been in. They had a bottle of Parabola (bought!) and probably 50 other things I wanted to try but held back on, including bottles of 50/50 (though they were $32 each). Did end up snagging an Oude Kriek, just because.

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