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bull3964 posted:Some sort of image persistence is going to be unavoidable on IPS displays. We'll just have to see how bad it really is on the shipping units. Is this specific to very high dpi displays? I definitely haven't seen any image retention on my ips desktop monitors or television.
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dissss posted:Is this specific to very high dpi displays? I definitely haven't seen any image retention on my ips desktop monitors or television. From what I understand, it can get exasperated by heat. So, it's likely not so much the DPI, but the compact packaging we have going on with these gadgets.
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https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/6eWwQvFGLV8 Dianne Hackborn just posted a bit about the Nexus 7's screen and how Android 4.1 works on it. She states it's not exactly a smaller 10" version of the OS nor is it like the phone version of JB.
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XIII posted:I was the same way. Always thought tablets were kinda cool, but had no interesting in owning one. Then, I heard "Nexus" and "tablet" in the same sentence and it grabbed my attention. Then, they said, "$200" and, suddenly, I couldn't loving wait to get one. (even though I'll spring for the 16G). I feel exactly the same way. There just wasn't anything out there to make me bite until now. iPads were too high, Kindles don't work outside the US and are too closed... Android I didn't feel was ready until 4.0 (and 4.1 just improves on that). Now that I see Google properly backing tablets in a way that satisfies my illogical, reptile, brain, I feel I can go for it. 16gb Nexus 7 pre-ordered to Vancouver, BC. Total cost, inc. shipping was $310 if you're wondering.
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ThermoPhysical posted:https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/6eWwQvFGLV8 What 10"  devices are there out to compare it to? 
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Cakefool posted:What 10" I think it may be a follow up to the question she answered at I/O about Jelly Bean looking like it does on the Nexus 7 on 10" devices as well. She said no, but I guess she's elaborating more.
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ThermoPhysical posted:http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/03/the-nexus-7-has-surprisingly-bad-display-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/ That stories been updated since you posted it: quote:We've received a response from ASUS that they're unable to replicate the problem on production units (I/O units are, technically, pre-production), so this may have been sorted out in time for the initial consumer run. It appears, then, that this problem is at least affecting only some units. Cakefool posted:What 10" The Motorola Xoom was Google's previous reference tablet, so it's probably what shes referring to since its due to get 4.1 alongside the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus in mid-July. They actually revealed offhand in a design session on I/O Day three that a lot of the initial development work for the Nexus 7 was done on Xooms modified to run at a cropped resolution (presumably until the initial Nexus 7 prototypes were complete). Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Jul 4, 2012 |
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Vagrancy posted:That stories been updated since you posted it: Like others have said I am ridiculously hyped over the N7 even though a day before GIO I didn't even consider that I wanted a tablet. Everything about it is perfect for me: pure Android, decent specs, great price, and the right size to hold in one hand. In a country where the Kindle Fire doesn't exist (UK) I don't see anything else to compete with it. Release date cannot come soon enough!
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If the problem is heat related it could be down to the white backplate being more heat reflective than the black one on retail models. If it acts as an insulator then it could reflect some heat back inside, instead of spreading it across the outer shell of the device.
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ThermoPhysical posted:https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/6eWwQvFGLV8 If I'm reading her post correctly, this simply implies that there's no binary 'small (phoneUI)' -> 'big (tabletUI)' interface option, and that Jellybean will instead use the display resolution to pick and choose which display elements are used. This is why the Nexus 7 uses the centred system bar, and not the slightly different layout as seen on HC/ICS tablets. That said, there's probably some nutcase over at XDA rocking the tablet UI on his Galaxy Nexus just because he can.
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The OS is aware of both the resolution and screen size, so it's able to calculate DPI. So, 1280x800 at 10.1 in gets a different layout than 1280x800 at 7 in which is a different layout still from 1280x720 at 4.65 in.
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Android has a concept of "dp units" which are used to arrange the layout (by apps which bother to account for different screen sizes, anyway) and are independent of the screen's actual resolution.
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Is the Android app ecosystem still pretty limited in terms of well-designed, tablet specific apps? That's what's stopping me from springing for a Nexus 7.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Is the Android app ecosystem still pretty limited in terms of well-designed, tablet specific apps? That's what's stopping me from springing for a Nexus 7. Yes.
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Any good app to get wallpaper formatted to 1200x800? Zedge is nice, but the wallpapers seem lower res and with a bit of pixalisation Will check out Wallpaper HD when I get home.
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vonManstein posted:Any good app to get wallpaper formatted to 1200x800? Interfacelift.com has been amazing for really high quality wallpapers that I've used for my phone and my brothers tablet. Don't think they have an app though.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Is the Android app ecosystem still pretty limited in terms of well-designed, tablet specific apps? That's what's stopping me from springing for a Nexus 7. Have a look at http://www.tablified.com/ to get some idea of what's available.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Is the Android app ecosystem still pretty limited in terms of well-designed, tablet specific apps? That's what's stopping me from springing for a Nexus 7. Rastor posted:Android has a concept of "dp units" which are used to arrange the layout (by apps which bother to account for different screen sizes, anyway) and are independent of the screen's actual resolution. Rastor posted:In comparison to iPad, there aren't as many tablet-formatted apps. There definitely are some great tablet apps available though. Have a look at http://www.tablified.com/ to get some idea of what's available. "Yapı Kredi Mobil Bankacılık HDMake your life easier with Yapı Kredi Mobile Banking application!Yapı Kredi Mobil Bankacılık uygulaması ile hayatınızı kolaylaştırın! Bu uygulama ile Android Tablet kullanıcıları; Yapı ..."
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Is the Android app ecosystem still pretty limited in terms of well-designed, tablet specific apps? That's what's stopping me from springing for a Nexus 7. With a 7in I'd think that more apps would work even with the phoneUI, not all but they'd look better than on a 10in at least.
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Matias Duarte talks a bit on tablet specific applications with his interview on The Verge. The tablet app part starts around 5:10 in. http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3126644/matias-duarte-on-android-4-1-jelly-bean-and-the-nexus-7 The long and the short of it is, he doesn't want tablet specific apps. He wants apps to use dynamic layout elements such that they respond appropriately to the DPI of the device. The current Google+ is a good example of this. A 10.1" tablet, 7" tablet, and 4.65" phone are all going to have different layouts even though they have the same screen resolution.
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bull3964 posted:Matias Duarte talks a bit on tablet specific applications with his interview on The Verge. The tablet app part starts around 5:10 in.
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randyest posted:Are there any non-google app examples of this working well? Awful app, Netflix, HBO Go, Kindle, Nook, Flixter, and IMDB are a few that come to mind off the bat.
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Most apps made for phones stretch gracefully to fill a tablet screen. I can't think of any that are lessened by being used on a tablet.
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Kynetx posted:Most apps made for phones stretch gracefully to fill a tablet screen. I can't think of any that are lessened by being used on a tablet. What? Did this suddenly stop being a problem in the last 6 months I haven't owned an Android tablet? 
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Maker Of Shoes posted:What? Did this suddenly stop being a problem in the last 6 months I haven't owned an Android tablet? It's...beautiful  How can an app as mainstream as Twitter look so lovely? I mean c'mon man!
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Twitter has always cared as much for Android as Facebook does. I've been using Plume since Eclair, and it works in a tablet fine. I guess you could argue that Android is poo poo because a company as popular as Twitter can't be assed to make quality software for the thing, but the only reason they had a quality iOS app is because they bought a third party developer outright, and now everyone there has switched to TweetBot since one of the various "New Twitter" relaunches. As the fate of TweetDeck and Tweetie bore out, it turns out the life of an official app is a depressing one no matter who is in charge. Users are better served by independent software relying on an open API since features (including also posting to Facebook) aren't removed and updates seem more common. One would think being absorbed into the official Twitter menagerie would make a good app even better, but it doesn't. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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ilkhan posted:Any info on when exactly the Nexus 7 will start shipping? Somewhere around the 19th.. http://omgdroid.com/nexus-7-shipping-and-release-dates-revealed/
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bull3964 posted:Matias Duarte talks a bit on tablet specific applications with his interview on The Verge. The tablet app part starts around 5:10 in. Madness! How else can developers sell ExampleApp at 0.99 and ExampleApp HD at 2.50?
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Maker Of Shoes posted:What? Did this suddenly stop being a problem in the last 6 months I haven't owned an Android tablet? I... what's the problem? Does something not work?
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Kynetx posted:I... what's the problem? Does something not work?
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Kynetx posted:I... what's the problem? Does something not work? It's not taking advantage of the screen real estate. There's enough space to show the full navigation, message list and the details view on the same screen, whereas the layout which hasn't been optimized will keep them compressed/separate screens. Best way to illustrate is a random screenshot of the iPad version from Image Search:  Whilst a 7 inch tablet like the Nexus 7 since can just about get away with using a smaller screen layout, larger screened Android tablets don't have that luxury since it's that much more noticeable. This is probably a key reason (aside from cost) why Google chose the form factor they did, since the Nexus 7 can easily subsist on the existing app ecosystem without too much discomfort whilst at the same time driving the adoption of tablet optimized layouts. Only time will tell if their gambit works or not. Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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dedian posted:Somewhere around the 19th.. Hmm, interesting. I'm going to be out of two for two weeks starting that Saturday. I wonder if I should just cancel my pre-order and pick it up in stores when it drops on the 27th. I won't be home until the 30th, and I don't want it to sit outside my house for a week.
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Install Gentoo posted:That version looks way cramped to me. You can pull the slides to show more or less information.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Hmm, interesting. I'm going to be out of two for two weeks starting that Saturday. I wonder if I should just cancel my pre-order and pick it up in stores when it drops on the 27th. I won't be home until the 30th, and I don't want it to sit outside my house for a week. Is it going to be in stores?
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