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The Locator posted:
NRE is about the most amazing shop going right now. gently caress Hennessey, gently caress Lingenfelter, gently caress all that poo poo....Tom Nelson is where it's at. I've been following him for years, and it's amazing that he went from tuning "normal" engines to having a shop that can produce complete engines from a block of billet. He's amazing. That's a Nelson Racing Engines Hemi, it's completely theirs from the block on up. Even the turbos are their design. "1614 loving foot pounds!" e- In the related vids, behind the scenes of a crazy drag crash Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jul 4, 2012 |
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rcman50166 posted:Here's a good timelapse of someone rebuilding an engine. The Scientist posted:Awesome time lapse of a dude tearing down his crate engine, cleaning it, then reassembling it. Someone doesn't read the thread 
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Jul 4, 2012 19:57
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Watch all of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFqSjjnte0
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A nice fluff piece about the Renault A110 at 50 with it's younger, fatter, louder offspring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-11A-FtTibs
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Holy poo poo, in the first clip I though "Oh good thing it's a remote camera location with no one there" and then 
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Sweden has the best hill climb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HXvSsoYwio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GcHNl2aiA
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The Locator posted:Sweden has the best hill climb. Oversteer, oversteer, oversteer, oversteer, understeer, oversteer, oversteer, oversteer, two strokes, oversteer, oversteer, oversteer, oversteer.
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A slow paced but good driving video on the GT86, from the Toyobaru thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYrvhkIivgA Chris Harris drives and compares the GT500 and ZL1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrhW6W7eZDI
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That 86 video is awesome. The presenter is really affable and humble. It's also stupidly well shot and edited.
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kimbo305 posted:
I don't know if Chris knew you could lower the Mustang seat... his position looked bizarre in that video
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kimbo305 posted:Chris Harris drives and compares the GT500 and ZL1: This is the Monticello Motor Club, F1 passed on this track for the one in Austin.
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kimbo305 posted:A slow paced but good driving video on the GT86, from the Toyobaru thread: That Toyota 86 review is fantastic. The presenter is surprisingly good, editing is awesome (better than Drive, amusingly) and just generally a good time to watch. Sort of want a Hungarian Top Gear now. Chris Harris apparently can't adjust a seat. That looked horribly uncomfortable, though I do like his conclusion. e: Same guy from the GT86 review doing a NSX homage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlaWp4bCl1A Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 22:40
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VikingSkull posted:This is the Monticello Motor Club, F1 passed on this track for the one in Austin. I thought it had to do with the lack of infrastructure for spectators and parking and such? When I went there in 2010 it was basically a tent in a gravel parking lot (plus the 4.5 mile track). From looking at the website the facilities seem much more legit now, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xztMgB3Moqo GT3RS 4.0 laps Leguna Seca in 1:33
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Yeticopter posted:I thought it had to do with the lack of infrastructure for spectators and parking and such? When I went there in 2010 it was basically a tent in a gravel parking lot (plus the 4.5 mile track). From looking at the website the facilities seem much more legit now, though. Well, it was, but Austin didn't even exist yet. Thing is, it was all open, like you said. They could have built whatever they wanted. When they first built the place here I remember looking at the idea behind it and didn't even give them a year. However, MMC seems to be popping up in tons of places now, so hopefully sometime soon I'll have a big time sanctioned road course race less than a half hour from me.
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VikingSkull posted:Well, it was, but Austin didn't even exist yet. Thing is, it was all open, like you said. They could have built whatever they wanted. I mean, I guess being just shy of 2 hours from NYC is pretty good, but being right next to Austin which is a well known weird, progressive, cool city (especially as far as Texas goes) is probably better for their purposes.
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NY is getting one supposedly anyway next year, I'm just lazy and don't want to travel  Monticello isn't even what they wanted if they are looking for urban backgrounds, it's all forest and mountains up here. If this was 1966 it would be perfect!
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Bumming Your Scene posted:I don't know if Chris knew you could lower the Mustang seat... his position looked bizarre in that video I'm sure he thought of that, maybe the recaro seats are terrible? kimbo305 posted:Chris Harris drives and compares the GT500 and ZL1: I like how he doesn't really say one is better than the other, but just lists their strengths and weaknesses. It'll be interesting to see what happens in a few years when Ford finally drops the live axle for an IRS.
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Rabble posted:I'm sure he thought of that, maybe the recaro seats are terrible? Yeah, I'd think chances are slim that no one in the whole review team wouldn't have suggested finding the lowering button. I recall feeling pretty low (felt like I couldn't see over the midpoint of the hood) when I sat in a '11 GT, though, and I don't think Harris is that tall.
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Motortrend review has the same problem with the seats... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF-db7bX9LI ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQatnFUA3E The split second save was impressive, the recovery brought it over the top.
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Yeticopter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xztMgB3Moqo I'd heard about this. Apparently it was a stock car on R6s. loving amazing. All I have to say to that is nor-cal porsche owners can be loving nuts. One track day I went to, someone offloaded a GT3 cup. Shortly after, his coach showed up. None other than Johannes Vanoverbeek. Now you are saying "Well anyone can hire a ALMS driver for a day.". He had his name stenciled on to the side of the car prefixed with "Driver Coach:" .
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Rabble posted:I'm sure he thought of that, maybe the recaro seats are terrible? The one problem I have with GT500 reviews is how they handle the axle. The Camaro was designed specifically with road courses and driving in mind, the whole idea of the Shelby is more smokey burnouts and dragstrip launches. I mean, that's why the new Shelby has launch control, something Harris never even mentions. The live axle is actually there because most of the people who buy them that would care want it for drag racing. 9 times out of 10 when a pony or muscle car hits a track, it's a dragstrip and not a road course.
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VikingSkull posted:The one problem I have with GT500 reviews is how they handle the axle. The Camaro was designed specifically with road courses and driving in mind, the whole idea of the Shelby is more smokey burnouts and dragstrip launches. I mean, that's why the new Shelby has launch control, something Harris never even mentions. The live axle is actually there because most of the people who buy them that would care want it for drag racing. 9 times out of 10 when a pony or muscle car hits a track, it's a dragstrip and not a road course. And yet there's other big hp RWD road cars with IRS that are just as handy with big fat burnouts or a dragstrip. And even better they work much better on the 99% of where the car is used - on the road. The live rear axle is just lazy engineering now and it shows.
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kimbo305 posted:Yeah, I'd think chances are slim that no one in the whole review team wouldn't have suggested finding the lowering button. I recall feeling pretty low (felt like I couldn't see over the midpoint of the hood) when I sat in a '11 GT, though, and I don't think Harris is that tall. I believe he's 5'4".
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Cat Terrist posted:The live rear axle is just lazy engineering now and it shows. No, it's cost engineering. They've done IRS on the late-00s Cobra, it added thousands to the cost of the chassis with no significant benefit for the vast majority of Mustang owners. Some of those IRS cars were even converted back to live axle because a live axle is a shitload harder to break on the drag strip. Remember that the current 5.0 Mustang holds its own against the M3 on a number of tracks. Also remember that it's a muscle car, not a sports car. A live rear axle certainly isn't the ideal suspension layout, especially on a bumpy track, but it does well enough for the kind of car this is to not justify the significant cost of changing. I can all but guarantee that there are IRS test mules for this generation of Mustang. They're not ignoring it, they just don't see the value yet.
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Cat Terrist posted:And yet there's other big hp RWD road cars with IRS that are just as handy with big fat burnouts or a dragstrip. And even better they work much better on the 99% of where the car is used - on the road. Here CT let me give you a list of the <100k cars you can buy from the factory that will go into the 9s with just a tune and some slicks: -2013 GT500 -GTR Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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But the fractionally cheaper Camaro has IRS, and if the engine is a detuned Corvette ZR1 lump, wouldn't it have similar power to the Mustang had they left it as-is? It's a moot point. For the cost of something else with equivalent performance, I could just buy one of each.
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Muffinpox posted:Here CT let me give you a list of the <100k cars you can buy from the factory that will go into the 9s with just a tune and some slicks: GTR is 110K new, now. But you know what? Who gives a poo poo about drag racing? It's loving dumb. IRS 4 lyfe!!111
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Cat Terrist posted:And yet there's other big hp RWD road cars with IRS that are just as handy with big fat burnouts or a dragstrip. And even better they work much better on the 99% of where the car is used - on the road. Basically anything running 10's or lower are just fine with a straight axle and a 4 link. Easier to fix, cheaper, and you gain no advantage by using an IRS setup. Here, have some Hemi burnouts. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Muffinpox posted:Here CT let me give you a list of the <100k cars you can buy from the factory that will go into the 9s with just a tune and some slicks: And that answers my point..... how?
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wolrah posted:No, it's cost engineering. They've done IRS on the late-00s Cobra, it added thousands to the cost of the chassis with no significant benefit for the vast majority of Mustang owners. Some of those IRS cars were even converted back to live axle because a live axle is a shitload harder to break on the drag strip. I don't even think it's cost engineering. I think the live axle is a selling point with a good portion of the demographic that wants that car. Give the customer what they want....
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CT's argument is that an IRS setup will still do better on a drag strip than a live axle will on a track (or the road). I'm not going to directly get onto that, but I am interested in coming at it from the side: If you're designing one car with an eye towards standing starts up a quarter mile, and another with more of a bias to cornering, aren't there other ways that you're going to lean to one or the other in your suspension design? I'd imagine that for drag racing you'd want to maintain maximum square-on contact patch under squat, for example, even if you have to sacrifice camber behaviour or whatever to achieve it, and the opposite being true if you're concerned about the twisties. Not that you're just going to fall off the road if moved from one environment to the other, but I suspect that rather than it simply being a case if IRS or not, it's more about the design philosophy that led to it. Would a Mustang with IRS, but still primarily intended to thump its way off the line on a short run, be substantially better than a live axle car on turns? Or would it just be a little bit better? Little enough that taking that same live axle setup and gearing it towards road work would yield a better end result?
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0:45 that's not a Hemi! Hey, who let that guy in here anyway?
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Cat Terrist posted:And that answers my point..... how? There's lazy engineering and there is cost engineering. There's 0 reason to add IRS to the GT500, it's already more capable at the drag strip than any car within 2x the MSRP. It's a fat grand tourer you can rip up the drag strip with, not a single purposed track machine. Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Muffinpox posted:There's lazy engineering and there is cost engineering. There's 0 reason to add IRS to the GT500, it's already more capable at the drag strip than any car within 2x the MSRP. It's a fat grand tourer you can rip up the drag strip with, not a single purposed track machine. This is a silly argument and a GT500 having a live axle rear suspension is both a lazy engineering and a cost engineering failure.
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The GT500 is a pretty cool car that looks and sounds pretty good and I would probably really enjoy driving the poo poo out of one. Thats my opinion.
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Billy Johnson, who races a lot of cars including a Mustang in Grand Am, had some interesting commentary about the solid axle awhile back: http://www.timeattackforums.com/forums/redline-time-attack/3818-rta-driver-billy-johnson-racing-nascar-watkins-glen-5.html#post46162
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Sorry, not buying it. I'll continue getting my auto knowledge from youtube comments.
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Sorry, not buying it. I'll continue getting my auto knowledge from youtube comments. Let me share you a few wisdom nuggets from my Youtube channel: From a video where the description states the car is supercharged and has a 540ci V8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4KY5_nO_o quote:Just guessin but this is probably an Iron Block LS series engine which can handle over 2000 HP without the block spitting in half which is critical if you want the engine to last. I have a 1999 T/A with 363000 miles on it..and the only thing I have had to do to the engine is replace some water pumps and install some new plugs and wires. The old bird will still lay down some nice 60ft marks in second gear. Mobil 1 and shiftin under 6 grand is the key to stock LS1 longevity and happiness... quote:14 inch wide tires would do just fine my pro street c10 has a narrowed 9 inch with 15x15 inch slicks and it takes corners just fine some times one sides spins out due to it bein a full spool 4:11 geared rear end but ive never had any handling issues quote:Of... I love tires thanks. I could easily have a 1000 hp Trans Am. I have a project Forumla Firebird. 1000+ hp is unnecessary. I am not jealous just logical. :/ quote:all this car needs is minni tubs and a set or 14x16 inch slicks on senterline wheels and it wouldnt keep breaking the tires loose and all of the power will hit the ground
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Dude should have been black-flagged for putting down those smoke-screens in front of other cars like that.
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