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Cool Buff Man posted:Yeah definitely let's speculate about which rap boys like to get naked with other boys and kiss them too This.. TenaciousTomato posted:Lold IRL and, this. Made my summer. That is all.
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Shite summer if that is all.
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ICA posted:Shite summer if that is all. Agreed. That is all.
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I don't know if there's any funk volume fans on here but I saw Jarren Benton last night and he was killer. I wasn't sold on him when I heard he got signed but the dude has some serious talent. After the show, not a single person left for at least an hour, I've never seen anything like that. I really love those small underground shows where everyone is really into the music. Drunken Lullabies fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jul 9, 2012 |
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Well Frank Ocean's Channel Orange is up on iTunes, and it's all over the drat place. I hope that isn't too much. Hes definitely one of the more weirder artists out there. My friend has been comparing him to Kanye West, not sure if that's accurate yet.
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Confounding Factor posted:Well Frank Ocean's Channel Orange is up on iTunes, and it's all over the drat place. I hope that isn't too much. Hes definitely one of the more weirder artists out there. My friend has been comparing him to Kanye West, not sure if that's accurate yet. I know what you mean, if you ignore that frank ocean isn't a rapper or a producer you can see they are both black.
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Jul 10, 2012 13:07
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Kanye is the Tiger Woods of rap music.
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I don't listen to Frank. But Kanye and him both have a materialistic yet trying to be deep vibe going on. Emotional. But I can't say about Frank for sure.
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Confounding Factor posted:Well Frank Ocean's Channel Orange is up on iTunes, and it's all over the drat place. I hope that isn't too much. Hes definitely one of the more weirder artists out there. I just listened to it, was really hype for - I loved "nostalgia, ULTRA", and 'Pyramids' was this amazing prog-hip-hop joint... it's really, really tepid, aside from the middle third around 'Pyramids', the rest sounds like what I imagine a whole album of John Legend must do. Very disappointed, I wanted it to be good so much, but nah.
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That's how I felt about it; a lot of the production was pretty week. The Earl and Andre3k verses were alright (and probably half the reason I listened to it), but it feels like Frank could make an awesome album if it was all as heavy as pyramids and Novocain. The Aesop album is really good and pretty unique from all his other ones. I really like the near lack of features on it, makes it feel like a whole project a lot more than None Shall Pass and Bazooka Tooth.
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Jul 10, 2012 19:51
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Svartvit posted:Kanye is the Tiger Woods of rap music. I'm not trying to genre-sperg but I don't really think Kanye makes rap music dude.
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Drunken Lullabies posted:I'm not trying to genre-sperg but I don't really think Kanye makes rap music dude. if anything, id say hes hip-pop
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Jul 10, 2012 21:54
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808's is his only really non-rap album. hip-pop makes me think of The Love Below, Cee Lo's solo stuff or Nicki Minaj's popper work (though some of those are just straight pop songs); you know stuff without any real rapping but rooted in hip-hop.
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Harley C posted:I know what you mean, if you ignore that frank ocean isn't a rapper or a producer you can see they are both black. Well think of it this way, Ocean produced at least two of the tracks on Channel Orange--and has ghost written and produced tracks for pop stars for years. So, let's get this right here: both got their start behind the scenes, both emerged as #1 powerhouses basically on the strength of one single (Through The Wire and Novacane) and word of mouth. And crucially, yes, both are black men who captured the zeitgeist to impose their own sense of style onto white and black fans. Think Ye bar sunglasses, backpacks and Christian Doir shoes--then compare those to Ocean's tumblr, taste in vintage cars and r&b hipsterism. These guys are the same story, and both are kings.
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Drunken Lullabies posted:I'm not trying to genre-sperg but I don't really think Kanye makes rap music dude. Fuckin idiot
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snyprmag posted:808's is his only really non-rap album. hip-pop is a dumb thing made up by people who think kanye etc are too mainstream for them to listen to i was just making fun of that dude 
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Confounding Factor posted:Well think of it this way, Ocean produced at least two of the tracks on Channel Orange--and has ghost written and produced tracks for pop stars for years. So, let's get this right here: both got their start behind the scenes, both emerged as #1 powerhouses basically on the strength of one single (Through The Wire and Novacane) and word of mouth. And crucially, yes, both are black men who captured the zeitgeist to impose their own sense of style onto white and black fans. Think Ye bar sunglasses, backpacks and Christian Doir shoes--then compare those to Ocean's tumblr, taste in vintage cars and r&b hipsterism. These guys are the same story, and both are kings. Yes but this equation also works for Cam'ron and Gucci Mane so what's your point
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Hip Gelatinous Cube posted:Been bumping the new Aesop Rock album all day. Goddamn if it isn't the darkest thing I've ever heard from him. The album essentially ends on what sounds like a spoken word admission of guilt and failure with some minimalistic beats in the background. "I have been completely unable to maintain any semblance of relationship on any level." Jesus gently caress. I've had my first listen through and although I see where you're coming from I found Cancer 4 Cure to be a whole lot more emotionally draining. Aesop's album is pretty strong though even with the lack of any Blockhead beats. I'll have to see if there's more standout tracks on second play. I definitely think the Killer Mike and El-P albums which I'm playing to saturation point at the moment flow better and have the differences between tracks to make them long term plays. But hey, I don't think anyone expected another Labour Days at this point from Aesop. Let's just hope we get to hear the Two of Every Animal (Aesop and Cage) album this year as that could be interesting.
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Drunken Lullabies posted:I'm not trying to genre-sperg but I don't really think Kanye makes rap music dude. What the gently caress? Kanye is like the definition of "rap music", except for maybe rick ross. Do you mean "hip hop"?
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Rap Music - n. 1. The thing kanye west does 2. Rick Ross might have done it too
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CrazyScot posted:I've had my first listen through and although I see where you're coming from I found Cancer 4 Cure to be a whole lot more emotionally draining. Aesop's album is pretty strong though even with the lack of any Blockhead beats. I'll have to see if there's more standout tracks on second play. I definitely think the Killer Mike and El-P albums which I'm playing to saturation point at the moment flow better and have the differences between tracks to make them long term plays. Man, to me C4C is waaaaay more fun than this. You can bump even el's paranoia stuff like Drones, and Tougher Colder Killer is an amazingly energetic track. Even the kinda iffy For My Upstairs Neighbor or Sign Here are still tracks with a kind of pulse to them that keeps moving with the album, but would be fine on their own. And R.A.P. Music is so damned full of tracks that oughtta be singles that I'd be eroding bare earth even starting to talk about how fun it is, even when it's serious. Skelethon is loving depressing. It doesn't get better, it's just one continual drain. I can see why they released the tracks they did, the album is dark as gently caress and those are the only tracks on it with the kind of energy the releases you're talking about have. God drat. All three albums in this particular discussion are personal albums, but El-P and Killer Mike are clearly not in nearly as dark a place as Aes. Reminder this is the second album he's ended with a wracked, exhaustive explanation of how he sucks as a person and doesn't know why people would or should care. gently caress, man, ... A hug? A smoke? Anything I can getcha? Chin up, it's gotta get better from here, right? It's still really, really good, though, I think... More coherent than Labor Days even, he's got his craft down, he's just got a lot of emptiness to share in a way that sounds like I'm listening to somebody's suicide note rapped, or something.
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Mike Tysons CARFAX posted:Anybody have any chopped and screwed albums they recommend? Other than DJ Screw? Swishahouse Choppin em up Part 9 by Michael Watts
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I know I'm turning into a weird lady that only wants to talk about D-Sisive (which isn't entirely true), but I'm really liking "Graceland" off his upcoming Asian Elvis mixtape (July 31!) http://thedesolatecollective.bandcamp.com/track/graceland
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Ayo channel orange and pluto leading far as the aoty for me so far. Cruel summer, dreams and nightmares, life is good, good kid in a maad city, based on a tru story, excuse my french and 3loko/"diplo album" better step the gently caress up
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Muck and Mire posted:Yes but this equation also works for Cam'ron and Gucci Mane so what's your point
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. Yeah man.
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. hahaha gently caress you, idiot.
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Confounding Factor posted:Well think of it this way, Ocean produced at least two of the tracks on Channel Orange--and has ghost written and produced tracks for pop stars for years. So, let's get this right here: both got their start behind the scenes, both emerged as #1 powerhouses basically on the strength of one single (Through The Wire and Novacane) and word of mouth. And crucially, yes, both are black men who captured the zeitgeist to impose their own sense of style onto white and black fans. Think Ye bar sunglasses, backpacks and Christian Doir shoes--then compare those to Ocean's tumblr, taste in vintage cars and r&b hipsterism. These guys are the same story, and both are kings. I gotta say in this thread's long history of embarrassing posts, this is right up there. Frank Ocean isn't even in the same galaxy in terms of popularity as Kanye. Hell, Tyler's more popular by far than Frank Ocean and he's still steps below Kanye. And when Kanye was some super-tastemaker he'd already dropped two platinum albums. Like, this has to be a fake post, nobody can really think this way in the real world. Like, I can't even co-sign your gucci sucks post because you're so embarrassing.
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. u mad e: BRRRRRRRRRr e2: To the dude above, are you really excited for 2 Chainz debut album? Am I missing something about that dude because he's the least charismatic dude to hit the mainstream in a long time imo.
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You think 2 chainz lacks charisma? Well drat.
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2chainz IS the go-to mixtape feature guy of the moment, but he isnt anywhere near as prolific or interesting as the ones that have come before him. he has some great songs but his ad libs are incredibly annoying and he uses the same flow way too much. i think these are pretty fair critisisms and to the other guy seriously gently caress you those are the two most entertaining rappers ever to me
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Yeah honestly I haven't delved as deep into 2 Chainz/Tity Boi/PC as much as I should have so his ad libs don't bother me. Also Gucci Mane is that dude so please just don't
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. I will murder you IRL, idiot fucker
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Can anybody tell me what song to listen to to understand why people like 2 chainz?
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SHINEBLOCKA posted:Can anybody tell me what song to listen to to understand why people like 2 chainz? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdIaMIyYFbc
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. Number one stupid thing I encounter people thinking about rap is this. Nobody rips on ACDC for not being intelligent or talented because they weren't being emotionally "deep" or hyper literate.
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point.
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Prefuse posted:I hope you get loving murdered. Rude
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Confounding Factor posted:Cam'ron and Gucci Mane aren't talented. That's my point. lol why are you in this thread holy poo poo
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Confounding Factor posted:Well think of it this way, Ocean produced at least two of the tracks on Channel Orange--and has ghost written and produced tracks for pop stars for years. So, let's get this right here: both got their start behind the scenes, both emerged as #1 powerhouses basically on the strength of one single (Through The Wire and Novacane) and word of mouth. And crucially, yes, both are black men who captured the zeitgeist to impose their own sense of style onto white and black fans. Think Ye bar sunglasses, backpacks and Christian Doir shoes--then compare those to Ocean's tumblr, taste in vintage cars and r&b hipsterism. These guys are the same story, and both are kings. Capture the zeitgeist of the million punches i'm about to land on your solar plexus, nerd
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