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Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


You Are A Elf posted:

Man, I cannot stop laughing at this image. Two scenarios play out in my head:

1) Dude's foolishly got his head stuck in the door and is crying hysterically for some reason, even though he can just open the door and slip out
2) Dude has just poked his head in on something he thought would be innocent, but turns out to be something hellishly horrific and is all like "HOLY gently caress :gonk:" like the infamous Italian Spider-Man gif

The guy looks like Stephen King, which only makes it better.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Benne posted:

Not sure what you mean by "fuckup", but this is a "giant robots vs. giant monsters" movie and those are full-size adult humans. That should give you an idea as to the scale of this movie.

I didn't know it was a giant robot film. I guess I'll look up a film before stupidposting next time.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post

You Are A Elf posted:

2) Dude has just poked his head in on something he thought would be innocent, but turns out to be something hellishly horrific and is all like "HOLY gently caress :gonk:" like the infamous Italian Spider-Man gif



It's uncanny!

Grape Juice Vampire
Aug 1, 2009

Robert Denby posted:

FYI, that's a fan poster.

Here's Comic-Con posters for "The Hobbit" and "Pacific Rim":


Does anybody else feel like this would work ten times better if they had shown Gandalf's back instead of his face?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

marktheando posted:

I hadn't paid any attention to Pacific Rim so I'm pretty pleasantly surprised to find out that it's a Guillermo Del Toro movie about giant robots and isn't about WWII like I assumed. Now I want to see it. Well done movie poster, you have done your job.

Oh poo poo he's directing it? Well then now I'm interested.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
It involves much of the Earth being destroyed after super-gigantic Lovecraft-esque monsters rise out of the sea; humanity fights back with equally large robot mechs.

Directed by Del Toro.

I will definitely see this.

Jefferoo
Jun 24, 2008

by Lowtax
Also Idris loving Elba.

testtubebaby
Apr 7, 2008

Where we're going,
we won't need eyes to see.


Jefferoo posted:

Also Idris loving Elba.



Vanquish: The Movie

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

Gonz posted:

It involves much of the Earth being destroyed after super-gigantic Lovecraft-esque monsters rise out of the sea; humanity fights back with equally large robot mechs.

Directed by Del Toro.

I will definitely see this.

Also also Charlie Day.

matrocious
Feb 7, 2011

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

Does anybody else feel like this would work ten times better if they had shown Gandalf's back instead of his face?

Yes. It feels a bit off unless it's part of a series. Maybe if it was his back as he was walking towards Bag End.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

matrocious posted:

Yes. It feels a bit off unless it's part of a series. Maybe if it was his back as he was walking towards Bag End.

Yes. That would be perfect.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

Silentman0 posted:

Also also Charlie Day.

I've gone from not even knowing about this film to it being my most highly anticipated movie ever.

Even though I know it wont just be Charlie bashing elder god rats with his rat stick in Paddy's basement.

Hewlett
Mar 4, 2005

"DANCE! DANCE! DANCE!"

Also, drink
and watch movies.
That's fun too.

Lasher posted:

I've gone from not even knowing about this film to it being my most highly anticipated movie ever.

Even though I know it wont just be Charlie bashing elder god rats with his rat stick in Paddy's basement.

Is your extradimensional giant monster making ToooOOooo MUCH NOISE ALL THE TIME?!?!

*KAIJU MITTONS*

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Lasher posted:

I've gone from not even knowing about this film to it being my most highly anticipated movie ever.

same here. I had no idea this existed, but I'm such a huge fanboy of everything and everyone related to this movie.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Grape Juice Vampire posted:

Does anybody else feel like this would work ten times better if they had shown Gandalf's back instead of his face?

Are you by any chance familiar with David Wenzel's illustrated adaptation?

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

Does anybody else feel like this would work ten times better if they had shown Gandalf's back instead of his face?

Good luck getting the execs to write-off on that. You limit a significant segment of the population by doing that. The casual fan who isn't going to recognize the Shire by vegetation alone. Since those are the people you're trying to convince to see this (because let's face it, anyone who can recognize the Shire or that already knows The Hobbit by name is already at this movie) you have to put your most recognizable face to it.

At least, that's how the WB execs think.


edit: Also Pacific Rim is the film WB and Del Toro decided to do together when he was forced out/quit/came to a mutual understanding about The Hobbit.

kiimo fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jul 8, 2012

Handsome Dead
May 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Didn't it also have something to do with him not being able to get the funding for At The Mountains of Madness?

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Yeah, he got booted off The Hobbit, then developed ATMOM at Universal. Universal loved his proof of concept, but needed him to commit to a PG-13 cut in order to provide his requested budget. The project fell apart on that point. After having spent so many years on two projects that evaporated he just wanted to shoot something, and jumped Pacific Rim with WB. I think they'd been developing it together, sort of on the back burner while Guillermo pursued The Hobbit/ATMOM, for several years.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

Bugblatter posted:

Yeah, he got booted off The Hobbit, then developed ATMOM at Universal. Universal loved his proof of concept, but needed him to commit to a PG-13 cut in order to provide his requested budget. The project fell apart on that point. After having spent so many years on two projects that evaporated he just wanted to shoot something, and jumped Pacific Rim with WB. I think they'd been developing it together, sort of on the back burner while Guillermo pursued The Hobbit/ATMOM, for several years.

I really wanted to see Del Toro's take on The Hobbit and was really bummed when the story broke that he was leaving. The stories I've been hearing about the production under Jackson have not been favourable at all. Multiple splinter units with no communication or direction, a number of experienced industry vets have said it's one of the worst on-set experiences they've ever had because of the chaos, and the 48fps footage has all the depth of a Mexican soap opera after a PAL to NTSC standards conversion.

Content: gently caress YEAH (huge)

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Dillbag posted:

I really wanted to see Del Toro's take on The Hobbit and was really bummed when the story broke that he was leaving. The stories I've been hearing about the production under Jackson have not been favourable at all. Multiple splinter units with no communication or direction, a number of experienced industry vets have said it's one of the worst on-set experiences they've ever had because of the chaos, and the 48fps footage has all the depth of a Mexican soap opera after a PAL to NTSC standards conversion.

Content: gently caress YEAH (huge)



Dude what the hell are you talking about? You should post this on the Hobbit thread and see how quickly it gets shot down.

Starting with the 48 FPS which you have the option of seeing or not seeing. And depth isn't the issue, it is how your eye jumps when you scan in real life as opposed to how the 48 FPS doesn't that gives it the soap opera effect. The Hobbit is going to be awesome.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

kiimo posted:

Dude what the hell are you talking about? You should post this on the Hobbit thread and see how quickly it gets shot down.

Starting with the 48 FPS which you have the option of seeing or not seeing. And depth isn't the issue, it is how your eye jumps when you scan in real life as opposed to how the 48 FPS doesn't that gives it the soap opera effect. The Hobbit is going to be awesome.

I hope so, I love the source material and I think Jackson's great (even if I would rather see Del Toro's take on it). And I know that on-set strife doesn't necessarily always show up in the finished product, but I've heard a couple first-hand accounts of the chaos. I should probably stay out of the Hobbit thread haha.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

kiimo posted:

Dude what the hell are you talking about? You should post this on the Hobbit thread and see how quickly it gets shot down.

Starting with the 48 FPS which you have the option of seeing or not seeing. And depth isn't the issue, it is how your eye jumps when you scan in real life as opposed to how the 48 FPS doesn't that gives it the soap opera effect. The Hobbit is going to be awesome.

I don't know the entire story behind this, but haven't a lot of people who've seen parts of it say it looks like poo poo?

Bloody Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Jul 9, 2012

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I don't the entire story behind this, but haven't a lot of people who've seen parts of it say it looks like poo poo?

The 48fps looks...different, but people who are worried need not be. The film will be released in 24fps and will look just fine.

Dude who mentioned "chaos": LOTR had splinter units and that turned out just fine. I don't see how it's a problem. Sounds like you know some whiny people who just happen to work on The Hobbit.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I don't know the entire story behind this, but haven't a lot of people who've seen parts of it say it looks like poo poo?


Yes. I don't like it in fact. I think it reminds me of early 80s era BBC production of King Lear or something. It also makes the sets look a lot like...sets. Some people say you have to get used to it, I don't know if I buy that.

But the 48 frames per second that PJ is obsessed with (that is reminiscent of Lucas' obsession with digital projection theaters back in the day) is not going to affect the movie because you don't have to see it that way. You can just see it normally. I'm seeing it three different ways if you count 3D. If you're a true nerd, see it 6 times in 3-D, 2-D and IMAX 3-D, each in both 24-fps and 48-fps.

But as far as people complaining about a chaotic set, I'd probably complain too if I had to haul a bunch of production poo poo up a mountain every day. I don't think that is going to ruin the film or anything.

Del Toro in my opinion was taking it in a direction that PJ couldn't handle and they amicably parted ways. Jackson I don't think could handle Del Toro's take and immediately said so after seeing this...






That's Del Toro's Smaug. Cool, but not really Lord of the Rings like we've come to know it in my opinion or, apparently, Peter Jackson's.

Robert Denby
Sep 9, 2007
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, huh? Nah, get fucked mate.
The 48fps thing just seems like it should have been used on a much smaller film as an experiment, not just used right out of the gate on a $300+ million franchise. I'm very surprised Warner hasn't done something like what "Avatar" and "TRON Legacy" did; showing 15 minutes of footage for free in theaters to gauge audience interest and see what the response to the 48fps element is. Hell, Christopher Nolan decided to change the sound mix of "The Dark Knight Rises" as far as Bane is concerned because people commented about how difficult he was to understand in the prologue.

Dillbag posted:

Content: gently caress YEAH (huge)


Produced by Jack Abramoff. Yes, the Jack Abramoff. And it was made during apartheid in South Africa, so he used blacks as basically free labor. What a dick.

EDIT: Idris Elba. He's been in a couple of major movies like "Thor" and "Prometheus", but he's most known for having a major role on "The Wire", and he's loving amazing in it.
v v v

Robert Denby fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jul 9, 2012

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



Jefferoo posted:

Also Idris loving Elba.



Don't get me wrong, he looks like someone I really wouldn't piss off, but who is he? Is he a well-known actor?

Never the less, I'll be watching this movie like hell. The premiss sounds badass!

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Iacen posted:

Don't get me wrong, he looks like someone I really wouldn't piss off, but who is he? Is he a well-known actor?

Never the less, I'll be watching this movie like hell. The premiss sounds badass!

His big work was The Wire and Prometheus.

I can't blame you for not watching the latter.

(oh, and the guard of the dimension portal thing in Thor)

The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jul 9, 2012

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
He's also got a BBC detective show called Luther which is at 2 seasons with a movie on the way.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mr. Squishy posted:

He's also got a BBC detective show called Luther which is at 2 seasons with a movie on the way.

Also Ultraviolet which everyone should watch.

Irish Taxi Driver
Sep 12, 2004

We're just gonna open our tool palette and... get some entities... how about some nice happy trees? We'll put them near this barn. Give that cow some shade... There.

Iacen posted:

Don't get me wrong, he looks like someone I really wouldn't piss off, but who is he? Is he a well-known actor?

Never the less, I'll be watching this movie like hell. The premiss sounds badass!

Hes an up and coming British actor. He had a really great role in The Wire as Stringer Bell, the ship captain in Prometheus, and Heimdall in Thor.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

And a brief stint on The Office as perhaps the only person in the whole company who has never put up with either Michael or Jim.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Alhazred posted:

Also Ultraviolet which everyone should watch.

That's Ultraviolet the UK TV series, not Ultraviolet the bad movie.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

kiimo posted:

But as far as people complaining about a chaotic set, I'd probably complain too if I had to haul a bunch of production poo poo up a mountain every day. I don't think that is going to ruin the film or anything.

No on-set labour is going to make an issue about humping gear or working in a lovely location. Well everyone complains, but it's an expected part of the job. I'm talking about half a dozen shooting units with different directors and no clear direction, actors and crew being shuffled around between units with little organization or planning, and 40 minute long rolling resets* driving the actors crazy (this is rumoured to be why Rob Kazinsky dropped out).

But yes, the proof will be in the pudding and I'll hold off on burning the film at the stake until I actually see it in the theatres. It may very well turn out to be a masterpiece.

*Back in the days of shooting on film a normal camera roll was around 400 feet, so you could only shoot for 4-ish minutes before having to change mags. This gave the actors and crew time to reset, go over their lines, reapplyt etc. WIth the advent of digital recording to large format hard drives, you can shoot 4k 3D for almost an hour without turning the camera off. It can be very tempting for directors to be lazy and just leave the cameras running and go again and again and again, but it really fucks with your cast. Many actors lose their places, their performances get muddled, and they get burned out very quickly.


Content: The international DVD cover for Dolph Lungren's terrible I Come In Peace

OozieNelson
Dec 20, 2008

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"

Why would you want to advertise that the film is produced by someone who worked on Righteous Kill and 16 Blocks?

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

"a producer"? Pff... you're going to need a definite article or plural form if you want to impress me!

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Dillbag posted:

*Back in the days of shooting on film a normal camera roll was around 400 feet, so you could only shoot for 4-ish minutes before having to change mags. This gave the actors and crew time to reset, go over their lines, reapplyt etc. WIth the advent of digital recording to large format hard drives, you can shoot 4k 3D for almost an hour without turning the camera off. It can be very tempting for directors to be lazy and just leave the cameras running and go again and again and again, but it really fucks with your cast. Many actors lose their places, their performances get muddled, and they get burned out very quickly.

What?

35mm is available in 1000' rolls, which run ~11 minutes. You can get plenty of takes out of 11 min. The next mag is always ready to go before the previous one has run out and changing mags shouldn't take more than a minute with a gate check if your ACs are at all competent. There are similar very brief delays associated with shooting digital (Running an Epic for hours without stopping? Maybe in theory...).

I mean, 400' rolls of 35mm are also available, but 1000' is the standard, and if you're on a student film and the camera crew doesn't know what the gently caress they're doing then maybe changing mags would take more than a minute? But otherwise what are you even talking about?

Rolling resets can be rough especially with excessive amounts of takes, but neither of those things are new for PJ and they didn't come from the digital switch.

Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 9, 2012

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

Bugblatter posted:

What?

35mm is available in 1000' rolls, which run ~11 minutes. You can get plenty of takes out of 11 min. The next mag is always ready to go before the previous one has run out and changing mags shouldn't take more than a minute with a gate check if your ACs are at all competent. There are similar very brief delays associated with shooting digital (Running an Epic for hours without stopping? Maybe in theory...) and you'll have longer delays from re-setting the actual, you know, set.

400' rolls of 35mm are also available, but 1000' is the standard. If you're on a student film and the camera crew doesn't know what the gently caress they're doing then maybe changing mags would take more than a minute? But otherwise what are you even talking about?

You're right, I'm mixing up the rolls. Had it in my mind that the 1000 foot reels were for movie projectors, but that's 2000 feet. Regardless, the costs involved in shooting & processing film made lengthy rolling resets fairly rare. Producers would poo poo down your neck for burning film.

I'm not saying everyone goes for coffee when the mags are being changed, I'm talking about the brief breather the cast & crew needs between takes to reset, reapply makeup, adjust lighting, get back into a different emotional state, etc.

As for running an Epic for almost an hour without stopping, I've seen it happen more than once. I've also seen the problems & rage that 8-10 hours of multicam dailies a day causes editorial on both low budget MOWs & high budget features.

Anyhoo, sorry for the derail.

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Dillbag posted:

You're right, I'm mixing up the rolls. Had it in my mind that the 1000 foot reels were for movie projectors, but that's 2000 feet. Regardless, the costs involved in shooting & processing film made lengthy rolling resets fairly rare. Producers would poo poo down your neck for burning film.

I'm not saying everyone goes for coffee when the mags are being changed, I'm talking about the brief breather the cast & crew needs between takes to reset, reapply makeup, adjust lighting, get back into a different emotional state, etc.

As for running an Epic for almost an hour without stopping, I've seen it happen more than once. I've also seen the problems & rage that 8-10 hours of multicam dailies a day causes editorial on both low budget MOWs & high budget features.

For some reason I initially read "almost an hour" as "several hours." Yeah, the former does happen and it sucks. And I'd totally hate to be in editorial these days, for sure.

I do think your overestimating the effect changing mags had on the pace of production, but whatever. The point you were making is that an hour of rolling resets sucks, and that's certainly true.

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Vaerai Archon
Jan 4, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post

kiimo posted:




That's Del Toro's Smaug. Cool, but not really Lord of the Rings like we've come to know it in my opinion or, apparently, Peter Jackson's.

That really looks like something out of Monster Hunter. It even has the same style of horns with their shape and placement of them.

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