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Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

danbanana posted:

It's pretty much gone from my understanding. I've been keeping an eye out but the couple places that listed it on beermenus were sold out immediately. Really limited, though a friend scored a bottle (from a shop in Rockford of all places, who had a loving drawing to see who would get bottles).

On one hand, I'd love to have access to all the beers distributed in Chicago, on the other hand, I enjoy being able to walk into a store and get multiple bottles of things like Love Child #2 and Apocalypse Cow.

Sirotan posted:

Hey goons, just as a reminder I'm having a beer tasting on July 14 at my place in Ann Arbor. I'm planning a 7pm start at this point unless I get more people coming from out of town, in which case I'd start earlier. Send me a PM ASAP if you're interested, I'm trying to get an idea of how many will be coming.

Everybody in the midwest should come, I'll bring good beer.

Corb3t fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jul 10, 2012

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Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Wamsutta posted:

I've done this exact thing except the girl got the Allagash and really liked it

This bartender at the local beer nerd spot keeps Stella and Blue Moon on draft for profiling purposes which I think is very funny and, also, makes him a dick

Our local places usually keep Guinness on draft as the "mild beer." The Toronado SD is the beer nerd place that has the most taps and the most obscure beer selection around but they don't keep anything consistently on tap that's friendly for beer-phobes and their tap list also doesn't describe anything so its pretty vague what anything is if you're a newbie to beer.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Beer Geek: Loves craft beer. Actively seeks out new craft beers. Recommends craft beers to others.
Beer Nerd: Same as Beer Geek, but knows or enjoys learning about the different beers, brewing methods, chemistry of fermentation, hop varieties, etc.
Beer Snob: Either one of the above with the addition of being an rear end in a top hat and criticizing others for their taste in beer. And/or you bash brewers and breweries on the BA Forums for choices they make, since you obviously know better.

If you get excited at local tap takeover, you're a Beer Geek. If you can recite the different beers at the takeover, know their styles, and know some of the history behind the brewery, you're the Beer Nerd. If someone at the takeover asks "Is there anything here like Blue Moon?" and you scoff at their obvious pedestrian tastes and mull over clever things to say to them about their poor exposure to "real" beer and later relate the story of the "idiot" you overheard at the bar, you're a douchebag. And a Beer Snob.

Don't be a Beer Snob.

PS: I'm drinking a can of Blue Moon right now because it goes well with my pizza :colbert:

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jul 10, 2012

Dirty Phil
Jul 3, 2012
Ugh I hate people that get too elitist about their beers. Everyone tastes things differently and prefer different flavors, so arguing about it can be like swinging dicks on the internet. That being said, some things like Corona just plain suck.

Also, if you are going to be a snob, be this kind of snob.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Beer Geek: Loves craft beer. Actively seeks out new craft beers. Recommends craft beers to others.
Beer Nerd: Same as Beer Geek, but knows or enjoys learning about the different beers, brewing methods, chemistry of fermentation, hop varieties, etc.
Beer Snob: Either one of the above with the addition of being an rear end in a top hat and criticizing others for their taste in beer. And/or you bash brewers and breweries on the BA Forums for choices they make, since you obviously know better.

If you get excited at local tap takeover, you're a Beer Geek. If you can recite the different beers at the takeover, know their styles, and know some of the history behind the brewery, you're the Beer Nerd. If someone at the takeover asks "Is there anything here like Blue Moon?" and you scoff at their obvious pedestrian tastes and mull over clever things to say to them about their poor exposure to "real" beer and later relate the story of the "idiot" you overheard at the bar, you're a douchebag. And a Beer Snob.

Don't be a Beer Snob.

PS: I'm drinking a can of Blue Moon right now because it goes well with my pizza :colbert:
I'm not sure if you're being talking to me or not, but I suggested Allagash White as an alternative to Blue Moon and she got uppity and left the bar. The only part of the story that was supposed to be amusing was that she left rather than drink a beer that is the exact same style as the one she requested but better.

This is like the least elitist discussion on beer you're going to find. It's not BeerAdvocate.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
No, it wasn't directed at you, at all. It was just me putting down my thoughts, since I get to deal with all three every day. I get to see what a huge turnoff it is for people who are new to beer to run into the Beer Snob in the aisle or at the bar. There are a lot of people out there who are starting to realize they have a choice, beyond commercials with talking animals and packaging marketing. If I could throw all the douchebags out of the store, I would. I'd loving blacklist them until they learn that beer is subjective and that it's social and that their attitude runs counter to what beer culture has always been.

One thing that might make me slightly Beer Snob... The customers who come in to buy cases of Corona or Miller Light or whatever when we have tastings and I offer them free beer and they shoot back with some snarky bullshit about how they know the beer in my hand is crap compared to their holy Silver Bullet. Or they tell me they don't like "craft beer", that it's all awful and they've tried it all or that all craft beer is overpriced garbage. I don't like them either. I'm offering you free loving beer. Free. And you won't even try some? What the gently caress? I don't give a gently caress what you're choosing to drink, but you're basically coming into my store, which specializes in having an absurd selection, buying the same mediocre stuff you always buy, since it's the cheapest, and then you're brushing off a free beer because your chosen light lager is automatically the best? I believe I speak for all the craft brewers who kill themselves to create great beer, when I say "gently caress you".

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 10, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Corbet posted:

On one hand, I'd love to have access to all the beers distributed in Chicago, on the other hand, I enjoy being able to walk into a store and get multiple bottles of things like Love Child #2 and Apocalypse Cow.

Where are you again?

Apocalypse Cow is everywhere here, though I haven't picked it up yet.

Wizbro
Jul 6, 2012
I'm still new to drinking beer to appreciate taste rather than getting drunk so I've just been buying single bottles of random stuff just to build a sort of resume of beers I like vs. don't like.

This weekend I tried Sleeman's Honey Brown larger and loved it. I'm going to grab some more this week as a fridge stuffer. I also tried Newcastle Brown Ale to try and compare my preferences of larger vs ale and so far I can't lean one way or the other. I'll just keep drinking different brews and see where that takes me.

The last thing I tried was a Jamaican import called Dragon Stout. The only positive thing it did for me was re-affirm my dislike for stout beers (although I really haven't tried very many).

Based on this information can you fellas give me some suggestions on other beers I can try out just to expand my pallet? Preferably easily accessible to a central Canadian. I already have a small list from an earlier post that I want to try out and will report back when I do.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


I'm at Pizza Port Carlsbad and am phoneposting to confirm my Beer Nerd status because I have to talk about what I'm having right now: Port Brewing Poor Vato. DIPA on nitro. It's like orange sherbet on a pinewood spoon being forcefully inserted into my nasal cavities. Holy poo poo is this an awesome beer.

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker
I bought Levitation on a whim and I don't know why I never tried it before. It's perfect for the warm but not scorchingly hot weather.

I also got 2 bottles of Brux to try. Anyone have experience with it? My brother is a gigantic brettanomyces fan and I'm guessing it'd be a good beer to get him as a gift.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Glottis posted:

I also got 2 bottles of Brux to try. Anyone have experience with it? My brother is a gigantic brettanomyces fan and I'm guessing it'd be a good beer to get him as a gift.

i've had it twice now and would put it in the "good-but-unremarkable" category; the brett is nice, but hasn't really gone to town yet. the label pretty strongly hints that you should sit on it, and that was confirmed by the distributor rep i talked to, so i'm gonna wait a while before i open mine.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Wizbro posted:

This weekend I tried Sleeman's Honey Brown larger and loved it. I'm going to grab some more this week as a fridge stuffer. I also tried Newcastle Brown Ale to try and compare my preferences of larger vs ale and so far I can't lean one way or the other. I'll just keep drinking different brews and see where that takes me.

If you can find it, Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale is a good one along those lines.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

danbanana posted:

Where are you again?

Apocalypse Cow is everywhere here, though I haven't picked it up yet.

Toledo Ohio and Ann Arbor Michigan, technically.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)
What are the odds we'll ever see 5L keg cans (like Heineken's) for better beers? I really dig the concept of getting drafts at home as well as not having so much waste from bottles that aren't recycled locally.

SketchyNick
Oct 15, 2005
Oberon is the only craft beer I've seen in those 5L mini kegs.

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

What are the odds we'll ever see 5L keg cans (like Heineken's) for better beers? I really dig the concept of getting drafts at home as well as not having so much waste from bottles that aren't recycled locally.

I'm guessing they patented the whole pressurized system (which is what makes them awesome). The non-pressurized mini kegs are available for some US breweries (see above) and I've seen Kostritzer / Paulaner in them too.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

I had a Founders Devil Dancer tonight. That stuff is something else. It's pretty sweet to start and has a finish that I can't describe very well. It also keeps biting your tongue with bitterness. It's definitely not an easy drinker but it's worth it.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Had a going away thing at the Map Room in Chicago this weekend, hadn't been in a while. While I know that the move to Denver will be a boon in terms of beer, I can't help but be a little sad about leaving Chicago's great breweries and bars.

Had Allagash Yakuza, Ommegang Hennepin, St. Bernardus Abt 12 and Unibroue Maudite. While they're all fairly different styles, I remain a huge fan of the Abt 12. The Yakuza was also quite nice, although not the best Tripel I've ever had. I appreciate the dry hopping and it came across with appropriate fruitiness, but it just didn't have that, I dunno, spark that would have gotten me really hot and bothered. I would have it again for sure, but maybe not over some other stuff.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

air- posted:

Just picked up a fresh sixer of Weihenstephaner Hef. Couldn't resist after seeing it was $7. Time for a blind side by side with Apollo later this week :cheers:

They are two different styles.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

bartolimu posted:

I'm at Pizza Port Carlsbad and am phoneposting to confirm my Beer Nerd status because I have to talk about what I'm having right now: Port Brewing Poor Vato. DIPA on nitro. It's like orange sherbet on a pinewood spoon being forcefully inserted into my nasal cavities. Holy poo poo is this an awesome beer.

I really want some Coffee Monster having read where you are.

Edit: Also, I had some Poor Man's IPA on cask the other night :smug: (In fairness, I'm not all that crazy for cask beer)

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jul 10, 2012

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

Midorka posted:

They are two different styles.

And? They're not radically different styles. Impartial tastings are a great way to separate name brand/category bias from taste alone. It's pretty drat amazing how much your opinion of a beverage is informed by its reputation, even if you feel like you're immune to the effects. You can learn a lot about your tastes by removing context and puzzling over it afterwards.

After a weekend-long cookout/boozing venture, I'm pretty much ready for more breweries to switch to cans. Between a pair of broken bottles becoming a hazard to the mostly barefoot populace, taking up more room in trashcans, and taking all the fun out of shore-to-water beer dispersal, it's becoming more apparent to me that cans are really the way to go. Aside from the cost of switching over to a new method of packaging, are there any other concerns with regards to cans vs. bottles?

Kraven Moorhed fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jul 10, 2012

nuncle jimbo
Apr 3, 2009

:pcgaming:
Doing vegas this weekend, any beers I should seek out?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
The Pub at the Monte Carlo and Aces & Ales both have pretty solid beer offerings.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

SketchyNick posted:

Oberon is the only craft beer I've seen in those 5L mini kegs.

Bell's actually does a few in those. Oberon, Amber, and Brown as well as, yes, Hopslam last year. Though I have a feeling that's not an annual thing...

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Wizbro posted:

I'm still new to drinking beer to appreciate taste rather than getting drunk so I've just been buying single bottles of random stuff just to build a sort of resume of beers I like vs. don't like.

This weekend I tried Sleeman's Honey Brown larger and loved it. I'm going to grab some more this week as a fridge stuffer. I also tried Newcastle Brown Ale to try and compare my preferences of larger vs ale and so far I can't lean one way or the other. I'll just keep drinking different brews and see where that takes me.

The last thing I tried was a Jamaican import called Dragon Stout. The only positive thing it did for me was re-affirm my dislike for stout beers (although I really haven't tried very many).

Based on this information can you fellas give me some suggestions on other beers I can try out just to expand my pallet? Preferably easily accessible to a central Canadian. I already have a small list from an earlier post that I want to try out and will report back when I do.

Random single bottles is a great way to get into beer. I'd suggest not giving up on any one style too fast. I also thought I hated stouts and darker beers until I found Mayflower's Winter Oatmeal Stout, which is really sweet and chocolatey. There can be a lot of variation within a style and it's worth pressing on just to find those few gems, IMO.

Variety twelve packs are also a good way to figure out what you like, or at least get a feel for a specific brewery. The downside is that if you find something you don't like, you have 1-3 other bottles of it. The upside, well, if you find something you like, you have 1-3 other bottles of it. I'm not sure what distribution is like in Canada, but Sam Adams is a reliable choice for variety packs. Long Trail usually has their flagship ale and pale ale in their packs, which are both good, accessible brews. I'd recommend Saranac and Leinenkugel too because the former brews a lot of different varieties of beer and tends to stocks their variety pack with 6 different styles, while the latter is brewed in Wisconsin(?) and might be easily available in central Canada since it's made in the north/central US. Don't really know much about Leinie's other than that. I gather it's regionally popular as a cheap, easy to find craft brewery in that area.

Those two are also viewed as being on the low end of the craft beer totem pole. I haven't had much from Leinenkugel but their Sunset Wheat literally tastes like Fruit Loops beer, for better or worse. As for Saranac, gently caress the haters. :colbert:

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Kraven Moorhed posted:

Aside from the cost of switching over to a new method of packaging, are there any other concerns with regards to cans vs. bottles?

Depending on how concerned you are with BPA, beer can liners still contain it and as far as I know there are no current alternatives, nor does there seem to be any rush in the US to develop one. BeerPulse had a link to a good article about the current state of BPA usage in the food industry recently: http://beerpulse.com/2012/07/food-and-consumer-products-industry-weighs-in-on-bpa-safety/ It's the one thing that keeps me from 100% embracing cans.

danbanana posted:

Bell's actually does a few in those. Oberon, Amber, and Brown as well as, yes, Hopslam last year. Though I have a feeling that's not an annual thing...

Hopslam was a one year thing. They also do Winter White and Two Hearted in the 5L minikegs.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
August.

Ten Fidy in Chicago? Yespleasethankyou.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

Quiet Feet posted:


Those two are also viewed as being on the low end of the craft beer totem pole. I haven't had much from Leinenkugel but their Sunset Wheat literally tastes like Fruit Loops beer, for better or worse. As for Saranac, gently caress the haters. :colbert:

Saranac is really really lovely. I would never suggest somebody start there.

Munkaboo fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 10, 2012

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair

Munkaboo posted:

Saranac is really really lovely. I would never suggest somebody start there.

Saranac was a big contributor to me getting into craft beer. It's craft enough to be different and plain enough to not be revolting early in. It's also extremely cheap

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

RiggenBlaque posted:

Saranac was a big contributor to me getting into craft beer. It's craft enough to be different and plain enough to not be revolting early in. It's also extremely cheap

I hated it before I was into craft beer, so I guess it was just me. I did like Leinenkugel though, so I'll give you guys that one.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Munkaboo posted:

Saranac is really really lovely. I would never suggest somebody start there.

their year-round stuff is weak, but they make a few decent seasonals- recently tried the lemon ginger saison and enjoyed it, especially for like six bucks a bomber.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Kraven Moorhed posted:

And? They're not radically different styles. Impartial tastings are a great way to separate name brand/category bias from taste alone. It's pretty drat amazing how much your opinion of a beverage is informed by its reputation, even if you feel like you're immune to the effects. You can learn a lot about your tastes by removing context and puzzling over it afterwards.

My point is that it would be ideal to get Weihenstaphen's Krystallweizen to compare, since it's the same style. I don't know the differences between the styles since I'm not familiar with a krystallweizen outside of Apollo, but it just seems fair.

Mons Public
Jun 22, 2006

Sometimes I look for Rupees.

Midorka posted:

My point is that it would be ideal to get Weihenstaphen's Krystallweizen to compare, since it's the same style. I don't know the differences between the styles since I'm not familiar with a krystallweizen outside of Apollo, but it just seems fair.

Sometimes people do tastings to see differences between the same style, and sometimes people do tastings to see differences between different styles. Neither way is more ideal.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Chicago dudes: Apparently, Jerry's in Wicker Park is tapping Black Note on Saturday at 5.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

Sirotan posted:

Hopslam was a one year thing. They also do Winter White and Two Hearted in the 5L minikegs.

I remember a few years back obliterating a minikeg of Two Hearted in an hour or so. Goddamn what a great beer. I haven't had any in a while. :(

Kosher man
May 8, 2002

Jahoodie posted:

If any local stores stocked Apollo cold, I wouldn't buy another beer for the rest of the summer most likely.

Had some Weyerbacher Blanche, pretty solid Belgian white. Not much citrus/banana/funk, but a good body and easy drinking. I had some people who dislike beer (but like blue Moon) try it and now they want to go to the brewery.


VVVV


The intent is that, like Allagash White, it is a gateway brew to better beers.

Why in the world would you expect a blanche to have banana or funk in it?

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

Chicago dudes: Apparently, Jerry's in Wicker Park is tapping Black Note on Saturday at 5.

I've already made plans to be there. They're also tapping White Oak (which I've never had) and Ruination 10th Anniversary (which I have had in bottle). Should be a good day...

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

I've already made plans to be there. They're also tapping White Oak (which I've never had) and Ruination 10th Anniversary (which I have had in bottle). Should be a good day...

No kidding. The Smallbar by me is also having their 10th anniversary party at noon, and from what I can tell, I'm going to be completely wasted all day. Here's the taplist for that one:

Half Acre Galactic Double Daisy Cutter
Three Floyds Blackheart
Stone Double Dry Hopped Ruination
Green Bush Cabra Perdida
Revolution Double Fist
Jolly Pumpkin ES Bam
Smutty Nose Wheat Wine
Allagash Victor
Allagash Victoria
Grand Teton 5 O'Clock Shadow
Green Flash Imperial IPA
Six Point Occupation Ale
Lagunitas Imperial Stout

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

crazyfish posted:

Chicago dudes: Apparently, Jerry's in Wicker Park is tapping Black Note on Saturday at 5.

NC dudes: Mellow Mushroom in Greensboro will be tapping Black Note this Friday.

VVV start with a Parabola? VVV

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 10, 2012

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danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

No kidding. The Smallbar by me is also having their 10th anniversary party at noon, and from what I can tell, I'm going to be completely wasted all day. Here's the taplist for that one:

Half Acre Galactic Double Daisy Cutter
Three Floyds Blackheart
Stone Double Dry Hopped Ruination
Green Bush Cabra Perdida
Revolution Double Fist
Jolly Pumpkin ES Bam
Smutty Nose Wheat Wine
Allagash Victor
Allagash Victoria
Grand Teton 5 O'Clock Shadow
Green Flash Imperial IPA
Six Point Occupation Ale
Lagunitas Imperial Stout

Nice. A friend and I decided we'll start the day in the early afternoon busting open a Parabola, then PT it to Jerry's, then... I dunno. Probably drink more beer.

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