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Ok off topic of the current hagrid-raising-human/wolf-babies does anyone know of a google calendar that has all the hp dates? There used to be one but it was deleted.
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reflir posted:When I want to explain something in Harry Potter, I often appeal to a plagiarized World of Darkness setting, too. This fanfiction cross-over exists. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1151011/1/World_of_Darkness White Wolf weeps.
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Jul 6, 2012 18:36
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What bothers me is that the fan community obviously put so much more thought into these things than Rowling herself. This is troubling from two angles -- first, that Rowling would put in so little effort, and second, that others would invest so much (and I'll be up front and say I'm completely guilty of this too).
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Jul 7, 2012 04:24
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PT6A posted:What bothers me is that the fan community obviously put so much more thought into these things than Rowling herself. This is troubling from two angles -- first, that Rowling would put in so little effort, and second, that others would invest so much (and I'll be up front and say I'm completely guilty of this too). It's no more troubling (for the first point anyway) than Ridley Scott not giving a gently caress about Alien's continuity when he made Prometheus. They're just focused on different points of the story, specifically thematic connection over whether something from five books ago makes perfect sense with what you wrote now.
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Jul 7, 2012 07:09
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PT6A posted:What bothers me is that the fan community obviously put so much more thought into these things than Rowling herself. This is troubling from two angles -- first, that Rowling would put in so little effort, and second, that others would invest so much (and I'll be up front and say I'm completely guilty of this too). Part of the fun of Harry Potter is how silly and ridiculous the magical world is. Crafting it carefully to be more logically consistent would sacrifice a lot of that lightness. Not trying to say it isn't fun to be spergy and point out the flaws, but pointing them out is a hell of a lot easier than suggesting alternatives that don't make the whole series a plodding exposition of magical rules. In fact, I think most of the series' success is due to how perfectly Rowling crafted a creative fantasy with just enough thought to make a sensible mystery out of each book, even if we had to consciously suspend our belief at times.
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Jul 7, 2012 08:03
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Eggnogium posted:Part of the fun of Harry Potter is how silly and ridiculous the magical world is. Crafting it carefully to be more logically consistent would sacrifice a lot of that lightness. Not trying to say it isn't fun to be spergy and point out the flaws, but pointing them out is a hell of a lot easier than suggesting alternatives that don't make the whole series a plodding exposition of magical rules. In fact, I think most of the series' success is due to how perfectly Rowling crafted a creative fantasy with just enough thought to make a sensible mystery out of each book, even if we had to consciously suspend our belief at times. Well, the story is based on the characters mostly anyway. The setting is just there to give them something to interact with.
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Jul 7, 2012 09:06
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PT6A posted:What bothers me is that the fan community obviously put so much more thought into these things than Rowling herself. This is troubling from two angles -- first, that Rowling would put in so little effort, and second, that others would invest so much (and I'll be up front and say I'm completely guilty of this too). It's similar to Star Wars. George Lucas obviously isn't invested in the IP as much as most of the fans. Fan communities always seem to be much more invested into these properties than the authors thanks to the internet being such a scary/good way of uniting people with shared interests.
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Jul 7, 2012 12:43
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Paragon8 posted:It's similar to Star Wars. George Lucas obviously isn't invested in the IP as much as most of the fans. This is a really good point. It's like the difference between "high fantasy" and "sword and sorcery" fantasy. In a high fantasy, like Lord of the Rings, the whole focus is the fantasy world, and the story of the world is told through characters. Where as in a sword and sorcery fantasy, the focus is the adventures of individual characters, like Harry, and their tales are told through a fantasy setting.
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Jul 7, 2012 15:32
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I think it's also because with the first book or two, Rowling never, ever expected them to take off the way they did. I know that later on she had an editor whose whole job was to make sure the book's internal logic was consistent, but when she was starting out such an expense would have been absurd and frankly, unnecessary for her target market. I know that much has been made everywhere over how the books developed in tone, complexity, and, of course, length over the series. The first few read far more like Roald Dahl because she was still finding her voice. Situations like this make me wish that it were acceptable for an author to get a do-over (if she chose to, of course). In the same way that it's common to remake movies with better effects or technology that didn't exist when the movie was first produced, I think it would be neat if an author could rewrite his or her earlier works to fill in the gaps and strengthen it with their experience as a writer. I feel like this would be soundly rejected as a concept because it would look like a shameless cash-in on the author's part, and because fans of the first work would likely reject the rewrites the way that fans of original movies reject the remakes. I just remember when I used to write stories as a hobby, I would feel completely embarrassed by writings from my younger years to the point of destroying all copies of them years or even just months later, reading the amateurism in every line. I wonder if real authors ever feel the same way, or whether they cherish their earlier works for all the effort and care it took to create them.
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Jul 7, 2012 22:17
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As an example, Ender's Game was first written as a short story before Card turned it into a novel, so it's obviously not unheard of for an author to revisit previous works and change or improve upon them.
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Jul 8, 2012 00:27
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PT6A posted:As an example, Ender's Game was first written as a short story before Card turned it into a novel, so it's obviously not unheard of for an author to revisit previous works and change or improve upon them. He then tried to "improve" Hamlet by making it really really offensive.
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Jul 8, 2012 00:29
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Barnes and Noble & Yahoo! chat October,20 2000 Blaise_42 asks: In Chamber of Secrets, Hagrid is supposed to have raised werewolf cubs under his bed. Are these the same kind of werewolves as Professor Lupin? jkrowling_bn: no... Riddle was telling lies about Hagrid, just slandering him So that's answered then.
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Jul 8, 2012 04:16
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PT6A posted:As an example, Ender's Game was first written as a short story before Card turned it into a novel, so it's obviously not unheard of for an author to revisit previous works and change or improve upon them. I think in Card's case it probably was "lets try this idea in a short story to see if it has any play" and then he expanded on it . A better comparison would again be George Lucas - revisiting tremendously successful works and wanting to improve them. Rowling I think has a better awareness of what her fans want though. I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Author's editions coming out but I'm not sure if Rowling really even still cares about Harry Potter enough to produce new content.
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Jul 8, 2012 12:27
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bobkatt013 posted:He then tried to "improve" Hamlet by making it really really offensive. Hey, I'm not going to defend his reprehensible personal views and some of his dumber decisions that seem to be based on them, I'm just saying it's not unheard of to revisit one's own earlier work.
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Jul 8, 2012 16:22
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Blight posted:Yes, like why didn't the ministry use veriteserum on the deatheaters? The book says it was hard to punish the right people, because they didn't know who was under the imperius curse and not. In the same vein, I always wondered why someone didn't transfigure Harry into an owl or something when he was being moved from Privet Drive in Deathly Hallows. Wouldn't that have been much simpler than having decoys?
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Jul 8, 2012 17:31
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MissConduct posted:In the same vein, I always wondered why someone didn't transfigure Harry into an owl or something when he was being moved from Privet Drive in Deathly Hallows. Being an owl didn't help Hedwig. 
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Jul 8, 2012 17:51
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Being an owl didn't help Hedwig.
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Jul 8, 2012 17:54
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Look a sunflower posted:I just remember when I used to write stories as a hobby, I would feel completely embarrassed by writings from my younger years to the point of destroying all copies of them years or even just months later, reading the amateurism in every line. I wonder if real authors ever feel the same way, or whether they cherish their earlier works for all the effort and care it took to create them. It's not Rowling, but Jim Butcher (author of the Dresden Files series) has flat out told fans "if you're recommending the series to friends, tell them to skip the first 3 or 4 books. They're bad and I was a bad author then."
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Jul 8, 2012 19:10
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Surprised no ones posted it yet but my wife is in Slytherin on Pottermore, and apparently they are getting Chamber of Secrets first for winning the house cup.
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Jul 8, 2012 23:13
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GoodApollo posted:Surprised no ones posted it yet but my wife is in Slytherin on Pottermore, and apparently they are getting Chamber of Secrets first for winning the house cup. Yep I can confirm that. See evil does pay
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Jul 8, 2012 23:24
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See now I'm twice as annoyed at being sorted into Gryffindor. drat goody two shoes house!
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Jul 9, 2012 00:02
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Great, not only did I get stuck in Hufflepuff, I will probably get stuck getting Chamber of Secrets last too. I'm amused how Hufflepuff has the most members and finished last as well.
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Jul 9, 2012 03:14
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And Ravenclaw was doing so well during the beta, like the bunch of nerds we are. Also it fits that the Slytherins get access to the Chamber of Secrets. It's like House stereotypes are hitting us in the face today.
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Jul 9, 2012 04:58
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bobkatt013 posted:Yep I can confirm that. See evil does pay I am the evilest because I contributed nothing. 
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Jul 9, 2012 13:07
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Szmitten posted:I am the evilest because I contributed nothing. Same! I didn't really like getting sorted into Slytherin but I guess it payed off? I get to finish my half hour of new content one day ahead of everyone else!
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Jul 9, 2012 13:40
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Look a sunflower posted:Situations like this make me wish that it were acceptable for an author to get a do-over (if she chose to, of course). In the same way that it's common to remake movies with better effects or technology that didn't exist when the movie was first produced, I think it would be neat if an author could rewrite his or her earlier works to fill in the gaps and strengthen it with their experience as a writer. Tolkien did this, sort of. He rewrote small parts of "The Hobbit" after he wrote "Lord of the Rings" to make it fit better.
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Jul 9, 2012 17:14
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Being an owl didn't help Hedwig. Poor Hedwig. I was more upset than I should have been over her dying.
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Jul 10, 2012 05:37
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Bad Wolf posted:Tolkien did this, sort of. He rewrote small parts of "The Hobbit" after he wrote "Lord of the Rings" to make it fit better. The whole "Chapter 5 of The Hobbit as written before was a lie told by Bilbo" was pretty masterfully done, and I didn't notice any tone/style changes compared to the rest of the unchanged book too, which is pretty amazing since it was done, what, 20 years later?
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Jul 10, 2012 07:31
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Is it even possible to get a copy of the Hobbit with the original, unaltered riddle game chapter?
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Jul 10, 2012 08:28
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Anya posted:Great, not only did I get stuck in Hufflepuff, I will probably get stuck getting Chamber of Secrets last too. I'm amused how Hufflepuff has the most members and finished last as well. I will bet dollars to donuts that most people who get Sorted into Hufflepuff are ashamed to be "stuck" in the Loser House and abandon their first accounts so that they can have a do-over. And I say this as a Badger. 
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Jul 10, 2012 08:34
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Pththya-lyi posted:I will bet dollars to donuts that most people who get Sorted into Hufflepuff are ashamed to be "stuck" in the Loser House and abandon their first accounts so that they can have a do-over. And I say this as a Badger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXF4JuA6tcg Never not relevant
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Jul 10, 2012 11:49
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Pththya-lyi posted:I will bet dollars to donuts that most people who get Sorted into Hufflepuff are ashamed to be "stuck" in the Loser House and abandon their first accounts so that they can have a do-over. And I say this as a Badger. Sure is true. A load of my friends kept making new accounts until they were Gryffindors. 
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Jul 10, 2012 15:07
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I found that Pottermore improved my opinion of Hufflepuff a LOT and basically made them seem like Hobbits. The common room apparently looks exactly like a Hobbit hole :3 
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Jul 10, 2012 15:09
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Pththya-lyi posted:I will bet dollars to donuts that most people who get Sorted into Hufflepuff are ashamed to be "stuck" in the Loser House and abandon their first accounts so that they can have a do-over. And I say this as a Badger. You're probably on to something, because that's exactly what I would have done if I got Hufflepuff. Ravenclaw superiority.  I could've lived with either of the other two, but not the puff.
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Jul 11, 2012 00:51
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Anyone have that quote (possibly from this thread) about how Hufflepuff was the best house, and they all spent the school year behind the greenhouse "huffling the puff" or something like that?
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Jul 11, 2012 00:57
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Pththya-lyi posted:I will bet dollars to donuts that most people who get Sorted into Hufflepuff are ashamed to be "stuck" in the Loser House and abandon their first accounts so that they can have a do-over. And I say this as a Badger. Somewhat true! I didn't do a do-over, but I got sorted into Hufflepuff and haven't bothered to go back to the site. Screw you sorting hat I wanted Slytherin
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Jul 11, 2012 01:17
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The first four chapters are a lot better and they seem to be more interactive. But gently caress the gnome game. Here all the important info quote:
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Jul 11, 2012 01:54
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Spent half an hour trying to find that poo poo  Isn't there some some stuff about wizards and tech too?I bet Draco loves being remembered for being saved by Harry potter during the Battle of Hogwarts.
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Jul 11, 2012 02:29
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Spent half an hour trying to find that poo poo yes quote:When you can summon any book, instrument or animal with a wave of the wand and the word 'Accio!'; when you can communicate with friends and acquaintances by means of owl, fire, Patronus, Howler, enchanted objects such as coins, or Apparate to visit them in person; when your newspaper has moving pictures and everyday objects sometimes talk to you, then the internet does not seem a particularly exciting place. This is not to say that you will never find a witch or wizard surfing the net; merely that they will generally be doing so out of slightly condescending curiosity, or else doing research in the field of Muggle Studies.
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If only the antediluvian wizarding population realized the wonders of  Free Porn on the Internet.I wonder how much of this she thought of beforehand, and how much is retroactive "poo poo, I have to find some way to justify why there are wizarding radios and cars, but no TV or internet".
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